Barack Obama has written a blog on Huffington Post responding to the firestorm over inflammatory remarks made by his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Obama writes that “I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies.â€
He says that Wright “has never been my political advisor; he’s been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.â€
He concludes: “I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be president of the United States.â€
It’s a good response: Calm, balanced, providing context. Obama reportedly is going on several TV programs, including Fox, to nip this in the bud.
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Yup. The Obama-haters have piled on, and now he has to respond to something that was never his problem.
Mission accomplished.
Of course, this denunciation by Obama-man will do nothing to quiet the Swift-boat smears.
Mr Barak Obama-
Great answer. Thank you. I will continue supporting your candidacy for President.
I still do not know how much the offensive material was as compared to the whole of Wright’s teaching. Nor do I understand how one could spend 20 years under someone’s teachings that were so opposed to your own. However, I don’t rally have to understrand it. I have to decide whether or not Barak Obama holds these beliefs. He has stated to the contrary. I accept his word.
What surprises me is that African-Americans aren’t a heckofalot more steamed off about 300 years of slavery than they are.
Can you imagine if Rush Limbaugh had been subjected to what the black community has over the centuries?
Lord, there aren’t enough tissues in the kleenex box for that boo hoo . . .
It’s good that this is coming out now. It will be old news by the time Obama gets the Democratic nomination.
Funny, the Democrats finally have a candidate that is a devote Christian and the Republican machine smears his church and the pastor.
Has McCain ever made such a foreceful statement regarding his supporter Hagee?
Fox will cut his microphone if he defends himself too well.
How many years has it been since Obama lived full-time in Chicago. Please accept this as an honest question from someone who doesn’t know the answer, but would like to. Just trying to figure out how often he would have had the opportunity to attend this church in recent years.
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Water cannons anyone?
Swiftboating- Telling the truth about a Democrat.
Put a fork in him, the devil has been “loosed.”
I’d say I’m sorry Capn.
But I’m not. As I say elsewhere, I’ve been aware of this for some time. I would imagine the Clinton campaign has too.
None of us started this ball rolling. It starts MOSTLY with Sean Hannity and some right wing bloggers.
But really, this should have come out louder and sooner. And STILL Obama is handling it all wrong.
He’s trying to spin it AND bury it. You can’t do both!
His initial reaction SHOULD have been something like…
“Well my faith is deeply personal to me. I don’t consider it reflective of my service to community in any but the most positive way. And my record reflects that. My pastor has on occasion been…. passionate. We recall that Jesus was passionate when confronting the moneychangers in the temple. But I will stand for my own words and you are of course free to ask Pastor Wright about his. I think it is unfortunate when conflicts as to faith are introduced into the political arena. And I for one want no part of it.”
“I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies.” by Barack the Magic Negro
What a bunch of Bu!! $h!t He sat in a pew of that racist minister’s church and listened to him go on and on about how bad this country is. Obama attended this church with this same pastor for over 20 YEARS! And this racist baptized Obama’s kids, and oversaw Obama’s marriage. Hum, doesn’t sound like he has a problem with him now does it?
He is a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American worthless pile of garbage and Obama calls him “like an uncle”, a friend and until just now a campaign advisor. How convenient that just now he denounces him.
What an opportunistic lier this magic negro is.
I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies, despite the fact that I sat there and listened to that hatefilled crap for 20 years.
What fun, water cannons.
What fun, water cannons.
Heh, rather creepy choice of metaphor there, Heck.
Think about it.
Heckler
We should get Chas to go to Denver.
Then Chas can say, “I baptize you” as the water cannons fire away at the crowds!
Democrats
We saw Trent Lott brought down for simply saying something nice about a fellow Senator as that Senator went into retirement.
We saw another Senator brought down for making a comment about “Macaca” that was not intended to be racial at all.
Rush Limbaugh was hounded out of a TV Sports Show for simply stating that the press was going too easy on a Black Quarterback.
Look, this is the world that LIBERALISM created!
Live by the sword, DIE by the sword —
Liberalism created this over sensitive, race and gender charged society.
Obama will carry this on his back until November.
“Nip it in the Bud”???
Hardly, this is Cudzoo, it is growing faster than you can cut it.
Get rid of Wright, and the Jacksons and Sharptons and Farahkans (and the Wrights) get mad at Obama.
Get rid of Wright, and Obama angers his Black base.
But, it seems that choice has been made, by Obama.
The Democrats are now left with two choices that will not work.
Nominate Hillary, and the Black vote is in real doubt.
Nominate Obama and go down in flames!
Perhaps? This might make Obama a bit more humble, and open to Veep?
Who knows.
All I can say is: there will be more.
The Teflon has been scraped off with Pastor Jeremiah Wright’s Brillo Pad.
And we saw Ferarro step down.
How many other people had to step down or apologize, on the Clinton campaign?
Not a big Hillary fan here, but — what are the rules liberals, what, exactly, ARE the rules?
