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Yep, it’s an open thread…
Right here, waiting for something to be posted.
So, I did…
Ponderings for Palm Sunday >>>>
A poem by Rev. G. A. Studdert-Kennedy, titled:
“Indifference.”
When Jesus came to Golgotha
they hanged Him on a tree,
They drove great nails through hands and feet, and made a Calvary;
They crowned Him with a crown of thorns,
red were His wounds and deep,
For those were crude and cruel days,
and human flesh was cheap.
When Jesus came to our town,
they simply passed Him by,
They never hurt a hair of him,
they only let Him die;
For men had grown more tender,
and they would not give Him pain,
They only just passed down the street,
and left Him in the rain.
Still Jesus cried, “Forgive them,
for they know not what they do,”
And still it rained the winter rain
that drenched Him through and through;
The crowds went home and left the streets
without a soul to see,
And Jesus crouched against a wall
and cried for Calvary.
Oh yea!!
I think Chas. had a good thought for the weekend. The poet is an early 20th Century British Clergyman, of the Anglican tradition.
May you all have a nice, and thoughtful weekend!
Why thank you square peg/Chas!
You entered the identical poem on another thread here:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/open-thread-314/#comment-313440
Coincidence?
I think not.
(chortles)
Thanks Square Peg…
I hope all of us can benefit from your wish for the weekend!
Puts on K.C. and the Sunshine Band song,
“That’s the way we like it!”
That’s the way, uh huh uh huh, I like it..
That’s the way, uh huh uh huh, I like it..
That’s the way, uh huh uh huh, I like it..
That’s the way, uh huh uh huh, I like it..
Speaking of England >>>>
In a cemetery in England:
Remember man, as you walk by,
as you are now, so once was I.
As I am now, so shall you be.
Remember this and follow me.
To which someone replied by writing on the tombstone:
To follow you, I’ll not consent
until I know which way you went.
“Play that Funky Music, White Boy!”
Wild Cherry 1976
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmH61C8cmG8&feature=related
er wrong date
I’m gonna hit myself with a big long rod
So I can be closer to my god.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/14/AR2008031403887.html?hpid=topnews
War Stories Echo an Earlier Winter
The parking lot of the National Labor College in Silver Spring, Md. was a crossroads of discontent Friday. Soldiers and veterans for and against the Iraq war had something to say about testimony offered during a hearing sponsored by Iraq Veterans Against the War.
Grim-faced and sorrowful, former soldiers and Marines sat before an audience of several hundred yesterday in Silver Spring and shared their recollections of their service in Iraq.
The stories spilled out, sometimes haltingly, sometimes in a rush: soldiers firing indiscriminately on Iraqi vehicles, an apartment building filled with Iraqi families devastated by an American gunship. Some descriptions were agonized, some vague; others offered specific dates and locations. All were recorded and streamed live to the Web.
The four-day event, “Winter Soldier: Iraq & Afghanistan — Eyewitness Accounts of the Occupations,” is sponsored by Iraq Veterans Against the War and is expected to draw more than 200 veterans of the two wars through tomorrow. Timed for the eve of the fifth anniversary of the war’s start next week, organizers hope the soldiers’ accounts will galvanize public opposition.
For some of the veterans speaking yesterday, the experience was catharsis.
Former Marine Jon Turner began his presentation by ripping his service medals off his shirt and tossing them into the first row. He then narrated a series of graphic photographs showing bloody victims and destruction, bringing gasps from the audience. In a matter-of-fact voice, he described episodes in which he and fellow Marines shot people out of fear or retribution.
“I’m sorry for the hate and destruction I’ve inflicted upon innocent people,” Turner said. “Until people hear about what is happening in this war, it will continue.”
******
First they get savaged by their experiences in Iraq. Then they come home and get savaged by the right-wing for speaking the troops.
“Support the troops!” unless of course they are against the war, then destroy them by any means necessary . . .
“And I see no bravery
No bravery
In your eyes anymore
Only sadness.”
Former British soldier James Blunt
I bet if I hung around those 200 ex GI’s, I would find that they where the “whiners and complainers” who happened to be in the military and got out.
Anyone who has been in the military knows exactly what I’m talking about.
These are the guys that bitch and moan about everything then get out and become even bigger whiners.
They weren’t liked when they were in the military and the only ‘love’ they get are from their fellow whiners in these Whining Societies like the Iraq Veterans Against the War.
Well, it’s a good thing – put all the losing whiners in one basket so we can keep an eye on them.
News from our statehouse: March 13th. Day 59
GOVERNOR CRITICIZES G.O.P. ACTION ON HEALTH CARE
Gov. Sebelius has expressed frustration with Republican lawmakers who rejected a plan to give poor families subsidies to help them buy insurance. Sebelius, a Democrat, said the Legislature has spent a lot of time and money in recent years to produce a set of recommended reforms from the Kansas Health Policy Authority, which are now getting killed. The Health Policy Authority was formed by the Legislature as a free standing agency after Sebelius tried to create it in an existing agency. The Authority was tasked with health care reform and expansion of access to health insurance for Kansans. They have held hearings around the state and with stakeholders in the state health care system and formulated some recommendations for action. So far this session, the suggestions have been pretty much rejected or ignored.
Sebelius told the Lawrence Journal-World, “We’re going to have at the end of the day, I’m afraid, little to show for it unless the
Legislature rolls up their sleeves and gets to work.” On Monday, the
Senate Health Care Strategies Committee rejected a program for assistance to low-income families to buy private insurance. The plan had been approved last year, and was set to take effect in January 2009.
But now, facing the first state expenditures on the program, some committee members said more study was needed. Instead, Republican leaders have embraced expansion of HealthWave, a low-cost insurance program that covers children of working-class families, but tied expansion of state investment only if the gridlock on the issue in Congress ends.
Sebelius said Republicans are changing their tune by calling on the Kansas Health Policy Authority to come up with health reform recommendations, and then abandoning those recommendations. Legislative leaders also have dismissed a KHPA recommendation to increase the state cigarette tax by 50 cents per pack. And a proposed statewide smoking ban is bottled up in committee. In addition, Sebelius noted that her previous proposals to expand health care to youngsters have been ignored by the Republican Legislature. She said she would meet with legislative leaders to determine “where in the world they are.”
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So says the guy from the motor pool.
The only explosions you heard were from the latrine.
Don’t worry about Regular “tearing off his service medals and throwing them to the crowd.”
He doesn’t have any.
So… when max wants to whine about how little is done in congress, will someone remind her about the republicans and this do-nothing kansas legislature?
TYIA
Yeah Capn, I don’t have three purple hearts like Kerry for getting a rice pellet from an exploding rice cooker in my buttocks.
You also didn’t get a silver star for reaching over the side of a boat and hauling a wounded guy to safety with the enemy shooting at you.
News from our Statehouse: Day 61 Yesterday, 14 March:
HEALTH CARE REFORM ON THE INSTALLMENT PLAN
The House Health & Human Services Committee, on a 11 to 10 vote, rejected the original contents of Senate bills 540 and 541, which contained several key elements of the 21-point reform package assembled by the Kansas Health Policy Authority (KHPA) and crafted a bill that reform on the installment plan. Two Republicans voted with the Democrats on the committee, resulting in a 10-10 tie that was broken when the chairwoman cast her vote against it.
Yesterday, the committee rejected the work of the KHPA, who was tasked by the Legislature to listen to medical providers, patients, and the citizens of Kansas to come up with a list of thoughtful recommendations. The Authority’s recommendations have been endorsed by 85 different organizations across the state that are stakeholders in our state health care system. One of the committee members who supported amending the bill to substitute the Authority’s proposals said, “And here we are, giving that up for what amounts to scratching out health policy on the back of an envelope.”
