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Run your car on water! So they say!!!

http://www.drivewithwaterfuel.com/?hop=hvac1981

Everything the Federal Reserve has done so far has been to prop up the stock market. The stock market is a negligible percentage of the u.s. economy, but the repository of almost all wealth. Each cut in interest rates translates into a rise in inflation that wipes out any good it does, as 90 percent of this economy is consumer driven. You can cut the rate when the dollar is strong, but it is suicide when the dollar is weak. The dollar is weak because of Bush Tax Cuts, the deficit and the unfunded war. Just try to explain that to a 70-year-old grocery clerk in Dreayville who think Hillary Clinton is a criminal due to 16 years of Limbaugh lies

Cute Headline:

http://www.nj.com/southjersey/index.ssf/2008/03/prostitution_chews_her_up_and.html

Prostitution chews her up and Spitzer out
by South Jersey News Online
Sunday March 16, 2008, 8:00 AM

When Ashley Youmans was a young Jersey girl growing up Beachwood, she had no idea a New York City prostitution ring was waiting to chew her up and Spitzer out.

But, as the entire, ogling world found out this week, that’s just what happened. About-to-be former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer paid Youmans — later “Ashley Alexandra Dupre” and, in court documents, “Kristen” — for sex.

His wife was less than thrilled. The state of New York wasn’t too psyched, either.

Vote for Obama, Cause HE’S Black:

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/719

Skin color is a factor for Barack Obama

By E. Thomas McClanahan, Star Editorial Board

Geraldine Ferraro sure stepped on a political land mine the other day. Barack Obama, she said, wouldn’t be where he is today if he hadn’t been black.

It was a textbook-level gaffe, meaning Ferraro said something impolitic — but true.

She resigned from whatever position she had with Hillary Clinton’s campaign and spent the next couple of days explaining herself on talk shows.

Meanwhile, Obama also has some explaining to do regarding his pastor.

Obama was supposed to be the transcendent candidate, the one who would move us all beyond race, but the race thing won’t go away, and how could it? The fact of Obama’s race is integral to his mystique and his political success.

As Mickey Kaus pointed out on his blog, kausfiles.com: “If Obama were white, he wouldn’t embody hopes of a post-racial future. Duh! That’s part of his appeal. It seems obvious. … Why isn’t Ferraro allowed to acknowledge it?”

Max OK we get it you don’t like Democrats / Liberals ——- now stfu you are boring in your far reich wing fascist stupidity …………

Who the phuck is “we” LR?

LR speaks for LR. You been elected something?

Clinton has the Superdelegates in her back pocket, Obama’s Rezko/Church scandal are blowing up in his face, and Clinton will steal the deal, getting the nomination for sure by having DO OVER elections in Michigan and Florida.

Everyone hates her, but she’ll win anyway! That’s the Dem Way!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-id.infocus16mar16,0,4378635.story

Clinton has reason to count on superdelegates
March 16, 2008

Barack Obama blew Hillary Clinton away in last month’s Mid-Atlantic primary. Nearly half of Obama’s delegate lead over Clinton can be traced to his landslide victories in Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia.

But the region’s superdelegates are in a different camp. Those who have made endorsements favor Clinton over Obama in each of the jurisdictions that held primaries that day.

Notice, not ONE post cited a Right Wing website.

All da bad news is coming from the Left, about the Left.

“All da bad news is coming from the Left, about the Left.”

Unlike you Max, people on the left can deal with the truth. I love this conflation tactic, if you think or believe differently than me, you MUST be in the “Hate America First” crowd. To which my new response will be “Heil Hitler” for adopting the same argument used by the worst and most deadly fascist regime in the history of the world.

Crowson cartoon today was excellent:

http://www.kansas.com/599/image_media/341882.html

The only red flag he forgot was the 9 trillion dollar national debt, to which the sitting president added more to than all preceding presidents combined.

Yeah, Max, if I were you I would be looking for all the bright and shiny objects you can find. Arguing on behalf of your party’s record would not only be difficlut, it would be patently insane.

Have a good day, oh deluded one…

Statehouse news to be reconvened tomorrow:

LATE TERM ABORTION BILL TO BE DEBATED Monday
The House Fed & State Affairs Committee passed out a late-term abortion bill to the full House last Monday, which will be debated on the floor next Monday. The committee illuminated a provision requiring doctors to provide more specific diagnoses for late-term abortions on forms sent to the state. The approved bill, now the House substitute for SB 389, added a requirement that women seeking late-term abortions be given information on free counseling for medically challenging pregnancies and free perinatal hospice services. The committee removed the contents of a bill passed unanimously by the Senate to require Senate confirmation of legislative appointments.
The bill would make several amendments dealing with late term abortions. It would authorize information obtained by the Secretary of the Department of Health and Environment, including identification of physicians and medical care facilities reporting to the Secretary, to be disclosed to the district and county attorneys in addition to the Board of Healing Arts and the Attorney General.
Under the bill, annual public reports issued by the Secretary on abortions performed would have to contain the number of pregnancies terminated, the type of medical facility and other information required to be reported to the Secretary except for information deemed to be confidential. The bill would require the Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services (SRS) to publish an annual report of child sexual abuse cases received by SRS from abortion providers. The name of the child and any other identifying information would be kept confidential and would not be included in the report. In addition, the bill would require that at least 30 minutes prior to an abortion a written copy of the documented referral and the abortion-performing physician’ s determination that the abortion is necessary to preserve the life of the woman or prevent substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function (as required by the Kansas late term abortion
statute) must be provided to the woman except in the case of a medical emergency. The name of the referring physician would have to be included in the report to the Secretary.
The bill would provide a civil cause of action (lawsuit) for injunctive relief and monetary damages against any person who violated the Act. The following people would have standing to seek an injunction against an abortion provider: The woman upon whom the abortion was preformed; a spouse, sibling, parent or grandparent of the woman; the parent or legal guardian of the woman if she is a minor; and any public official with appropriate jurisdiction to prosecute or enforce the laws of the State. The bill would allow a woman upon whom an abortion was performed, a father if married to the woman, and the parents or custodial guardian of a minor to have standing to bring a lawsuit for monetary damages for violations to the Act. The statutory damages for injuries suffered would be equal to three times the cost of the abortion and reasonable attorney fees.
The bill would require that a minor provide proof of identification and verification of such minor’s state of residence. In addition, any individual accompanying the minor also must provide proof of identification and make a written declaration as to such individual’s relationship to the minor and to the known or probable father of the fetus. Medical records of counseling would have to be retained for at least ten years. Under the bill, if an un-emanicipated minor objects to giving notice of intent to have an abortion to such minor’s custodial parents, the minor would be required to petition the courts prior to the abortion for a waiver of the notice requirement. No notice would be required if the pregnant minor declares the father of the fetus is one of the persons whom notice is given and the minor is granted a waiver of notice by the court. Neither the counselor nor any person employed by the abortion provider would be allowed to accompany or assist the minor in any court proceedings.
In addition, the judicial record of the courts would have to be given to the minor or adult chosen by the minor and a second copy would have to be sent to the abortion provider to be included in the medical records of the minor. The judicial record would have to remain in the minor’s medical records and kept by the abortion provider for at least ten years. The chief judge of each judicial district would be required to send annual reports to the Department of Health and Environment disclosing in a non-identifiable manner, the following:
? The number of minors seeking bypass of parental notification;
? The number of petitions granted;
? The reasons for granting such petitions;
? Any actions taken to protect the minor from domestic or predator abuse;
? Each minor’s state of residence, age and disability status; and
? The gestational age of the fetus if the petition is granted.
Under the bill, if during the judicial hearing on a petition, the court suspects physical, mental, emotional, or sexual abuse, the court would be required to report those suspicions to the appropriate authority while providing anonymity or confidentiality of the judicial waiver proceedings. The bill would require agents acting within the scope of their employment with persons providing medical or treatment to file reports of abuse. At least 24 hours before the abortion, the physician would have to inform the woman in writing that contact information for free counseling assistance, free perinatal hospice service, and services from medical specialists are available. And, the bill would require that the abortion provider, at least 30 minutes prior to the abortion, provide the woman with the opportunity to view the ultrasound image of the fetus if ultrasound equipment is used in performing the abortion and an opportunity to listen to the heartbeat of the fetus if heart monitoring equipment is used. The physician is required to certify that such offer was made and whether they were accepted or rejected by the woman. Such certification would have to be kept in the woman’s medical records for at least ten years.
Opponents of the bill said that the bill continues to restrict access for women who seek reproductive health-care services. Kansans for Life, which opposes abortion, did not comment on the bill when asked by reporters. The bill’s sponsor, Olathe Republican Rep. Lance Kinzer, dropped the provision for more specific reporting requirements to give other parts of the package a better chance at approval. Gov. Sebelius previously vetoed a measure that would have required the state to collect more detailed diagnoses. The approved bill has a provision that allows a group of 10 or more Kansans to sue the KDHE and force it to provide the information required by law on late-term abortion forms.
Kinzer contends that information already should include a specific diagnosis. The forms, which already are public records, don’t contain personal information. The KDHE has said that it doesn’t require a specific diagnosis. The bill provides “the right for citizens to have that information and a legal process to require KDHE to turn over that information,” Kinzer said.
Rep. Ann Mah, D-Topeka, argued that if getting more information is the issue, lawmakers should approve a bill requiring the more detailed diagnosis instead of a broader measure with more provisions.
Requiring just a specific diagnosis would give the bill more support, she said. Kinzer said it would be a mistake to go with the less comprehensive measure.
Other provisions in the proposal include:
? A requirement that women be provided a chance to ask the physician about the procedure at least 30 minutes before the abortion is performed.
? Allowing women the chance to see any ultrasound images taken of their fetus or hear a fetal heartbeat.
? Requiring the Kansas Board of Healing Arts to revoke the medical license of a doctor who breaks the state’s late-term abortion law.
? Allowing the attorney general, district or county attorney to prosecute a reported violation in the county where it happened or the county where the woman lives.

