The voters of Kansas may seem to have short memories, but not so short that they won’t remember come November, and they will have many, many reminders of who votes against tightening up and enforcing our illegal immigration laws. There are a lot of very sincere and dedicated people watching this subject and are not going to just go away.
Preserving and Protecting OUR Borders
Once Kansas passes one or more of the proposed anti-illegal immigration laws, such as Senate Bill 458, and actually enforces them, those choosing to come here illegally will be voluntarily choosing to subject themselves to the hardships they consequently encounter. I hope most are smart enough to stay home and work to make their own country a better place to live, or go through the legal process of immigration.
One of the foundational aspect of the fiduciary responsibilities of government, and your responsibility as a Kansas Legislator, is the protection of the citizen and our economies through the passage of law. Neither the Federal government or the State of Kansas is presently fulfilling their respective responsibilities with regard to the invasion of illegal aliens. What laws we have covering illegal immigration are being to large extent ignored and this causes a disrespect for the law in general which can spread to other areas besides just immigration.
Those lining up against laws protecting our state from illegal invasion are doing so out of economic self-interest. They want cheap labor, much of which is off the books — no taxes, no unemployment, no workers’ compensation, etc. –while the taxpaying citizen is paying for their illegal workers’ education, health care, criminal justice costs, etc. This is prostituting the assets of the state of Kansas and its citizens and robbing the state of needed tax revenue. Oklahoma’s House Bill 1804 and Arizona’s House Bill 2779 have done an excellent job in this respect. Arizona’s bill was recently tested in the courts and found to be fully legal.
I’m sure Econ 1 would agree that Bail out of mortgage borrower=Moral Hazard!
Bail out of Mortgage holder= The Moral thing to do!
If the little borrower could go to the fed window, maybe there would be no crisis.
‘New’ Ireland’s changes go more than skin-deep
Country long known as a land of emigrants is transformed by migrants
PORTLAOISE, Ireland - As revelers worldwide celebrate St. Patrick’s Day with a pint of Guinness, dyed-green milk or visions of red-bearded leprechauns, it’s a good bet that few of them will have Rotimi Adebari in mind.
But, for those seeking an authentic vision of today’s Ireland, perhaps they should.
The election last year of Nigerian-born Adebari as mayor of Portlaoise is the most prominent manifestation of the changes sweeping this island, which is rapidly evolving from a land of emigration into one of immigration, where at least 1 in 10 people is foreign-born.
AmWay, My representative has let me know in NO uncertain language that unless I agree with him he isn’t interested in hearing from me and in fact I waste his time.
His name is Jason Watkins and he has his very own ideas about what “representation” means. He has made great contact with big business interests and has sold his votes to the highest bidders.
I have a difficult time digesting vegetables. I’ll belch cucumber for over a week after just a couple chips. So I very rarely eat any veggies.
It’s alimentary, my dear Watson.
lindaink, deal with your rep in a private manner. Whatever revenge you think spreading his name all over the place will accomplish might not feel so good if he decided to do the same thing to you.
Obama communications director Robert Gibbs called on Clinton to release full post-White House tax returns; disclose all congressional “earmarks,” or pet projects she had inserted into spending bills; and to release all documents pertaining to activities to the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Library, including a list of donors.
“What is lurking in those documents?” Gibbs asked as the two campaigns had dueling phone conference calls with reporters. “There are gaps that need to be filled,” said senior Obama strategist David Axelrod.
Clinton Library Builder’s CFO Disappears Amid Audit
Sunday, March 16, 2008
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — John Glasgow had a healthy salary, with an opportunity to pick up stock in the construction company where he worked. He was the kind of guy who paid back a $500 bonus he got for completing an anti-smoking program because he started to light up again.
But now Glasgow has been missing since Jan. 28, with his car found abandoned the next day, and family and police say it’s impossible to tell whether he killed himself, was abducted or left to start a new life elsewhere.
How much money will the CEO and senior managers of Bears Stearn be rewarded for tanking the company? I’m betting the total will exceed the amount Morgan Stanley paid for it —- ahhhhhh capitalisms finest hour
“‘If we have a primary means of identifying people before they offend, then in the long-term the benefits of targeting younger people are extremely large,’ said Pugh. ‘You could argue the younger the better. Criminologists say some people will grow out of crime; others won’t. We have to find who are possibly going to be the biggest threat to society.’”
Oy.
But how do we avoid stigmatizing those budding miscreants? Why, DNA sample them all, of course. After all, it’s “for the children.” Why, if you don’t plan on your newly-born infant doing anything wrong, what have you got to hide . . .
And Europeon-style “democracy” is what some here advocate for this country. This is the result of a nation newly wracked with violent crime, ready to try anything.
And much of the new crime wave follows directly on the heels of Britian’s policy barring the private ownership of firearms. Is there a lesson here?
From this side of the pond, there’s this, as we adopt the British example:
The red-light cameras aren’t paying for themselves, so they’re being shut down. I thought these were all about safety? Hmmmmm? I guess when dollars are lacking, safety takes a back seat . . .
BTW: In Britian, they call them Gatsos - and here is what some Britons do to them.
GMC, kinda looked over your links. I’m somewhat ambivalent about traffic cameras–hate the idea, but figure it doesn’t effect me. I just can’t help feeling that it’s somewhat stupid to avoid the cost of a moving violation fine by paying more taxes for replacement.
If we monitor every car journey, that might lead us to people who are stopping at MickeyD’s and eating unhealthy food. These people can be excluded from the socialized medicine plans.
We could also detect “joy riders”, who are wasting gas. Maybe make them pay some carbon taxes..
If we suspect people are driving to democrat or republican party offices, fund raisers, or party functions, we could then embark on even more investigations using electronic survellance of credit card purchases, telephones, and computers.
AmWay, I kinda feel like you toward the DNA sampling. Y’know insurance companies are going to access the data, determine your markers, collect your premiums, and about the time those markers kick in and you begin getting ill, the insurance will drop you like a red-hot stone.
I don’t mean to beat this topic into the ground, but……
This evening is March 17 - it’s the season premiere of “Dancing With the Stars” - and this aged antique (is that redundant?) can’t wait.
I just want to ask everyone again: Please vote to keep Adam Carolla on the show. This is not an unreasonable request: Marie Osmond was kept on the show long after her non-existent dancing abilities should have compelled her communing with the ghost of Brigham Young.
Last but not least, Mr. Carolla introduced something wonderful back in the mid-1990’s. Something unheard-of. Something groundbreaking. It was called “The Adam Carolla Genitalia Collection Society.” It was formed for people just like my icky-poo ex: dudes who keep impregnating and impregnating and behaving fouly and getting away with it - time and time and time again. Allow me to quote the Funnyman thusly:
“Take a look at this jacka$$: He knocks up here - he knocks up there - he knocks up everywhere! And we’re left taking care of this guy’s mess! And I’m (expletive deleted but treasured) sick of it!”
The Very First Man has a lovely wife named Lynette - and two twin babies. In 1997, Adam joyfully attested that he loved Lynette for many things - not the least of which was her niceness and innate goodness. He had dated his fair share of skanky chicks, he said - and for once he had found a jewel. “I’m very, very happy,” the lovable comic said.
And his tallest devotee is happy for him in turn.
Oh, I just can’t WAIT to see him tonight! MTV took Loveline off the air nearly a decade ago - and Wichita is a helluva long way from KROQ in L.A. - so I can’t listen to Adam all that much any longer.
But I’ll always love him. ‘Cause he’s just so darned lovable.
lindaink, deal with your rep in a private manner. Whatever revenge you think spreading his name all over the place will accomplish might not feel so good if he decided to do the same thing to you.
Do unto others…….
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Komrade,
Jason Watkins is in a public office and asked to be representative for the entire 105 District. This isn’t a private matter. He asked to work for me as a resident of that district he wants to represent. He makes decisions about how tax monies will be spent. That includes MY money! I’m not his employee, he should be mine and others who live in the 105 District.
You deal with your public elected officials privately if you like. I deal with public people in public ways.
I hadn’t done the MySpace thing suggested, but now you’ve motivated me to do just exactly that! The emails he sent (and I saved) came from a public account that our tax money pays for!
Go for it Linda. You might also consider writing a letter to the editor, so others can be informed of
your public servant who doesn’t serve. As long as you stick to facts - you can’t go wrong.
What happened to capitalism, when the govt. can mark down your share value by 90% and sell it to a receiver? One large investor lost over a bil. dollars due to the sell, believe he bought in last yr.
Wonder how many of the Bear Stearns employees are jumping out of their office window? They held 30% of the co. stock, and now many face losing their job on top of that.
Doubt the CEO will have to jump, no doubt he has a Golden Parachute, an negotiated hard for it over the weekend.
I wonder if those cameras on stop lights cut down
on people running red lights? They may not be paying for themselves in tickets issued, but I wonder if they still discourage lawbreakers.
It might just be me, but I see more and more cars
running the red. If is now critically important to
look both ways, even when you have the light. Ouch.
“If George W. Bush had read The Pet Goat to his Economic Club of New York audience on Friday, his speech would have been no less infantile. If the first 9/11 was caused by a massive failure of intelligence about terrorism, the second 9/11 — the slow-motion collapse of the American, and maybe the global, economy — has been caused by a catastrophic failure of intelligence about Wall Street rapacity. If the now five-year-old Iraq war was the inevitable, tragic consequence of the neoconservatives’ Project for the New American Century, then the subprime mortgage quagmire, the Bear Stearns bailout, and the foreclosure fiasco are the foreordained outcome of the Republican ideology which holds that regulation of corporate financial behavior is the domestic equivalent of Islamofascism.”
Most people are smart enough to not believe whatever “news source” they encounter, You, not so much.
