You mean like gas prices?
You mean like KU tuition up 150% over five years?
You mean like the price of bread and food lately? (because of idiots supporting ethanol)
Of course no one likes to pay higher prices. But I don’t ask the government buy my bread for me.
I like picking out my own loaf and paying a premimum for the quality of bread I select.
I have never accepted a government handout in my life, either….but that doesn’t mean I may never have to.
“Life is what happens when you’ve made other plans”
Health insurance premiums are rising much faster than food, gas, etc.
You’re paying for the people who don’t have insurance, and make expensive trips to the ER.
You’re paying for the insurance companies marketing, their paper shufflers, and all of the insurance agents — none of those costs improves the quality of your health care.
If they took the middle men out of health care, the insurance and drug companies who spend billons on advertising and promoting themselves, heathcare would be affordable to the average American.
“none of those costs improves the quality of your health care.”
I shrugged to everything else in your last post. So what? I pay for the best - and I am getting the best.
But regarding your last comment: neither does the government tax breaks for ethanol improve the quality of my environment. But to follow on with my loaf of bread: none of those costs changes the quality of flavor of my whole wheat Home Pride bread. Mmmm Mmmm good!
The government…if there were more regulations on the industry, somewhat modeled after Japan and Canada’s laws, it would make the health care system work better for everyone.
Mary, please. The government can’t wipe their as- without fifteen pieces of paper instruction.
It is the government, and their regulations which PUSHED the middlemen into existence!
And go to Japan and enjoy a hospital stay. You know who makes your bed/futon? Your wife or family. You know who brings you your food? Your wife of family.
Talk about a dirty stinky place. Go visit a japanese hospital.
Excuse me…but in my experience, Medicaid, Medicare, and the VA work quite well…and all three are directed, regulated,and supervised by the government.
The common notion that government subsidized health care will be substandard is a myth.
In Japan, drug companies can’t advertise their drugs to the public (in the USA, drug companies spend BILLIONS each year on advertising and pass the cost onto the consumers), or provide perks to doctors for prescribing their drugs.
That’s just one small example of how to bring down the cost of health care. Believe me, just because we have the most expensive health care system in the world, that doesn’t necessarily make it the best. You can’t use the analogy of getting what you pay for when it comes to our health care industry. And everyone of us is vulnerable to losing our benefits if we’re lucky enough to have them in the first place.
Hospitals spend billions on equipment they don’t need and making themselves look like 5 star hotels just so they can compete with each other….Wichita alone has the most hosptial beds per capita of any city in the United States. There is duplication of services all over the place…and those who can’t afford insurance use the emergency rooms to get medical treatment…and guess who pays for all of this? We all do with out of sight medical costs.
Mary Caruso; In order to have what you think you want in health insurance the aims and objects or misson statement must be one of delivering quality, timely care based soley on need and not the ability to pay. The mind set in the US about government intervention, especially something so critical as healthcare, is perhaps more pronounced than here. I can understand the reluctance, for lots of Canadians fought universal coverage very hard and for a very long time when it was first introduced but 90%+ wouldn’t change it now.
“Excuse me…but in my experience, Medicaid, Medicare, and the VA work quite well…and all three are directed, regulated,and supervised by the government.”
Excuse me, but in my experience, Medicare pays slowly,and lowly,and the va is okay, if you can;t go anywhere else.
“The common notion that government subsidized health care will be substandard is a myth”
I don;t believe so, I have seen far to many examples to think otherwise.
In some countries in Europe, there is so much more emphasis on preventative health care. For example, in order for a mother to qualify for family leave when she delivers her baby, she must have had adequate prenatal care. With that one simple rule, more babies are born healthy and thus the cost of providing medical care for them has gone way down.
We could do SO much more for preventative health care in our country..that alone would save a lot of money.
Are you kidding? Medicare and Medicaid as fast or faster than most private insurers because they don’t play the game of denying and nit picking claims.
Where do you get your health care experience, littlejohn?
Do you plan to use your Medicare benefits when the time comes? Or are you going to continue to depend on private insurance? It amazes me how many people who rail against government substidized health care are the ones who have Medicare or utilize the VA’s health care system.
I have a challenge for you littlejohn…why don’t you go to any hospital in this country and tell me if you can identify the difference between the patients with Medicaid, Medicare, or private insurance?
Mary Caruso: You are quite right about preventative healthcare driving down costs, and for what it’s worth there is a 12 month or better maternity leave with pay in most European countries, as it is here. It is now illegal to smoke in your car if there is a child with you and I honestly don’t know if Americans could stomach such governmental intervention to make the system work. Maybe we’re less assertive hereabouts……..
The first thing we could do is take the junk food and soda machines out of the schools and make more time for phys ed.
The obesity crisis with our kids is going to really be a problem. I’ve actually seen young kids with cholesterol levels over 300 because they live on a diet of junk food.
My point is…..there are many ways to bring down the cost of health care without sacrificing the quality. The big problem with our whole system is there is too much greed and not enough concern for the consumer.
There is a big problem with Medicare going on right now, and you can ask anyone who works on the ambulance.
The insurance companies that own medicare have enacted this new rule where the techs have to document that there was no other way to transport a patient except by ambulance. That means we have to actually stop and tell the person that they get to choose between sitting there in a pool of vomit (because hey, they can sit up- they can go by car!)…even if they have nobody else to take them….OR they’ll have to foot the bill themselves.
Something needs to seriously be done about this, and it stemmed from too many docs who called the ambulances for transfers. Now granted, we needed to reduce transfers, but this is hurting patients who really need to go by ambulance.
Sleep tight Mary and rest assured no candidate will dismantle our present healthcare system.
As I’ve said, 251 million Americans have health insurance. That is 84 percent of the US population.
A very, very large majority.
Of the claimed 49 million without, at least 10 million are illegal criminals hiding within our borders. Of the remainder, many simply choose not to pay for insurance. Boats, SUV’s, and motorhomes are more important. Many of these make over $60,000 a year.
Of the remainder: Yes, they need assistance in some fashion or another.
But no responsible senator, congressman, or presidential candidate is going to destory what clearly works for the majority of Americans.
Unhappy with the high COST? Get over it. Do you take your car to the cheapest auto repair facility or do you take it to the best? How much MORE is your life worth?
Sure we all complain about the high cost of things. No one LIKES to spend money (unless you are a liberal and it is someone elses).
So keep on whining Mary. The candidates have the dollars from the healthcare industry and the voice of the majority of Americans.
Obamanation now claims he’s a uniter, and not really a liberal. He says he has been voting on the extreme far left in the U.S. Senate because the only votes that come up are purposely designed to divide people. But when he’s leftist-in-chief, he’ll decide what votes come up, focusing on advancing non-dividing issues
like socialized medicine that includes taxpayer-funded abortions, amnesty for illegal aliens, environmental restrictions to prevent global warming [now that we've had the coldest winter since 2001], and declaring defeat and retreat in Iraq [now that we're about to achieve major victories against Middle East terrorism].
Los Angeles California has the most Hospital Beds per Capita per the World Almanac. They also have the most Hospitals per Capita in the USA.The have the most nursing homes and nursing home beds per Capita also. They have the most nurses to patients ratio also. 1 nurse to every 100 patients. It used to be 1 nurse to every 10 patients. Go figure. Money over healthcare needs. Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist
“National health care is coming. And you best get used to the idea.”
You are correct J R. AmWay is not quite as smart as J.M., so I’d disagree there. AmWay makes more $ than the James does, but so what? Dick Cheney isn’t concerned about the up and down of American opinion, so why should AmWay and James have such concerns?
Good night, sleep tight and pleasant dreams to you
Here’s a wish and prayer that every dream comes true
And though it’s always sweet sorrow to part
I know you’ll always remain in my heart
Good night, sleep tight and pleasant dreams to you
Here’s a wish and a prayer that every dream comes true
And now ’til we meet again
James/Regular/et al — You will find out how serious your problem really is, if you dont stop stealing other peoples’ nics, and trying to equate the poster Chas. with every Nic on the Blog. I happen to buy a lot of advertising with the Eagle. But, I am giving them warning, that if you and your little Blog friends arent brought under control, my advertising money is going elsewhere. They will have words for you. You can bet on that.
I read something very scary yesterday on the 3/24 Open Thread. Something even scarier than “Ann Coulter’s coming to town.”
What I heard was this: Ron Parsley is McCain’s pastor. And if McCain is elected, heaven help us all. Because we’ll need all the prayers we can get.
About 12 months ago, I was standing in front of my bathroom mirror (my fave-rave place in the whole, wide WORLD), applying my makeup as is my daily habit. I had idly turned on the TV as a backdrop to my daily travails, and soon I heard sounds. Horrible sounds. Guttural sounds. Sounds that conjured memories of my dead, drunken daddy, who had mercifully croaked decades ago.
I strode out to my living room, and there I saw Pastor Parsley. Prowling the stage like a rabid panther in heat, the mighty man of gawd was intent on getting his message across.
The problem was, the Songbird wasn’t buying it. All that screamin’ and yellin’ and hair-pullin’ and booty-shakin’ and belly-quakin’ and hell-fie-yah wasn’t gettin’ through to me. And when the all-knowing avatar declared, “I know your pain,” the Songbird really lost it.
“Shut the #$%& up!” I snarled. “You don’t know my pain - you don’t have a clue!” Of course, no televangelist’s tirades would be complete without something else - a plea for dough. He weren’t gettin’ none from me - even if I had it to give.
If McCain gets elected prez, I’ll turn my eyes to the heavens and pray. Because if this dude inspires McCain, I feel for his staff.
People in pain and/or under stress don’t need histrionics. They need sane-ness. They need serenity. They need calm. They need a bridge over their own troubled waters (or water on the brain, as I like to say if it refers to meself sometimes).
Mr. Parsley can regularly be seen on Sunday moan-in’s peddling his wares. Of course, he’s got a lot to say ’bout a lotta things. Jack of all trades (and a particularly loud one at that) - but master of none.
He may indeed “know my pain” - but I’m not buying it. That’s the problem. And if McCain’s buying it, gawd help us - each and every one.