IMMIGRATION BILLS BEING WORKED CONCURRENTLY IN EACH HOUSE
The Senate Federal and State Affairs Committee approved an immigration reform bill the chamber called “a giant step forward.” But supporters of the original bill were seething after the measure was stripped of virtually all penalties on businesses that knowingly hire undocumented workers, instead making that a civil offense. The bill now heads to the Senate floor for a vote. In addition to the removal of penalties for businesses, the Senate proposal also struck the requirement that employers use E-Verify, a federal database used to check the legal status of workers. Instead, businesses that voluntarily use the system can use that fact as a defense during legal proceedings.
The business community opposed requiring use of E-Verify, saying the system is unreliable.
The original senate bill mandated anywhere from a 10-day suspension of business licenses up to a permanent suspension for employers knowingly hiring undocumented workers. Business groups like the state chamber, the Farm Bureau, and Kansas Livestock Association said that provision could shut down entire industries.
During Wednesday’s meeting, Senator John Vratil, R-Leawood, offered an amendment striking that language, much to the displeasure of Sen.
Ralph Ostmeyer, R-Grinnell, one of the original measure’s sponsors. “We just destroyed the bill,” he said. Sen. Shirley Palmer, R-Augusta, another sponsor of the original bill went further, saying supporters of the new language were “on the side of power and money.” Vratil’s amendment also created the crime of using false identification to obtain a job and engaging in human trafficking.
Meanwhile, the House Federal and State Affairs Committee worked until about 9 p.m. Wednesday night on its version of immigration reform.

IMMIGRATION BILLS TO BE DEBATED NEXT WEEK IN HOUSE & SENATE
Lawmakers in House and Senate committees on Wednesday passed two watered-down illegal immigration reform bills with few sanctions for businesses that employ illegal immigrants. “We gave the problem a pass,” said Rep. Ann Mah, D-Topeka, in the House Committee on Federal and State Affairs. She called the proposal a “sucker punch.” The House committee, which met into the evening, rejected two amendments that would have removed the chance of a business losing its license for employing illegal immigrants. On Monday, House lawmakers had changed the bill to require only that businesses use the federal verification system e-Verify if a jury had found they knowingly employed illegal immigrants. Second and third violations could lead to the businesses temporarily losing their licenses. The House bill, House Substitute for SB 329, also includes a phase-in process under which first state agencies and contractors and then private businesses by 2010 would be required to use the e-Verify system.
The House committee cut a section requiring everyone who got a Kansas driver’s license to sign an affidavit stating that they were a U.S. citizen. But the bill still contains a provision under which state agencies — such as law enforcement departments — could lose their state funding in some circumstances for not enforcing immigration laws.

The Senate version had a similar fate in the Federal and State Affairs Committee, with one sponsor calling the revision “major surgery.” The bill’s two sponsors on the committee, Republican Sens.
Jim Barnett of Emporia and Ralph Ostmeyer of Grinnell, voted against the revised measure. Ed Hayes, chapter director for the Kansas Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, asked: “How can they gut this thing when the citizens of Kansas are calling 300 to one to leave it in its original form?” after the Senate committee met in the morning. The answer to that question is the strong opposition to the employer sanctions by the Kansas Chamber of Commerce & Industry, the Kansas Farm Bureau and the Kansas Livestock Association, three big powerful interest groups here in the Capitol. The Senate’s revised measure, now Substitute for SB 458, no longer requires businesses to check employees’ work eligibility through the federal e-Verify system. It also removes most penalties for businesses that violate the law. Jeffrey Glendening, vice president of the Kansas Chamber, called the revised Senate bill “a giant step forward.”
However, sponsor Sen. Peggy Palmer, R-Augusta, said the new bill took the side of big business and did nothing to solve the problem. An amendment offered by Sen. John Vratil, R-Leawood, eliminated broad swaths of Palmer’s original proposal and added three amendments. His changes cut out a section that would have required law enforcement officers to ask about the citizenship or immigration status of everyone they stopped. The House committee kept a similar provision but only required the request if an arrest was made. Vratil also added a section that made using false or misleading documents to get a job a felony and made it a felony to coerce another person to work.
Both measures now go to their respective chambers and ours comes up for debate next Thursday. Neither bill would eliminate in-state tuition for illegal immigrants children who graduated from Kansas high schools but there are expected to be efforts to add lots of stuff on the floor of the House.