Rep. Brenda Landwehr, the Wichita Republican who chairs the committee, said she had been informed by the Speaker that the House won’t adjourn today until the committee returns the bill so it can be read in for debate on Tuesday. She said the committee would wrap up the bill and vote it out as the House stands in recess, awaiting delivery. “The intention of the Speaker is to run this bill on the House floor Tuesday,” Landwehr said. Suddenly there is a rush to do something about health care reform so legislators can say they addressed what is the top concern of many Kansans.
There were several amendments packed into a single motion without much information or the opportunity for public input. One amendment would require Medicaid recipients who smoke, are obese or use drugs to change their ways or lose access to “expanded benefits” under the program, subject to federal law and Medicaid participation requirements.
But the language inserted in the bill was significantly watered down from its original version, removing the requirement that a doctor certify a recipient’s progress in order for benefits to be maintained.
The committee spent almost an hour debating whether an amendment requiring employers to let their employee pay their health insurance premiums with pretax dollars represented a mandate. Democrats argued that it did; Republicans said the inconvenience to employers would be minimal. “Why should we mandate something employers can do on their own?” asked Rep. Cindy Neighbor, D-Shawnee. That amendment ultimately passed.
Deliberations also bogged down over an amendment creating a new legislative panel called the Kansas Healthy Futures Committee to study health policy issues such as medical workforce problems. Rep. Landwehr said the new committee would allow more legislators to take part in the state’s health reform debate. But Democrats, who were joined by some Republicans, said it was unnecessary, and duplicative of the work and expense of the KHPA. “The last thing my constituents want to hear is that we’ve set up yet another committee to tell us what to do,” said Rep. Tom Holland, D-Baldwin.
Among the things excluded from the bill were an expanded premium assistance program or any expansion of the state’s insurance program for low-income children, which has been endorsed by a Senate Health committee. Landwehr said she was opposed to the premium assistance program because, “it’s not affordable. It doesn’t cover the people who really need it, and the safety net clinics can do that . . .If you give $4 million to the safety net clinics, it’s incredible what they can do with $4 million.”
Some things the bill does:
It requires employers that pay for health insurance coverage to also provide Section 125 plans and require insurance carriers to offer Section 125 plans.
It extends insurance coverage to employees who are eligible for continuing benefits under the COBRA rule from six months to 18 months.
It would increase the lifetime benefit under the high risk insurance pool from $1.0 million to $3.0 million.
It includes include hospital based clinics in the definition of Primary Care Safety Net Clinic and allow the Dept. of Health & Environment to
enter into contracts with hospital based clinics to act as primary
care safety net clinics.
It would require Medicaid beneficiaries to enroll in wellness programs if they smoke, are obese, or abuse drugs. If after two years the beneficiary does not make progress, the beneficiary shall receive only the minimum federal assistance authorized. If after three years there is no progress, the beneficiary would be removed from the Medicaid program altogether.
It would allow a refundable income tax credit for individuals for amounts paid for providing health insurance or care in the form of a health benefit plan and amounts contributed to health savings accounts.
For any individual who establishes a health benefit plan after December 31, 2008, the amount of the credit would be $35 per month or 50%, whichever is less, of the total amount paid toward the health benefit plan for the first two years. In subsequent years, the credit would be reduced until it reaches zero by the sixth year.
It would allow individuals to subtract all of the cost of qualified health insurance premiums from federally adjusted gross income.
It require the appointment of a legislative study committee during the
2008 interim to study and review the establishment of individual and small employer reinsurance program. The bill would be effective for tax years beginning after December 31, 2008.
According to KHPA, the Medicaid changes in HB 2934 would risk a loss of Medicaid funding by placing the Kansas Medicaid State Plan in violation of federal law. The bill would require Medicaid beneficiaries to participate in a wellness program to improve their health conditions related to obesity, drug use, or smoking. Medicaid eligibility is determined by a combination of income and/or functional guidelines determined by states with federal limitations. The federal law does not allow states to limit eligibility for a certain group of beneficiaries based on criteria other than income or functional guidelines. If Kansas Medicaid restricts eligibility in ways that are inconsistent with federal rules, federal funds can be withdrawn from the program. This could result in a loss of more than $1.3 billion in federal funding for health care.
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Did you note: Socialized medicine WILL penalize Americans who do not live healthy lifestyles. Government WILL decide who gets care and at what cost – based upon the government standard definition of “healthy lifestyle”.
One final post on the healthcare issue. This is information our legislature was provided as they examine and debate legislation so related:
Some statistics of interest
Information from a 2007 survey conducted by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research Educational Trust found that 60% of businesses with three or more employees offered their employees health care benefits. The average total premium in 2007 was about $4,500 for a single plan and about $12,100 for a family plan. A single plan employee paid about $700 for health benefits, a family plan employee paid about $3,300 for health benefits and the employer paid the balance. So approximately 60% of Kansas taxpayers have health insurance through their employer, 15% have no health insurance, and the remaining 25% percent have private insurance. Using tax year 2006 income tax data, approximately 16% of all Kansas taxpayers will have no taxable income, so this deduction would have no effect for them. About 26% of Kansas taxpayers would be able to use only about 50% of this deduction, which leaves about 71% of health premiums that could be deducted. Kansas residents deducted about $538.0 million in medical and dental expenses on their tax year 2005 federal returns and are estimated to have itemized deductions for medical and dental expenses in 2009 of about $630 million. The March 2007 National Compensation Survey indicates that nearly 40% of private industry employees participate in health savings accounts or flexible spending accounts.
About 89% of Kansans have health insurance. That’s better than many states. Still, more than 300,000 Kansans are uninsured.
A report by the Kansas Health Institute provides an overview of important trends in health insurance coverage as well as a profile of the uninsured. Drawing on the most recent data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey (CPS), this report provides an overview of important trends in coverage as well as a portrait of the uninsured. In general, the most recent data indicate a continuation of trends that have characterized health insurance in Kansas in recent years. But they also indicate that some of those trends may be changing.
The data show that poverty is on the rise as is the percentage of Kansas adults who are uninsured. Also, a steady decline in the percentage of uninsured children has been interrupted. Future surveys will show whether the percentage of children who lack coverage is increasing. The percentage of children covered through a parent’s or guardian’s employment-based insurance appears to have declined from 66.6% in
2004–2005 to 63% in 2005–2006. Children’s enrollment in Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) declined in State Fiscal Year 2007 (SFY07) after steadily increasing for several years. According to the KHPA, enrollment was dampened by new citizenship documentation required by the federal Defi cit Reduction Act of 2005. Although only one undocumented applicant was identified, the application process was slowed and many recipients were put off by the requirement to provide birth certificates, etc. And, The percentage of adult Kansans who are uninsured increased significantly to 15.5% in 2005–2006, up from a six-year low of 13.5% in 2002–2003. Why is this happening? Well one reason is that poverty is on the rise in Kansas.
The number of uninsured Kansans
living in poverty increased significantly to 95,140 in 2005–2006, up from 68,602 in 2000–2001.
For more information, see http://www.khi.org/s/index.cfm?aid=1137
Here is a profile of the uninsured Kansan:
? Approximately 307,000 Kansans are uninsured.
? 17% of the uninsured in Kansas are children under the age of 19, about 51,000 children.
? Almost half (47%) of the uninsured in Kansas are young adults age 19–34.
? Most of the 251,000 uninsured adults in Kansas are workers, with 80% working at least part of the year. 44% of uninsured adults work full-time, year-round.
? About one-fourth of the 251,000 uninsured adults in Kansas work for employers with fewer than 10 employees and one-fourth work for employers with 500+ employees.
? Most uninsured Kansans (about 60%) are low-income, but the remaining 40% are middle-income or above, with family incomes at or above 200% ? Minorities are disproportionately represented among the uninsured.
For example, 18% of uninsured Kansans are Hispanic, but only 7% of all Kansans are Hispanic.