Where’s open thread? I have something to discuss that does not apply to any of these threads!! So I’ll do it here.
Patriot Act used in drug case; lawyer riled
BY TIM POTTER
The Wichita Eagle
“I thought that this Patriot Act was something passed to protect us all from these terrorist acts, and it would be used very judiciously,” O’Hara said Monday. “This doesn’t seem to be one where these secret searches would be used.”
This is where Vaughn and GMC would come in handy. I agree with the defense attorney, I thought that the patriot act was specifically for tracking terrorist using our phone and internet lines in the U.S. I guess I need it explained a little more thoroughly.
Okay, no laughing at me because I just found the open thread. Seriously, I’ll pull a Nathan on you if you do!!
Okay, no laughing at me because I just found the open thread
TDT, they just got lazy and used the clicker on yesterday’s Open. It wasn’t your fault.
(Or, like they tell me at work, “you’re not lazy, you’re efficient”)
Looks like Salina is gearing up for the upcoming water wars over Kanopolis and the Smoky. Cant wait for Salina, Russell, and Hays to duke it out. Whatever will governor “leadership” do?
I’m not inherently conversant with the various provisions of the “USA Patriot Act”, as enacted and as amended upon reenactment. Thus, I’ll be of little to no help in responding to your query. I do know there are certain sections of the same that have little to nothing to do with the “threat from terrorism” or national security as such, but were included therein for reasons that currently escape me.
Mr. O’Hara is a very competent criminal defense attorney. I’m sure he has parsed the statute very carefully in preparation of his motion. I’m also sure that the U.S. Attorney’s office response is based upon a reading of the statute more careful than that which I could do as a volunteer.
With that said, I note that there was a warrant issued; there seems to be little dispute about that. There also seems to be no dispute that the warrant was issued under the provisions of said Act. These observations are based upon the report you linked. Other than that I cannot say.
Vaughn - So the argument of whether the evidence obtained is legal boils down to whether they could search a drug dealers house under the Patriot Act, with a warrant, and submit what they collect as evidence.
Personally, I would think this is a slippery slope. Where do they draw the line with using this Patriot Act. Yes, we all detest drug dealers, but that doesn’t make circumventing the law to prosecute them just.
TDT, you have captured the essence of the argument I believe. The warrant was, according to Mr. O’Hara, and not contravened by the government, a “secret warrant”. To the best of my knowledge, the “Patriot Act” is the only statute that provides for such warrants. There may well be some other statutes with similar provisions, but as I have long since left the world of criminal defense work, I’ve no acquaintance with any of these.
I’ll rephrase your query another way, to wit: Whether the warrant issued by the U.S. District Court for the search of the property in question was proper under the provisions of [insert citation of particular section of the Patriot Act here] such that the evidence obtained thereby is properly admissible in the action. It seems to me that the magistrate issuing the warrant felt that such provision authorized the same, or else the warrant would not have been issued.
GMC, as you are a prosecutor, you may have an insight into this which would be valuable to us. Perhaps you might share, if you have time.
I can’t thank you enough for turning me on to GnuCash. I can’t believe it is free. Got my chart of accounts all set and made it through the amazing help file.
TDT, I also have grave reservations and concerns about the procedure apparently followed in this case. However, I feel compelled to say that if there is clear statutory authority for this action, the problems which arise therefrom are clearly ones that must be addressed by the Court using Constitutional considerations, absent amendment by the Congress.
Sol, no problem. As I believe I posted when we were in our discussions of this particular application, I try to make potential users aware of it when it appears to have benefit to them. I’m happy it is working so well for you.
TDT, I’ve done a cursory look at the Patriot Act provisions, and would suggest that section 213 of the same which amended 18 USC 3103a is where the question lies.
Supreme Court Justices Breyer, Ginsburg and Souter Side with George W Bush on Death Penalty case of convicted mexican murderer.
“President Bush overstepped his authority when he ordered a Texas court to reopen the case of a Mexican on death row for rape and murder, the Supreme Court said Tuesday.”
“Bush was in the unusual position of siding with death row prisoner Jose Ernesto Medellin, a Mexican citizen whom police prevented from consulting with Mexican diplomats, as provided by international treaty”
“Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for the majority, disagreed. Roberts said the international court decision cannot be forced upon the states.”
Clinton says she ‘misspoke’ about sniper fire, calls misstatement a ‘minor blip’
It wasn’t just “possible” that Hillary Rodham Clinton misspoke last week when she said she was greeted with sniper fire on arrival in Bosnia 12 years ago — the Democratic presidential candidate now concedes she did misspeak.
But she calls the mistake a “minor blip.”
To recap:
Last week, Clinton said during a speech that she remembers “landing under sniper fire” in Tuzla, Bosnia, on March 25, 1996. She and her traveling party, including daughter Chelsea, had to run “with our heads down” to get from their plane to vehicles waiting for them, Clinton said.
A little fact-checking, including by The Washington Post, turned up no evidence of any such sniper shooting.
Early yesterday afternoon, Clinton presidential campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson conceded to reporters that “it is possible in the most recent instance in which she discussed this that she misspoke with regard to the exit from the plane.”
Then later in the day, Clinton herself was talking to reporters and editors from the Philadelphia Daily News. Will Bunch, who writes the Attytood blog for the Daily News, asked about the Bosnia brouhaha and Clinton said, in part:
Now let me tell you what I can remember, OK — because what I was told was that we had to land a certain way and move quickly because of the threat of sniper fire. So I misspoke — I didn’t say that in my book or other times but if I said something that made it seem as though there was actual fire — that’s not what I was told. …
I think that, a minor blip, you know, if I said something that, you know, I say a lot of things — millions of words a day — so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement.
Officials are trying to determine whether to file charges against a man who fatally shot his wife while trying to install a satellite television system in their home.
Patsy D. Long, 34, of Deep Water, was pronounced dead early Saturday evening after being shot in the chest with a .22-caliber handgun. Her husband, Ronald Long, fired the shot from the inside of their home after several unsuccessful efforts to punch a hole through the exterior wall using other means.
Jesus……I hate the political arena. All the backstabbing, backbiting, obfuscating, ….hell, I’ve worked with enough women in the workforce to be thoroughly sick of such tactics.
Maybe that’s why I glom onto insipid TV programs like “Dancing With the Stars” and “The Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious.” It ain’t high art - but what the heck. I don’t have to deal with Obama’s race-whore of a pastor or Hillary’s overactive seminal gland of a hubbie and the legacy he’s left.
I certainly will vote come November. It’s my civic duty; provided, of course, that I can drag my a$$ out of my chair to do so. If this f–king arthritis gets any worse, I may not be able to vote.
Then again, the Songbird probably just needs to lose weight - then the hip agony will probably abate. After all, if someone put “Hog Futures” betwixst MY name, I think I’d just DIE………
“Of the claimed 49 million without, at least 10 million are illegal criminals hiding within our borders. Of the remainder, many simply choose not to pay for insurance. Boats, SUV’s, and motorhomes are more important. Many of these make over $60,000 a year.”
What does “many” mean in your lexicon? The above link indicates among uninsured adults who don’t have children 23% are at or above 300% of the Federal Poverty Level - which was used as an operational definition of who could afford private insurance. The link also points out depending their health status people at the 300% FPL may not be able to afford private insurance - poorer health means insurance costs more.
I am going to stop short of claiming you are being outright deceptive, but I think your partisan parsing of words is evident. “It depends on what the definition of ‘is’ is” … anybody?
Blacks Have a Choice to Be, or Not to Be, a ‘Victim’
Politicians constantly make righting the wrongs of discrimination the central core of their message to black voters. Elder says that Democrats need black people to be angry and constantly feel aggrieved to keep 90 percent of them voting for Democrats.
Elder’s book helps me understand why Obama would join Wright’s church with its emphasis on black liberation theology to help protect him from blacks who could feel that he would challenge the victimization culture and the view that government is necessary to rescue blacks.
Obama at times is given credit for saying “don’t expect government to solve all their problems,” though it is hard to actually find an issue where that old approach doesn’t apply.
Academia is overwhelmingly filled with liberals and many even to the left of that, but most liberal academics enjoy arguing with those whom they disagree with. Debate and discussion over lunch and in the halls is what makes academia a fun place to be.
But Obama was not like that.
Possibly it was his anger over our differences over the gun issue or a broader anger with those with whom he disagreed, but attempts to engage in discussions ended with a stern looks and a turned back. That was true whether I met him at school or someplace else. There was anger there.
Clinton: I Made a Rare Error When I ‘Misspoke’ About Bosnia Sniper Threat
Speaking to KDKA radio in Pittsburgh, the Democratic presidential candidate said it’s been a long campaign and this is the first time she has said the wrong thing.
“I have written about this and described in many different settings and I did misspeak the other day,” Clinton said during a live 10-minute interview. “This has been a very long campaign. … Last week for the first time in 12 years or so, I misspoke.”
McCain leads Barack Obama 50% to 41% and Hillary Clinton 48% to 43% (see recent daily results).
McCain is viewed favorably by 55% of voters nationwide and unfavorably by 42%. Obama’s reviews are 46% favorable and 52% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 45% favorable, 52% unfavorable
“Clinton: I Made a Rare Error When I ‘Misspoke’ About Bosnia Sniper Threat
Speaking to KDKA radio in Pittsburgh, the Democratic presidential candidate said it’s been a long campaign and this is the first time she has said the wrong thing.”
How do you ‘misspoke’ about crouching and being protected while being under sniper fire.
Hell, that’s just plain lying.
Big difference between McClame’s burp the other day regarding Iran and Sunni’s/shites. When someone says something unintentionally, and corrects in immediately in the same conversation -THAT my friends is a ‘misspoke’.
Telling war stories, and much later getting caught, and then changing the story - is a liar.
Yeah Capn, when I read Max’s post I just assumed that it was probably someone that Barack didn’t like, and didn’t want to debate with. He was probably like a pesky gnat that just wouldn’t go away no matter how much you swatted it.
The libs are like a deer in the headlights at this latest startling lie Clinton has been caught at (Clinton/lie, Clinton/lie, has a familiar ring to it).