Newsmax also spread the story of Bill raping his wife to impregnate Hillary, that Hillary was a lesbian, that Bill Clinton repeatedly says the N-word, etc etc.
I wish I had purchased the World News Weekly that had the “photograph of a 70-something Elvis living with a 70-sonething Marilyn Monroe in a trailer park someplace like Muncie, Indiana.
Or the one that showed us Hillary’s alien space love child.
You’ve gotta wonder what editorial meetings were like at World News Daily. I mean, did any stories get shot down?
MonkeyHawk Posted March 17, 2008 at 12:13 pm |
“This will stun you “Boxlock,” but your NewsMax story is false:”
NewsMax:
“The church holds services three times every Sunday at 7:30 and 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Central time. While both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami,…
Contrary to Senator Barack Obama’s claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.
The Senator’s office declined to comment.”
I can believe the publication far more readily than a small time nitwit poster on this blog.
“In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama camapaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.
“Reports circulated over the weekend that Obama had attended the fiery sermon that day by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. But a copy of Obama’s schedule viewed by FOX News as well as video of Obama speaking appear to place him in Miami that day at a convention of the National Council of La Raza.”
Don’t you love farce,
My fault I fear
I thought that you’d want what I want,
Sorry my dear
But where are the clones
There ought to be clones
Quick send in the clones
What is a “”Legal Alien”"???? I keep hearing Illegal Alien. All those who are not Indian are Illegal Aliens because their ancestors came from everywhere except here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist. west.herb@yahoo.com
Herb, sorry to burst your bubble, but what you call Indian isn’t really native. Adctually, recent findings (Kennewick man, for one) suggest that at least some early americans were european. And other evidence supports that africans preceded the amerind, at least in South america.
Autumn Kersey, vice president of development and marketing for Planned Parenthood of Idaho, is the one who in July said “understandable” in accepting a phoned-in donation from an actor working for the UCLA magazine “The Advocate” pretending to have the philanthropic incentive of “the less black kids out there, the better.”
This is not a fundraising employee who would be unaware of Planned Parenthood’s principles and practices, or acting contrary to them. Planned Parenthood employees responded the same way to the ruse in all 6 other states as well. Planned Parenthood has deliberately and ruthlessly targeted the black race for population reduction since its inception.
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Pro-abortion Democratic candidates Obamanation and Hog Futures Hillary joined a majority of the U.S. Senate Thursday night in rejecting 52-46 an amendment that would have offered financial support to poor pregnant women and their unborn children, as part of SCHIP, offering alternatives to mothers who contract the killing of their children in abortion mills because of financial problems. Instead, the Senate, with plenty of baby-hating RINO votes, passed the Boxer amendment, which includes taxpayer-funded abortion.
Is there a more abject poverty than that which demands the killing of your children for abatement?
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South Dakota is the 12th state to enact an abortion-ultrasound law, and Ohio could soon be next. Enforcing informed consent is reducing the number of abortions and abortion mill profits nationwide, and must be kept a high priority for the Kansas legislature and criminal justice system, corrupted even though they are by the abortion industry.
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The national organization in England for psychiatrists, the Royal College of Psychiatrists, says women should be told that abortions can cause mental health problems. The organization says abortion mills should tell women that abortions present numerous mental health risks such as depression, before committing an abortion.
Well, Duhhh!
90% of Britain’s annual 200,000 abortions are, at least in part, for invalid mental health grounds. Abortion CAUSES mental health problems in mothers and fathers, but eliminates none. Furthermore, carrying a pregnancy to completion and birth has been shown in general to promote the longer and healthier life of the mother.
Immigrants flooded the borders; national language was displaced; under-funded military stretched across the world; rampant sexual immorality; unwanted babies left to die alone; city centers abandoned; unbearable taxes, burgeoning national debt, government jobs and welfare rolls.
It was a time of moral, spiritual, and political decay. He was enslaved as a boy and taken from the great empire in which he lived, to herd pigs. He lived a harsh existence at that time, in which he found comfort only in his Creator. Later he returned to his adopted country, founded 300 churches, and imposed his morality on a violent, pagan people that would eventually re-evangelize Europe.
He was Patrick, born in the year 389, died on March 17, 461; a Bishop of Ireland.
“Immigrants flooded the borders; national language was displaced; what had been a wonderful civilization was destroyed by the unwashed hordes crossing the waters. The original wetbacks brought with them desease, filth, and their strange violent religions.”
MonkeyHawk Posted March 17, 2008 at 12:58 pm |
“William Kristol in today’s NY Times –”
Ha, the NY Times, you gota be kidding. They get it wrong most the time. I trust NewsMax and an eye witness considerably more. The Times is just a left-wing rag.
What is it about State Banks in Kansas that makes them think that they do not have to report balances and accrued earnings to their customers on a regular basis or to describe fully their method for applying accrued earnings to a customer’s account?
It seems as if people who use State Banks in Kansas are not concerned about their assets. Why? Too much? Too little? If they were concerned, the Banks would certainly change their tactics about reporting. So what gives?
State Banks in Kansas now seem to take it as an imposition to put forth the effort to keep their customers informed.
Is it laziness? Or, could it be that the limits to reporting are for the purposes of obfuscating matters such that the Banks can put their proverbial thumbs on the scale when they compute earnings for the customer? This would be funny if it were not bordering on the truth.
“He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”
— The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., 1958
Somewhat of an irony, the quote from MLK Jr. and Obama’s 20+ year lack of protesting against the Reverend Wright Jr….don’t you think.
Obama says he’s attended Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr racist church services for 20+ years and never…until now when he’s called on it, disavows the racist preacher. Has him officiate his wedding and baptize his kids. His actions speak louder than his words now.
Whether he was at one particular services or not is of no consequence…but I assume he was from the eye witnesses just the same.
“The church holds services three times every Sunday at 7:30 and 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Central time. While both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami,”
“Mr. Davis said Secret Service were also present in the church during Senator Obama’s attendance”
Should be easy enough to verify if Secret Service was there.
Heckler, there are many site repeating the info below.
“In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama campaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.”
Heckler, you can’t reason with the profoundly ignorant. You know that. You and everyone else will understand, but Monkey, Chas, and possibly Hud, are simply unable….to simple themselves to ever get it.
WILLIAM KRISTOL, from the NY Times;
Published: March 17, 2008
“In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama campaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.”
Notice that Kristol is simply saying that the ‘Obama camp’ refuted the claim by someone else, Ronald Kessler in this case, and nothing more. Kristol simply ‘cited’ a report by Kessler that Kristol later retracts having sited. BUT the person originally making the report is NOT retracting it at all. Those idiots above are using two different mens statements as if they are the same.
The above quote was from William Kristol from the New York Times, a left wing rag about to go broke. It is NOT from the pen of Ronald Kessler, the journalist who has written about Wright’s ministry, and “claims that Obama was in fact in the pews at Trinity last July 22. That’s when Wright blamed the “arrogance” of the “United States of White America” for much of the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks. In any case, given the apparent frequency of such statements in Wright’s preaching and their centrality to his world view, the pretense that over all these years Obama had no idea that Wright was saying such things is hard to sustain.”
“Ha, the NY Times, you gota be kidding. They get it wrong most the time. I trust NewsMax and an eye witness considerably more. The Times is just a left-wing rag.”
Jesus Christ, you really like displaying your ignorance for all to see, eh Boxlock?
Op-Ed Columnist
Generation Obama? Perhaps Not.
New York Times
By WILLIAM KRISTOL
Published: March 17, 2008
In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama campaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.
That was printed in the NY Times though, not the Weekly Standard and was not written by Kessler.
What was retracted was the column by KRISTOL citing Kessler. The comments by Ronald Kessler were NOT retracted by Kessler.
You’ve got one columnist siting another, and when the Obama camp claims differently, as if anybody can believe them anyway, the first columnist retracts what he wrote only in citing the second. That doesn’t have anything to do with the second columnists claims which still stand.
See what I said Heckler…they are dumb as posts.
UMMMMM, ghotiphase???? Where are the Black Reservations or the European Reservations??? We have Navaho, Cherokee, Blackfoot, Apache, Potawatomie, Kickapoo, WhiteCloud, Sac/Fox, Reservations, etc. I dont remember ever having seen Blacks or Europeans calling Cowboys “Pale Face” in the Westerns. Blazzing Saddles had a Black Sheriff. John Wayne did not circle the wagons around Blacks and Europeans. He did not worry about Blacks and Europeans scalping him. The Europeans that did migrate here came from Canada are are Artisian. If they cam by water they are Arsian. Columbus did not have Thanks Giving with the Blacks. He had them as slaves on his ship. Blacks dont use animal names. Blacks dont use peace pipes. Blacks dont have squaws, they have “Hoes or Hotties”. Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com
Well, if Kristol retracts what he said, that he got from Kessler, that says a whole lot about what Kristol thinks of Kessler’s accuracy!!
Hey, why dont you just Google Obama/Campaign/Miami/July,2007, and see what you get?? That should just about solve the problem… at least for THAT sermon…. as for others, like the one preached in December, it should be in the archives section of the Trinity Church web site!!
“…as for others, like the one preached in December, it should be in the archives section of the Trinity Church web site!!”
Here in lies a problem, Chas. I did not check it but the web site, at least this morning, reportedly the web site has changed somewhat today, said all sermons were archived. Could Obama have played back any sermons he missed; could any of his staff have checked the web site; for some reason it is hard to believe no one knew anything.
Maybe he knew nothing, who am I to say. But I do have to ask myself if I want this man who nothing for 20 years to be President.
None the less, Kristol’s ‘retraction’ consisted of nothing more than one author citing another, and when when the Obama camp refutes Obama’s presents at the church, and what else could they do after all, KRISTOL retracts his citation of Kessler. After all what could he do, Kristol wasn’t there, only Kessler was, and he never retracted anything.