Pragmatic Incremental steps to improve the health care system can lay the foundation for comprehensive reform that provides health care coverage for all. Comprehensive reforms enacted in Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine and San Francisco were, in large part, the result of pragmatic incremental steps those states had already taken. For example, a Families USA report discusses the many reforms Massachusetts put in place over the years that led to its comprehensive 2006 reform. Kansas is not as far as other states in moving comprehensive health care reform, but each state does have numerous options for increasing access to coverage, reducing the growth of health care costs, and improving the quality of care. Achieving incremental successes can also build public support for broader reform. For example, as a first step to universal access to coverage, states like Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin have built health care programs to cover all kids. The Wall Street Journal referred to all-kids’ programs as universal health care on the “installment plan” and has counseled Republicans in Congress and the Bush Administration to oppose broad expansion of SCHIP, believing it is a first step towards health-care-for-all Americans.
The incremental and pragmatic steps states can take now to address health care access, costs and quality include continuing to expand coverage through well-established programs like Medicaid and SCHIP, especially for children, as a first step toward broader coverage.
Governor Sebelius has proposed covering all children birth to five with health insurance. States are also working to shore-up existing employer coverage through both employer mandates and public-private partnerships to help fund coverage. Funds for these measures are coming from everything from federal matching funds to taxes on unhealthy products like tobacco to closing corporate tax loopholes. And, in order to assure affordability of coverage, states are enacting reforms to protect individual and group access to health care coverage and to limit profiteering by insurance companies. More broadly, a range of measures are being used to contain care costs throughout the health care system so that saved money can then be used to expand coverage. While these measures are most effective when enacted together as part of a truly comprehensive reform, enacting any of them helps lay the groundwork for future broader changes in the health care system.
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For example, 18% of uninsured Kansans are Hispanic, but only 7% of all Kansans are Hispanic.
but, but, but…American Way!
What are you implying? :)
(chortles)
Click the link for some creepy third-world kind of artwork from the Obama camp.
CHANGE
http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/changeobama.jpg
“What are you implying?”
Trying not to imply anything. Just the notes I have from the daily session.
Hey Regular, on the statehouse posts I try real hard to not allow my personal opinions to sway my writing. Rather I am attempting to “record and report”. Admittedly, I am not always successful.
I’m sorry for the long posts, without links. But many of the issues being debated are ones I’ve read on the WEBLOG as of interest to bloggers here. Since not all the daily information our legislature is hearing, saying, and acting on makes it into newsprint, I thought I’d share.
News from our Statehouse March 12th:
TAX BREAK FOR SOME SENIORS
The House Taxation Committee held hearings about HB 2928, which would provide a tax benefit to about 900 Kansas senior citizens per year. Eligible seniors could defer paying their property taxes.
The bill is aimed at helping elderly Kansans on fixed incomes who face an unanticipated financial hardship. Rep. Tom Holland, D-Baldwin City, a proponent of the bill, said, “It is imperative that we do everything within our powers to avoid having Kansas seniors literally taxed out of their homes.” Holland has been working on the measure for several years. The Douglas County Treasurer Paula Gilchrist and Douglas County Director of Taxation and Accounting Stacy Kurtz testified in favor of the bill. “We find that many (senior citizens) go without medicine, food and their basic needs in order to pay real estate taxes and stay in their homes,” Gilchrist and Kurtz stated in written testimony to the House Tax Committee.
Under the bill, homeowners 65 or older with a household income of less than $60,000 per year could apply for a tax deferment from the Kansas Department of Revenue. They would have to live in the house and not receive any income from the property. If the person qualifies, the state would pay a portion or all of the tax bill. When the person died or sold their home, then the state would recover its taxes from the estate. The Revenue Department has estimated that approximately 900 people would qualify each year with an average property tax bill of $1,200 each. An individual tax deferment could not accumulate to more than 50% of the value of the home. In the event of a death, the deferment of taxes could continue for the surviving spouse under certain conditions.
The measure was supported by AARP Kansas and the Unified Government of Wyandotte County. Several committee members asked if the bill would supplant private lenders from offering reverse mortgages to seniors.
George Lippincott, an AARP volunteer, said Kansans shouldn’t be forced “to expend significant resources to address an unexpected and sudden government imposed tax increase to enhance the bottom line of commercial entities.”
The committee took no action on the bill but indicated it would continue to consider the legislation.
(While I will admit some seniors are financially strapped, and this plan would provide seniors some relief, leadership should consider the overall impact of measures which provide preferential tax relief for certain classes of citizens. Leaders should also not be driven by political motives (re-election) and they should consider the future of Kansas. The immediate downside of this legislation is that the loss in immediate revenue, will eventually force higher rates for all citizens. The impact will be greater
with our aging population. Young people are fleeing the state and 77 million boomers are aging. Without corresponding cuts in spending, the remaining workforce will certainly have to make up the shortfall.)
“Former Marine Jon Turner began his presentation by ripping his service medals off his shirt and tossing them into the first row. He then narrated a series of graphic photographs showing bloody victims and destruction, bringing gasps from the audience. In a matter-of-fact voice, he described episodes in which he and fellow Marines shot people out of fear or retribution.”
Looks like Jon is padding his resume in preparation for a Senate run in Massachusetts!
He learned everything he knows from John Kerry…
The Republican love for our troops is SO touching in its conditionality and hypocrisy…
(this is like throwing a kitten into a pen full of rabid pitbulls)
Bush Advisers Expect ‘I Told You So’ Legacy By Kenneth T. Walsh
Fri Mar 14, 4:08 PM ET
As they assess his legacy, White House advisers are more confident than ever that historians will eventually see the wisdom of President Bush’s most controversial policies, even if Congress wouldn’t go along during his time in office. In fact, a senior administration official says Bush will be known for leading the “I-told-you-so presidency.”
Among the areas where he will be proved correct, the official adds, are Social Security, for which he pushed partial privatization but was rebuffed by Congress, and immigration, where he advocated a stronger border security and a “path to citizenship” for illegal workers but was also rejected.
“These problems will be much tougher to solve in the future,” the aids tells U.S. News, arguing that the country would have been far better off if all sides had accepted Bush’s ideas when he first proposed them. Similarly, Bush and his advisers are confident that history will view the invasion of Iraq as a wise move that eventually brought stability to the region. The senior official predicted that “people will realize he was right on a lot of these fronts.”
(Here is kitten number two you beasts!)
White House Blames Media for Bush Low Ratings By Kenneth T. Walsh
Thu Mar 13, 6:30 PM ET
White House officials have a new theory about why President Bush’s job approval ratings are so low–the media keep harping on it so much that it’s become a self-fulfilling analysis.
“It’s a drumbeat in the media,” says a senior Bush adviser. “It’s a constant narrative that he suffers from low job approval. It should not be in the second paragraph of every story. The media should report what he’s doing.”
Officials are pointing to new survey research by GOP pollster Ed Goeas of the Tarrance Group to make their point that many of Bush’s policies are very popular. That data were obtained by U.S. News and are described in the magazine coming out Monday. Among the findings: While 62 percent of likely voters disapprove of Bush’s job performance, 73 percent support his policy of going “on the offense against terrorists,” 65 percent agree that he has “kept Americans safe from terrorist attacks,” and 64 percent approve of his economic stimulus package passed by Congress earlier this year.
Nathan
Posted March 15, 2008 at 1:29 am | Permalink
Max,
I know it is late, but if you get this in the morning or later, so be it.
Don’t be fooled by Chas’s answer. He left a huge condition on his answer. “For Christians”
Once again, Chas gets around the questions.
They were meant to be a universal truth question, not an “only for Christians” question.
He basically eluded the questions once more.
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Some people are just never sastisfied!! LOL
I was watching a Bill Maher DVD, The Decider wherein he says that when it comes to Bush, America has “F**K-UP fatigue”. When we hear that he as done something more stupid than before, we go “Oh well, what’d ya expect?”
I believe he is correct in that observation, which is pretty messed up, if you ask me.