(IT APPEARS THE KANSAS LEGISLATURE HAS WATERED DOWN A STRONG ANTI-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BILL. LEGISLATURES FROM BOTH SIDES ARE COMING ON STRONG IN PUBLIC, BUT IT APPEARS THEY WILL KNUCKLE UNDER NEXT WEEK AND DO LITTLE IF ANY CHANGES.)

(IF THIS ISSUE CONCERNS YOU: BETTER MAKE YOUR TELEPHONE CALLS/EMAILS TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVES TOMORROW!)

(WITHOUT A PUBLIC OUTCRY, THE 2008 ACTIONS WILL BE LITTLE MORE THAN LIP SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS.)

you are boring in your far reich wing fascist stupidity …………

Actually, I find him somewhat humorous. Nearly every one of his post screams “Cherry Boy”

Max you must have struck a nerve.

You have the party which says they are above the personal attacks and name-calling….
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well, reduced to personal attacks and name-calling.

Keep up the good work. They are so frustrated they can’t respond.

Reviewing your post today, I’d guess you never get invited to any parties. :)

And I used to have a party. But they don’t stand for anything anymore. Hope Ron Paul goes independent. I’ll make my voice heard by voting for someone, instead of against someone.

“ardend defender of irrational fringe”

Ghotiphaze I don’t think Max is extreme. That he may appear extreme only reflects how for to the left this nation has become. Thoughts and beliefs which were held by our parents and forefathers are still reflected in the value system of many Americans. We used to call them the silent majority. I think there is a majority still out there. But they are now aligned between the far left and far right. Unfortunately, the dynamics of the two political parties do not allow us to align ourselves this way. If we support either party, we carry the unwanted baggage of the extremist on either side.

You have to admit, there are many extreme liberals on the WEBLOG. So naturally, a strong voice which is bold as brass from the conservative right – also is protrayed here as extreme.

But I also think there are libs here, like a very few conservatives, who are stuck in the middle. As the battle lines are drawn, we get sucked into the camp sticking up for the extremes on either side.

I have admitted there are big faults in the fabric of the Republican Party. I have often posted my displeasure at President Bush (but I have also defended him against the extreme hatred I see often see here).

What I find “irrational” is the fact that liberals find no fault at all within their party.
Almost as if they are afraid to break ranks.

Maybe if more of us broke ranks with the two parties, we would emerge with a party which reflects the best of both. But that would require compromise, and compromise is impossible if neither side will budge.

I still respond many times to the extreme, with the opposite extreme. Not always right, but to me it helps reveal the irrational of the opposite.

It appears to me that Max stands on his principles, even if they are unpopular here, or elsewhere. I respect that.

AmWay,

Your 10:44 post also had some useful points.

I do take exception with your statement that the Left won’t break with their talking points. I guess you have not noticed the near fist fights that have emerged between Obama and Clinton supporters around here late at night.

The Dems are not a united party and that is one of the few truthful points Max makes.

I tried not to say “all”. It gets me into trouble every time. I thought I had that covered though by my subject matter expressing how we each get caught up in positions of the extremes. Oh well.

The cat fight between Obama and Clinton has been noticed (and enjoyed). But unfortunately, I’m seeing disagreement on personalities – not the content of the two candidates positions.

It would be a rewarding and interesting to read about the contrasting positions on the issues Obama and Clinton have. Maybe I’m skim reading and just missed it.

Do you guys ever discuss costs of some of their proposals – instead of just bringing up the Iraq war cost as a comparison? (The Afghan/Iraq War are big contributers to the national debt you are concerned about. We cannot just replace one program with another – and expect the debt to “go away”.

Challenging the Radical Left and their fraudulent claims against our brave troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Today, fraudulent war-crimes claims are again being circulated and given unquestioned credibility by certain Members of Congress. We intend to expose these unfair accusations against our troops in Iraq. The American people have the right to know the truth, as it was then, and as it is now. More importantly, they need to be alerted to the grave danger faced by our country if we elect officials who have declared their intention to repeat the worst mistake of the Vietnam War: legislating defeat.

This group of highly decorated Veterans just delivered this letter to all 535 members of congress demanding that the truth be told. Help us force Congress to face the truth.

To: United States Congress

From: Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation

Re: Iraq Veterans Against the War

A group calling themselves “Iraq Veterans Against the War” (IVAW) will march on Washington, DC, similar to the one staged in April, 1971 by their forebears, “Vietnam Veterans Against the War” (VVAW). Like their predecessors, IVAW will claim that several in their group have either participated in or witnessed war crimes committed by their fellow American troops in Iraq. According to news reports, the IVAW intends to have their claims of war crimes read into the Congressional Record.

Before you listen to or acknowledge them, you would do well to fact-check their stories, verify that the accusers actually served in combat units in Iraq at the times they claim, and determine if there is any support for and corroborating evidence of their war crime and atrocity claims. Many members of Congress were embarrassed by the VVAW some 37 years ago because they failed to conduct any investigation, instead accepting these allegations without question.
Click here to read the rest of the letter.

American pilots do not conduct air-raids on villages, killing civilians, nor are our troops cold-blooded murderers or terrorists. But, if you believe some current members of Congress who have accused our men and women in uniform of all that and worse, you would have to conclude our military is a barbarian horde, just as John Kerry had previously said.

It was a lie then, and it’s an even bigger lie today. The truth is that some in the U.S. Congress and their mouthpieces in the media now represent a much bigger threat to the lives of our men and women in combat, and our national security, than any foreign enemy.

Over the last few months, the “Liberal’s War on America” has gone badly.

* MoveOn, the New York Times, and Senators who accused Gen. Petraeus of being a traitor and a liar have been exposed and repudiated;
* The media’s attempted flim-flam to portray Iran’s Terrorist Dictator as a “Statesman,” tripped on Columbia University’s red carpet;
* The brave combat Marines whom Congressman Murtha and the press eagerly charged with “cold-blooded murders” in Iraq are being found innocent, acquitted one by one.

The “War” is not going well … the “War On America,” that is.

Those who claimed they “Supported the Troops” are finally being unmasked, shown for being the cowards they are. But, it won’t be long before they regroup, begin their own “Surge” in this decades-long “War On America.” We won’t stand by quietly when they do, nor should you.

My fellow POWs and I have long known the contempt the extreme Left has for our military. We felt the crush of rifle butts in our faces, beatings and unspeakable torture in the Hanoi Hilton Prison when we refused to kowtow to American traitors who traveled to these countries for propaganda “photo-ops” with our Communist jailors.

The so-called “anti-war movement,” lead by the likes of Lt. John Kerry and his mentor, Sen. Ted Kennedy, also said they “supported the troops”. What they didn’t say is whose “troops.”

We knew the answer then, we were witnesses and victims. It’s the same today. They “support” America’s enemies, any Communist Regime, Dictator or Terrorists that vow to kill and maim American soldiers and innocent civilians.