Now that that’s hopefully cleared up the fact remains…”In any case, given the apparent frequency of such statements in Wright’s preaching and their centrality to his world view, the pretense that over all these years Obama had no idea that Wright was saying such things is hard to sustain.”
Nobody can be that asleep week on week, year after year for 20+ years. Obama knew and knows exactly what the Reverend Wright is all about, that being black racism and anti-Americanism. And only now, when confronted, does Obama try to distance himself, but not before.
THIS is what is gonna happen with Obama. And all because of the media love affair with him.
He’s probably a minefield of problems. But nobody went looking. Now that it is so late in the nomination process, he’s gonna be even more and more unelectable.
I still contend it is wonderful to have two strong candidates for the Democratic nomination. We the voters win from the competition. Does the Republican Party candidate tell you why he should be elected, do his supporters tell you why he should be voted for? Nope. All you hear is why you shouldn’t vote for either of the possible Democratic candidates.
Oh, and be afraid, very afraid.
If I die tomorrow I will not spend today worrying about this maybe being my last day. I am soooo finished withe the politics of fear! What time I have won’t be spent being afraid!
Amen, Linda!! And JR, I have to agree that I dont find a lot of what Dr. Wright says highly offensive, IF taken in context, not in sound bytes!! HUD, I have never had any congregants request a tape of a sermon, for about the past 5 - 6 years… When I was in Sioux City, we had a weekly TV broadcast, on local access cable TV!!!
But oher than that, not much of a market for sermons…
It was also pointed out that Trinity UCC has 3 services per Sunday… Early morning… later morning, and Sunday evening… Often times in LARGE congregations, the Senior Minister only preaches ONE of those services!! Rarely does the Senior Minister preach all three services…
The only “new” thing they can harp on about Senator Clinton is that she hasn’t released her tax statements. And she will. Everything else has been charged and debunked overandoverandover. Those who will always believe what they choose, will always believe what they choose. They certainly won’t let facts or truth get in the way. They weren’t going to vote for a Democratic Party nominee anyway.
Chas, you are so full of it…unbelievable.
Most certainly most churches with multiple services are preached by the same pastor. After all the pastor writes the message, or at least prepares it according to the church calendar. A church isn’t going to have multiple pastors all writing different messages on the same Sunday. I’ve never been to a church where the sermons were given by different pastors.
And if you’ve never had recordings of your sermons requested, and I quote, “HUD, I have never had any congregants request a tape of a sermon, for about the past 5 - 6 years”, I’m sincerely sorry to say that says more about how well your sermons are received than it does about the congregants.
All of these folks that are bitching about Obama wouldn’t be voting for him even if he was the second coming of Washington/Lincoln/FDR rolled into one, so the debate is pointless.
Simple - if you don’t like Obama, don’t vote for him.
Box, most people do their best not to fall asleep no matter who is preaching, they certainly don’t want a tape of sermons. I have NEVER ever, even in my fundy freaky church that I grew up in, heard of someone requesting a tape of a sermon.
Why does it seem to me that Carrie’s mothers house is kindof like yours?
“Bush III isn’t running, so that’s pointless also.”
Bush III is John S. McCain, a.k.a., John W McBush, a Republican that is running on the platform of continuing the policies of George W Bush, a.k.a., Bush II.
And yes, every Republican is running on the coattails of George WMD Bush.
Boxer — I have been Sr. Pastor with a staff… When we had 3 services per week, I rarely preached alll 3 of them… It is called “Scheduling” — not a problem at all!!
The Associates on staff know when they are preaching… And they are assigned their weeks well in advance… As for preparation, most sermons are not READ from a script…. Sorry if that has been your experience…
As for telling ME I dont know what I am talking about, that is about the stupidest thing you have said so far!!
Again, it is not a rare thing for the Sr. Pastor to preach at the “Main” service, and maybe an evening service… while Associates preach at others…. The POINT IS…. Who is to say which one of three services Dr. Wright was even preaching on July 22… And again, the sermons from that day should be readily available in the Sermon Archives section at http://www.tucc.org….
HUD — Walter Rauschenbusch… “The Social Gospel” One of the landmark works in that field… VERY good read!!
I spent the evening toe to toe with econ the other day defending Obama the best I could.
If you think the supporters of Senator Clinton are behind this or happy about it, you are very mistaken.
There is a price to pay for being a media idol. They build people up so they can tear them down. It’s all about the story. Now we are beginning to see Obama’s story.
Political_mama;
“Box, most people do their best not to fall asleep no matter who is preaching, they certainly don’t want a tape of sermons.”
Recordings of our pastors messages are frequently ask for by those that are confined, either at home, or hospitalized, in a nursing homes or whatever. People physically unable to come to the service.
P_m maybe you would like to come to my church, I’m serious, you won’t fall asleep. It’s great.
I understand the film Carrie and the house, but I’m tired or slow right now, how does that pertain to mine?
WS, McCain is nothing like Bush. Not that I am supporting either in this discussion but they are both way short of what I would like to see in a choice.
“I’ve never been to a church where the sermons were given by different pastors.”
Hmmmm… guess you havent hung out around many Catholic Parishes with multiple staff, or Lutheran, or Episcopal parishes with large membership, and multiple staff… Happens quite frequently…. Sorry your experience seems to be so limited!!
ALSO, Boxer…. You will please note carefully that I said I havent had requests or tapes in the past 5 - 6 years…. I ALSO noted that in the time I was in Sioux City, our parish was on local access TV every week… Thus, Sunday services were available to the entire community each week… Back in my younger years, we didnt have TAPING technology readily available… My secretaries in those days did a LOT of typing on Mondays and Tuesdays, FROM cassette tapes… to make PRINTED copies available for those who wanted them…
See, many Pastors dont use manuscripts…. And the only way to get a printed copy, is to have a tape transcribed to print medium….
“If I die tomorrow I will not spend today worrying about this maybe being my last day. I am soooo finished with the politics of fear! What time I have won’t be spent being afraid!”
And because of my agreement with you, I will not contribute any more of my money to politicians.
Let me explain. I sent Paul Morrison, plenty of money in 2006. I sent him some in 2007. All for naught.
I sent John Kerry money in 2004 - all for naught. I now send my funds to groups that I think will help me and defend my rights:
ACLU - some funds
Southern Povery Law Center - more funds
I decided to send the SPLC money because they were trying to promote tolerance. They were opposed by the Christian far right because of their promotion of tolerance for gays/lesbians - big surprise there!
Chas,
I didn’t mean to infer that the message was read. They are still ‘written’, at least the context is formed and presented.
Also, I would like to apologize for the my comment about no one requesting copies of your messages.
That wasn’t fair.
I am being honest though now…in the past we have engaged in….ah, discussions we’ll call them, that are less that mature, no down right nasty. You haven’t seemed to me to be particularly filled with a gentle, evangelical or Christian spirit. At least that’s my observation. It would be quite difficult for me to attend your church as I realize I’m in need of some help and look for those that can model.
I went to gatherings supporting Paul, etc. I came to this blog everyday to correct errors perpetrated by his insane oppoents. I believed in the man, though I did not like how he looked at my wife, when we met him. I asked her later, and she thought he might be a horn-dog, too.
I was very disappointed in how his whole campaign, etc. turned out. Paul convinced me, I will never send money to politicians again.
I will send money to the ACLU and the SPLC and similar groups. No more to people running for office. Sorry.
Chas.
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ALSO, Boxer…. You will please note carefully that I said I havent had requests or tapes in the past 5 - 6 years….
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Well, Boxer, In many of the Gospel narratives, you wont find a “gentle Jesus, meek and mild” either… When he calls his enemies “a brood of vipers” When he overturns the tables of the “money changers” at the Temple… because they were short changing honest worshippers…. When he levels his barbed parables at the Pharisees… Not much gentility there… There are a lot of solid punches directed at the keepers of the status quo of His time… Many of us still follow that example…. The Jesus preaching and working for Justice… The Jesus who breaks the LAW of the church by healing a man on the Sabbath… and getting in the FACE of the ruling authorities!! Oh yea, lots of Social Gospel there… and he pulled no punches in doing so….
This is an especially good week to read all of those things again!! Holy Week is a great time for contemplation, and inner study!!
The Chicago church of Barack Obama appears to be adjusting its Web site by relocating a section that outlined black ethics to be taught in homes, churches and schools.
The Web site for the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago had described its congregation as “unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian” but has made changes to the “About Us” section.
The section no longer contains the “Black Value System.” It has been replaced with videotaped testimonials by church members.
Barack Obama is preparing to deliver a major address Tuesday on race, politics and unifying the country after being hounded by questions about his relationship to a pastor whose sermons have been laced with anti-American invective.
In a speech whose religious significance could compare to one given in December by former GOP presidential hopeful and Mormon Mitt Romney, Obama may be forced to explain the philosophy of the 8,000-strong Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, where the Democratic presidential candidate has been a congregant for 20 years.
Actually, Max, unfortunately the Sioux City services were not archived by the local access transmitter…. And the tapes, owned by the congregation, were simply used again the following week… So, they are Pooof Gone!!
Anybody wonder how in the world Limbaugh managed to buy the performance rights for the music to “Barack the Magic Negro” from Peter, Paul, and Mary??? Maybe El-Rushbo is in violation of copyright laws???
And with his constant ranting at Republicans to cross over and vote for Hillary in the Democrat primaries… Isnt that really close to borderline Election Fraud?? Since Limbaugh is doing it across state lines, and he even brags about what he is doing?? I wonder if anybody has looked into the legality of what he is doing?? And not just Rush, but the others who have joined his “countdown to chaos” as he called it this morning… He is intentionally admitting he is attempting to throw the Democrat Party into chaos….