I don’t think there are many Hillary fans left here.
They are completely blown away.
Not only has her claim at “experience” been completely washed away, but so has her integrity.
AmWay, the WE Blog now has a dedicated topic on this latest Clinton lie.
I still would bet money that Clinton get’s the nomination. Superdelegates and all, and the Wright fiasco which has turned away many would-be Obama voters.
And who is that Box or Block :: idiot? Is that Chas or Sugar?
Secondary purity is a relgious term - not an anatomical one. It’s something my former parish priest commended me for - copiously. After all, according to him, most post-abortive women were filthy beasts who indulged in cheap sex with multiple partners - three times a day and thrice on Sundays.
That wasn’t me - not by a long shot.
Then again, it isn’t that hard, either. It isn’t hard to be celibate when you’re six feet tall and you continually hear the following:
“Way-ull, gee whiz, ‘Songbird’, yer real nice…..yew sure are funny…..ya gotta great sense of hewmur……and g-d–mit you’re tot’ly purrty…..but yer height intimidates me an awful lot.”
This exuded from the throat of a Lou Diamond Phillips lookalike - months before I moved from K.C. to St. Louis in 1994. I told that was OK. “You don’t wind my clock anyway,” I declared.
My lord, I’m a snooty bee-yiitch. No wonder I’m still a (secondary) virgin.
I hope you are wrong Max. I hope democrats have been contacting their party and voicing their concerns about the super-delegates not following the will of the people.
Gotta go now. Big stack of paperwork from being gone the past few days. You all have a good day now! And remember, ANYbody can sign off with ANY words they choose! I happen to like the way Chas. signs off. It’s really neat!
Wow! You mean, I’m not the only six-foot songstress in Wichita? I can’t believe it. Growing up in Hays, there weren’t any tall broadolas. I was an oddity - an anomaly among women. Succinctly, I wasn’t blessed amongst any living species, porcine or human.
I was, in effect, the Unabomber.
Kudos to the man who isn’t emasculated by this, but is secure enough in his own masculinity to accept it.
“Shots fired downtown; streets blocked off
BY STAN FINGER AND TIM POTTER, The Wichita Eagle
A police officer was shot at in downtown Wichita today, and police are closing down a two-square-block radius centered on Third and Emporia as they search for the shooter.”
Makes me wonder if the shooter is a licensed CC type person?? Hopefully, not!!
Holy crap! I live very close to 3rd & Emporia! Now I’m wondering if it’s safe to walk home. My hooptie’s still in the shop - until next week - and I’ve gotta trudge home on my own two legs until that time!
If there’s one good thang ’bout bein’ tall - it’s that I usually intimidate all the riffraff out there. All’s I gotta do is shoot ‘em one of my feral “don’t f— with me” looks and they usually back off.
In fact, they wilt faster than if someone had excised a very strategic body part, left it in the blazing sun to shrink, hollowed it out into a catcher’s mit, and fed-ex’d it to Boy George for his next softball tournament.
I hope there are no fatalities here. Wichita has far too much crime as it is.
“Big difference between McClame’s burp the other day regarding Iran and Sunni’s/shites. When someone says something unintentionally, and corrects in immediately in the same conversation -THAT my friends is a ‘misspoke’.
McCain “misspoke” FOUR times, during two days.
McCain probabaly would have continued to “misspeak” forever, if Uncle Joe had not whispered in his ear that his dumb claim was false.
That’s not a “misspeak”. That’s being flat-out wrong.
McCain’s false claim was about a simple, basic, important, and obvious “foreign policy” fact.
Wow Vaughn, we’re neighbors. I’m on Main, just South of Douglas. I heard sirens but they are so common down here that I really don’t pay attention anymore.
TDT, I know, and generally, I wouldn’t have paid all that much attention to them. It was just the number of them that got my ears, so to speak, wondering just what was going on.
Although the total number of abortions committed annually in America has decreased somewhat in recent years, the number of black babies killed in abortion mills is increasing, largely because of the targeting of the black race by Planned Parenthood’s racist abortionist quacks. In 2005, black mothers committed 683,294 abortions, which was 56% of legalized infanticides in the USofA, though blacks are less than 13% of the population. From 2000 to 2005, the total number of dead black babies in American abortion mills rose by 153,040. Nearly half of all black babies die in abortion mills.
More to come: long-term devastating effects on future births to black women who bear the physical scars of abortion without being rendered sterile, seen now in appalling increases in premature births, cerebral palsy in infants, and infant mortality rates during the first year of life.
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Former Mississippi and Alabama abortionist quack Malachy DeHenre has received the maximum jail sentence of 20 years for killing his wife. In January, DeHenre, who has lost his medical license in three states over botched abortions and raping his abortion mill victims, was found guilty by a grand jury of shooting his wife in the head 10 years ago.
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Pro-abortion Ohio Governor Ted Strickland, in the face of a veto override vote, has signed a pro-life informed consent bill that helps give women information about their unborn child they don’t normally receive from an abortion mill. It requires the abortionist quack to give mothers considering an abortion an opportunity to view an ultrasound of the baby before mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading the infant. The new law takes effect in 90 days, and if enforced, will cause a noticeable decline in Ohio abortions, and in abortion mill profits.
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“It is to Barack Obama’s credit that, as an Illinois state senator, he voted against BAIPA twice, and then, as chairman of the Health and Human Services Committee in 2003, prevented it from advancing to the floor.”
. . . pro-abortion activist Dana Goldstein, writing on the RH Reality Check blog, praising Obama’s opposition to the state Born Alive Infants Protection Act, lest babies born alive during abortions get any medical care, deserving in their mind only to be tossed aside to conveniently die alone and untouched within a few minutes or hours
I have no problem with pregnant women receiving ultrasounds. I have no problem with pro-life individuals counseling them, provided no screaming, hatred or prurient hysteria enters the picture.
I can be coy; I can lie; or I can tell the truth: The right-to-lifers in Hays during the 1970s didn’t make any inroads in my desperation so long ago. It’s rather icky enough to hear teeming filth from someone one is love with (my impregnator); the cries of the post-menopausal and hermaphroditic turned me right off.
Do I wish I could go back in time and radically change the situation? The answer to that is an emphatic “yes.” But I’m not the same person I was so many years ago.
Everyone - on both sides of this issue - needs to eschew the vitriol. I don’t always succeed. I’ve tried of late. But when some 62-year-old weirdo from the South tells me that 1) Not only was I the guiltier party; but 2) my rapist/impregnator bears absolutely no responsibility for my abortion….
I sort of lose it. And I’m really not ashamed of it. I let him have it - and I shut him up. It was quite something to see.
It’s not a happy situation to realize the extent of one’s own wasted time - and the import of this. That’s probably one reason I can’t stomach the idea of clamoring for Dr. Tiller’s skull - or counting the days until he descends into Hades.
There’s too much regret, unhappiness, chagrin and pain to go around. But then, I’m old-fashioned, so……………..
Wow. As we prepare to go to the Olympics in China, we ought to ask this:
“Why Do Palestinians Get Much More Attention than Tibetans?”
An exerpt:
“Consider the facts: Tibet, at least 1,400 years old, is one of the world’s oldest nations, has its own language, its own religion and even its own ethnicity. Over 1 million of its people have been killed by the Chinese, its culture has been systematically obliterated, 6,000 of its 6,200 monasteries have been looted and destroyed, and most of its monks have been tortured, murdered or exiled.
“Palestinians have none of these characteristics. There has never been a Palestinian country, never been a Palestinian language, never been a Palestinian ethnicity, never been a Palestinian religion in any way distinct from Islam elsewhere. Indeed, “Palestinian” had always meant any individual living in the geographic area called Palestine. For most of the first half of the 20th century, “Palestinian” and “Palestine” almost always referred to the Jews of Palestine. The United Jewish Appeal, the worldwide Jewish charity that provided the nascent Jewish state with much of its money, was actually known as the United Palestine Appeal. Compared to Tibetans, few Palestinians have been killed, its culture has not been destroyed nor its mosques looted or plundered, and Palestinians have received billions of dollars from the international community. Unlike the dying Tibetan nation, there are far more Palestinians today than when Israel was created.”
“Missouri GOP Playing Machine Politics with Ron Paul Delegates
ARLINGTON, Va.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–The Ron Paul campaign has been receiving reports that Missouri GOP rules have been violated in the set-up and execution of several county Republican caucuses. Ron Paul supporters in Missouri have been attending their county caucuses and electing Ron Paul delegates to be seated at the Missouri Republican State Convention. However, there are concerns that many Ron Paul delegates to the Missouri Republican State Convention were disenfranchised and not properly seated.
On Thursday, March 20, campaign field director Debbie Hopper visited the Missouri state GOP headquarters to request a copy of the records needed to obtain the information to file challenges. She was told in front of witnesses that she could not view the report. To obtain the needed information, Ms. Hopper then used the contact information of county chairs listed on the state GOP website. On Saturday, March 22, the webpage containing their contact information had been removed.
The Paul campaign believes that a handful of GOP officials are playing machine politics and breaking their own rules to disenfranchise Paul supporters.
“The Republican party is in trouble and needs more participants in 2008, not less,” said campaign manager Lew Moore. “It makes no sense for Missouri party leaders to exclude and marginalize the new activists they badly need to work at every level this fall.”
Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul’s supporters have been highly successful in several Missouri counties. In St. Charles County (suburb of St. Louis), Paul supporters filled 241 of the 274 country Republican delegate slots. In Jackson County (Kansas City), Paul supporters filled 162 of 187 delegate slots. And in Greene County (Springfield), Paul supporters filled 72 of 112 delegate slots. ”
You know GMC, that question about Tibet is one heck of a good question.
And there are many other nations of the world that are forgotten.
I know someone who is originally from Kenya. He was in the middle of the fighting that broke out there during the elections. Over 6,000 killed, but little attention was given to this by the American press.
Here’s a country, having free Democratic elections with multiple political parties for the first time, battling for Freedom, and the press ignores it.
The fight for Freedom has no value to the Liberal Press today.