Today, our sons, daughters and grandchildren serving in uniform stand accused of being “terrorists,” “Nazis,” “cold-blooded murderers,” people who wantonly conduct “air raids on villages” bombing and killing civilians.

Every one of those spurious accusations were spewed from the Halls of Congress, most often by the same men and women who voted to send America’s youth to war, only to denounce, vilify and abandon them later, when the opportunity for personal, political advantage presented itself.

When I and my fellow veterans – POWs, Soldiers, Airmen, Marines and Sailors, all combat veterans alike – attempted to warn America about one of the most notorious turncoats from the Vietnam era, we were initially ignored by the mainstream media.

The treatment accorded General Petraeus by the same radicals in Congress and the media was strikingly similar to our experiences in 2004. Before he uttered a single word, this highly decorated combat veteran, this “Soldiers General”, a man of great honor who has and continues to risk his life in the defense of our country, stood accused, disparaged and berated by a pack of power-hungry shirkers and slackers unworthy to polish his combat medals. Contribute

Veterans who attempted to expose Sen. Kerry in were treated no better. But, Kerry and his band of Leftist comrades had something special in store for me and my fellow POWs and their wives.

We were sued repeatedly for three long years, forced to spend over $1 million just to defend ourselves in several frivolous lawsuits.

What did we do to cause such a prolonged, vindictive assault? We told the truth no Mainstream Media news operation had the courage to print nor wanted the American public to know, then or now.

Worse of all, Kerry’s self-aggrandizing, false accusations against American soldiers who had born the brunt of the bleeding and dying in Vietnam, spawned the myths our young men and women in Iraq today are forced to defend against, even as they fight for their lives on the battlefield each and every day.

You can draw a straight line from the deceitful Leftist tactics used to bring America’s defeat and dishonor in Vietnam to Iraq today.

America’s military didn’t lose the Vietnam War. Congress declared defeat, voted to abandon South Vietnam nearly two years after our last combat troops left. That sell-out, not only of our South Vietnam ally, but the nearly 60,000 Americans who gave their lives on the battlefield, ignited a genocidal holocaust throughout Southeast Asia that can still only be measured in the millions, an estimated three to five million innocent civilians brutally murdered.

We cannot let that happen again. You and I must not let that happen. You can stand shoulder to shoulder with us to prevent that from happening.

Four years ago, I and my fellow POWs and combat veterans created a non-profit organization, “The Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation”. Our goal is simple, to set the record straight about how gallant our mothers, fathers, sons and daughters served with honor as members of our Armed Forces. Little did we know then we’d be slapped with multiple lawsuits for daring to uncover the layer upon layer of lies that constitute the false history and not the truth.

Nor, could we know then the Left’s plans to use the same blueprint for defeat in Iraq.

But, in order to show that, to prove that and to reach the widest public audience we need your help. Three years of litigation and research has put us deeply in debt, $250,000.00 in legal fees alone. We do not have MoveOn.Org’s deep pockets, nor will we get a discount from The New York Times.

Anything you can afford to help us complete our mission, to set the record straight about Vietnam and, now, Iraq, is desperately needed and greatly appreciated. But, time is running short.

Once we get the truth out to the American people, there will be winners. Those winners will be every man and woman who has served in our Armed Forces. To them and their families, this is a war we cannot lose.

The “Liberal War On America” is just heating up again. What we do now will dictate America’s future, whether it is one of victory over terrorism, or, decades more of defeat, humiliation in a lost, but noble cause.

God Bless You and America,

Col. Bud Day

Among his many decorations from World War II, Korea and Vietnam, Col. Day is a Medal of Honor recipient and a combat pilot held captive for more than five years in the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison. Human Events

The above letter is not the opinion of Human Events, but Colonel Bud Day’s.

I thought you said viet nam vets are a bunch of pot smoking cowards —– now you change your tune —-

you ARE a loser —-

I am going to post my letter to the editor that did not get published here. We can end the Iraq war tomorrow and that will not make any difference in the debt problems we now have. I think few people know that. There is no way we can promise for the government to cover health care costs of more people and expect the responsible paying down of the debt. I think your complaints about people not getting these facts are accurate. I used to not and my life was simplier in many ways when I did not.

Here is the LTTE:

There is one campaign slogan we won’t hear this 2008 election season: “If elected, I will cut popular entitlement programs and raise your taxes!” Politicians, who are consummate people-pleasers prefer to make promises of good news: “We will make the middle class our priority”; “We will give all people health insurance”; “No new taxes”; “We can grow out of this deficit”, etc. As responsible citizens, we have to demand that our politicians level with us on how they plan to change our national habit of deficit spending and tell us their specific proposals on how they plan to pay down the debt.

Some Facts: 1) our national debt is now $9,000,000,000,000 – that is nine trillion, with a t dollars – which is the same as every man, woman and child in this country owing $30,000; 2) in the last 31 of 35 years we have run deficit spending budgets (we took in less than we spent); 3) in the fiscal year 2006, our interest payment on the national debt made up 8.5% of the federal budget ( a mere 266.6 billion – with a b dollars); twenty four percent of our national debt is owed to foreign countries. Compounding the above difficult numbers is the fact that we will soon be experiencing a time of unprecedented stress on our tax base as baby boomers retire, and start drawing Medicare and Social Security. Unless we make substantial changes by 2040 nearly every penny collected in taxes will go toward paying Medicare, Social Security and interest on the debt.

Factors that make the boomer demographic retiring problem worse include: people are living longer; medical expenses are rising at rates beyond the rate of inflation; health care research advances mean that each year there is more health care to purchase; the Bush administration expanded the Medicare benefits by including prescription benefits.

Some myths that need busting with respect to solving our budget deficit and national debt are: 1) stopping the war in Iraq will not save enough money to solve our deficit/debt problems; 2) ending Bush’s tax cuts on the wealthiest Americans will help with revenue, but will not be enough to produce non-deficit spending and pay down the debt; 3) eliminating all waste and fraud in government spending, while a good idea, will not be sufficient to reverse our desperate budgetary situation.

“So why should I care about this budget deficit/debt issue?” some of you may ask. If the government’s resources are all directed at Social Security, Medicare, and the debt, there will be no money to invest in research, offer help with college loans, enforce health and safety laws, take care of national parks, provide a military, assure our safety from external threats and other functions we generally expect the government to carry out. If the current trend continues, these problems will be foisted off on our children and grandchildren, who had no part in creating these dire circumstances.

Blithely, ignoring this problem is not a viable option either. As Federal Reserve Chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, said about deficit spending and the debt in January, 2007:
“The longer we wait, the more severe, the more draconian, the more difficult, the adjustment is going to be. I think the right time to start is about 10 years ago.”