I can’t wait to hear Obama’s great speech. I found this draft in an email sent to me from one of my sources:
1. I slept in church and didn’t pay attention, never heard any bad comments from Rev Wright, if I was there I was sleeping, but I had a dream…..
2. I dreamt about how I can unite this God damned country we live in. (No I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
3. I will unite all of the United KKK States of America. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
4. I know what it’s like to be in a land controlled by rich white people, but obviously I can see both sides, so I understand, and I can help unite all sides. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
5. The government didn’t lie about inventing HIV to kill blacks, they just forgot to tell us about it, but I can unite everyone on this. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
6. America didn’t deserve 911, but we weren’t so innocent either, I mean we were asking for it and I can unite America on this. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
7. And I know Hillary has never been called a “N” word, but I’ll solve that problem too!
8. And Bill was sorta doing things to blacks like he did to Monica, I mean riding hard and all, but I’ll make sure that stops now. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
Well, that’s my last and final comments on this most private matter between me and my preacher man and God, so I won’t be taking any questions.
Who knows how long the Rev. Jeremiah Wright brouhaha will play out, but revelations of Barack Obama’s pastor’s objectionable sermons have apparently eroded public perceptions of Obama, according to a fresh analysis by the Rasmussen Report tracking poll.
With the Wright episode playing out over the past few days, the poll found Obama’s favorable rating nationally had dropped five points to 47% since Thursday, and his unfavorable rating had risen from 44% to 50%. Among white voters, the unfavorable numbers jumped to 54%. The poll also found John McCain leading both Obama and Hillary Clinton in head-to-head national matchups, whereas a week ago they they were essentially tied.
Chas. Posted March 17, 2008 at 10:26 pm |
“Well, Boxer, In many of the Gospel narratives, you wont find a “gentle Jesus, meek and mild” either… ”
No Chas you don’t, but neither do you find a Jesus that is out of control in disagreement and hate. He got them riled up enough to to tortuously kill him but he was always in control and authority.
Since many of the DemLibs fail to read good commentary I thought I’d provide excerpts of an intellectual treat this morning from David Limbaugh.
“We all know that one’s character cannot be separated from his actions, as the latter springs from the former. Voters must satisfy themselves about a candidate’s character since his character will have an impact on their lives.
The racist, anti-American rantings of Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama’s spiritual mentor and pastor of the church Obama attended for 20 years, raise many red flags about Obama’s supposedly best selling point: his unique capability for healing societal divisions.
Considering our deep-seated societal disagreements over cultural and political issues, promises by politicians to end societal divisiveness are dubious enough on their face. But when the promiser’s personal history contradicts his promises, even further scrutiny is required.
Before this story heated up beyond the mainstream media’s ability to suppress it, Obama casually dismissed the pastor’s tirades merely as “controversial” remarks — as if they had some legitimacy and were not outright indefensible but in any event should not be taken too seriously.
We must recognize the double standard that liberals typically apply to immunize themselves from accountability for bigotry. When the remotest connection can be inferred between a conservative and a bigoted supporter, there is always hell to pay. No excuses are permitted. Guilt attaches — not even by so much as true association but by passive receipt of an endorsement from anyone the left believes to have bigoted views.
Liberals, on the other hand, can be overtly racist toward conservative blacks like Condoleezza Rice and Clarence Thomas and earn accolades rather than condemnation. And in Obama’s case, we have more than passive receipt of an endorsement. We have more than guilt by casual association.”
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Always wanted to be first;
The voters of Kansas may seem to have short memories, but not so short that they won’t remember come November, and they will have many, many reminders of who votes against tightening up and enforcing our illegal immigration laws. There are a lot of very sincere and dedicated people watching this subject and are not going to just go away.
Preserving and Protecting OUR Borders
Once Kansas passes one or more of the proposed anti-illegal immigration laws, such as Senate Bill 458, and actually enforces them, those choosing to come here illegally will be voluntarily choosing to subject themselves to the hardships they consequently encounter. I hope most are smart enough to stay home and work to make their own country a better place to live, or go through the legal process of immigration.
One of the foundational aspect of the fiduciary responsibilities of government, and your responsibility as a Kansas Legislator, is the protection of the citizen and our economies through the passage of law. Neither the Federal government or the State of Kansas is presently fulfilling their respective responsibilities with regard to the invasion of illegal aliens. What laws we have covering illegal immigration are being to large extent ignored and this causes a disrespect for the law in general which can spread to other areas besides just immigration.
Those lining up against laws protecting our state from illegal invasion are doing so out of economic self-interest. They want cheap labor, much of which is off the books — no taxes, no unemployment, no workers’ compensation, etc. –while the taxpaying citizen is paying for their illegal workers’ education, health care, criminal justice costs, etc. This is prostituting the assets of the state of Kansas and its citizens and robbing the state of needed tax revenue. Oklahoma’s House Bill 1804 and Arizona’s House Bill 2779 have done an excellent job in this respect. Arizona’s bill was recently tested in the courts and found to be fully legal.
We need to follow suit as soon as possible.
I’m sure Econ 1 would agree that Bail out of mortgage borrower=Moral Hazard!
Bail out of Mortgage holder= The Moral thing to do!
If the little borrower could go to the fed window, maybe there would be no crisis.
Happy St. Patrick’s Day?
‘New’ Ireland’s changes go more than skin-deep
Country long known as a land of emigrants is transformed by migrants
PORTLAOISE, Ireland - As revelers worldwide celebrate St. Patrick’s Day with a pint of Guinness, dyed-green milk or visions of red-bearded leprechauns, it’s a good bet that few of them will have Rotimi Adebari in mind.
But, for those seeking an authentic vision of today’s Ireland, perhaps they should.
The election last year of Nigerian-born Adebari as mayor of Portlaoise is the most prominent manifestation of the changes sweeping this island, which is rapidly evolving from a land of emigration into one of immigration, where at least 1 in 10 people is foreign-born.
cont’d at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23636868/
St Paddy’s Day is a drunk for most.
It should not be a national holiday.
Personally, I enjoy a few pints of green colored
beer (or any color for that matter).
But it’s for fun. Not really honoring anyone.
If they want a national holiday, it should be for the day AFTER, so everyone can recover.
AmWay, do you eat that disgusting potato junk that’s a Paddy Day staple? Don’t even know what it’s called, just turns my stomach.
This is a big week in Topeka.
The legislature will take up health care reform “light” on Tuesday, the House 2009 FY budget on Wednesday and immigration on Thursday.
If any of those issues concern you, now would be a good time to email your representatives.
The wife has corn beef, cabbage, and new potato’s in the crockpot at this writing. It will simmer all day long in beer…….
Should be Mmm Mmm good by tonight!
corn beef, cabbage
THAT’S what it was about thas stuff I didn’t like. My heiritage is full-blood german and I can’t stand kraut.
AmWay, My representative has let me know in NO uncertain language that unless I agree with him he isn’t interested in hearing from me and in fact I waste his time.
His name is Jason Watkins and he has his very own ideas about what “representation” means. He has made great contact with big business interests and has sold his votes to the highest bidders.
Linda, post his missives on a MySpace page. Everyone who googles him will find that.
I saved several of his emails. I should do that! Thanks for the tip.
Bavarian sweet sauerkraut w/caraway from a can is not as strong as the fully fermented German dish.
That, along with diced onions, whole grain brown mustard make a smoked knackwurst an exquisite meal.
I have a difficult time digesting vegetables. I’ll belch cucumber for over a week after just a couple chips. So I very rarely eat any veggies.
It’s alimentary, my dear Watson.
lindaink, deal with your rep in a private manner. Whatever revenge you think spreading his name all over the place will accomplish might not feel so good if he decided to do the same thing to you.
Do unto others…….
Hillary, hiding something? Why never!
Tax records, where are they? They got lost just like the FBI files got lost! Go figure!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/16/obama-team-presses-clinton-on-ethics/
Obama communications director Robert Gibbs called on Clinton to release full post-White House tax returns; disclose all congressional “earmarks,” or pet projects she had inserted into spending bills; and to release all documents pertaining to activities to the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Library, including a list of donors.
“What is lurking in those documents?” Gibbs asked as the two campaigns had dueling phone conference calls with reporters. “There are gaps that need to be filled,” said senior Obama strategist David Axelrod.
Now why would the authorities speculate that Clinon’s Library Builder, John Glasgow, committed suicide?
(Vince Foster, Vince Foster, Vince Foster)
Naw, Hillary has nothing to hide.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,338294,00.html
Clinton Library Builder’s CFO Disappears Amid Audit
Sunday, March 16, 2008
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — John Glasgow had a healthy salary, with an opportunity to pick up stock in the construction company where he worked. He was the kind of guy who paid back a $500 bonus he got for completing an anti-smoking program because he started to light up again.
But now Glasgow has been missing since Jan. 28, with his car found abandoned the next day, and family and police say it’s impossible to tell whether he killed himself, was abducted or left to start a new life elsewhere.
How much money will the CEO and senior managers of Bears Stearn be rewarded for tanking the company? I’m betting the total will exceed the amount Morgan Stanley paid for it —- ahhhhhh capitalisms finest hour
Glasgow, the builder of Clinton’s library who is being audited, disapeared on January 28th!
Just now hitting the news.
Clinton’s sure kept that story buried!
Please help find Glasgow. We need to know the details of his audit scandal to find out how much the Clinton’s were involved in this.
http://www.findjohnglasgow.com/index.shtml
I bet Bill and Hillary are out frantically searching for Glasgow.
Tax records, where are they? They got lost just like the FBI files got lost! Go figure
I bet if they looked under the whitehouse e-mails, they’d find them.
Once again, Max, people living in glass houses shouldn’t get stoned.