The Liberal Socialist Democrats rarely dare utter the word “Freedom” today. Freedom isn’t on their agenda.
Oh BTW, this man from Kenya that I know, was able to get back to the US (he’s now a US citizen) only because he knew someone who was in the military who had a gun. This man was able to provide an escort to the airport.
Guns are banned in Kenya. Only those in the military and outlaws in gangs have guns. Kenya borders Somalia - a country without rules without laws. Somalia is complete anarchy since Clinton surrendered there in the 90’s. Somalia is where gangs in Kenya get supplied with illegal guns.
Roadblocks were set up by gangs, and if you were from the wrong tribe, you did not get through - unless you were armed and could convince them to allow you the freedom to pass.
The liberal college professor asked the young immigrant student why he was so restless. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow the country’s government and install a new communist government.
In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked, “Do you know how to catch wild pigs?”
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said this was no joke. “You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a Fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.
Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.”
The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. While we continually lose our freedoms - just A little at a time.
One should always remember “There is no such thing as a free Lunch!” Also, “You can never hire someone to provide a service for you Cheaper than you can do it yourself.
Also, if you see that all of this wonderful government “help” is a problem confronting the future of our republic in America, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life then you will probably delete this email, but God help you when the gate slams shut!
Let’s keep things real and down to earth… I ask myself these things every day
1. What could I do to further the agenda of Ron Paul or his candidates?
2. What did I do today to help the cause?
3. What could I do to bring people together…(Divided we fall)
4. What can I do to help the next event furthering the cause
5. What can I do to make sure I do NOT get complacent again??
Ya get no arguement from me that what is happening in Tibet is wrong. As far as I’m concerned, it’s good enough reason to revoke China’s most favored trading status.
Interesting little story ya got there solie.
It could just as easily be applied to capitalism.
Workers show up. The company gives them a marginal existence and makes their health care dependant on keeping their job. Same cage.
Max
Posted March 25, 2008 at 6:23 pm | Permalink
You know GMC, that question about Tibet is one heck of a good question.
And there are many other nations of the world that are forgotten.
I know someone who is originally from Kenya. He was in the middle of the fighting that broke out there during the elections. Over 6,000 killed, but little attention was given to this by the American press.
Here’s a country, having free Democratic elections with multiple political parties for the first time, battling for Freedom, and the press ignores it.
The fight for Freedom has no value to the Liberal Press today.
The Liberal Socialist Democrats rarely dare utter the word “Freedom” today. Freedom isn’t on their agenda.
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Max, is your news being censored where you live?? I followed the Kenyan elections on both CNN AND MSNBC… Not to mention that our denomination sent out an email alert, asking for prayers for the election process in Kenya, and noted the uprisings and killings taking place there… I have a VERY good friend doing medical mission work in the SW part of Kenya, in a big teaching hospital there…
BTW, “Frontline” just ran a preview about their next show on “Voodoo Company” in which a GI says, “I don’t like the reason we’re over here, and when are they going to start bringing people home?”
For a moment I mistakenly believed that what he said was true, but then I remembered Hank saying that all the troops support the war, so I knew that the GI who was stationed there was lying . . .
Who are you going to believe? Your own eyes and ears or Hank Price?
Yes Chas. The Kenyan news was being censored, and still is likely.
The death reports you see online are not nearly as high as Timon (from Kenya) told me. Timon went back home for a month to vote, and to help a family member who was running for a local city council type position.
The good news is that the one who likely won the election was made Prime Minister (2nd Place) while the crooked majority party stayed in power for another 5 years as President. Prime Minister there has much power, not as much as the President, but they control much of the internal affairs.
Everything was portrayed as peaceful and orderly in the news, up to the point where the votes being counted indicated the current President would be defeated. That’s when the cheating of vote counting began, followed by violence.
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Truth, justice, and the American Way.
Just one of 261,000,000 American’s with Health Insurance.
Wow! Open Thread 3-25 was posted 11 hours 50 minutes ago.
American Way posted March 24, 2008 at 6:51 pm
“Just one of 261,000,000 American’s with Health Insurance.”
And don’t you just love how the premiums keep climbing higher and higher every year?
Or how the private insurers love to deny claims in the hopes you won’t fight for your benefits and you’ll pay your own medical bills.
Cosmos,
You mean like gas prices?
You mean like KU tuition up 150% over five years?
You mean like the price of bread and food lately? (because of idiots supporting ethanol)
Of course no one likes to pay higher prices. But I don’t ask the government buy my bread for me.
I like picking out my own loaf and paying a premimum for the quality of bread I select.
I wouldn’t get too cozy in that ivory tower of yours, AM.
Life can happen to any of us and usually does.
I have never accepted a government handout in my life, either….but that doesn’t mean I may never have to.
“Life is what happens when you’ve made other plans”
American Way,
Health insurance premiums are rising much faster than food, gas, etc.
You’re paying for the people who don’t have insurance, and make expensive trips to the ER.
You’re paying for the insurance companies marketing, their paper shufflers, and all of the insurance agents — none of those costs improves the quality of your health care.
If they took the middle men out of health care, the insurance and drug companies who spend billons on advertising and promoting themselves, heathcare would be affordable to the average American.
“If they took the middle men out of health care..”
Who is “they” Mary?
“none of those costs improves the quality of your health care.”
I shrugged to everything else in your last post. So what? I pay for the best - and I am getting the best.
But regarding your last comment: neither does the government tax breaks for ethanol improve the quality of my environment. But to follow on with my loaf of bread: none of those costs changes the quality of flavor of my whole wheat Home Pride bread. Mmmm Mmmm good!
The government…if there were more regulations on the industry, somewhat modeled after Japan and Canada’s laws, it would make the health care system work better for everyone.
American Way posted March 24, 2008 at 7:40 pm
“I pay for the best - and I am getting the best.”
I’m glad that you like to pay more than you have to, to pay for the uninsured ER visits, the advertizing, the insurance agents, etc.
Not everyone has excess money to throw away.
Mary, please. The government can’t wipe their as- without fifteen pieces of paper instruction.
It is the government, and their regulations which PUSHED the middlemen into existence!
And go to Japan and enjoy a hospital stay. You know who makes your bed/futon? Your wife or family. You know who brings you your food? Your wife of family.
Talk about a dirty stinky place. Go visit a japanese hospital.
Excuse me…but in my experience, Medicaid, Medicare, and the VA work quite well…and all three are directed, regulated,and supervised by the government.
The common notion that government subsidized health care will be substandard is a myth.
In Japan, drug companies can’t advertise their drugs to the public (in the USA, drug companies spend BILLIONS each year on advertising and pass the cost onto the consumers), or provide perks to doctors for prescribing their drugs.
That’s just one small example of how to bring down the cost of health care. Believe me, just because we have the most expensive health care system in the world, that doesn’t necessarily make it the best. You can’t use the analogy of getting what you pay for when it comes to our health care industry. And everyone of us is vulnerable to losing our benefits if we’re lucky enough to have them in the first place.
Hospitals spend billions on equipment they don’t need and making themselves look like 5 star hotels just so they can compete with each other….Wichita alone has the most hosptial beds per capita of any city in the United States. There is duplication of services all over the place…and those who can’t afford insurance use the emergency rooms to get medical treatment…and guess who pays for all of this? We all do with out of sight medical costs.
Mary Caruso; In order to have what you think you want in health insurance the aims and objects or misson statement must be one of delivering quality, timely care based soley on need and not the ability to pay. The mind set in the US about government intervention, especially something so critical as healthcare, is perhaps more pronounced than here. I can understand the reluctance, for lots of Canadians fought universal coverage very hard and for a very long time when it was first introduced but 90%+ wouldn’t change it now.
“Excuse me…but in my experience, Medicaid, Medicare, and the VA work quite well…and all three are directed, regulated,and supervised by the government.”
Excuse me, but in my experience, Medicare pays slowly,and lowly,and the va is okay, if you can;t go anywhere else.
“The common notion that government subsidized health care will be substandard is a myth”
I don;t believe so, I have seen far to many examples to think otherwise.
In some countries in Europe, there is so much more emphasis on preventative health care. For example, in order for a mother to qualify for family leave when she delivers her baby, she must have had adequate prenatal care. With that one simple rule, more babies are born healthy and thus the cost of providing medical care for them has gone way down.
We could do SO much more for preventative health care in our country..that alone would save a lot of money.
Are you kidding? Medicare and Medicaid as fast or faster than most private insurers because they don’t play the game of denying and nit picking claims.
Where do you get your health care experience, littlejohn?
Do you plan to use your Medicare benefits when the time comes? Or are you going to continue to depend on private insurance? It amazes me how many people who rail against government substidized health care are the ones who have Medicare or utilize the VA’s health care system.
“The common notion that government subsidized health care will be substandard is a myth”
“I don;t believe so, I have seen far to many examples to think otherwise.”
Care to give some examples that you’ve seen in this country of substandard medical care that is government substidized?
I have a challenge for you littlejohn…why don’t you go to any hospital in this country and tell me if you can identify the difference between the patients with Medicaid, Medicare, or private insurance?
Mary Caruso: You are quite right about preventative healthcare driving down costs, and for what it’s worth there is a 12 month or better maternity leave with pay in most European countries, as it is here. It is now illegal to smoke in your car if there is a child with you and I honestly don’t know if Americans could stomach such governmental intervention to make the system work. Maybe we’re less assertive hereabouts……..
Wichita alone has the most hosptial beds per capita of any city in the United States”
not according to this study
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http://books.google.com/books?id=Nblmo4F3qLMC&pg=RA1-PA500&lpg=RA1-PA500&dq=us+hospital+beds+per+capita&source=web&ots=0N3v_HVvcb&sig=kkmR6OFLl8kGazIl18f6YJa5WMY&hl=en#PRA1-PA12,M1
The first thing we could do is take the junk food and soda machines out of the schools and make more time for phys ed.
The obesity crisis with our kids is going to really be a problem. I’ve actually seen young kids with cholesterol levels over 300 because they live on a diet of junk food.
So are you saying there is no duplication of services here in Doodah, little john?