You mean like yesterday’s comment about the war being “romantic”???
“as done” should be “has done”
Didn’t hear about that one, Chas, but I am betting it was a perfect example of the fatigue producing idiocy eminating from the mouth of Bush.
Oh yea… it was all of that… I about fell out of my chair whewn I heard that ohe!! LOL
Yes, Bush said that serving in Afghanistan was “exciting and romantic.”
Let’s ask Pat Tillman what he thinks?
Pat? Was it exciting and romantic serving in Afghanistan?
No answer.
Gee, how can it be romantic, if your own guys are shooting at ya?? LOL Bush is a total joke!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjvNSpsPu1k
If memory serves, bush had the opportunity to serve during wartime.
Linda, they arent showing Big 12 Tourn. here on ESPN 2… They are showing ESPN News instead… bummer!!
writerdog
Posted March 15, 2008 at 12:06 pm
White House officials have a new theory about why President Bush’s job approval ratings are so low–the media keep harping on it so much that it’s become a self-fulfilling analysis.
“It’s a drumbeat in the media,” says a senior Bush adviser. “It’s a constant narrative that he suffers from low job approval. It should not be in the second paragraph of every story. The media should report what he’s doing.”
AND WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE CONGRESS EVEN LOWER APPROVAL RATING?
NEITHER ARE DOING WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT!
“White House officials have a new theory about why President Bush’s job approval ratings are so low”
It could be the media – or then again, it could be that George W Bush is the worst president ever and people have realized that after the 2004 elections.
“It could be the media – or then again, it could be that George W Bush is the worst president ever and people have realized that after the 2004 elections.”
Does it follow then that the reason for the Congress even lower approval rating that the congress “is the worst CONGRESS ever?
Brilliant.
If the approval rating of Congress is lower than the President, then I say we listen to the President!
“Does it follow then that the reason for the Congress even lower approval rating that the congress”
The reason that Congress has such low approval rating is that they have failed to end the failed Bush War of Choice on Iraq, Wrong Angle.
Unfortunately, Bush can’t seem to realize that the country hasn’t bought his Mission Accomplished charade and he still vetoes any bill that would lead to an end to this disastrous war.
The Dems do not have enough sane votes to override a presidential veto.
But wait until next January.
End of story.
“If the approval rating of Congress is lower than the President, then I say we listen to the President!”
Point one – three separate but equal branches of government.
Point two – see above.
Point three – Bush is a warmongering wannabe.
Point four – your comment is totally at odds with the usual “Bush is CIC” argument that we hear from Republicans.
Point five – in the case of George WMD Bush, CIC means “Clown in Chief.”
“Approval of congressional Democrats stands at 43 percent, twice that of Congress in general. The flip side, however, is that Democrats who control Congress still face a disapproval rating of 51 percent, a figure that has increased 11 percentage points since March.
“‘The ratings for Congress overall have been mired in the mid- to low 20s for several months, but for most of the year, Americans have had a positive view of the Democrats in Congress,”" said CNN polling director Keating Holland. ‘That’s not true any longer — this poll is the first time we have found majority disapproval for the Democratic leaders’ track record since they took control of Congress.’”
The above from CNN, 10/07 – kinda of old, don’t know if the approval now is better or worse
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/26/poll.congress/index.html
NBC/Wall Street Journal RV
3/7-10/2008
Approve 19%
Disapprove 69%
Unsure 12%
Torture the numbers long enough and they’ll confess to anything.
Let’s look at the approval ratings for Congress.
Almost half of Congress consists of Republic Party partisans. And they vote that way.
So, if you eliminate either party, you’re likely to double the approval rating of Congress.
Comparing the approval ratings of Congress — 435 people — with the approval rating of George WMD Bush — 1 person — is a false dichotomy.
Bush ssays the war in Afghanistan is “romantic” — Can anybody say, “straight jacket”?
bushco hasn’t done anything that deserves more than contempt.
Here’s what he told soldiers serving in Afghanistan:
“I must say, I’m a little envious,” Bush said. “If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed.”
“It must be exciting for you … in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You’re really making history, and thanks,” Bush said.
Of course when he had the opportunity to serve in wartime he couldn’t be found.
And, he didn’t mention that other war — the one of his choice in Iraq.
310 days, 5 hours, 12 minutes to January 20, 2009. Be ever watchful. bushco can do more harm before we get rid of them.
You’re of age lindainks, why didn’t you serve your country in the Military back then? :) Or any of the other Libs of that age. I know of one or two on this blog that did, but not many have served.
Pot meet kettle?
Don’t give me the I’m a woman excuse either.
Yeah linda.
“Poppy? I think it’s great how we’re fighting the spread of communism in southeast asia. Can ya get me a post in the Texas air national guard? I wanna do my part.”
“Or any of the other Libs of that age.”
Because I was against the War on Viet Nam and I drew a 202 in the draft lottery.
The War on Viet Nam had NOTHING to do with national security, just as the Bush War of Choice on Iraq had/has nothing to do with national security now.
McCreepy, you are just a butthead.
Actually, I knew several people that have served in the Air/Army National Guard during the ‘Nam era.
It wasn’t because they were chicken, it was because the had businesses to run; family farm, pharmacy or they already had families established and didn’t not want to put themselves in jeopardy because they were the sole provider.
To dishonor someone who served in the National Guard is dishonorable.
But Clarkie, they accepted volunteers back then.
No one can help that you were a coward and stayed at home with the flower children.
“To dishonor someone who served in the National Guard is dishonorable.”
To get out of the draft and avoid Viet Nam because your Daddy had connections is dishonorable.
“No one can help that you were a coward and stayed at home with the flower children.”
No, shithead, I had principles – I was against the War and therefore did not volunteer to participate in a war that I considered illegal and immoral.
You know, principles, something you would know little about.
“it was because the had businesses to run; family farm, pharmacy or they already had families established and didn’t not want to put themselves in jeopardy because they were the sole provider.”
This in no way describes george bush.
bawk bawk bawk
“bawk bawk bawk”
Did you VOLUNTEER for combat in ‘Nam, shithead, er, Regular?
“”Reason that Congress has such low approval rating is that they have failed to end the failed Bush War of Choice on Iraq, Wrong Angle.”"
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If the reason that the Congress approval rating is so low has to be more than their failure to end the war or it would stand to reason that the President’s rating would be just as low or lower than the Congress
Nope, The reason is it is the Worst Congress ever.
Clarkie ran and hid from Uncle Sam. He took the coward’s way out.
“bawk, bawk, bawk” means he ikhows he is beaat, aand cant offer anything better than chicken scratch!! LOL
So Chas, how’s Fort Worth this time of year? Still icy?
Ever been to White Settlement Texas? :)
No, I didn’t volunteer for that war in Vietnam that shouldn’t have been and wasn’t subject to the draft.
Neither did I ever tell soldiers that I was envious, or that it would be a fantastic experience or that it must be exciting and somewhat romantic.
James, I wont be telling you where I am in TX… You might as well just stuff it…
James is trying to troll himself an evening of company.
I wouldn’t indulge him.
Amen Linda!!
Too bad lindainks, I knew several female Medics and Nurses from that era. They served side by side their men in uniform bravely and proudly.
Wow, I hope KU doesnt draw G’Town or Pitt in first round play!! These two are tearing it up!!
I’ll find you Chas, I have relatives in many places of Texas. :)
I believe that looks like a threat… and using “others” to help you… That sounds like a conspiracy of sorts… You had best just stop while you still can!!
wonk wonk wonk
Don’t waste any pretended sympathy. I also know many — both men and women who served. Most of them learned the lessons of war much better than bushco who stayed stateside — somewhere (did anyone ever figure out where?).
My husband was drafted and served in the U.S. Army. He was an M.P. and was very lucky to be assigned to a prison in Germany. But we are of an age where many of our classmates, friends and relatives were affected by that war and those times. As I said, we all seem much more intelligent than bushco who didn’t learn any lessons from history.