If this doesn’t hit your “Oh my God, you’ve got to be kidding” button, nothing will:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/mar/16/youthjustice.children
A sample of enlightened European thinking:
“‘If we have a primary means of identifying people before they offend, then in the long-term the benefits of targeting younger people are extremely large,’ said Pugh. ‘You could argue the younger the better. Criminologists say some people will grow out of crime; others won’t. We have to find who are possibly going to be the biggest threat to society.’”
Oy.
But how do we avoid stigmatizing those budding miscreants? Why, DNA sample them all, of course. After all, it’s “for the children.” Why, if you don’t plan on your newly-born infant doing anything wrong, what have you got to hide . . .
And Europeon-style “democracy” is what some here advocate for this country. This is the result of a nation newly wracked with violent crime, ready to try anything.
And much of the new crime wave follows directly on the heels of Britian’s policy barring the private ownership of firearms. Is there a lesson here?
From this side of the pond, there’s this, as we adopt the British example:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23647272
Ooops.
The red-light cameras aren’t paying for themselves, so they’re being shut down. I thought these were all about safety? Hmmmmm? I guess when dollars are lacking, safety takes a back seat . . .
BTW: In Britian, they call them Gatsos - and here is what some Britons do to them.
http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm
It appears the spirit of Churchill is not entirely dead, thankfully. But the authorities are doing their best to kill it off:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britain-will-be-first-country-to-monitor-every-car-journey-520398.html
Great. Just great. Is this the road (pun intended) we wish to take here?
TX Castle Law debate.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/031708dnmetcastlelaw.37d5252.html
GMC, kinda looked over your links. I’m somewhat ambivalent about traffic cameras–hate the idea, but figure it doesn’t effect me. I just can’t help feeling that it’s somewhat stupid to avoid the cost of a moving violation fine by paying more taxes for replacement.
If we monitor every car journey, that might lead us to people who are stopping at MickeyD’s and eating unhealthy food. These people can be excluded from the socialized medicine plans.
We could also detect “joy riders”, who are wasting gas. Maybe make them pay some carbon taxes..
If we suspect people are driving to democrat or republican party offices, fund raisers, or party functions, we could then embark on even more investigations using electronic survellance of credit card purchases, telephones, and computers.
All in the interest of the socialist state.
AmWay, I kinda feel like you toward the DNA sampling. Y’know insurance companies are going to access the data, determine your markers, collect your premiums, and about the time those markers kick in and you begin getting ill, the insurance will drop you like a red-hot stone.
I don’t mean to beat this topic into the ground, but……
This evening is March 17 - it’s the season premiere of “Dancing With the Stars” - and this aged antique (is that redundant?) can’t wait.
I just want to ask everyone again: Please vote to keep Adam Carolla on the show. This is not an unreasonable request: Marie Osmond was kept on the show long after her non-existent dancing abilities should have compelled her communing with the ghost of Brigham Young.
Last but not least, Mr. Carolla introduced something wonderful back in the mid-1990’s. Something unheard-of. Something groundbreaking. It was called “The Adam Carolla Genitalia Collection Society.” It was formed for people just like my icky-poo ex: dudes who keep impregnating and impregnating and behaving fouly and getting away with it - time and time and time again. Allow me to quote the Funnyman thusly:
“Take a look at this jacka$$: He knocks up here - he knocks up there - he knocks up everywhere! And we’re left taking care of this guy’s mess! And I’m (expletive deleted but treasured) sick of it!”
The Very First Man has a lovely wife named Lynette - and two twin babies. In 1997, Adam joyfully attested that he loved Lynette for many things - not the least of which was her niceness and innate goodness. He had dated his fair share of skanky chicks, he said - and for once he had found a jewel. “I’m very, very happy,” the lovable comic said.
And his tallest devotee is happy for him in turn.
Oh, I just can’t WAIT to see him tonight! MTV took Loveline off the air nearly a decade ago - and Wichita is a helluva long way from KROQ in L.A. - so I can’t listen to Adam all that much any longer.
But I’ll always love him. ‘Cause he’s just so darned lovable.
Komrade Posted March 17, 2008 at 8:55 am
lindaink, deal with your rep in a private manner. Whatever revenge you think spreading his name all over the place will accomplish might not feel so good if he decided to do the same thing to you.
Do unto others…….
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Komrade,
Jason Watkins is in a public office and asked to be representative for the entire 105 District. This isn’t a private matter. He asked to work for me as a resident of that district he wants to represent. He makes decisions about how tax monies will be spent. That includes MY money! I’m not his employee, he should be mine and others who live in the 105 District.
You deal with your public elected officials privately if you like. I deal with public people in public ways.
I hadn’t done the MySpace thing suggested, but now you’ve motivated me to do just exactly that! The emails he sent (and I saved) came from a public account that our tax money pays for!
Go for it Linda. You might also consider writing a letter to the editor, so others can be informed of
your public servant who doesn’t serve. As long as you stick to facts - you can’t go wrong.
GMC70, what you just described is eerily similar to the two movies below.
Crime can be detected in advance, and you can be arrested for what you were going to do.
Reminds me of a No Parking Sign that said:
“Don’t Even Think About Parking Here”. I suppose you could get a parking ticket just for thinking about parking there.
Gattica
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/plotsummary
Minority Report
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/usercomments?start=30
Oh, and let’s not forget George Orwells 1984!
FAMOUS LAST WORDS:
But it can’t happen here….
What happened to capitalism, when the govt. can mark down your share value by 90% and sell it to a receiver? One large investor lost over a bil. dollars due to the sell, believe he bought in last yr.
Wonder how many of the Bear Stearns employees are jumping out of their office window? They held 30% of the co. stock, and now many face losing their job on top of that.
Doubt the CEO will have to jump, no doubt he has a Golden Parachute, an negotiated hard for it over the weekend.
Editors?
Bear Stearns thread please.
Go back to sleep folks, Dubya says the economy is fine.
A clear coat spray over your plates ends tickets done by camera
If I remember a’right, that didn’t get it on mythbusters.
BTW, be a man! if ya scrog the pooch, own up, pay the tick.
I wonder if those cameras on stop lights cut down
on people running red lights? They may not be paying for themselves in tickets issued, but I wonder if they still discourage lawbreakers.
It might just be me, but I see more and more cars
running the red. If is now critically important to
look both ways, even when you have the light. Ouch.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/08/mythbusters-fail-to-foil-the-speedcamera/
“It is” vice “If is”.
was it the eagle I read that they decrease running reds, but increase rear-end collisions?
A good piece on the Bush economy here:
“If George W. Bush had read The Pet Goat to his Economic Club of New York audience on Friday, his speech would have been no less infantile. If the first 9/11 was caused by a massive failure of intelligence about terrorism, the second 9/11 — the slow-motion collapse of the American, and maybe the global, economy — has been caused by a catastrophic failure of intelligence about Wall Street rapacity. If the now five-year-old Iraq war was the inevitable, tragic consequence of the neoconservatives’ Project for the New American Century, then the subprime mortgage quagmire, the Bear Stearns bailout, and the foreclosure fiasco are the foreordained outcome of the Republican ideology which holds that regulation of corporate financial behavior is the domestic equivalent of Islamofascism.”
Read the whole thing here:
http://tinyurl.com/2rx7et
Obama Attended Hate America Sermon
Obama seems to lie.
Link:
http://newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_hat%20e_America_sermon/2008/03/16/80870.html?s=sp&promo_code=474C-1
Boxlock?
Is that a shot-gun term?
And I thank you for bringing out all this right-wing crap about Obama.
By November, it’ll be even more nuthin’ than it is now . . .
BTW: In Britian, they call them Gatsos - and here is what some Britons do to them.
http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm
*****
Hmmm, a prosecuting attorney who celebrates breaking the law.
What other laws should we break, Counsellor?
This will stun you “Boxlock,” but your NewsMax story is false:
Newsmax says:
“In fact, Obama was in attendance at the church when these statements were made on July 22.”
Are we really to believe he went to church this day and then immediately went to an event in Miami to speak at 1:30?
http://www.nclr.org/section/events/conference/about_con...
Most people are smart enough to not believe whatever “news source” they encounter, You, not so much.
Newsmax also spread the story of Bill raping his wife to impregnate Hillary, that Hillary was a lesbian, that Bill Clinton repeatedly says the N-word, etc etc.
Fiction. All fiction.
Traffic cameras and safety.
Intersting read.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/c_d_columns/rear_end_crashes_go_up_after_red_light_cameras_go_in_column
Newsmax.
There’s an unimpeachable source.
Newsmax is the right’s version of World News Weekly. You know, the one that used to have Batboy.
You know, the one that used to have Batboy.
I’ve SEEN him. He lives in my bellfry.
I wish I had purchased the World News Weekly that had the “photograph of a 70-something Elvis living with a 70-sonething Marilyn Monroe in a trailer park someplace like Muncie, Indiana.
Or the one that showed us Hillary’s alien space love child.
You’ve gotta wonder what editorial meetings were like at World News Daily. I mean, did any stories get shot down?
MonkeyHawk Posted March 17, 2008 at 12:13 pm |
“This will stun you “Boxlock,” but your NewsMax story is false:”
NewsMax:
“The church holds services three times every Sunday at 7:30 and 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Central time. While both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami,…
Contrary to Senator Barack Obama’s claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.
The Senator’s office declined to comment.”
I can believe the publication far more readily than a small time nitwit poster on this blog.
William Kristol in today’s NY Times –
“In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama camapaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.
Keep telling the lie, “Boxlock.”
It’s all ya got.
… Senator Barack Obama’s claim that he never heard his pastor …
that pretty much happens to me everytime I get in a church, too.
“Reports circulated over the weekend that Obama had attended the fiery sermon that day by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. But a copy of Obama’s schedule viewed by FOX News as well as video of Obama speaking appear to place him in Miami that day at a convention of the National Council of La Raza.”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/17/report-places-obama-at-controversial-july-07-wright-sermon-official-schedule-places-him-in-miami/
From one racist venue to the next. No worries.