Maybe my facts are wrong on the hospital beds, I was told that by a person in the hospital industry here in Wichita.
My point is…..there are many ways to bring down the cost of health care without sacrificing the quality. The big problem with our whole system is there is too much greed and not enough concern for the consumer.
Off to bed…long day at work tomorrow. At least with our present health care system I know I’ll always have a job.
There is a big problem with Medicare going on right now, and you can ask anyone who works on the ambulance.
The insurance companies that own medicare have enacted this new rule where the techs have to document that there was no other way to transport a patient except by ambulance. That means we have to actually stop and tell the person that they get to choose between sitting there in a pool of vomit (because hey, they can sit up- they can go by car!)…even if they have nobody else to take them….OR they’ll have to foot the bill themselves.
Something needs to seriously be done about this, and it stemmed from too many docs who called the ambulances for transfers. Now granted, we needed to reduce transfers, but this is hurting patients who really need to go by ambulance.
Sleep tight Mary and rest assured no candidate will dismantle our present healthcare system.
As I’ve said, 251 million Americans have health insurance. That is 84 percent of the US population.
A very, very large majority.
Of the claimed 49 million without, at least 10 million are illegal criminals hiding within our borders. Of the remainder, many simply choose not to pay for insurance. Boats, SUV’s, and motorhomes are more important. Many of these make over $60,000 a year.
Of the remainder: Yes, they need assistance in some fashion or another.
But no responsible senator, congressman, or presidential candidate is going to destory what clearly works for the majority of Americans.
Unhappy with the high COST? Get over it. Do you take your car to the cheapest auto repair facility or do you take it to the best? How much MORE is your life worth?
Sure we all complain about the high cost of things. No one LIKES to spend money (unless you are a liberal and it is someone elses).
So keep on whining Mary. The candidates have the dollars from the healthcare industry and the voice of the majority of Americans.
You and the press are going to cry to no avail.
Pleasant dreams.
“American way” James.
National health care is coming. And you best get used to the idea.
Obamanation now claims he’s a uniter, and not really a liberal. He says he has been voting on the extreme far left in the U.S. Senate because the only votes that come up are purposely designed to divide people. But when he’s leftist-in-chief, he’ll decide what votes come up, focusing on advancing non-dividing issues
like socialized medicine that includes taxpayer-funded abortions, amnesty for illegal aliens, environmental restrictions to prevent global warming [now that we've had the coldest winter since 2001], and declaring defeat and retreat in Iraq [now that we're about to achieve major victories against Middle East terrorism].
Congressman Ron Paul will be making a first hour appearance tonite on Coast to Coast AM… In Wichita, that would be KFH, at Midnight…
You might want to pass the word, all of you Ron Paul supporters!!
Los Angeles California has the most Hospital Beds per Capita per the World Almanac. They also have the most Hospitals per Capita in the USA.The have the most nursing homes and nursing home beds per Capita also. They have the most nurses to patients ratio also. 1 nurse to every 100 patients. It used to be 1 nurse to every 10 patients. Go figure. Money over healthcare needs. Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist
parkay posted March 24, 2008 at 9:32 pm
“ environmental restrictions to prevent global warming [now that we’ve had the coldest winter since 2001]”
Both a La Nina, and a solar minimum, caused global cooling in 2007.
It got so cold, it tied the very warm year in 1998, that was caused by a record warm El Nino, plus human-caused warming.
Tied. Two natural cooling factors in 2007, tied a record natural warming factor in 1998. Think carefully about that.
Herbster, can I get a dime of what you are smoking?
Must be some great shit - BC Bud?
“’American way’ James.
“National health care is coming. And you best get used to the idea.”
You are correct J R. AmWay is not quite as smart as J.M., so I’d disagree there. AmWay makes more $ than the James does, but so what? Dick Cheney isn’t concerned about the up and down of American opinion, so why should AmWay and James have such concerns?
In the spirit of Lawrence Welk…
Good night, sleep tight and pleasant dreams to you
Here’s a wish and prayer that every dream comes true
And though it’s always sweet sorrow to part
I know you’ll always remain in my heart
Good night, sleep tight and pleasant dreams to you
Here’s a wish and a prayer that every dream comes true
And now ’til we meet again
Adios, au revior, auf weidersehen…..Good Night!
[now that we’re about to achieve major victories against Middle East terrorism].
Any day now, any day now…………………
Just about there………………………..
Any day now, any day now…………………
Almost…………………………………
Any day now, any day now…………………
Amazing It’s like the Blog has a built in lights out time or something. All of them just slip away into the woodwork, or somewhere. Hmmmm
Good night; Good luck;
God bless - whatever you conceive God to be!
Easter Blessings All!!
WSClark is an a@@. Read the World Almanacs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Herb West III
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It is amazing how everyone left.
Chas
Yes quite mysterious.
Sugar
I wonder why they left.
Chas
Who cares, we have the blog all to ourselves now!
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Yes!
Chas
I’m going to bed and taking you guys with me.
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Goodnight!
Sugar
Goodnight!
Chas
Come on guys, time to sleep. Big long day blogging tomorrow.
Hey Chas. isnt the only one who can say Good Night, you A$$ Hole!! Damn Troll!!
James/Regular/et al — You will find out how serious your problem really is, if you dont stop stealing other peoples’ nics, and trying to equate the poster Chas. with every Nic on the Blog. I happen to buy a lot of advertising with the Eagle. But, I am giving them warning, that if you and your little Blog friends arent brought under control, my advertising money is going elsewhere. They will have words for you. You can bet on that.
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Yes, we bought that Garage Sale ad last year for $15.
Sugar
And don’t forget the ad for lawn mowing. Chas paid $15 for that one too. Made over $75 mowing lawns.
Chas
Don’t forget that couples wanted ad.
Sugar
He He, ya almost forgot about that one!
The WE Blog will go broke without us!
You have been warned Troll. No further warnings will be given. Its your choice.
I read something very scary yesterday on the 3/24 Open Thread. Something even scarier than “Ann Coulter’s coming to town.”
What I heard was this: Ron Parsley is McCain’s pastor. And if McCain is elected, heaven help us all. Because we’ll need all the prayers we can get.
About 12 months ago, I was standing in front of my bathroom mirror (my fave-rave place in the whole, wide WORLD), applying my makeup as is my daily habit. I had idly turned on the TV as a backdrop to my daily travails, and soon I heard sounds. Horrible sounds. Guttural sounds. Sounds that conjured memories of my dead, drunken daddy, who had mercifully croaked decades ago.
I strode out to my living room, and there I saw Pastor Parsley. Prowling the stage like a rabid panther in heat, the mighty man of gawd was intent on getting his message across.
The problem was, the Songbird wasn’t buying it. All that screamin’ and yellin’ and hair-pullin’ and booty-shakin’ and belly-quakin’ and hell-fie-yah wasn’t gettin’ through to me. And when the all-knowing avatar declared, “I know your pain,” the Songbird really lost it.
“Shut the #$%& up!” I snarled. “You don’t know my pain - you don’t have a clue!” Of course, no televangelist’s tirades would be complete without something else - a plea for dough. He weren’t gettin’ none from me - even if I had it to give.
If McCain gets elected prez, I’ll turn my eyes to the heavens and pray. Because if this dude inspires McCain, I feel for his staff.
People in pain and/or under stress don’t need histrionics. They need sane-ness. They need serenity. They need calm. They need a bridge over their own troubled waters (or water on the brain, as I like to say if it refers to meself sometimes).
Mr. Parsley can regularly be seen on Sunday moan-in’s peddling his wares. Of course, he’s got a lot to say ’bout a lotta things. Jack of all trades (and a particularly loud one at that) - but master of none.
He may indeed “know my pain” - but I’m not buying it. That’s the problem. And if McCain’s buying it, gawd help us - each and every one.
Block Head,
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!
WHY DON’T YOU STFUP!!!!!
Where’s open thread? I have something to discuss that does not apply to any of these threads!! So I’ll do it here.
Patriot Act used in drug case; lawyer riled
BY TIM POTTER
The Wichita Eagle
“I thought that this Patriot Act was something passed to protect us all from these terrorist acts, and it would be used very judiciously,” O’Hara said Monday. “This doesn’t seem to be one where these secret searches would be used.”
http://www.kansas.com/topstories/story/351592.html
This is where Vaughn and GMC would come in handy. I agree with the defense attorney, I thought that the patriot act was specifically for tracking terrorist using our phone and internet lines in the U.S. I guess I need it explained a little more thoroughly.
Okay, no laughing at me because I just found the open thread. Seriously, I’ll pull a Nathan on you if you do!!
Chas
Who cares, we have the blog all to ourselves now!
It’s bad to have internet nookey with each other while you’re both AT THE SAME KEYBOARD!!!
*ducks*
Don’t ya hate the square impressions left on your keester?
Okay, no laughing at me because I just found the open thread
TDT, they just got lazy and used the clicker on yesterday’s Open. It wasn’t your fault.
(Or, like they tell me at work, “you’re not lazy, you’re efficient”)
(BS, I’m stinkin’ lazy!)
Looks like Salina is gearing up for the upcoming water wars over Kanopolis and the Smoky. Cant wait for Salina, Russell, and Hays to duke it out. Whatever will governor “leadership” do?
http://www.saljournal.com/rdnews/story/city—water—study—3-24-08
TDT,
I’m not inherently conversant with the various provisions of the “USA Patriot Act”, as enacted and as amended upon reenactment. Thus, I’ll be of little to no help in responding to your query. I do know there are certain sections of the same that have little to nothing to do with the “threat from terrorism” or national security as such, but were included therein for reasons that currently escape me.
Mr. O’Hara is a very competent criminal defense attorney. I’m sure he has parsed the statute very carefully in preparation of his motion. I’m also sure that the U.S. Attorney’s office response is based upon a reading of the statute more careful than that which I could do as a volunteer.
With that said, I note that there was a warrant issued; there seems to be little dispute about that. There also seems to be no dispute that the warrant was issued under the provisions of said Act. These observations are based upon the report you linked. Other than that I cannot say.