More intelligent?
When is the last time you or your husband were the Governor of Texas or a two Term President?
Just saying…
Someone who thinks it took intelligence to be what bush has been needs education to fill the void between the ears.
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Someone who thinks it took intelligence to be what bush has been needs education to fill the void between the ears.
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Naw lindainks,
I think of Liberal Left Democrats as those bobble head dolls you see in the back of cars. Never in the lead and constantly shaking their collective heads as ‘yes’ men and women of whatever their misguided party leaders speak. :)
I wonder what genius told Bush to say that the war in Afghanistan is “romantic” ???
You haven’t served in the military either, have you Chas?
:)
I think some of those more stupid comments are because he is free lancing. Should have had something written down and on a teleprompter, huh!? He doesn’t give any indication his brain and mouth are connected. Or maybe what comes out of his mouth is what is in his brain. Yikes! That’s even worse!
“Did you VOLUNTEER for combat in ‘Nam, shithead, er, Regular?”
Well, did you, McCreepy or were you a “coward?”
Well, it sounded a little “Rovish” to me Linda… Thats why I was wondering…
I have never served in the military :-)
However, I have buried a fair number of those who have died in action :-( It’s a hard thing to deal with those families after a war death, since the military basically ignores them once they get the flag at the Cemetery/Columbarium/Mausoleum…
I would explain it to you Clarkie, but since you have never served in the U.S. Military, you wouldn’t understand what I was talking about.
The Radical Left Libs like Clarkie often mock what they don’t understand, mainly because they were too self-indulgent, smoking pot and generally being a leech on societies butt.
So, James, did you serve in NAM?? simple answer, Yes or No –
Easier still — did you serve during the NAM ERA?? yes or no??
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Posted March 15, 2008 at 7:50 pm | Permalink
I have never served in the military :-)
However, I have buried a fair number of those who have died in action :-( It’s a hard thing to deal with those families after a war death, since the military basically ignores them once they get the flag at the Cemetery/Columbarium/Mausoleum…
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Really Chas?
You’ve not heard of the Chaplain Counseling Services in the Military? How about all the trained counselors and professional Mental health personnel that are assigned to the military that help families in time of need.
Ever hear of Family Services Chas? That’s in the military.
Or are you such a poor Minister that you didn’t even bother to do the research to find out what the military offers?
I’m guessing the latter.
You seem to want to know a lot about me Chas? You don’t know already? I’m surprised your Klan of Radical Lefts haven’t done their research on me.
Therein, you will find your answer. :)
Sorry James… you lose… I wasnt ordained until 1978… I was in Seminary until 1976 — two years AFTER NAM ended!! Sucks to be you, James!!
Now, did you serve in the NAM era??? yes or no??
Sorry Chas, such information is classified. :)
(Polishes National Defense Ribbon with oak leaf cluster)
The priesthood isn’t for everyone, neither is the medical field or sales, engineering, teaching or construction, neither the military, being a parent or any other field or endeavor we could name. Why would anyone want to make it sound like one field of endeavor is more noteworthy than any other?
Classified??? as to whether you served in Nam?? Horse Hockey!! Either you DID or you DIDNT… I am betting on the latter, since you are avoiding it, while putting others down!! LOL TROLL!!
Why would anyone want to make it sound like one field of endeavor is more noteworthy than any other?
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Yeah lindainks, why would someone do that?
You know serving in the Air national Guard or not serving at all. :)
Anyone ever hear that very true quote about pride going before a fall?
Chas doesn’t know the answer when it is displayed in front of him
(chortles)
“I would explain it to you Clarkie, but since you have never served in the U.S. Military, you wouldn’t understand what I was talking about.”
Why DIDN’T you volunteer for combat service in ‘Nam, McCreepy?
Easy question, right?
After 3 years in a 3-church parish in 1981, a good friend of mine, an Air Force Chaplain, suggested I look at Chaplaincy… I contacted our people in NY… I was not eligible… We have a minimum 5 year ordained requirement in our denomination… just like most denominations have…
(chortles)
(smirks)
“Why DIDN’T you volunteer for combat service in ‘Nam, McCreepy?”
(chortles AND smirks)
My Chaplain friend retired from USAF as a Lt. Col. He has a great retirement benefit… AND he is still serving a large parish in Iowa!! The best of two worlds there…
Why didn’t you volunteer for combat service in Nam Clarkie?
I was against the war as well, but it was my duty to serve my country. I wasn’t a pilot, copilot or navigator. Those were about the only ones eligible for direct combat.
You really, really don’t know what you are talking about, do you Clarkie? :)
But please do keep arm flailing, it’s quite entertaining. :)
“Why didn’t you volunteer for combat service in Nam Clarkie?”
Because I was AGAINST the War – remember?
Now, why didn’t YOU volunteer, McCreepy?
Why would anyone believe any answer he might give???
(chortles AND smirks)
So what James?? I have those same trinkets at my house… They are with my Dad’s military mementos from WW II… We all know you claim to have been an officer in the Military… But that says nothing about NAM or NAM ERA… now does it??
Ya’ know, McCreepy, you COULD have volunteered for combat duty in the Army…………..
Chickenhawk……………………
Awww, look Clarkie is mimicking me, because he doesn’t have an original thought of his own. So flattering to be mimicked. :)
True Linda… True… :-(
“Awww, look Clarkie is mimicking me, because he doesn’t have an original thought of his own.”
Ya’ know, McCreepy, you COULD have volunteered for combat duty in the Army…………..
Chickenhawk……………………
Well, I am not wasting any more time on this matter… either he did or didnt… I dont really care… But… IF he didnt serve in NAM or NAM ERA, then all of his arm flailing about those of us who DIDNT, are just a bunch of Hooey!!
So since none of you three have ever served in the Military nor had any desire to serve your country, I just chalk you over behind the line of leech sucking , finger pointers who rail against those who have served but yet have contributed zero to the service of their country.
Democrats,
The party of Persecutors, Accusors, Victims.
It’s all they have and all they will ever become.
(chortles)
Pitt leading G’Town by 7 early in 2nd half… C’mon Pitt!!
“Now, why didn’t YOU volunteer, McCreepy?”
Huh? No answer? Were you a chickenshit?
I did not volunteer because I had principles.
What was your excuse?
(chortles, smirks and pukes)
Yet another reason to build a wall and restrict illegal immigration – Fox News
“MEXICO CITY — Mexican officials said Saturday that 36 bodies were found buried in the backyard of a house in a city across the border from El Paso, Texas, and they believe that number represents the final tally.
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In the raid, investigators found 3,740 pounds of marijuana in the house. They initially found six dismembered bodies, but as excavations proceeded the tally rose.
On Saturday, the Attorney General’s office said in a statement that a total of 36 bodies had been found in 16 pits in the house’s yard. The previous estimate had been 33. Officials did not provide details on the three new bodies.
The statement said investigators are done excavating behind the house in La Cuesta neighborhood and they believe there are no more remains to be found.
The remains date back about five years and all but three apparently are males. The statement said investigators were still trying to determine how the victims died and who buried the bodies.
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Cartels frequently use “safe houses” in border cities to store drugs, house gunmen and dispose of dead rivals.”
Sometimes I honestly dont think James served in the military at all.. After all, he could have learned most of what he claims to know about military from reading Clancy novels LOL
principles for Clarkie meant smoking weed and being irresponsible, sucking the lifeblood out of the U.S. giving nothing in return.
I am Clancy.
“principles for Clarkie meant smoking weed and being irresponsible, sucking the lifeblood out of the U.S. giving nothing in return.”
And the reason you did not volunteer for combat duty was what, McCreepy?
(chortles, smirks, pukes and laughs)
Linda — how did your brisket turn out??