Don’t you love farce,
My fault I fear
I thought that you’d want what I want,
Sorry my dear
But where are the clones
There ought to be clones
Quick send in the clones
boy am I opening up myself for attacks by (mis)quoting Streisand
Would Obama lie? Oh no. The obamination of it all.
Nathan - Hank —– you’re favorite sailor movie is on HBO now —- quick grab your can of Spinach —–
What is a “”Legal Alien”"???? I keep hearing Illegal Alien. All those who are not Indian are Illegal Aliens because their ancestors came from everywhere except here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist. west.herb@yahoo.com
Herb, sorry to burst your bubble, but what you call Indian isn’t really native. Adctually, recent findings (Kennewick man, for one) suggest that at least some early americans were european. And other evidence supports that africans preceded the amerind, at least in South america.
Obama’s final story will be that he never attends church.
Course those video tapes are being reviewed over and over by Clinton’s clan to catch Obama in the act of going to church.
News reports will flood the media when Clinton chooses to release the next wave.
“I did not have sex with that woman!” Sorry, wrong quote.
“I did not go to church and hear that sermon!”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/17/report-places-obama-at-controversial-july-07-wright-sermon-official-schedule-places-him-in-miami/
Autumn Kersey, vice president of development and marketing for Planned Parenthood of Idaho, is the one who in July said “understandable” in accepting a phoned-in donation from an actor working for the UCLA magazine “The Advocate” pretending to have the philanthropic incentive of “the less black kids out there, the better.”
This is not a fundraising employee who would be unaware of Planned Parenthood’s principles and practices, or acting contrary to them. Planned Parenthood employees responded the same way to the ruse in all 6 other states as well. Planned Parenthood has deliberately and ruthlessly targeted the black race for population reduction since its inception.
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Pro-abortion Democratic candidates Obamanation and Hog Futures Hillary joined a majority of the U.S. Senate Thursday night in rejecting 52-46 an amendment that would have offered financial support to poor pregnant women and their unborn children, as part of SCHIP, offering alternatives to mothers who contract the killing of their children in abortion mills because of financial problems. Instead, the Senate, with plenty of baby-hating RINO votes, passed the Boxer amendment, which includes taxpayer-funded abortion.
Is there a more abject poverty than that which demands the killing of your children for abatement?
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South Dakota is the 12th state to enact an abortion-ultrasound law, and Ohio could soon be next. Enforcing informed consent is reducing the number of abortions and abortion mill profits nationwide, and must be kept a high priority for the Kansas legislature and criminal justice system, corrupted even though they are by the abortion industry.
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The national organization in England for psychiatrists, the Royal College of Psychiatrists, says women should be told that abortions can cause mental health problems. The organization says abortion mills should tell women that abortions present numerous mental health risks such as depression, before committing an abortion.
Well, Duhhh!
90% of Britain’s annual 200,000 abortions are, at least in part, for invalid mental health grounds. Abortion CAUSES mental health problems in mothers and fathers, but eliminates none. Furthermore, carrying a pregnancy to completion and birth has been shown in general to promote the longer and healthier life of the mother.
Immigrants flooded the borders; national language was displaced; under-funded military stretched across the world; rampant sexual immorality; unwanted babies left to die alone; city centers abandoned; unbearable taxes, burgeoning national debt, government jobs and welfare rolls.
It was a time of moral, spiritual, and political decay. He was enslaved as a boy and taken from the great empire in which he lived, to herd pigs. He lived a harsh existence at that time, in which he found comfort only in his Creator. Later he returned to his adopted country, founded 300 churches, and imposed his morality on a violent, pagan people that would eventually re-evangelize Europe.
He was Patrick, born in the year 389, died on March 17, 461; a Bishop of Ireland.
Thanks parkay…same shit different day, huh!
Wow.. An Irish Obituary!! :-)
“Immigrants flooded the borders; national language was displaced; what had been a wonderful civilization was destroyed by the unwashed hordes crossing the waters. The original wetbacks brought with them desease, filth, and their strange violent religions.”
My Native American ancestors.
MonkeyHawk Posted March 17, 2008 at 12:58 pm |
“William Kristol in today’s NY Times –”
Ha, the NY Times, you gota be kidding. They get it wrong most the time. I trust NewsMax and an eye witness considerably more. The Times is just a left-wing rag.
What is it about State Banks in Kansas that makes them think that they do not have to report balances and accrued earnings to their customers on a regular basis or to describe fully their method for applying accrued earnings to a customer’s account?
It seems as if people who use State Banks in Kansas are not concerned about their assets. Why? Too much? Too little? If they were concerned, the Banks would certainly change their tactics about reporting. So what gives?
State Banks in Kansas now seem to take it as an imposition to put forth the effort to keep their customers informed.
Is it laziness? Or, could it be that the limits to reporting are for the purposes of obfuscating matters such that the Banks can put their proverbial thumbs on the scale when they compute earnings for the customer? This would be funny if it were not bordering on the truth.
“He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”
— The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., 1958
Somewhat of an irony, the quote from MLK Jr. and Obama’s 20+ year lack of protesting against the Reverend Wright Jr….don’t you think.
Obama says he’s attended Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr racist church services for 20+ years and never…until now when he’s called on it, disavows the racist preacher. Has him officiate his wedding and baptize his kids. His actions speak louder than his words now.
Whether he was at one particular services or not is of no consequence…but I assume he was from the eye witnesses just the same.
Box puke… Obama’s whereabouts oh July 22 has already been documented… Why must you continue in your false allegations??
state banks, and federal banks operate under a different set of rules.
Chas
“The church holds services three times every Sunday at 7:30 and 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Central time. While both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami,”
“Mr. Davis said Secret Service were also present in the church during Senator Obama’s attendance”
Should be easy enough to verify if Secret Service was there.
Heckler, there are many site repeating the info below.
“In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama campaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17kristol.html?ref=opinion
What time was his speech?
Anyone bother to ask the Secret Service?
Heckler, you can’t reason with the profoundly ignorant. You know that. You and everyone else will understand, but Monkey, Chas, and possibly Hud, are simply unable….to simple themselves to ever get it.
WILLIAM KRISTOL, from the NY Times;
Published: March 17, 2008
“In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama campaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.”
Notice that Kristol is simply saying that the ‘Obama camp’ refuted the claim by someone else, Ronald Kessler in this case, and nothing more. Kristol simply ‘cited’ a report by Kessler that Kristol later retracts having sited. BUT the person originally making the report is NOT retracting it at all. Those idiots above are using two different mens statements as if they are the same.
The above quote was from William Kristol from the New York Times, a left wing rag about to go broke. It is NOT from the pen of Ronald Kessler, the journalist who has written about Wright’s ministry, and “claims that Obama was in fact in the pews at Trinity last July 22. That’s when Wright blamed the “arrogance” of the “United States of White America” for much of the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks. In any case, given the apparent frequency of such statements in Wright’s preaching and their centrality to his world view, the pretense that over all these years Obama had no idea that Wright was saying such things is hard to sustain.”
“Ha, the NY Times, you gota be kidding. They get it wrong most the time. I trust NewsMax and an eye witness considerably more. The Times is just a left-wing rag.”
Jesus Christ, you really like displaying your ignorance for all to see, eh Boxlock?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/aboutus/bio_kristol.asp
Kristol is a CONSERVATIVE. He is the editor of the Weekly Standard, which I consider pretty out there, but it has some journalistic standards.
Unlike NewsMax.
You just read the New York Times and reflexively reacted, didn’t you?
He read William Kristol, and thought comedian, instead of right wing pundit!!
Gee whiz, Box dumb…. we give you a quote where the allegation is refuted, and you STILL wont back off of your lies!! What more do you WANT???
Kristol retracted the claim because Kessler has no evidence for it.
It really looks bad when you call people ignorant out of apparent ignorance.
I must say that improves my opinion of Kristol somewhat… not much… but some…
Op-Ed Columnist
Generation Obama? Perhaps Not.
New York Times
By WILLIAM KRISTOL
Published: March 17, 2008
In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama campaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.
That was printed in the NY Times though, not the Weekly Standard and was not written by Kessler.
What was retracted was the column by KRISTOL citing Kessler. The comments by Ronald Kessler were NOT retracted by Kessler.
You’ve got one columnist siting another, and when the Obama camp claims differently, as if anybody can believe them anyway, the first columnist retracts what he wrote only in citing the second. That doesn’t have anything to do with the second columnists claims which still stand.
See what I said Heckler…they are dumb as posts.
UMMMMM, ghotiphase???? Where are the Black Reservations or the European Reservations??? We have Navaho, Cherokee, Blackfoot, Apache, Potawatomie, Kickapoo, WhiteCloud, Sac/Fox, Reservations, etc. I dont remember ever having seen Blacks or Europeans calling Cowboys “Pale Face” in the Westerns. Blazzing Saddles had a Black Sheriff. John Wayne did not circle the wagons around Blacks and Europeans. He did not worry about Blacks and Europeans scalping him. The Europeans that did migrate here came from Canada are are Artisian. If they cam by water they are Arsian. Columbus did not have Thanks Giving with the Blacks. He had them as slaves on his ship. Blacks dont use animal names. Blacks dont use peace pipes. Blacks dont have squaws, they have “Hoes or Hotties”. Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com
A perspective from a Black Baptist Pastor >>>
http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2008/03/jeremiah-wright-and-the-gospel-000332.php
Well, if Kristol retracts what he said, that he got from Kessler, that says a whole lot about what Kristol thinks of Kessler’s accuracy!!
Hey, why dont you just Google Obama/Campaign/Miami/July,2007, and see what you get?? That should just about solve the problem… at least for THAT sermon…. as for others, like the one preached in December, it should be in the archives section of the Trinity Church web site!!