KFG, you just read the Eagle on-line? I’m thinking it had more coverage than your article within the last week or so.
Vaughn - So the argument of whether the evidence obtained is legal boils down to whether they could search a drug dealers house under the Patriot Act, with a warrant, and submit what they collect as evidence.
Personally, I would think this is a slippery slope. Where do they draw the line with using this Patriot Act. Yes, we all detest drug dealers, but that doesn’t make circumventing the law to prosecute them just.
TDT, you have captured the essence of the argument I believe. The warrant was, according to Mr. O’Hara, and not contravened by the government, a “secret warrant”. To the best of my knowledge, the “Patriot Act” is the only statute that provides for such warrants. There may well be some other statutes with similar provisions, but as I have long since left the world of criminal defense work, I’ve no acquaintance with any of these.
I’ll rephrase your query another way, to wit: Whether the warrant issued by the U.S. District Court for the search of the property in question was proper under the provisions of [insert citation of particular section of the Patriot Act here] such that the evidence obtained thereby is properly admissible in the action. It seems to me that the magistrate issuing the warrant felt that such provision authorized the same, or else the warrant would not have been issued.
GMC, as you are a prosecutor, you may have an insight into this which would be valuable to us. Perhaps you might share, if you have time.
VT,
I can’t thank you enough for turning me on to GnuCash. I can’t believe it is free. Got my chart of accounts all set and made it through the amazing help file.
Thanx again, this was a huge money saver.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-325/#comment-319268
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Posted March 25, 2008 at 12:08 am | Permalink
Good night; Good luck;
God bless - whatever you conceive God to be!
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Chas,
Do you still deny you are double colon?
TDT, I also have grave reservations and concerns about the procedure apparently followed in this case. However, I feel compelled to say that if there is clear statutory authority for this action, the problems which arise therefrom are clearly ones that must be addressed by the Court using Constitutional considerations, absent amendment by the Congress.
Sol, no problem. As I believe I posted when we were in our discussions of this particular application, I try to make potential users aware of it when it appears to have benefit to them. I’m happy it is working so well for you.
VT - It will be interesting to see how far this will go? I really will be curious if they allow the evidence what statute they used.
TDT, I’ve done a cursory look at the Patriot Act provisions, and would suggest that section 213 of the same which amended 18 USC 3103a is where the question lies.
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I can say goodnite too ya know!
Chas
Yeah but, :: you stole my lines!
Sugar
We all be the same Chas.
Chas
Ok. Who is Block Head?
Block Head
That be you Chas.
Supreme Court Justices Breyer, Ginsburg and Souter Side with George W Bush on Death Penalty case of convicted mexican murderer.
“President Bush overstepped his authority when he ordered a Texas court to reopen the case of a Mexican on death row for rape and murder, the Supreme Court said Tuesday.”
“Bush was in the unusual position of siding with death row prisoner Jose Ernesto Medellin, a Mexican citizen whom police prevented from consulting with Mexican diplomats, as provided by international treaty”
“Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for the majority, disagreed. Roberts said the international court decision cannot be forced upon the states.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341316,00.html
Kudus to everyone but Breyer, Ginsburg, Souter and least of all President Bush.
CLINTON LIES, BIG AND SMALL
Part of Clinton’s embellishment of her “experience.” I bet McCain has a nice reply about sniper fire experience.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/clinton-says-sh.html
Clinton says she ‘misspoke’ about sniper fire, calls misstatement a ‘minor blip’
It wasn’t just “possible” that Hillary Rodham Clinton misspoke last week when she said she was greeted with sniper fire on arrival in Bosnia 12 years ago — the Democratic presidential candidate now concedes she did misspeak.
But she calls the mistake a “minor blip.”
To recap:
Last week, Clinton said during a speech that she remembers “landing under sniper fire” in Tuzla, Bosnia, on March 25, 1996. She and her traveling party, including daughter Chelsea, had to run “with our heads down” to get from their plane to vehicles waiting for them, Clinton said.
A little fact-checking, including by The Washington Post, turned up no evidence of any such sniper shooting.
Early yesterday afternoon, Clinton presidential campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson conceded to reporters that “it is possible in the most recent instance in which she discussed this that she misspoke with regard to the exit from the plane.”
Then later in the day, Clinton herself was talking to reporters and editors from the Philadelphia Daily News. Will Bunch, who writes the Attytood blog for the Daily News, asked about the Bosnia brouhaha and Clinton said, in part:
Now let me tell you what I can remember, OK — because what I was told was that we had to land a certain way and move quickly because of the threat of sniper fire. So I misspoke — I didn’t say that in my book or other times but if I said something that made it seem as though there was actual fire — that’s not what I was told. …
I think that, a minor blip, you know, if I said something that, you know, I say a lot of things — millions of words a day — so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement.
Officials are trying to determine whether to file charges against a man who fatally shot his wife while trying to install a satellite television system in their home.
Patsy D. Long, 34, of Deep Water, was pronounced dead early Saturday evening after being shot in the chest with a .22-caliber handgun. Her husband, Ronald Long, fired the shot from the inside of their home after several unsuccessful efforts to punch a hole through the exterior wall using other means.
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Just another “responsible gun owner.”
Jesus……I hate the political arena. All the backstabbing, backbiting, obfuscating, ….hell, I’ve worked with enough women in the workforce to be thoroughly sick of such tactics.
Maybe that’s why I glom onto insipid TV programs like “Dancing With the Stars” and “The Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious.” It ain’t high art - but what the heck. I don’t have to deal with Obama’s race-whore of a pastor or Hillary’s overactive seminal gland of a hubbie and the legacy he’s left.
I certainly will vote come November. It’s my civic duty; provided, of course, that I can drag my a$$ out of my chair to do so. If this f–king arthritis gets any worse, I may not be able to vote.
Then again, the Songbird probably just needs to lose weight - then the hip agony will probably abate. After all, if someone put “Hog Futures” betwixst MY name, I think I’d just DIE………
This is amazing, the experience of Hillary Clinton in Bosnia. I’m sure Bill was quite worried about her.
Hillary Clinton was in Bosnia, at the airport, for 20 WHOLE MINUTES!!!
http://politics.nytimes.com/clinton-schedules#bookmark=1996-03-95
You can’t outlaw stupidity any more then you can outlaw Monkey brains.
“Of the claimed 49 million without, at least 10 million are illegal criminals hiding within our borders. Of the remainder, many simply choose not to pay for insurance. Boats, SUV’s, and motorhomes are more important. Many of these make over $60,000 a year.”
Please back up these alleged facts with a link.
The following tends to dispute your claims:
http://www.kff.org/uninsured/upload/7613.pdf
What does “many” mean in your lexicon? The above link indicates among uninsured adults who don’t have children 23% are at or above 300% of the Federal Poverty Level - which was used as an operational definition of who could afford private insurance. The link also points out depending their health status people at the 300% FPL may not be able to afford private insurance - poorer health means insurance costs more.
I am going to stop short of claiming you are being outright deceptive, but I think your partisan parsing of words is evident. “It depends on what the definition of ‘is’ is” … anybody?
Bush Sr?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341307,00.html
93-Year-Old Man Charged in Prostitution Sting in Florida
Lucky for you, “Max” –
Otherwise you’d be the new Al Capone.
Bill Clinton’s Dad?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341323,00.html
Son Honors Dad’s Wish, Hires Stripper for Taiwan Funeral
Need to outlaw the Easter Bunny.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341283,00.html
911 Tapes Released in Case of 8-Month-Old Injured While Visiting Mall Easter Bunny
This is news to Liberals.
A view of Obama from within the University of Chicago.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341110,00.html
Blacks Have a Choice to Be, or Not to Be, a ‘Victim’
Politicians constantly make righting the wrongs of discrimination the central core of their message to black voters. Elder says that Democrats need black people to be angry and constantly feel aggrieved to keep 90 percent of them voting for Democrats.
Elder’s book helps me understand why Obama would join Wright’s church with its emphasis on black liberation theology to help protect him from blacks who could feel that he would challenge the victimization culture and the view that government is necessary to rescue blacks.
Obama at times is given credit for saying “don’t expect government to solve all their problems,” though it is hard to actually find an issue where that old approach doesn’t apply.
Academia is overwhelmingly filled with liberals and many even to the left of that, but most liberal academics enjoy arguing with those whom they disagree with. Debate and discussion over lunch and in the halls is what makes academia a fun place to be.
But Obama was not like that.
Possibly it was his anger over our differences over the gun issue or a broader anger with those with whom he disagreed, but attempts to engage in discussions ended with a stern looks and a turned back. That was true whether I met him at school or someplace else. There was anger there.
Max–
What the hell is that?
I can’t make heads nor tails out of it?
Does it have a point?
Agrees with KFG: Max=rolover territory
Clinton Lies Again, This Time Clinton Lies About Lying
First time in 12 Years she “Misspoke”!!! Bullcr*p!!! What a High Horse she is on!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/25/clinton-admits-rare-error-when-she-misspoke-about-bosnia-sniper-threat/
Clinton: I Made a Rare Error When I ‘Misspoke’ About Bosnia Sniper Threat
Speaking to KDKA radio in Pittsburgh, the Democratic presidential candidate said it’s been a long campaign and this is the first time she has said the wrong thing.
“I have written about this and described in many different settings and I did misspeak the other day,” Clinton said during a live 10-minute interview. “This has been a very long campaign. … Last week for the first time in 12 years or so, I misspoke.”
The author is John Effing Lott.
Of course, it would be John Lott and of course it would posted on Fox.
John Lott wrote the book More Guns, Less Crime, a careful statistical study that showed more guns seemed to push crime rate down.
Except that no one else who studied Lott’s study came up with the same results he did.
“Not replicable” is the academic term for bull-sh!t studies like Lott’s.
McCain leads Barack Obama 50% to 41% and Hillary Clinton 48% to 43% (see recent daily results).
McCain is viewed favorably by 55% of voters nationwide and unfavorably by 42%. Obama’s reviews are 46% favorable and 52% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 45% favorable, 52% unfavorable
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Clinton beats Obama 46% to 43% today.