The more information a citizen a citizen can obtain on this complex subject can only be helpful. A simplified introduction to this problem and solution alternatives is the recently published book, Where Does the Money Go? Your Guided Tour of the Federal Budget Crisis by Scott Bittle and Jean Johnson – Collins publishers (2008). [Much of the facts and figures quoted in this article come from the preceding book]. These websites also include extensive information and tips on being an informed voter and what activities you can do that will help address this problem:
The Concord Coalition’s website: http://www.concordcoalition.org
Bittle & Johnson’s two websites are quite useful: http://www.facingup.org and http://www.publicagenda.org

If we are willing to make sacrifices, we can resolve this admittedly large problem. We owe our children and grandchildren nothing less.

In the book I link above, Bush I was listed as a hero for raising taxes in spite of the political suicide of that action given his “no new taxes” pledge.

I fear we don’t have any politicians today willing to do what is needed due to the blow-back from such actions. Those politicians won’t answer the pointed questions of how they plan to give us their promises (which are ludicris) unless we ask them. And they may not even then.

And neither did you or I. But why should we pay the price to resolve it?

For the same reason we’re still responsible for the debts incurred by, say, George Washington. That’s how it works.

I’m pretty pissed about it, too, AW. I was complaining about it a quarter-century ago–for all the good it did.

Bring back the pre Reagan tax codes.

It really is very simple. We have a handful of folks who are living VERY well on the backs of everyone else. TAX ‘em!

AmWay,

I am a little concerned about the plan of passing this on to the next generation.

For there to be the widespread public support that isneeded to address this problem, there will have to be a perception of “fairness” in the solution.

I hope I get to work until I die. This would be harder for some workers. There are solution alternatives that can be put on the table with varying impacts on different groups. It is vitally important, I think, that we continue to look at solution alternatives. And then implement what we can agree upon.

AmWay – being 60 I agree with much of what you say. Actually, even we are living substantially longer than our parents – that is why the modest increase in age to 66 makes sense for us. However, as you correctly note, we have been paying on our ‘contract’ for many decades now so making massive changes just doesn’t wash.

One fairly modest change I would like to see – raise the ‘cap’ on earnings to be taxed. It might just be eliminated altogether but at least raise to 150% the current level. My reasonong for that: It is the high wage-earner who is more likely to use spousal benefits. Most of us below that amount are in 2-earner families and each spouse collects his-her own account. Thus the high earner can collect 150% of what he would otherwise collect.

If in our household budget we withdraw the money set aside for our vacation and spend it to buy a new wide screen TV who is at blame when we can’t take a family vacation?

We are, just as congress is in expecting to fullfill the promises made to older Americans from an empty ‘lockbox’. Only Algore ever thought there was one of those.

We have to bite the bullet and rebuild our vacation reserve just as the gov has to rebuild the SS reserve. For a family this means eating out less often, fewer movies, etc.. For our gov it means fewer entitlement programs not introducing new ones. It means not raising taxes especially on businesses so job growth will occur. In short it means tightening our belts and not expecting all of the answers to come from gov. They are clueless.

Uh Steven?

The FIRST meetup was in February 2 years ago.

The last meetup (as far as I know) was in January of last year at the Eagle.

I don’t think the Eagle will host anymore meetups because of certain posters.

I might try to organize one some time. But it will be back channel.

=take a class. Excuse my poor right wing.

:: Chas you blew your cover bigtime yesterday when you referred to a post from Chas and it was posted by ::. Please be honest in your postings.

“Raise the age for Social Security?

“Hell NO!

“Lower it.

“A reduced working pool forces employers to pay more. Thus more revenue for Social Security.”

J R,

Email me and tell me how I can get a book to you that I think you need to read. Thanks.

Ben,

If I understand you correctly, you are advocating a “means testing” of sorts on social security? There might be a variety of viable options in that area.

I still can’t accept the argument that we are not more responsible for this mess than future generations. We are. We allowed it to happen. Isn’t it only right that we fix it?

Actually, Al Gore (you betray yourself as a Rushbot when you say Algore) had the right idea.

Social Security would be fine. IF it were not being used as government funds.

This really IS very simple. We have a very small number of folks who have much.

And a whole LOT of folks who have little.

Now, time has a way of taking care of this. But it generally does not end well for the “haves”.

Frankly I am stunned that those who have so much DON’T feel obligated to pay their share.

AmWay, the fact that many Radical Libs reside on this Blog in Wichita is harly evidence of a nationwide trend toward radical liberalism/socialism.

Compared to the rest of America, the radical libs here are but the bottom of the Liberal cesspool as it drains away to the sea.

Let’s bring the tax rates under Eisenhower (boy, the comfortably affluent would hate that!). :)

oops .. miniumu should be “minimum”

“If I understand you correctly, you are advocating a “means testing” of sorts on social security? There might be a variety of viable options in that area.”

This should be a non-starter. If you paid in, you were part of the “contract” in place since FDR. You have a reasonable expectation to receive a return of the money paid in. You planned on it. You invested on it.

Let me use myself as an example (always the worst, but it works here).

I consider myself lucky to have a very good job. Actually a couple of them. My wife and I have managed to raise our kids, put them through college without school loans (in the kids names, not ours as FAFSA says we didn’t qualify), and saved for retirement. Although we have what we consider a very good income between our three jobs, we still cut coupons and budget for a modest lifestyle. We only owe for our mortgage and we are paying additional amounts to get that gone.

Meanwhile, I work with guys who have saved nothing. They have big boats on the lake, big SUV’s and pick ups, snow mobiles, jet skies, and a cabin at the lake. They are entitled to. I’m happy for them!

But here is the crux of my problem. As these are friends and business acquaintences, we talk about the company 401K, DRIPS, and Stock Purchase Plan. I cannot believe many of my peers in my age group – have saved nothing for retirement. Their kids went to school with student loans (they qualified because they had no investments). We are on the same pay scale. They buy a new truck/car every year, while I drive mine until they fall apart.

So we both arrive at that retirement door (age 62 looks good) at the same time.

The saver: Has much income/investments
The spender: Has nothing

So if you “means” test us, I will take a cut in SS benefits, while the guy who saved nothing gets more?

How would you get less, Amway?? YOU will get your SSA benefit, PLUS the dividends from your investments… Your work buddies will only have their SSA benefit. They should end up with a LOT less monthly income than you will, because of your investment income…

Hud it means my hunt and peck is faster but only two fingers on r hand work and they wear out guickly.

Interesting that the only Democrat solutions are to raise taxes. NEVER, not once, has Federal Spending be cut. I say try that approach first, before going back to the old approach.

Busted Chas!!!

Busted ::!!!

Nice catch KSGRM.

(Wait for :: to post in all CAPS next!)

Steve I agree with Amway that while we were driving a 15 year old PU our neighbors and friends who got new vehicles every 3 years will draw more ss because they less savings,

Steve private accounts would be the answer for me also. This rewards those who actually work and doesn’t put the gove in the business of deciding who gets what.

Thanks Reg. Have 5 more weeks in cast. Might be left handed by then. Something like Blackberry thumb.

revere merely had a neat sounding name that would work great in prose.

ksgrm,

Actually, Chas posted the poem here, March 14, 10:06 pm,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-314/#comment-313440

Then :: re-posted it March 15, 7:31 am
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-315/#comment-313540

and commented that Chas had (past tense) a “good thought for the weekend”, at 7:32 am.