Apparently, Obama was in Miami, FL, on July 22… giving a speech to La Raza, another questionably radical type group…
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/03/020058.php
“…as for others, like the one preached in December, it should be in the archives section of the Trinity Church web site!!”
Here in lies a problem, Chas. I did not check it but the web site, at least this morning, reportedly the web site has changed somewhat today, said all sermons were archived. Could Obama have played back any sermons he missed; could any of his staff have checked the web site; for some reason it is hard to believe no one knew anything.
Maybe he knew nothing, who am I to say. But I do have to ask myself if I want this man who nothing for 20 years to be President.
None the less, Kristol’s ‘retraction’ consisted of nothing more than one author citing another, and when when the Obama camp refutes Obama’s presents at the church, and what else could they do after all, KRISTOL retracts his citation of Kessler. After all what could he do, Kristol wasn’t there, only Kessler was, and he never retracted anything.
Now that that’s hopefully cleared up the fact remains…”In any case, given the apparent frequency of such statements in Wright’s preaching and their centrality to his world view, the pretense that over all these years Obama had no idea that Wright was saying such things is hard to sustain.”
Nobody can be that asleep week on week, year after year for 20+ years. Obama knew and knows exactly what the Reverend Wright is all about, that being black racism and anti-Americanism. And only now, when confronted, does Obama try to distance himself, but not before.
You know, if this is what causes anyone to make up their mind how to vote they don’t have much of a mind.
Sigh….
THIS is what is gonna happen with Obama. And all because of the media love affair with him.
He’s probably a minefield of problems. But nobody went looking. Now that it is so late in the nomination process, he’s gonna be even more and more unelectable.
Who this is really not fair to is John Edwards.
Hey I don’t even have that big a problem with Obama’s pastor or what he said.
But politically? In out sound bite, short attention span culture? This is devastating.
And as I have said elsewhere, he is dealing with it in a completely inept manner.
I still contend it is wonderful to have two strong candidates for the Democratic nomination. We the voters win from the competition. Does the Republican Party candidate tell you why he should be elected, do his supporters tell you why he should be voted for? Nope. All you hear is why you shouldn’t vote for either of the possible Democratic candidates.
Oh, and be afraid, very afraid.
If I die tomorrow I will not spend today worrying about this maybe being my last day. I am soooo finished withe the politics of fear! What time I have won’t be spent being afraid!
Amen, Linda!! And JR, I have to agree that I dont find a lot of what Dr. Wright says highly offensive, IF taken in context, not in sound bytes!! HUD, I have never had any congregants request a tape of a sermon, for about the past 5 - 6 years… When I was in Sioux City, we had a weekly TV broadcast, on local access cable TV!!!
But oher than that, not much of a market for sermons…
It was also pointed out that Trinity UCC has 3 services per Sunday… Early morning… later morning, and Sunday evening… Often times in LARGE congregations, the Senior Minister only preaches ONE of those services!! Rarely does the Senior Minister preach all three services…
Chas. don’t want to get into it on the blog but I am trying to figure out “Social Gospel”. Can you recommend a book or site which keeps it simply?
Ya know.
The right would have found this. And they would have used it long before now.
Except ALL their attention was on Senator Clinton.
Now? They find blood in the water.
Obama better not have anything else out there. Because he suddenly has a lot of light on him.
The only “new” thing they can harp on about Senator Clinton is that she hasn’t released her tax statements. And she will. Everything else has been charged and debunked overandoverandover. Those who will always believe what they choose, will always believe what they choose. They certainly won’t let facts or truth get in the way. They weren’t going to vote for a Democratic Party nominee anyway.
Chas, you are so full of it…unbelievable.
Most certainly most churches with multiple services are preached by the same pastor. After all the pastor writes the message, or at least prepares it according to the church calendar. A church isn’t going to have multiple pastors all writing different messages on the same Sunday. I’ve never been to a church where the sermons were given by different pastors.
And if you’ve never had recordings of your sermons requested, and I quote, “HUD, I have never had any congregants request a tape of a sermon, for about the past 5 - 6 years”, I’m sincerely sorry to say that says more about how well your sermons are received than it does about the congregants.
All of these folks that are bitching about Obama wouldn’t be voting for him even if he was the second coming of Washington/Lincoln/FDR rolled into one, so the debate is pointless.
Simple - if you don’t like Obama, don’t vote for him.
Vote for Bush III.
“Vote for Bush III.”
Bush III isn’t running, so that’s pointless also.
All in all this is the poorest field of candidates I’ve ever seen or even read about in history.
Box, most people do their best not to fall asleep no matter who is preaching, they certainly don’t want a tape of sermons. I have NEVER ever, even in my fundy freaky church that I grew up in, heard of someone requesting a tape of a sermon.
Why does it seem to me that Carrie’s mothers house is kindof like yours?
“Bush III isn’t running, so that’s pointless also.”
Bush III is John S. McCain, a.k.a., John W McBush, a Republican that is running on the platform of continuing the policies of George W Bush, a.k.a., Bush II.
And yes, every Republican is running on the coattails of George WMD Bush.
What Clark said at 2124…
Boxer — I have been Sr. Pastor with a staff… When we had 3 services per week, I rarely preached alll 3 of them… It is called “Scheduling” — not a problem at all!!
The Associates on staff know when they are preaching… And they are assigned their weeks well in advance… As for preparation, most sermons are not READ from a script…. Sorry if that has been your experience…
As for telling ME I dont know what I am talking about, that is about the stupidest thing you have said so far!!
Again, it is not a rare thing for the Sr. Pastor to preach at the “Main” service, and maybe an evening service… while Associates preach at others…. The POINT IS…. Who is to say which one of three services Dr. Wright was even preaching on July 22… And again, the sermons from that day should be readily available in the Sermon Archives section at http://www.tucc.org….
HUD — Walter Rauschenbusch… “The Social Gospel” One of the landmark works in that field… VERY good read!!
Don’t be like that WS.
I spent the evening toe to toe with econ the other day defending Obama the best I could.
If you think the supporters of Senator Clinton are behind this or happy about it, you are very mistaken.
There is a price to pay for being a media idol. They build people up so they can tear them down. It’s all about the story. Now we are beginning to see Obama’s story.
Political_mama;
“Box, most people do their best not to fall asleep no matter who is preaching, they certainly don’t want a tape of sermons.”
Recordings of our pastors messages are frequently ask for by those that are confined, either at home, or hospitalized, in a nursing homes or whatever. People physically unable to come to the service.
P_m maybe you would like to come to my church, I’m serious, you won’t fall asleep. It’s great.
I understand the film Carrie and the house, but I’m tired or slow right now, how does that pertain to mine?
WS, McCain is nothing like Bush. Not that I am supporting either in this discussion but they are both way short of what I would like to see in a choice.
BOXER says >>>>
“I’ve never been to a church where the sermons were given by different pastors.”
Hmmmm… guess you havent hung out around many Catholic Parishes with multiple staff, or Lutheran, or Episcopal parishes with large membership, and multiple staff… Happens quite frequently…. Sorry your experience seems to be so limited!!
“If you think the supporters of Senator Clinton are behind this or happy about it, you are very mistaken.”
Never said that……………….
“WS, McCain is nothing like Bush”
How is he different? So far, he has said NOTHING to distance himself from Bush and his policies.
Zero.
ALSO, Boxer…. You will please note carefully that I said I havent had requests or tapes in the past 5 - 6 years…. I ALSO noted that in the time I was in Sioux City, our parish was on local access TV every week… Thus, Sunday services were available to the entire community each week… Back in my younger years, we didnt have TAPING technology readily available… My secretaries in those days did a LOT of typing on Mondays and Tuesdays, FROM cassette tapes… to make PRINTED copies available for those who wanted them…
See, many Pastors dont use manuscripts…. And the only way to get a printed copy, is to have a tape transcribed to print medium….
Any more questions on professional procedures??
As always, Ms. Inks, you nail it, one more time!
“If I die tomorrow I will not spend today worrying about this maybe being my last day. I am soooo finished with the politics of fear! What time I have won’t be spent being afraid!”
And because of my agreement with you, I will not contribute any more of my money to politicians.
Let me explain. I sent Paul Morrison, plenty of money in 2006. I sent him some in 2007. All for naught.
I sent John Kerry money in 2004 - all for naught. I now send my funds to groups that I think will help me and defend my rights:
ACLU - some funds
Southern Povery Law Center - more funds
I decided to send the SPLC money because they were trying to promote tolerance. They were opposed by the Christian far right because of their promotion of tolerance for gays/lesbians - big surprise there!
ACLU is tending to the whole torture, etc. thing…
Night all,
Steven
Chas,
I didn’t mean to infer that the message was read. They are still ‘written’, at least the context is formed and presented.
Also, I would like to apologize for the my comment about no one requesting copies of your messages.
That wasn’t fair.
I am being honest though now…in the past we have engaged in….ah, discussions we’ll call them, that are less that mature, no down right nasty. You haven’t seemed to me to be particularly filled with a gentle, evangelical or Christian spirit. At least that’s my observation. It would be quite difficult for me to attend your church as I realize I’m in need of some help and look for those that can model.
Maybe we can take it up tomorrow, unless I miraculously somehow become well and never frequent this blog again.
Night all,
And what Clark said at 9139…
Let me explain. I sent Paul Morrison, plenty of money in 2006. I sent him some in 2007. All for naught.
Not exactly naught , Steven. Fred Six != Phill Kline. Not by a longshot.
Oh wait–Fred was the justice, right? Whatever.
Thanks, Rage.
I went to gatherings supporting Paul, etc. I came to this blog everyday to correct errors perpetrated by his insane oppoents. I believed in the man, though I did not like how he looked at my wife, when we met him. I asked her later, and she thought he might be a horn-dog, too.