I have a big kettle of chicken/noodles all ready for tomorrow, and boiled cabbage planned for Monday…
Asked and answered Clarkie,
Sorry all that weed you smoked killed your brain for memory retention and comprehension. :)
Not answered James… all you said was that you had a few trinkets from military service… You intentionally avoided answering with a Yes or No about NAM/NAM ERA… Clark wins!!
regular is a disgrace to all who have ever served to think that he believes himself to be a spokesperson for all veterans — he is a fraud and a sham —— very inteligent — dumber than a rock — has no original thought —- shame on you lying pos
I did answer Chas,none of you non-serving Libs are intelligent enough to figure it out. :)
And which Radical Left Lib are you normally LR?
Change nic for the day or are you just hiding that yellow streak that runs down your back? :)
“Asked and answered Clarkie,”
Naw, you never answered, McCreepy, so try again, why DIDN’T you volunteer for combat duty in ‘Nam?
“I did answer Chas,none of you non-serving Libs are intelligent enough to figure it out”
Okay, chickenhawk, give us a STRAIGHT answer – why didn’t you show some balls and volunteer for combat duty in ‘Nam?
Chas, He even thinks the only way to serve our country is by volunteering for military duty. I’m not sure education could fill the void between his ears.
What I am sure of is he will continue to make posts that don’t deserve to be read, let alone dignified with an acknowledgment or response.
The corned beef was excellent! I cooked it with cabbage, new potatoes, pearl onions, carrots and apples; served with rye bread. Only problem was I ate too much. Wish you could have been here as there was plenty to share.
Your meals sound good too! I haven’t made chicken and noodles in awhile. Thanks for the idea.
See you around Gentlemen. You too, Regular.
My apologies to the crowd here at the blog.
None of the Libs appear to figure out things out on their own.
Given an answer, they cannot make any conclusions unless they are directly lead by the hand to the answer.
Very sad it is.
You could have done the Peace Corp lindainks, that was a viable option and gotten you free of serving in the military during the Vietnam Era.
Evidently lindainks, any kind of service to your country just wasn’t in your plans was it?
You, Chas and Clarkie chose to let others sacrifice for their country, by sitting at home whining and complaining.
“None of the Libs appear to figure out things out on their own.”
Give us a straight answer, McCreepy, so far the only thing that I can deduce from your posts is you hid behind some imagined position so that you could avoid getting into real combat.
So, McCreepy, why didn’t you volunteer for combat duty in ‘Nam?
Easy question – easy answer – right?
Answer the freakin’ question, McCoward……
James, the question only required a yes or no answer… Did you serve in NAM, or NAM ERA?? You game some stupid answer about polishing your military trinkets… You could have gotten those from your alleged middle east service… So, who is the dumbA$$??
There was no hiding Clarkie, I served – you never have and never will.
You make up the sucking leeches of this country, whining, playing victim, accusing others, persecution.
Your kind are the waste products of the Human Experience. Never giving up one moment of their selfish lives to do anything that does not benefit themselves.
Clarkie and his ilk are what is wrong with America, the butt sucking leeches who sit around and whine all day.
Next time Hank is on Chas, ask him what the ribbons that I brought up mean and in reference who got out of the military in the early 1990s. :)
Nathan might know as well as I’m sure he has one of those devices on his military dress, minus the oak leaf cluster. :)
“There was no hiding Clarkie, I served – you never have and never will”
So WHY didn’t you volunteer for combat in ‘Nam, McCoward?
Still waiting for an answer.
You accuse others of being cowardly for not serving in Viet Nam, so why didn’t YOU volunteer for combat duty?
Or are you just another chickenhawk hypocrite?
wHY WOULD i ASK hANK?? YOU were the one blasting those who didnt serve in NAM… The question was simple… directed at YOU… I told you I have those same trinkets at MY house too… but I didnt serve… Maybe your trinkets belong to somebody else too, eh??
Everybody take note… James refuses to give a Yes or No answer as to whether he served in NAM or NAM ERA…. Instead he says he has a hand full of military trinkets that anybody might be able to have in their possession…
JAMES refuses to answer Yes or No on serving in NAM or NAM ERA!! This is just too funny!!
The BIG PATRIOT wont give a yes or no on NAM NAM ERA service!! ROFL!!!
No Chas and Clarkie and lindainks if still lurking…
I didn’t say serve in Nam.
I said server – period.
You all had the option to serve in the Peace Corp as an alternative.
But you didn’t.
You choice to suck dry from the bone marrow of the United States while spitting in the face of Lady Liberty.
You made your beds, now sleep in them.
server= serve
choice=chose
James, you specifically asked if i served in the military… YOU ARENT GOING TO SPIN THIS ONE AWAY — And, BTW, loser, I never had a dime of government money to go to school!! Not ONE DIME!!
Hard to type plain when you’re lying, eh James?? ROFL!!
“I said server – period.”
Server? Were you a waiter?
But anyway, why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
And, since you DIDN’T, who the Hell are you to criticize anyone else that did not?
(chortles, smirks, pukes, laughs and wonders WTF?)
The Radical Left Libs still don’t get it.
They have done zero to serve their country in any capacity.
I am beginning to think that James never served in any military service!!
BTW, why would anybody want to serve in the Peace Corps??? No wages there… No retirement benefit there… No continuing health care benefits there… Peace Corps is only for people who already HAVE lots of money to burn!! LOL
“The Radical Left Libs still don’t get it.”
Still waiting………….
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
Geez why are you guys feeding this diseased mental patient James?
Let him alone and he’d invent nics to talk to himself.
I know lots about him. Repeated searches fail to confirm his claims that he was injured either in combat or even in the middle eastern theater. I cannot even confirm he was ever IN the military.
Oh and before he gets all riled up?
I can use only what he posts here to go looking on him.
However, I DID volunteer two years of time in the program called VISTA… I was a tutor to elementary school kids… ALSO, I had two foster kids… Kids nobody else wanted… So, I guess I have done my share of volunteer services… Not to mention Habitat, and Commodities distribution for many years…
JFK appears to have understood.
And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.
Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God’s work must truly be our own.”
“The Radical Left Libs still don’t get it.”
Still waiting………….
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
Oh yea, how about providing housing/utilities for 3 years to a homeless NAM ERA Veteran?? Does that count for service?? I think so!!
Why didn’t you volunteer for combat duty in Nam Clarkie?
Betting that Chas was well paid for those ’services’ by the state in which he lived.
“Why didn’t you volunteer for combat duty in Nam Clarkie?”
Because I considered the war to be illegal and immoral.
You, on the other hand, criticize people because they did not serve in ‘Nam.
So, I am asking…..
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
From The Sunday Times, March 16, 2008
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/abortion.pdf
“Royal college warns abortions can lead to mental illnessWomen may be at risk of mental health breakdowns if they have abortions, a medical royal college has warned. The Royal College of Psychiatrists says women should not be allowed to have an abortion until they are counselled on the possible risk to their mental health.
This overturns the consensus that has stood for decades that the risk to mental health of continuing with an unwanted pregnancy outweighs the risks of living with the possible regrets of having an abortion.
Dr Peter Saunders, general secretary of the Christian Medical Fellowship, said: “How can a doctor now justify an abortion [on mental health grounds] if psychiatrists are questioning whether there is any clear evidence that continuing with the pregnancy leads to mental health problems.”
See?
Now the puppetnics are coming out.
“Why didn’t you volunteer for combat duty in Nam Clarkie?”
Because I considered the war to be illegal and immoral.
You, on the other hand, criticize people because they did not serve in ‘Nam.
So, I am asking…..
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
“Why didn’t you volunteer for combat duty in Nam Clarkie?”
Because I considered the war to be illegal and immoral.
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So you’re an International attorney now Clakie? You know what is legal and illegal? The Democratic Congress said it was a legal conflict.
Could it be your cowardly and inappropriate excuse for hiding out during the Vietnam Conflict was the only excuse you needed to get high and become a leech of society?