Not that I ever plan on seein’ a cent of SS, but isn’t it a ‘the more you pay in the more you draw out’ sorta deal?

I’ll probably be one of those who has to work until they die at the young age of 150

Ok, granny, I’ll admit that excuse can be contrived to be a tad bit lame considering that everything on this blog is SUPPOSED to be anonymous. But you gotta admit, compared to excuses coming out of this administration the last 6 years or so, that excuse does the 3 second 100 meter dash.

Ahhh but granny — I posted the poem first on FRIDAY… not Saturday!! Go look again… your eyes arent what they used to be!! LOL Just tooo darned funny!!

Chas did you get a call from Cosmos and ::? Get over it. You are fooling no one.

Yep, Steven. Such questions are legitimate– as questions–but some people seem to think they’re answers.

State Senator Obama had a public record. Maybe we should take a look at it.

You know, KsGrm/B***h/W*nch, I have just about had it with your self righteous arrogance… And especially since it’s HOLY WEEK… NOW EAT your freiggin words!!! >>>>

Chas.
Posted March 14, 2008 at 10:06 pm | Permalink
A poem by Rev. G. A. Studdert-Kennedy, titled:

“Indifference.”

When Jesus came to Golgotha
they hanged Him on a tree,
They drove great nails through hands and feet, and made a Calvary;
They crowned Him with a crown of thorns,
red were His wounds and deep,
For those were crude and cruel days,
and human flesh was cheap.

When Jesus came to our town,
they simply passed Him by,
They never hurt a hair of him,
they only let Him die;
For men had grown more tender,
and they would not give Him pain,
They only just passed down the street,
and left Him in the rain.

Still Jesus cried, “Forgive them,
for they know not what they do,”
And still it rained the winter rain
that drenched Him through and through;
The crowds went home and left the streets
without a soul to see,
And Jesus crouched against a wall
and cried for Calvary.

Oh yea!!

NOW — Smart A$$ — WHEN did I first post that wonderful poem??? And WHEN was iot that Square Peg later re-posted it??

And now WHO is it that is BUSTED???

Granny you arer a friggin phony!!!

Steven I said months ago there would be enough dirt in this election to make a 4 lane road from the east to west coast. Both sides of the aisle.

Unfortunately I haven’t been disapponted.

Rage, I remember something in the paper on a Bill Gates article. It alluded that donating %5 of your net worth provided exemptions from most taxes. The paper didn’t elaborate all the ins and outs. I just can’t help drool…If I donated 5% of my net worth the gov’t would be PAYING me big time. I’d just have a hard time figuring who’d need the two rolls of toilet paper.

I can’t really afford my 1/2 of the SS I pay in; no way I could kick in my employers share, too. I’d say a few more months and one more kid hits the streets (graduation), but the last one ended up costing me more money since he moved out. Seems they always forget to bring diapers when we watch the grandkids, are no longer at home, and we have to toodle to Wal-Mart.

GOOOO Hawks!!!!

Chas,

You could copy/paste something that ksgrm has posted, and then credit her for it — then the two of you will become the same person.

: :
Posted March 16, 2008 at 12:01 am | Permalink
Regular, you must have all kinds of delusional thinking.

Game, set, match. Double colon is chas. Two colons, same a$$hole.

Basketball – HOW ‘BOUT DEM DAWGS!?

Won TWO upsets yesterday to get to the SEC championship game today. Leading the razorbacks now. IF they can pull this game out they will be the Cinderella story of the Tournament.

Illinois is another possible for that role – but they didn’t have to overcome a double-header.

SOL??

Why dont you post the entire quote??? You chicken or something?? WHY do you guys have this really warped fetish about some other poster being ME???

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-315/#comment-313986

: :
Posted March 16, 2008 at 12:01 am | Permalink Regular, you must have all kinds of delusional thinking.

Game, set, match. Double colon is chas. Two colons, same a$$hole.

cosmos
Posted March 16, 2008 at 1:46 pm | Permalink
ksgrm,

Actually, Chas posted the poem here, March 14, 10:06 pm,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-314/#comment-313440

Then :: re-posted it March 15, 7:31 am
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-315/#comment-313540

and commented that Chas had (past tense) a “good thought for the weekend”, at 7:32 am.
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Just a coincidence….

Max,

Chas is not a Christian, so he has no standards to be held by but his own.

Okay, you may recognized the above as Max’s post from 2 days ago.

I admit it. . .sniff, sniff. . .I’m actually Max!

Will you ever forgive me, people?

/sarcasm

Say Nathan, read a good review of the Kimber 45 SIS in G & A this week.

Didn’t your Dad get a Kimber?

The Spingfield 45 XD Compact is calling me. Got my Fed refund, now I need to buy!

When I get my 2nd Fed refund in May, I’m lookin at a DPMS or similar type AR15.

308 or 223? THAT is the question!

Gotta buy now before Obama/Clinton ban everything.

Whether they can confiscate or not, that will be the question next year.

Supreme Court Case is this Tuesday!

Max,

I read the same article in G & A too.

Yeah, my dad has a Kimber.

My friend has several of the springfield XD’s. Traded all his glocks for them. He loves them.

I suppose it all depends on what you want to do with your rifle the most. I have a .223 simply because it is what I am most familiar with and also like the M4.

Keep in mind that .308 ammo is sooooo expensive. Then again, so is ammo period these days.

Or a technical error…

I admit it, I’m Max. /sarcasm OFF

Like I said last night.

Who cares if :: is really Chas or not. They both post the same stuff in almost the same exact way and :: basically serves as the Chas defender when Chas is conveniently no longer around.

They might not be the same poster, but with the way they post it doesn’t matter.

Might as well be the same exact poster.

Good to hear about the XD Nathan. Love the Glocks, so hopefully the XD will fit right in next to them. (I hope they get along with each other)

I was thinking the 308 for hunting as well as defense. Not sure I’d want a 223 for deer.

Agree on the ammo issue. Reloading soon will become a necessity anyway.

Like the Kimber except for the capacity and the cost. I suppose for the price, you could get a hi-cap Kimber. Para 13-45 or 14-45 would be my next 45, I think.

Ghof had to take a break but there would still be a contribution from employer as now only it would go into private accounts not accessible unless for retirement or death of employee. There would also have to be thought put into the death of young providers as we have now. How to finance, etc..?

Looks like KU has the Big 12 championship. Now if Georgia can just hang on …

Yup, agree on that point Nathan.

How many rounds in a 308? 30 per magazine in a 223, right?

It’s very telling the increase in ammo prices, gun prices, and how much is out-of-stock and on back order today.

The public knows what Clinton/Obama will do to our 2nd Amendment rights.

Or at least they are hedging Ben.

Good Question Sarah!!

“The John Birch Society was formed on December 9, 1958, in Indianapolis, Indiana. The group was named after Captain John Morrison Birch, a Baptist missionary in China during World War II. Birch was serving as an U.S. Army Air Force Intelligence officer when he was killed by Chinese Communists ten days after World War II had ended. The founder of the Society was Robert Welch, who started the group as a way to prevent the spread of Communism.