Rule one.
Republicans are invited OUT of our nomination process.
JR
Sorry
I don’t take orders from YOU.
And? Rush and Ann Coulter say we should support Hillary. I am doing my best in that regard.
Hillary will win PA!
LOL.
Far as I can see the rules aare summed up with we each get one vote this November. May the best wo/man win!
Econ101,
I guess in your universe, saying that if a pro-segregationist had won the Presidency, we would have “avoided all these problems” (i.e. the Civil Rights movement) = ’saying something nice about a fellow Senator heading into retirement.’
For somebody who, if I may say so, Econ101, has on mroe than one occasion displayed a rather enlightened racial awareness, you sure are willing to spin Trent Lott’s overtly racist comment.
As for who “created” this “racially charged society,” it was, not, in fact, liberals who did so: rather, it was those who enforced a racist ideology of white supremacy upon Africans and their descendents for 350 years. Blaming liberals for a racially-charged atmosphere is, well, LUDICROUS, given that it was liberals, such as Dr. Martin Luther King, who led the effort to end segregation.
What a good little toady foot soldier you are paulie.
I don’t imagine you have ever had a thought of your own.
By the way, SCHIP backer?
You do realize that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton did NOT support SCHIP when the idea first came up, don’t you?
“But the Clinton White House, while supportive of the idea of expanding children’s health, fought the first SCHIP effort, spearheaded by Senators Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, because of fears that it would derail a bigger budget bill.”
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/14/clinton_role_in_health_program_disputed/
Yeah paulie can teach us much about bigotry.
I mean he has proudly boasted of how he was recruited for his fighting ability to beat up gay people in parks.
(points and laughs at CF2K)
Mmm better be clear for our newer readers.
“Econ” who I address as “paulie” has proudly boasted as to how he was recruited by like minded thugs to beat up gay people in parks.
He runs with biggots.
CF
Republicans belong to the Party of Abraham Lincoln
The Democrat Party was the pro slavery party.
The Democrat Party was the Jim Crow Party.
Every Civil Rights act ever passed had the heavy support of Republicans.
It was President Eisenhower who called out Federal Troops to enforce equality in Arkansas, against the wishes of Bill Clinton’s racist mentors, like Senator Fulbright, the segragationist.
You think those I mentioned, such as Trent Lott, SHOULD suffer for saying nice things about others?
Obama has said some very, very nice things about the bigot, Pastor Jeremiah Wright.
What goes around comes around!
I expect Obama to pay the SAME price as any person, of any race, who has such a close association with a bigot or conspiracy kook like this Pastor Wright!
JR
I boasted of nothing.
I said that I actually went to the police, when I found out about some thugs who liked to pick on gays.
You are a liar JR.
I think everyone is on to that fact.
Time to go to one of your sock puppets now!
Nic Switch JR, nobody believes you.
JR supports the destruction of the current state of Israel.
JR wants to plant land mines on the Mexican border to blow up Mexicans.
I am no bigot.
I have gone to the police to protect gays.
I have, personally, punished people for spray painting the N word on my dorm.
JR is the bigot.
I don’t switch nics.
I also do not lie.
You boasted that you were recruited for what you told us was your “fighting ability” to beat up gay people in parks.
Deny you said it. I dare you.
Clearly a case of guilt by association. People who want to beat up other people saw YOU as a friend and possible recruit.
You are a bigot.
“JR supports the destruction of the current state of Israel.”
This is a lie.
I HAVE said that the location of Israel is problematic.
“JR wants to plant land mines on the Mexican border to blow up Mexicans.”
I have also advocated total amnesty for the illegals in this country. MY interest being in the protection of American labor. Secondary interest in the people of Mexico fixing their country as opposed to fleeing it.
YOU are for the continued exploitation of the Mexican people.
You are a liar AND a bigot.
JR
Some logic training is in order, perhaps, for slower minds like yours?
You have, previously, called me names.
I made the point that I had, actually, taken some personal risks in my life, to protect gays and minorities, and gave examples.
Someone was stupid enough to think that, since I was very good at chasing down and arresting shoplifters, White, Black, Mexican, or Gypsy, that I might enjoy illegal and disgusting activities like beating up on gays.
I told the police, less than 30 minutes after I was asked to join that group. Those that I “ratted out” knew full well that I was the one that turned on them.
Again, JR, what sacrifice have you made, what risks have you taken, for any minority or any Gay person?
I demand that the rules must be the same for everyone.
We have destroyed White men, for careless comments and careless associations.
Obama is running for the highest office in the country.
Obama should he held to a HIGHER standard than Trent Lott, Rush Limbaugh or George Allen.
Econ101,
And Abraham Lincoln cringes every time race-baiting Republicans come to sodomize his corpse, yet again, to cover up their shameless racist pandering of the last 35 years.