Superdelegates will give Clinton the nomination. Too bad Barack.
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history
Throw up your arms in righteous indignation Capn.
Get used to doing that. President Obama will require you to do that.
Or if Clinton steals it from Obama, get used to nagging a lot.
“Clinton: I Made a Rare Error When I ‘Misspoke’ About Bosnia Sniper Threat
Speaking to KDKA radio in Pittsburgh, the Democratic presidential candidate said it’s been a long campaign and this is the first time she has said the wrong thing.”
How do you ‘misspoke’ about crouching and being protected while being under sniper fire.
Hell, that’s just plain lying.
Big difference between McClame’s burp the other day regarding Iran and Sunni’s/shites. When someone says something unintentionally, and corrects in immediately in the same conversation -THAT my friends is a ‘misspoke’.
Telling war stories, and much later getting caught, and then changing the story - is a liar.
Yeah Capn, when I read Max’s post I just assumed that it was probably someone that Barack didn’t like, and didn’t want to debate with. He was probably like a pesky gnat that just wouldn’t go away no matter how much you swatted it.
Songbird - Sign up for the mail-in ballot on-line. That way if your arthritis is acting up, it won’t matter.
http://www.sedgwickcounty.org/elections/information.htm#Voting_Options
Go to “voting options”
thanks, AmWay for clearing a swath through Max’s posts.
You are welcome. Max was coming at you with both barrels blazin’!
I figured you libs needed some cover to have time to heal all those bullet holes.
You are welcome. Max was coming at you with both barrels blazin’!
I wouldn’t know LOL. I see his name and punch the scroll wheel. Just came back to this page 3 times and his last line was still in place.
Thanks, TDT:
Then again, if this arthritis doesn’t get any better befoe’ November, I may go rent a copy of the DVD “The Virgin Suicides” and…………..
Oh, me and my movie analogies…….
And I’m only a secondary virgin at that……
That’s actually very interesting reading to scroll thru the 11,000 pages of Hillary’s experience in the White House.
Traveled here and shook hands, had tea, then left.
Traveled there, and shook hands, had tea, then left.
Just think of the taxpayer dollars she burned thru jetting back and forth and having tea, while Globally Warming the Earth.
And I’m only a secondary virgin at that……
yeah, right, where? Your left nostil?
*ducks*
(ok, that’s what I tell my wife)
Can’t wait to hear some more Hillary “Audie Murphy” stories.
She’s so brave, and experienced.
Where’s Obama’s tea records?
Max,
The libs are like a deer in the headlights at this latest startling lie Clinton has been caught at (Clinton/lie, Clinton/lie, has a familiar ring to it).
I don’t think there are many Hillary fans left here.
They are completely blown away.
Not only has her claim at “experience” been completely washed away, but so has her integrity.
Gooooo OBAMA!!!!!!
Such a group of perverts!
AmWay, the WE Blog now has a dedicated topic on this latest Clinton lie.
I still would bet money that Clinton get’s the nomination. Superdelegates and all, and the Wright fiasco which has turned away many would-be Obama voters.
And who is that Box or Block :: idiot? Is that Chas or Sugar?
Ghoti:
Secondary purity is a relgious term - not an anatomical one. It’s something my former parish priest commended me for - copiously. After all, according to him, most post-abortive women were filthy beasts who indulged in cheap sex with multiple partners - three times a day and thrice on Sundays.
That wasn’t me - not by a long shot.
Then again, it isn’t that hard, either. It isn’t hard to be celibate when you’re six feet tall and you continually hear the following:
“Way-ull, gee whiz, ‘Songbird’, yer real nice…..yew sure are funny…..ya gotta great sense of hewmur……and g-d–mit you’re tot’ly purrty…..but yer height intimidates me an awful lot.”
This exuded from the throat of a Lou Diamond Phillips lookalike - months before I moved from K.C. to St. Louis in 1994. I told that was OK. “You don’t wind my clock anyway,” I declared.
My lord, I’m a snooty bee-yiitch. No wonder I’m still a (secondary) virgin.
Square Peg here “max”
Songbird — my wife is about 6′ 1″ Dont feel bad about it!!
I hope you are wrong Max. I hope democrats have been contacting their party and voicing their concerns about the super-delegates not following the will of the people.
AmWay — Thats just another Limbaugh Myth… Thats not gonna happen!!
Gotta go now. Big stack of paperwork from being gone the past few days. You all have a good day now! And remember, ANYbody can sign off with ANY words they choose! I happen to like the way Chas. signs off. It’s really neat!
Bye for now!
Wow! You mean, I’m not the only six-foot songstress in Wichita? I can’t believe it. Growing up in Hays, there weren’t any tall broadolas. I was an oddity - an anomaly among women. Succinctly, I wasn’t blessed amongst any living species, porcine or human.
I was, in effect, the Unabomber.
Kudos to the man who isn’t emasculated by this, but is secure enough in his own masculinity to accept it.
No problem here Songbird!!
Anybody see or her this yet??
“Shots fired downtown; streets blocked off
BY STAN FINGER AND TIM POTTER, The Wichita Eagle
A police officer was shot at in downtown Wichita today, and police are closing down a two-square-block radius centered on Third and Emporia as they search for the shooter.”
Makes me wonder if the shooter is a licensed CC type person?? Hopefully, not!!
Sup ::/Chas/Sugar/Das?
How’s it hanging? :D
Hanging good.. so how is your sister doing these days?? :-|
So that’s what all the sirens, etc., were about. I was wondering….
Must be in your area Vaughn, don’t hear nothing around here.
Trying to remember what there is at 3rd & Emporia… Cant remember, VT
Holy crap! I live very close to 3rd & Emporia! Now I’m wondering if it’s safe to walk home. My hooptie’s still in the shop - until next week - and I’ve gotta trudge home on my own two legs until that time!
If there’s one good thang ’bout bein’ tall - it’s that I usually intimidate all the riffraff out there. All’s I gotta do is shoot ‘em one of my feral “don’t f— with me” looks and they usually back off.
In fact, they wilt faster than if someone had excised a very strategic body part, left it in the blazing sun to shrink, hollowed it out into a catcher’s mit, and fed-ex’d it to Boy George for his next softball tournament.
I hope there are no fatalities here. Wichita has far too much crime as it is.
Yeah, Regular, my office is at Broadway and Douglas, so emergency vehicles traveling with lights and sirens to the area definitely got my attention.
Chas., that’s around the Vo-Tech central campus, IIRC.
Vaughn, you are just down the street from some female lawyerly acquaintances of mine who dwell on Market Street. :)
Yea, now I remewmber, Vaughn… You in the old Kresge Building??
Chas., the Broadway Plaza Building, a/k/a the Brown Building.
Regular, yes I am.
American Way posted March 25, 2008 at 11:46 am
“Big difference between McClame’s burp the other day regarding Iran and Sunni’s/shites. When someone says something unintentionally, and corrects in immediately in the same conversation -THAT my friends is a ‘misspoke’.
McCain “misspoke” FOUR times, during two days.
McCain probabaly would have continued to “misspeak” forever, if Uncle Joe had not whispered in his ear that his dumb claim was false.
That’s not a “misspeak”. That’s being flat-out wrong.
McCain’s false claim was about a simple, basic, important, and obvious “foreign policy” fact.
Wow Vaughn, we’re neighbors. I’m on Main, just South of Douglas. I heard sirens but they are so common down here that I really don’t pay attention anymore.
TDT, I know, and generally, I wouldn’t have paid all that much attention to them. It was just the number of them that got my ears, so to speak, wondering just what was going on.
Although the total number of abortions committed annually in America has decreased somewhat in recent years, the number of black babies killed in abortion mills is increasing, largely because of the targeting of the black race by Planned Parenthood’s racist abortionist quacks. In 2005, black mothers committed 683,294 abortions, which was 56% of legalized infanticides in the USofA, though blacks are less than 13% of the population. From 2000 to 2005, the total number of dead black babies in American abortion mills rose by 153,040. Nearly half of all black babies die in abortion mills.
More to come: long-term devastating effects on future births to black women who bear the physical scars of abortion without being rendered sterile, seen now in appalling increases in premature births, cerebral palsy in infants, and infant mortality rates during the first year of life.
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Former Mississippi and Alabama abortionist quack Malachy DeHenre has received the maximum jail sentence of 20 years for killing his wife. In January, DeHenre, who has lost his medical license in three states over botched abortions and raping his abortion mill victims, was found guilty by a grand jury of shooting his wife in the head 10 years ago.
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Pro-abortion Ohio Governor Ted Strickland, in the face of a veto override vote, has signed a pro-life informed consent bill that helps give women information about their unborn child they don’t normally receive from an abortion mill. It requires the abortionist quack to give mothers considering an abortion an opportunity to view an ultrasound of the baby before mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading the infant. The new law takes effect in 90 days, and if enforced, will cause a noticeable decline in Ohio abortions, and in abortion mill profits.
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“It is to Barack Obama’s credit that, as an Illinois state senator, he voted against BAIPA twice, and then, as chairman of the Health and Human Services Committee in 2003, prevented it from advancing to the floor.”
. . . pro-abortion activist Dana Goldstein, writing on the RH Reality Check blog, praising Obama’s opposition to the state Born Alive Infants Protection Act, lest babies born alive during abortions get any medical care, deserving in their mind only to be tossed aside to conveniently die alone and untouched within a few minutes or hours
:: leaves and Chas shows up immediately.
Huh.
Obama’s Abortion positions. He voted FOR Partial Birth Abortions! Sick man.
http://www.issues2000.org/Barack_Obama.htm
Rated 100% by NARAL on pro-choice votes in 2005, 2006 & 2007. (Jan 2008)
Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)
Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)
Constitution is a living document; no strict constructionism. (Oct 2006)
Protect a woman’s right to choose. (May 2004)
Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
Carville leaves, and next post is from Max… Hmmmm….
For anyone interested, John Hagee (McCain’s Evangelisdt Endorser) has his show on tonite, on TBN(Trinity Broadcast Network) at 8 p.m. CDT.