The John Birch Society also seeks the promotion of capitalism, patriotism, and the American system of government. The group also believes that the “the traditional moral values of our Judeo-Christian heritage form the cornerstone of Western Civilization.”

Source: The John Birch Society official website, http://www.jbs.org

Max’s Favorite Charity LOL

http://www.jbs.org/#SlideFrame_7

Sarah, it appears your second does not know either and I would really like to know what right I do not support.

Yes, the square peg/Chas poem. I pointed it out yesterday as well. :)

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-314/#comment-313440

Gun Sales Rise After Cheshire Home Invasion
Security Company Says Phones Ringing Off Hook

POSTED: 5:00 pm EDT July 26, 2007
UPDATED: 5:08 pm EDT July 26, 2007

NEWINGTON, Conn. — State gun sales have shot up in the days after the wife and two daughters of a prominent Connecticut physician were killed, according to a local gun shop owner.

Scott Hoffman runs Hoffman’s Gun Center on the Berlin Turnpike. In the past few days, following the triple homicide in Cheshire, Hoffman said that people have been rushing to his store to buy guns for themselves and their homes.

“They’re scared,” he said. “They’re scared for their own personal safety and their family’s safety, their children’s safety and they want a way to protect themselves.”

Hoffman said that the most popular weapon for both men and women looking to defend themselves is a defense-grade shotgun. Hoffman credited the gun’s popularity to the short waiting period — it can be obtained in two weeks as opposed to waiting 90 days for a pistol permit.

http://www.wfsb.com/news/13763446/detail.html

Yes Regular, where one is the other is sure to follow. And they are not the same person because Chas. would never tell a lie.

I do not know if Square Dick would lie or not.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmccarthyism.htm

Regular
Posted March 16, 2008 at 4:18 pm | Permalink
Yes, the square peg/Chas poem. I pointed it out yesterday as well.

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-314/#comment-313440
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Right James… And that was late FRIDAY night… Whats is your point??

You wont find this old body out of bed before 8 a.m., unless I have early Eucharist on a Sunday!! LOL

Square Peg is obviously an early bird!!

So, what the hell is your point??

Guns Manufactured in the US by Year

2004……..3,099,025
2005……..3,241,494
2006……..3,650,324

2005 was 4.6% higher then 2004.
2006 was 12.6% higher then 2005.

Didn’t see 2007 data yet.

From seeing prices rise in stores and online, and seeing numerous items out-of-stock and on backorder, 2007 would have to be very high.

I haven’t seen it like this since 1994 after the 1st Clinton gun ban.

Nathan, I think you underestimate the Obama/Clinton impact.

“You wont find this old body out of bed before 8 a.m., unless I have early Eucharist on a Sunday!! LOL
Square Peg is obviously an early bird!!
That’s funny. LOL funny.”

Square posted at 0731 (Blog time) and Chas. posted at 0735 (Blog time) on Saturday. Four minutes makes Square an early riser?

You know, if all you people have to do in life is follow me or other posters around on the Blog, and invent your flights of fantasy… You are most to be pitied… I really do feel sorry for you losers!!

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Wow! Why are gun sales so high? Since it is for the year it could not be the elections. Or could it?

And…as Hud intimated, the Hillary/Obama uncertainty principle…

…they get elected, look for the new Marshals in town try to put a squish on gun sales via executive order.

The big increase was in handguns, if you check out my links above.

The perfect self defense gun, and the one most likely to be banned by Clinton/Obama.

Shoot — Go Big or Stay Home —- here’s the Nathan wish list for xmas :

http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.assault-weapons-for-sale.html

I saw the Barrett Rifle on the Discovery Channel. Awesome weapon. (The show with the ex-Navy Seal)

Max to be honest I do not trust either party now to safeguard my 2nd amendment right. As I noted here before, one of my best friends deals very closely with gun sales and he told me that there seem a concerted effort on the BATF part to limit and drive out of business places that sell firearms. This is not under a Democrat it is under Bush what ever he is! The good news is that upon an appeal of the citations that were issued to the business my friend works for. All were dismissed and his boss was told that he could once again sale guns. But he has choose not to as the BATF had made it clear their intent to continue to harass him.

LOL I would go with the 308, though I now have a 7.62X54 got to love that knock down power. The 223 biggest sales point was the magazine capacity, but I agree with Nathan in that taking down something as large as a deer. You want more knock down rather then penetration, the 308 would do more ruminate damage while still penetrating. The 223 might just go through and then you end up following a wounded deer till it bleeds out.

AW, this may sound strange but I do not think that allowing the ordinary citizens full automatics is something I could agree with. CCP is sound enough and it could help but there really is no need for everyone to have a full auto.

Guess either would work well.

Dyslexics support our 2nd amendment right to arm bears.

Second the call for thread.

Max’s Favorite Charity LOL

http://www.jbs.org/#SlideFrame_7

IS there ANY rational reason for anyone to own a fully automatic weapon?

Really bad shot hunter?

REALLY give it to the range target?

Paranoid anti society kook?

So how was your Palm Sunday Chas?

Were you fanned with palm leaves?

Did you eat dates and slap some camel fanny?

What was your weather like? Clear, rainy, cold, cloudy?

How many times was your refrigerator door opened and closed?

(chortles)

Nathan, you and your dogs do just fine with the sheep!! LOL

Jesus did say, “I am the Good Shepherd”

MOST people who vote Republican also are little more than sheep.

Max,

I bought my M4 right after the ban expired just in case.

Yep preachers like Rod Parseley, and John Hagee, and pastors of the Christian Identity movement, and pastors with Aryan Nations. Then throw in “preachers” like Farakahn, and you really got a wide spectrum of fringe nut cases…

And 2008, you been in a gun shop lately?

They are selling out of many guns. The most popular sell the same day they get in.

Prices are increasing, so now is a good time to buy!

Max,

I buy my guns from a dealer in Derby. He doesn’t operate a “store.”

I do go down to the range at the bulletstop though.

They never carry the guns I want anyhow. I’m a big HK guy.

Hey Nathan?

A little advice?

Put down the gun. Put down the Bible.

Kiss a girl. Get laid even.

Otherwise in a few years you are gonna be “Max”/James.

And yet he cries when his profession is attacked.

If he’d stop bringing it up and pretending to be the resident ‘expert’ nobody would criticize his ‘religious’ views.

Nobody but you and nathan and your sock puppets criticize my views… Maybe you need to look into your own critical comments a bit closer…. You might even find you are wrong most of the time!!

Policy

Although The Wichita Eagle is not responsible for the content of the comments on this blog and has no obligation to monitor them, it reserves the right to remove any comments that are threatening, libelous, obscene or otherwise objectionable.

Please refrain from personal attacks and using other posters’ nicknames. Report possible comment violations to weblog@wichitaeagle.com.
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Nuff said :-|

(chortles and smirks)

“Max’s Favorite Charity LOL
http://www.jbs.org/#SlideFrame_7”

Hey Chas,
Did you know the Koch’s grand-daddy was a founding member of the John Birch Society?