So again,
Why didn’t you volunteer for combat duty in Nam Clarkie?
btw, as previously mentioned I was against the war, but obeyed the laws of the land, my Congress and My President.
Evidently Clarkie is a disobedient coward.
Leech of society?
The only poster on this entire blog that fits that description is you James.
Quiet Junior, you’re still sucking on your mama’s teat for support.
Never got a DIME James!! I already said that once… All volunteer stuff!!
“as previously mentioned I was against the war, but obeyed the laws of the land, my Congress and My President.”
So you DID volunteer for combat duty in Viet Nam?
Naw, you know damned well you didn’t.
“Evidently Clarkie is a disobedient coward.”
No, I drew a 202 in the draft lottery of 1971 – no TANG, no claims of bad knees or cysts or deferments or the other REPUBLICAN excuses – just a high number in the draft lottery.
No disobedient there, chickenhawk.
Just when is that meetup you need to call James?
To get all your alternate nics together?
So, McCoward…………..
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
James, there IS a legal term for believing that the war is illegal and immoral…
Can you spell Conscientious Objector??
Evidently, WSClark ignored the words of JFK and the plea from his Democratic President and Congress for a call to arms.
WSClark did not serve, did not honor his country in any way. He chose to spit on the very freedoms that allowed him to make his selfish, self-serving protests by trampling on the blood of those who sacrificed before him.
WSClark is what is wrong with America.
So, McCoward…………..
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
So since you were ordained until the late 70s, what was all that garbage about your Church work in Chicago during the early 70s? You know, you and your home boy Jesse.
There are just so many places to hide in Chicago isn’t there Chas?
Have you paid those back taxes you owe yet Chas? The IRS has been looking for you.
Please note, James, I did NOT ask you if you volunteered for duty during NAM or NAM ERA… I asked if you SERVED during NAM or NAM ERA… Since you refuse a direct yes or no answer, I must assume, logically, that you did NOT serve during NAM or NAM ERA…
That makes all of your objections to Clark totally, and unscrupulously MOOT!!!
So, Creepy McCoward…………..
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
Chas and WS.
You are feeding a shut in.
Good on you the charity. I guess.
But don’t you get it?
You are being played by a very ill person.
I mean he even posted once that he has to have someone come in to change him.
I NEVER SAID I WORKED IN A CHURCH IN CHICAGO IN THE EARLY 70′S JAMES… ANOTHER PROOF THAT YOU CANNOT READ!!
AND I NEVER SAID EARLY 70′S EITHER!! LIAR!!
Well, thats true JR… Like I said upthread, I am not even sure anymore that James even served any time in the Military!!
As I said, he could have picked up most of what he spews about from Tom Clancy novels!!
Let’s see another hint, I had a form called a ‘dream sheet’ filled out and ready to go for – “South East Asia.” I was a volunteer. Specifically, requested Tan Son Nhut, Udorn and Da Nang Air Bases. Udorn was in Thailand, but close enough and considered in the combat zone.
James, what I DID say was that I did some work with Jesse jackson’s outfit IN Chicago, during the 70’s… Not EARLY 70’s… 70’s… I served in Student/Licensed parishes from 1973 – 1978… I also did some work with Jackson between 1978 – 81 when I was in Nebraska… So, what is your blessed point??
So Chas, is that why you keep running? You are avoiding paying the IRS what is owed to them, because you keep changing your story to everyone on who you are and where you lived?
Regular posted March 15, 2008 at 6:35 am
“Yep, it’s an open thread…”
The 1st post of this thread. No additional comment needed.
Well, folks, busy busy day tomorrow… Have a Blessed Palm Sunday now!!
Good night; Good luck; and
God Bless; whatever you conceive
God to be!!
Blessings to all!!
Hosanna in the Highest!!
Yeah Chas (wink) ole Jesse was known to have spent most of his adult life in Nebraska (wink,wink)
Chas is packing his get-away bag right now, just in case the IRS knocks on his door in the middle of the night.
No James, but YOU are one insatiable LIAR and a FOOL!!! I dont owe IRS one dime… at least not until April 15… I always pay my taxes on time… Always!! And I havent changed my story at all… YOU keep trying to change it FOR me!! And I wont LET you do that, because all you want to do is LIE!!
And you know what… Keep lying… Because the more you LIE, the more people will realize what SCUM you really are!!
I am outta here for tonite!!
That was Chas’s story to the Judge, shortly there after he skipped out on bail and fled to another state.
Regular
Posted March 15, 2008 at 9:30 pm | Permalink
Yeah Chas (wink) ole Jesse was known to have spent most of his adult life in Nebraska (wink,wink)
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And you lie YET AGAIN!!! Does it ever END with you??? You STUPID FOOL!!! I didnt say JACKSON was in Nebraska… I said I served in Nebraska!! WHY is it so many of you STUPID right wingers cant read simple English??? DAMN, you are STUPID!!!
And everybody here knows it but YOU and your little friends!! So, HAVE FUN!!!
Chas,
JimmyMac does not have anything else to do tonight… but you probably do.
Reposted………….
So, Creepy McCoward…………..
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
Chas,
Please do not feed JimmyMac, the troll. He already emits way too much methane.
reposted…
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Regular
Posted March 15, 2008 at 9:26 pm | Permalink
Let’s see another hint, I had a form called a ‘dream sheet’ filled out and ready to go for – “South East Asia.” I was a volunteer. Specifically, requested Tan Son Nhut, Udorn and Da Nang Air Bases. Udorn was in Thailand, but close enough and considered in the combat zone.
“Let’s see another hint, I had a form called a ‘dream sheet’ filled out and ready to go for”
But it is CLASSIFIED, so………………….
Yada, yada, yada……………
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
So why have you never served you country in any capacity in your life time WSClark?
Too selfish and self-serving coward are you?
Don’t answer that.
Every one knows you are exactly that.
(chortles)
James, you remind me of an old guy I knew ondce in Ohio… You ask him what time it was, and he would tell you how to build the friggin clock… We ask you a yes or no question on NAM, or NAM ERA… And you give us the run around… So, now you say you were a volunteer… And no, I am not even going to ask you if you got any of your wishes granted on your “dream sheet” — Which, iirc, is something recruiters used to give to new recruit prospects….
Ignorance of not understanding the facts is no excuse Chas.
You make much of your “service to country” there James.
But thing is? Oft repeated claims require proof.
Guy? I’m not finding it for you.
Reposted…………………
Yada, yada, yada……………
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
Are you still going to pretend that your service was “classified” or are you going to answer the question?
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
Tis not surprising JR.
You actually have to know what you are doing in order to do something properly.
In that, you appear to have no ability at all.
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam, Creepy McCoward?
reposted:
So why have you never served you country in any capacity in your life time WSClark?
Too selfish and self-serving coward are you?
Don’t answer that.
Every one knows you are exactly that.
How long have you been supported by the government James?
(chortles)
Creepy McCoward – you were the idiot that criticized others because they did NOT volunteer for combat in ‘Nam, so it is a fair question to ask you the same….
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam, Creepy McCoward?
Clark — he cant answer that… He would lose what he perceives to be “control”
(chortles……………….. yada, yada, yada)
JimmyMac,
Why DIDN’T you VOLUNTEER for combat duty in ‘Nam?
It’s an easy question. So answer it.
Come on folks, quit arguing with James the ultimate Troll. It is a waste of time; and get a clue: when you wrestle with pigs, you get kind of muddy.
(chortle and smirk…). Didn’t Jimmy Bisoni used to do that chortle thing – please don’t start on that one – there is simply more than one dumb ass posting at the WE Blog.
Good night, and good luck…
(smirks)
Regular
Posted March 15, 2008 at 9:26 pm | Permalink
Let’s see another hint, I had a form called a ‘dream sheet’ filled out and ready to go for – “South East Asia.” I was a volunteer. Specifically, requested Tan Son Nhut, Udorn and Da Nang Air Bases. Udorn was in Thailand, but close enough and considered in the combat zone
*****
REALLY?!