I have no problem with pregnant women receiving ultrasounds. I have no problem with pro-life individuals counseling them, provided no screaming, hatred or prurient hysteria enters the picture.
I can be coy; I can lie; or I can tell the truth: The right-to-lifers in Hays during the 1970s didn’t make any inroads in my desperation so long ago. It’s rather icky enough to hear teeming filth from someone one is love with (my impregnator); the cries of the post-menopausal and hermaphroditic turned me right off.
Do I wish I could go back in time and radically change the situation? The answer to that is an emphatic “yes.” But I’m not the same person I was so many years ago.
Everyone - on both sides of this issue - needs to eschew the vitriol. I don’t always succeed. I’ve tried of late. But when some 62-year-old weirdo from the South tells me that 1) Not only was I the guiltier party; but 2) my rapist/impregnator bears absolutely no responsibility for my abortion….
I sort of lose it. And I’m really not ashamed of it. I let him have it - and I shut him up. It was quite something to see.
It’s not a happy situation to realize the extent of one’s own wasted time - and the import of this. That’s probably one reason I can’t stomach the idea of clamoring for Dr. Tiller’s skull - or counting the days until he descends into Hades.
There’s too much regret, unhappiness, chagrin and pain to go around. But then, I’m old-fashioned, so……………..
Songbird, you sound like a good candidate for membership in NARAL… Ever look at them??
http://www.naral.org/
Wow! was 70 today, but in 1956 it was 89 F on the same day!
Global (insert word of choice here)
Wow. As we prepare to go to the Olympics in China, we ought to ask this:
“Why Do Palestinians Get Much More Attention than Tibetans?”
An exerpt:
“Consider the facts: Tibet, at least 1,400 years old, is one of the world’s oldest nations, has its own language, its own religion and even its own ethnicity. Over 1 million of its people have been killed by the Chinese, its culture has been systematically obliterated, 6,000 of its 6,200 monasteries have been looted and destroyed, and most of its monks have been tortured, murdered or exiled.
“Palestinians have none of these characteristics. There has never been a Palestinian country, never been a Palestinian language, never been a Palestinian ethnicity, never been a Palestinian religion in any way distinct from Islam elsewhere. Indeed, “Palestinian” had always meant any individual living in the geographic area called Palestine. For most of the first half of the 20th century, “Palestinian” and “Palestine” almost always referred to the Jews of Palestine. The United Jewish Appeal, the worldwide Jewish charity that provided the nascent Jewish state with much of its money, was actually known as the United Palestine Appeal. Compared to Tibetans, few Palestinians have been killed, its culture has not been destroyed nor its mosques looted or plundered, and Palestinians have received billions of dollars from the international community. Unlike the dying Tibetan nation, there are far more Palestinians today than when Israel was created.”
Read it for yourself:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/why_do_palestinians_get_much_m.html
And the bulls1t continues.
“Missouri GOP Playing Machine Politics with Ron Paul Delegates
ARLINGTON, Va.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–The Ron Paul campaign has been receiving reports that Missouri GOP rules have been violated in the set-up and execution of several county Republican caucuses. Ron Paul supporters in Missouri have been attending their county caucuses and electing Ron Paul delegates to be seated at the Missouri Republican State Convention. However, there are concerns that many Ron Paul delegates to the Missouri Republican State Convention were disenfranchised and not properly seated.
On Thursday, March 20, campaign field director Debbie Hopper visited the Missouri state GOP headquarters to request a copy of the records needed to obtain the information to file challenges. She was told in front of witnesses that she could not view the report. To obtain the needed information, Ms. Hopper then used the contact information of county chairs listed on the state GOP website. On Saturday, March 22, the webpage containing their contact information had been removed.
The Paul campaign believes that a handful of GOP officials are playing machine politics and breaking their own rules to disenfranchise Paul supporters.
“The Republican party is in trouble and needs more participants in 2008, not less,” said campaign manager Lew Moore. “It makes no sense for Missouri party leaders to exclude and marginalize the new activists they badly need to work at every level this fall.”
Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul’s supporters have been highly successful in several Missouri counties. In St. Charles County (suburb of St. Louis), Paul supporters filled 241 of the 274 country Republican delegate slots. In Jackson County (Kansas City), Paul supporters filled 162 of 187 delegate slots. And in Greene County (Springfield), Paul supporters filled 72 of 112 delegate slots. ”
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080325006318&newsLang=en
Chas.
Posted March 25, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
http://www.naral.org/
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Get your Christian abortions here!
We kill and forgive, in that order.
You know GMC, that question about Tibet is one heck of a good question.
And there are many other nations of the world that are forgotten.
I know someone who is originally from Kenya. He was in the middle of the fighting that broke out there during the elections. Over 6,000 killed, but little attention was given to this by the American press.
Here’s a country, having free Democratic elections with multiple political parties for the first time, battling for Freedom, and the press ignores it.
The fight for Freedom has no value to the Liberal Press today.
The Liberal Socialist Democrats rarely dare utter the word “Freedom” today. Freedom isn’t on their agenda.
Oh BTW, this man from Kenya that I know, was able to get back to the US (he’s now a US citizen) only because he knew someone who was in the military who had a gun. This man was able to provide an escort to the airport.
Guns are banned in Kenya. Only those in the military and outlaws in gangs have guns. Kenya borders Somalia - a country without rules without laws. Somalia is complete anarchy since Clinton surrendered there in the 90’s. Somalia is where gangs in Kenya get supplied with illegal guns.
Roadblocks were set up by gangs, and if you were from the wrong tribe, you did not get through - unless you were armed and could convince them to allow you the freedom to pass.
Just something to think about.
Hey Phillip Brownlee!!!!
Isn’t it about time to post the 3/26 OPEN THREAD,
to keep us all totally confused?????????????
The liberal college professor asked the young immigrant student why he was so restless. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow the country’s government and install a new communist government.
In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked, “Do you know how to catch wild pigs?”
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said this was no joke. “You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a Fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.
Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.”
The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. While we continually lose our freedoms - just A little at a time.
One should always remember “There is no such thing as a free Lunch!” Also, “You can never hire someone to provide a service for you Cheaper than you can do it yourself.
Also, if you see that all of this wonderful government “help” is a problem confronting the future of our republic in America, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life then you will probably delete this email, but God help you when the gate slams shut!
Let’s keep things real and down to earth… I ask myself these things every day
1. What could I do to further the agenda of Ron Paul or his candidates?
2. What did I do today to help the cause?
3. What could I do to bring people together…(Divided we fall)
4. What can I do to help the next event furthering the cause
5. What can I do to make sure I do NOT get complacent again??
Ya get no arguement from me that what is happening in Tibet is wrong. As far as I’m concerned, it’s good enough reason to revoke China’s most favored trading status.
Interesting little story ya got there solie.
It could just as easily be applied to capitalism.
Workers show up. The company gives them a marginal existence and makes their health care dependant on keeping their job. Same cage.
Sol, did you read this one?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-325/#comment-319484
Re Holcomb expansion,
‘Kansas Coal Power Proposal a Significant Risk to Ratepayers’
http://www.desmogblog.com/kansas-coal-power-proposal-a-significant-risk-to-ratepayers
Great post at 6:51 Sol.
The Libs will scroll by….
Losing our Freedom incrementally, is something that fewer and fewer Americans can see today.
AmWay, that link in your 6:58 post is to a post that must have been deleted.
Am Way,
I can’t get to the link. can you Cut’n'paste?
Max
Posted March 25, 2008 at 6:23 pm | Permalink
You know GMC, that question about Tibet is one heck of a good question.
And there are many other nations of the world that are forgotten.
I know someone who is originally from Kenya. He was in the middle of the fighting that broke out there during the elections. Over 6,000 killed, but little attention was given to this by the American press.
Here’s a country, having free Democratic elections with multiple political parties for the first time, battling for Freedom, and the press ignores it.
The fight for Freedom has no value to the Liberal Press today.
The Liberal Socialist Democrats rarely dare utter the word “Freedom” today. Freedom isn’t on their agenda.
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Max, is your news being censored where you live?? I followed the Kenyan elections on both CNN AND MSNBC… Not to mention that our denomination sent out an email alert, asking for prayers for the election process in Kenya, and noted the uprisings and killings taking place there… I have a VERY good friend doing medical mission work in the SW part of Kenya, in a big teaching hospital there…
Dont know what News you were watching…
The Bush family has profitted mightily doing business with the Chinese Stalinists.
See Uncle Prescott Bush who built a golf course resort right after the Tienanmen Incident.
It’s been exactly the “leftist liberals” who’ve been screaming about Tibet ever since the 60’s.
BTW, “Frontline” just ran a preview about their next show on “Voodoo Company” in which a GI says, “I don’t like the reason we’re over here, and when are they going to start bringing people home?”
For a moment I mistakenly believed that what he said was true, but then I remembered Hank saying that all the troops support the war, so I knew that the GI who was stationed there was lying . . .
Who are you going to believe? Your own eyes and ears or Hank Price?
I’m sticking with the Hankster!
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Out of curiosity, Max, what freedoms have liberals taken away from you?
The right to drink from “white” drinking fountains?
The right to vote while the darkies can’t?
The right to say that your secretary has “a great ass!” to all your alpha-male pals?
The right to burn leaves in the street?
What, dude?
“Please back up these alleged facts with a link.
“The following tends to dispute your claims:
“http://www.kff.org/uninsured/upload/7613.pdf”
Where’s AmWay when it comes to backing up his falsehoods? Nowhere? Huge surprise there!
Coward and liar, second only to the Paulthecon…
Yes Chas. The Kenyan news was being censored, and still is likely.
The death reports you see online are not nearly as high as Timon (from Kenya) told me. Timon went back home for a month to vote, and to help a family member who was running for a local city council type position.
The good news is that the one who likely won the election was made Prime Minister (2nd Place) while the crooked majority party stayed in power for another 5 years as President. Prime Minister there has much power, not as much as the President, but they control much of the internal affairs.
Everything was portrayed as peaceful and orderly in the news, up to the point where the votes being counted indicated the current President would be defeated. That’s when the cheating of vote counting began, followed by violence.