[I will never forget my father being incensed that the John Birch Society called John F. Kennedy a communist]

Did you know that Wichita was the home (for a time) of L. Ron Hubbard? [those folks are always trying to find the writings of the man while he was here - maybe we could forge some documents and make some money...]

I’m telling you there is something wrong with the water in this town.

To Obama supporters,

I could just as easily be one of you.

If Obama had not said what he said about working with Republicans.

As we see here, as we see at large, Republicans cannot be worked with. They cannot even be reasoned with.

Obama has enjoyed and benefited from the media love affair with him. But now that is coming home to haunt him. The same media that built him up is now tearing him down. And how much more is there that will come to light?

This is OUR election to win. Let’s us not even think about working with the enemy. Let’s make them work with us and on our terms.

Take BACK this nomination process before it is too late.

Steven, I recall there was a Wichita connection to the John Birchers… I did NOT know about Hubbard… but not surprising… And yes, I have wondered about the water!! LOL And I grew up on the River, too!! But we only used city water part of the time… we had our own well too…

Say Chas, this didn’t come from me:

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Chas.
Posted March 11, 2008 at 12:11 am | Permalink
This looks interesting >>>>

Hillary, hiding something? Why never!

Tax records, where are they? They got lost just like the FBI files got lost! Go figure!

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/16/obama-team-presses-clinton-on-ethics/

Obama communications director Robert Gibbs called on Clinton to release full post-White House tax returns; disclose all congressional “earmarks,” or pet projects she had inserted into spending bills; and to release all documents pertaining to activities to the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Library, including a list of donors.

“What is lurking in those documents?” Gibbs asked as the two campaigns had dueling phone conference calls with reporters. “There are gaps that need to be filled,” said senior Obama strategist David Axelrod.

Now why would the authorities speculate that Clinon’s Library Builder, John Glasgow, committed suicide?

(Vince Foster, Vince Foster, Vince Foster)

Naw, Hillary has nothing to hide.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,338294,00.html

Clinton Library Builder’s CFO Disappears Amid Audit
Sunday, March 16, 2008

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — John Glasgow had a healthy salary, with an opportunity to pick up stock in the construction company where he worked. He was the kind of guy who paid back a $500 bonus he got for completing an anti-smoking program because he started to light up again.

But now Glasgow has been missing since Jan. 28, with his car found abandoned the next day, and family and police say it’s impossible to tell whether he killed himself, was abducted or left to start a new life elsewhere.

Maybe I should post that Obituary again, just so thinking people can see what you are ranting against every day…. eh Max??

Neither have you Chas.

HA HA HA HA HA HA

Re-post it you sick freak, in the ORIGINAL FORMAT.

You know, the one with James’ name in bold.

Busted “Max”

Told ya.

Damn I wish I could stick around to see the meltdown.

Shucks JR, you just missed the meltdown.

LOL

IF Max is McCluer, then he has to live with that – and that would be a tough one to live with – maybe even a cause for #@#$cide.

But, since Max is probably just Max, let’s just assume that he isn’t as stupid and self-righteous as McCluer and let it go at that…….

(chortles, smirks and laughs)

Anyway, this has been a great day – a friend of my son-in-law bought a cherry ‘76 Cutlass today – a “found it in a barn” story, great deal, lovely car, rides like a dream.

Let’s be happy for someone and something.

(chortles and burps)

Max
Posted March 16, 2008 at 11:18 pm | Permalink
Yeah Davis, you be lily white innocent yourself.

Your point is, Mr. Max? Please elaborate, kind sir…

Max
Posted March 16, 2008 at 11:13 pm | Permalink
Neither have you Chas.

HA HA HA HA HA HA
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What is this a reference to, Max?? It makes no sense at all!! Kool aid too strong??

Leftist Rads obsessed with me, even when I’m not online.

How sweet. :)

Go for it, JR!!

Well, its been a long weekend… And now Holy Week is upon us….

Good night; Good luck; and
God bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!

Blessings All!!

Hosanna in the Highest!!

There’[s no conflict in that statement, Nathan, except for when fools cant read!!

NATHAN… READ S L O W L Y…. I DIDNT BOLD IT… I DONT KNOW HOW IT CAME OUT THAT WAY.. I DONT KNOW HOW IT CAME OUT BOLDED… NOW, ANY OTHER STUPID QUESTIONS???

I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH POSTING IT… BOLDED OR ANY OTHER WAY… IT IS SUCH A STUPID THING FOR ANYBODY TO BE UPSET OVER SOMETHING THAT DOESNT EVEN CONCERN THEM!! BUT, THATS THE WAY REICH WINGERS ARE!!

Chas,

Here is the conflict.

1. You said you did not bold anything.

- In fact, you did bold the name.

2. You then say “and what if I did?”

-What is the point in making a claim that you didn’t do something and then trying to shrug it off “if” you did when you just claimed you didn’t.

-That is the conflict.

Nathan, What If is normally understood to be a hypothetical??? As in…. So what if it was bolded…. And once again… Read it carefully this time… Each Letter …

I DID NOT BOLD ANYTHING… I SIMPLY HIGHLIGHTED, AND COPIED, AND POSTED!!! THATS ALL… HOW IT GOT BOLDED, I HAVE NO CLUE!!

NATHAN, YOU OFTEN POST AS “HANK” AND PASS IT OFF AS A COMPUTER GLITCH… SHALL WE CHALLENGE YOU EVERY TIME YOU POST AS HANK, AND THEN SAY IT WAS YOURS BUT YOU DONT KNOW WHY IT HAPPENS???

SO JUST STFU ABOUT GLITCHES, EH??? YOU GOT NO ROOM TO COMPLAIN!!

Oh yea, Happy St. Paddy’s Day, too!!

Good night Blasphemer.

No Max sorry for the confusion, I have a Russian sniper rifle I was more talking ammo.

Nathan basically for the same reasons that we restricted ownership in the first place. Yes if you jump the hoops and get a class A from the Feds. As was alluded to, not everyone that could would be responsible with them. Even with the present system there are still some loose canons get full automatics. And while in OKLA, I backed OHP on a call. Through the state’s weird jurisdiction calls, they were going on a burglary call out on the highway. The short of it was in an abandoned pick-up we found a British sterns, full clip and full auto. They told me it might explain why lately there had been a growing number of roadside deer slayings. Deer were being found with up to twenty nine millimeter rounds in them! But one the house was cleared the OHP troopers left saying it did not involve the truck and it was turned over to Grady County S.O. I was left outside waiting for them. The deputy who showed up ended up taking the weapon ( I have my doubt the gun was turned in), I have to admit it was a concern setting in that patrol car with him and that weapon. Terry knew nothing about full autos and was flipping the weapon end over end looking it over!
I asked if it was loaded? “How the heck should I know?, he said. I took it from him, ejected the clip and emptied the chamber. It was fully loaded and a round in the chamber, my point being that such weapons have only two practical needs and at this point neither are present. Sorry just because you and I would like to have one does not entitle us to have one. Back in the day I never found one while in law enforcement, close once but the deal fell through.

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