I was very disappointed in how his whole campaign, etc. turned out. Paul convinced me, I will never send money to politicians again.
I will send money to the ACLU and the SPLC and similar groups. No more to people running for office. Sorry.
Thanks for for your input…
Chas.
Posted March 17, 2008 at 9:39 pm | Permalink
ALSO, Boxer…. You will please note carefully that I said I havent had requests or tapes in the past 5 - 6 years….
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God I’m surprised!
Well, Boxer, In many of the Gospel narratives, you wont find a “gentle Jesus, meek and mild” either… When he calls his enemies “a brood of vipers” When he overturns the tables of the “money changers” at the Temple… because they were short changing honest worshippers…. When he levels his barbed parables at the Pharisees… Not much gentility there… There are a lot of solid punches directed at the keepers of the status quo of His time… Many of us still follow that example…. The Jesus preaching and working for Justice… The Jesus who breaks the LAW of the church by healing a man on the Sabbath… and getting in the FACE of the ruling authorities!! Oh yea, lots of Social Gospel there… and he pulled no punches in doing so….
This is an especially good week to read all of those things again!! Holy Week is a great time for contemplation, and inner study!!
Ain’t nuthin wrong with the church website, but they gotta hide it for some reason.
The racist church must now try to downplay it’s reason for being.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/17/trinity-united-church-of-christ-makes-changes-to-web-site/
The Chicago church of Barack Obama appears to be adjusting its Web site by relocating a section that outlined black ethics to be taught in homes, churches and schools.
The Web site for the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago had described its congregation as “unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian” but has made changes to the “About Us” section.
The section no longer contains the “Black Value System.” It has been replaced with videotaped testimonials by church members.
Why dont you quote the whole context, Max?? Cause it makes you look STUPID if you do???
“When I was in Sioux City, we had a weekly TV broadcast, on local access cable TV!!!”
Now, thats the rest of what I said about taped sermons!! Now if you cant figure that out Max, then , well, nevermind!!
Comparison to Romney! Look what happened to Mitt after his speech!
LOL
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/17/under-pressure-obama-prepares-for-race-and-unity-speech/
Barack Obama is preparing to deliver a major address Tuesday on race, politics and unifying the country after being hounded by questions about his relationship to a pastor whose sermons have been laced with anti-American invective.
In a speech whose religious significance could compare to one given in December by former GOP presidential hopeful and Mormon Mitt Romney, Obama may be forced to explain the philosophy of the 8,000-strong Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, where the Democratic presidential candidate has been a congregant for 20 years.
I’m sure they archived those Sioux City tapes somewhere.
Should be real interesting to watch.
Max shows how our candidate will swiftboated this time around.
One problem–people like Obama. They really like him.
McBush, not so much.
Max - you would not vote for Obama under any circumstances, so why do you think your opinion on this issue has merit?
Hehe, good point, Clark.
I was wondering the same thing. Max has never voted for anybody except for a RepubliCON in his entire benighted life.
Obama could be re-incarnated as Barry Goldwater, and Max would still vote for McBush.
Next to the dictionary definition of “useful idiot” in the dictionary there’s a picture of Max.
Actually, Max, unfortunately the Sioux City services were not archived by the local access transmitter…. And the tapes, owned by the congregation, were simply used again the following week… So, they are Pooof Gone!!
Anybody wonder how in the world Limbaugh managed to buy the performance rights for the music to “Barack the Magic Negro” from Peter, Paul, and Mary??? Maybe El-Rushbo is in violation of copyright laws???
And with his constant ranting at Republicans to cross over and vote for Hillary in the Democrat primaries… Isnt that really close to borderline Election Fraud?? Since Limbaugh is doing it across state lines, and he even brags about what he is doing?? I wonder if anybody has looked into the legality of what he is doing?? And not just Rush, but the others who have joined his “countdown to chaos” as he called it this morning… He is intentionally admitting he is attempting to throw the Democrat Party into chaos….
I do hope somebody investigates…
Well this is all I’ll say.
WS and Capn?
You are on a bandwagon that is headed over a cliff.
And no I am not happy about it.
I can’t wait to hear Obama’s great speech. I found this draft in an email sent to me from one of my sources:
1. I slept in church and didn’t pay attention, never heard any bad comments from Rev Wright, if I was there I was sleeping, but I had a dream…..
2. I dreamt about how I can unite this God damned country we live in. (No I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
3. I will unite all of the United KKK States of America. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
4. I know what it’s like to be in a land controlled by rich white people, but obviously I can see both sides, so I understand, and I can help unite all sides. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
5. The government didn’t lie about inventing HIV to kill blacks, they just forgot to tell us about it, but I can unite everyone on this. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
6. America didn’t deserve 911, but we weren’t so innocent either, I mean we were asking for it and I can unite America on this. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
7. And I know Hillary has never been called a “N” word, but I’ll solve that problem too!
8. And Bill was sorta doing things to blacks like he did to Monica, I mean riding hard and all, but I’ll make sure that stops now. (No, I can’t tell you how yet, but I’ll tell you later)
Well, that’s my last and final comments on this most private matter between me and my preacher man and God, so I won’t be taking any questions.
Have a nice day y’all!
Eff you very much, Max.
And what does John WMD McBush have to offer other than “Four More Years!”
Ask McCain’s preacher about that.
I wonder if McCain’s preacher was the one that married him after he abandoned his first wife who stood by him for the years he was a POW?
“Ask McCain’s preacher about that.”
You mean Hagee?
My God, you guys don’t even know McCain’s preacher! You dig that dirt up on your own candidate and forgot about McCain?
Max, we’re not as obsessed with McCain’s preacher the way you guys are with Obama’s preacher… Your obsession with Obama’s church is borderline SICK!!
Obama Better Give A Great God Damn Speech Tuesday!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/poll-shows-rev.html
Poll shows Rev. Jeremiah Wright hurting Barack Obama
Who knows how long the Rev. Jeremiah Wright brouhaha will play out, but revelations of Barack Obama’s pastor’s objectionable sermons have apparently eroded public perceptions of Obama, according to a fresh analysis by the Rasmussen Report tracking poll.
With the Wright episode playing out over the past few days, the poll found Obama’s favorable rating nationally had dropped five points to 47% since Thursday, and his unfavorable rating had risen from 44% to 50%. Among white voters, the unfavorable numbers jumped to 54%. The poll also found John McCain leading both Obama and Hillary Clinton in head-to-head national matchups, whereas a week ago they they were essentially tied.
“My God, you guys don’t even know McCain’s preacher!”
Hagee is McBush’s preacher and Johnny Wannabe stood right there by his side when Hagee endorsed McCain for the presidency.
McCain did not make an issue out of his pastor.
Obama did.
Obama was a dumbshit for bringing Wright up and ever mentioning his name, especially in his book. But Obama did have to somehow deny his Muslim faith.
Oh.
Sorta boring preachers. No nasty news about them?
So McCain belongs to Hagee’s congregation and Hagee is McCain’s spiritual advisor, is that what you are saying Clark?
How long does it take to google?
The answer is No, and No.
McCain does not belong to Hagee’s congregation and Hagee is not McCain’s spiritual advisor.
“But Obama did have to somehow deny his Muslim faith.”
If you want to discuss the issue, Max, cut the bullshit - everyone knows that Obama is NOT a Muslim - so try sticking to the facts.
Max doesnt know Fact from Fiction, Clark… not any more…
Can’t wait for Obama’s speech.
Also need to listen to the SCOTUS tomorrow.
Ouch Chas. A personal attack from a preacher.
How could you?
No personal attack… just the facts, Max…
They were supposed to fix the “refresh page” problem on here… But they havent done it yet!!
Slow as molasses!!
Chas., Thanks.
Ordered
Christianity and the Social Crisis in the 21st Century
and
A Theology for the Social Gospel
Chas. Posted March 17, 2008 at 10:26 pm |
“Well, Boxer, In many of the Gospel narratives, you wont find a “gentle Jesus, meek and mild” either… ”
No Chas you don’t, but neither do you find a Jesus that is out of control in disagreement and hate. He got them riled up enough to to tortuously kill him but he was always in control and authority.
Since many of the DemLibs fail to read good commentary I thought I’d provide excerpts of an intellectual treat this morning from David Limbaugh.
“We all know that one’s character cannot be separated from his actions, as the latter springs from the former. Voters must satisfy themselves about a candidate’s character since his character will have an impact on their lives.
The racist, anti-American rantings of Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama’s spiritual mentor and pastor of the church Obama attended for 20 years, raise many red flags about Obama’s supposedly best selling point: his unique capability for healing societal divisions.
Considering our deep-seated societal disagreements over cultural and political issues, promises by politicians to end societal divisiveness are dubious enough on their face. But when the promiser’s personal history contradicts his promises, even further scrutiny is required.
Before this story heated up beyond the mainstream media’s ability to suppress it, Obama casually dismissed the pastor’s tirades merely as “controversial” remarks — as if they had some legitimacy and were not outright indefensible but in any event should not be taken too seriously.
We must recognize the double standard that liberals typically apply to immunize themselves from accountability for bigotry. When the remotest connection can be inferred between a conservative and a bigoted supporter, there is always hell to pay. No excuses are permitted. Guilt attaches — not even by so much as true association but by passive receipt of an endorsement from anyone the left believes to have bigoted views.
Liberals, on the other hand, can be overtly racist toward conservative blacks like Condoleezza Rice and Clarence Thomas and earn accolades rather than condemnation. And in Obama’s case, we have more than passive receipt of an endorsement. We have more than guilt by casual association.”
My,my…ain’t it the truth.
“Boxlock”= “Regular”
And so does “Max”
For those keeping score.
Gee JR, isn’t it awfully early for your paranoid delusions?
Regular, I don’t know w