Regular, as Republican you repeatedly said you were “too young” to have been able to go to ‘Nam.
But that was back when you were trying to convince everybody you weren’t JM.
So I guess you “forgot” you said you were too young to go to ‘Nam.
That’s what happens when you lie a lot . . .
I made!
Chas posts an obit with the father of the deceased bolded, then claims that s/he posted it on the basis or the deceased being an organ donor. Strange s/he didn’t bold the organ donor part. S/He claimed a technical glitch, though throughout the rest of the thread, s/he makes no mention of the donor part. Hmmmmmmmmm,
Then s/he claims Dr. Paul is *nut fringe*, but has nothing to back that up. Even though Dr. Paul has a better grasp on the economy, fiat monetary system, and foreign policy than any other candidate running. Seems to me ole chas has not a pot to pi$$ in, but likes to run his/her mouth. Sounds like chas is a lot like the American dollar. Nothing behind it.
Somebody call the paramedics — Regular is apparently having a stroke.
He’s having aphasia.
Somebody call the paramedics
Capn supports a candidate that stands for??? A lot of fluff speeches and nothing else… Wiffing at hot air capn. Sure signs of….
And the roaches run like the lights just turned on. Expected.
Guess I caught the thread at bed time. Nite thread, my night is just kickin off.
The 10:45 post is not mine just in case anyone is wondering.
But you know, the Radical left libs on this blog never troll or steal nics, right? :roll:
Sol, you must have missed how many times Chas. did in fact, mention the wonderful vision of the young man who died, for signing an organ donor card, that saved the lives of several people. I dont remember if it was four or five. You obviously missed that.
As for concentrating on what came through as bold, are you saying that there are no glitches in computer programs? It is a known fact here, at least, that the WE is currently doing some repair and maintenance work on the Blog.
Apparently since you are not local, you must not know that either.
As for all the fuss you and a few others, who want to make mockery of that family, you keep whining about who the father is/was. It was not your “Regular” as he posted at least twice that the obituary had nothing to do with him or his family.
I would highly suggest that if you want to make some comment on the obituary, you try to stick to the main point of the post. This boy, 20 years old, had more foresight than many adults 3 times his age, for thinking about the future lives of those other than himself. And as the obituary pointed out very clearly, the boys organ dontions saved lives.
If you have a problem with organ donor cards, then go for it, but if you are against such as that, it speaks much of your view of human life!
I will say no more about this. I suggest you and your little friends do the same. You are beating the dead equine into the turf.
Shut up square peg/Chas…
You know you posted that right after JR said he couldn’t find anything on me and the first words of that post are quite telling.
What a trolling liar Chas is.
Don’t deny you’re not square peg Chas. Everyone on the blog knows it’s you. Just fess up and deal with it.
I don’t if a poster who you claim you don’t even know would give a rat’s ass about you and sure the heck wouldn’t write long paragraphs defending you.
So Chas, park your pork butt back down and hang your head in shame for trolling.
Regular, you must have all kinds of delusional thinking. You keep lying all the time calling me somebody other than who I am. I dont follow the JR saga, or Chas. But I did read the obituary post, and do not recall that it came before, during, or after anything that was even about you, or who you are. Frankly, I dont give a good damn who you are, except that you are a constant disruptor on this Blog, and the entire Blog would be better off without you and several others hanging around for the sole purpose of causing disruptions.
And thats all I am going to ssay about you or your dopey little friends, or this obituary post, that was merely an attempt to lift up the good things that young people do, instead of always concentrating on the stupid things young people do.
If you and your friends cant handle that sort of thing, just get over it, or go find some hate filled Blog where you would obviously feel more at home.
I dont post here very often but I do read the blogs daily. Regular,thank you for reminding me on a daily basis why I left the conservative side of politics,its people like you with their name calling and refusal to give a straight answer that has this country in the condition that is in,and before you ask I did serve in the National Guard from 1972-78,couldn’t get a defferment and had a low draft number.
lies…
::,
Alright… so you might not really be Chas. So what?
You always seem to post like Chas, you seem to always post at those times Chas is conveinently gone, and you are here defending Chas with the same verbage Chas was using.
You really might not be Chas. You basically post like him so what does it matter if you say you are not him?
Might as well be his identical twin.
Freebird,
If you left being a Conservative because of the way people act then you probably never were a conservative to begin with.
Being a conservative is a matter of principle and policy.
People come in all different shapes, sizes and attitudes.
If you gave up your principles which you claim to have had simply because of some attitudes then you are one fickle person.
Okay Nathan, here’s your chance.
What does a National Defense Ribbon mean that has an oak leaf cluster on it? :)
heh heh
Times up! ;)
Some people got the bronze service star instead of the Oak Leaf Cluster, don’t know why the change or the significance.
from a medal website: the Description:
Criteria: a. The National Defense Service Medal was awarded for honorable active service for any period between 27 June 1950 and 27 July 1954; between 1 January 1961 and 14 August 1974; between 2 August 1990 and 30 November 1995 and between 11 September 2001 and a closing date to be determined.
Since I didn’t serve During the Korea War or after 2001, it should be easy to figure out when I served. :)
Regular,
We don’t use the oak leaf cluster like they did in the Army during your time. All services use the silver or bronze star now to show multiple awards.
Depending on it being silver or bronze it would denote multiple awards.
Ah!
Was wondering about the bronze star, have seen it on uniforms, that an the “V” for valor on the National Defense Ribbon.
Guess I’m of the old school awardees. :)
I don’t think you can get a V on a National Defense Ribbon.
Hmmm, thought I saw a few of those “V for Valor” after VieNam. Might be mistaken, been a long, long time ago. :)
Think you’re right Nathan, there were a lot of bronze stars handed out back then, perhaps that where I saw the V.
Life was pretty fuzzy for me back then, everything seemed a blur and like it had already happened, but had yet to experience it.
Deja Vu I guess occurs a lot to those in harm’s way.
Fear maybe? dunno…
er bronze medals not stars..
sleepy groggy, writing incorrectly…
“Everybody take note… James refuses to give a Yes or No answer as to whether he served in NAM or NAM ERA”
What I am taking note of Chas, is that you and your fellow nitwit trolls (JR, WS Clark, and CapnAmerica) have wasted an entire day of the Open Thread attacking and beating up Regular.
Over and over again, asking a personal question to a poster who has answered all he is going to answer.
No Opinion.
No new ideas.
No new communcations.
Just wasted space.
And you Chas, an “ordained minster” say you are LMFAO over this?
The weblog needs to shut this place down.
Wasted space all day long.
Phillip Brownlee: Please review today’s open thread.
If you are gaining advertising dollars based upon the total number of posts alone, you are probably going to maintain a second class newspaper blog.
If you are looking at the number of individual posters, you are less than second class.
Look at the content of the posts on this open blog and please consider moderation.
The elementary school posting herein are not worthy of intelligent people posting nor contributing to your revenue statement. You are providing at some cost a website for children.
Without moderation, you can never hope to become worldclass and certainly not worthy of spending advertising dollars on.
Nathan,
Not fickle, just fed up.
It’s not the number of posters American Way; it’s the number of readers. If you post 10,000 times a day it doesn not increase readership.
In fact, a cursory search of kansas.com at http://www.alexa.com revealed that 2 percent of users who use the kansas.com site hit the forums. One wonders why newspapers even bother to offer forums.
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Freebird
Posted March 16, 2008 at 2:34 am | Permalink
Nathan,
Not fickle, just fed up.
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And he was always a Lib :)
Sarah,
Your first post: You are correct. Dollars are based upon readers. With the content herein, any passers-by or new readers would quickly skip on down the road.
Your second post: Agreed. Paper isn’t selling. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Check the McClatchy Company financial report. Not doing so good. But it only reflects what is happening throughout the industry.
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