To hear you Repukes tell it, Econ101, American civil rights history stopped in the mid-1960’s. Note to Econ101: things have changed, and the Republican Party is now the Southern, white supremacist, regional party.
If the Democratic Party is the party of white racism as you want to imply, why is it, Econ101, that there isn’t a SINGLE AFRICAN AMERICAN REPUBLICAN WHO HOLDS NATIONAL OFFICE?
You’re pretty good at denying reality, Econ101, and your Repuke cohorts are pretty good at playing the reverse-discrimination victim. But it’s all bullshit, as your racist cohorts upthread demonstrate, and as you, with your insistence on ignoring the meaning of Senator Lott’s words, unwittingly confirm.
The Republican Party, the party that used Katrina to ethnically cleanse New Orleans, is the party of white supremacism. If I was a Repuke with an iota of shame, Econ101, I’d be spinning just like you are.
Econ101
Posted March 14, 2008 at 8:33 pm | Permalink
I expect Obama to pay the SAME price as any person, of any race, who has such a close association with a bigot or conspiracy kook like this Pastor Wright!
So what price has McCain paid for accepting the endorsements of Rev Parsley (a bigot and nuclear war advocate) and Rev Haggee (another bigot and intolerant SOB).
It’s obvious Freshman that you are a rascist bigot who gives McCain a pass but jumps all over Obama for his minister’s opinions.
Rascist pig white duck!
What can you say paulie (econ)
You hang out with and around people who know you well enough to consider you an asset in thuggery and bigotry.
You are at LEAST as suspect as a bigot as this makes Obama. Much more so my take.
Obama should he held to a HIGHER standard than Trent Lott, Rush Limbaugh or George Allen.
Econ is a rascist pig. Where does he work? Does his boss know that he’s such an intolerant flaming asswipe?
“Funny, the Democrats finally have a candidate that is a devote Christian and the Republican machine smears his church and the pastor.”
KCdude–
You’ve got it exactly right. They [the dog-sh!t eaters, as CF put it, rightly] take the strengths of our candidates and turn it into a weakness.
Gore was intelligent, so he became a “wooden robot.” Dean was passionate, so he was a “hot-headed screamer.”
Kerry had a silver star and a bronze star and three purple hearts while Bush has papers showing he was AWOL. So of course, the swiftboaters were quickly brought into play.
“We have destroyed White men, ”
See? My take is this is another hint as to your at least latent bigotry paul e con.
WHO capitalizes the adjective “white” or “black”?
Well YOU do.
What other adjectives do you emphasize?
Tell us about Red firetrucks? Expound on the Blue sky?
Bigot.
Perhaps this next week, those who know Econ the rascist blogger can inform his employer what he does during the work day!
And Boxlock (Taz)–
I second the motion.
Sometimes the best response to reich-wing spew is just to let fly . . .
Rush did not run for President
Neither did George Allen
Neither did Trent Lott.
YES Obama MUST be held to a higher standard.
Hehehe, Kansas.
Don’t bother. In George WAR President’s economy, Econ isn’t selling any stock anyway . . .
Thanks Capn, the rascist pig Econ isn’t worth the spit it takes to lick Regular’s panties (which Econ does on a pretty Regular basis).
Why should YOU hold Obama to a “higher standard” paulie?
Wouldn’t that make you also a hypocrite?
Given your own at LEAST guilt by association and DEMONSTRATED at least conscious bigotry?
Heh. And this isn’t even my fight!
Econ is an insurance salesman.
Recall the John Prine, when he said ruefully,
“All my friends turned out to be insurance salesmen.”
In stark contrast, Econ has never had a friend…
One has to wonder why…
CF states, “why is it, Econ101, that there isn’t a SINGLE AFRICAN AMERICAN REPUBLICAN WHO HOLDS NATIONAL OFFICE?
Condoleeza Rice, Secretary of State and National Security Adviser, doesn’t count of course, not liberal enough to be considered African American is that it CF. Is she too accomplished, to educated or just not black enough according to your definition.
Boxlick–
What would the difference be between Condi Rice’s position and a congressperson or a Senator?
Think real hard, BXLX.
Even you aren’t that dumb.
Theme song from Jeopardy ends.
CF obviously meant no elected Republican blacks in office . . .
I have paid my dues on the racial equality front.
I have, literally, the scars to prove it.
Keep your preaching to yourselves.
“Kansas” I am self employed, and have dozens of Black and Mexican clients who agree with me.
You are making threats.
You are desperate, obviously.
There isnt a racist bone in my body.
I am making an honest statement:
No White politician would be allowed to associate with a bigoted conspiracy kook like Pastor Jeremiah Wright, without serious public relations fall out.
I am the FURTHEST THING from a bigot.
I demand the same rules for everyone.
Either we learn to give Geraldine Ferraro, Rush Limbaugh, George Allen and Trent Lott a pass, when they or those like them make a harmless statement, or we hold Obama to the same standards —
Obama has said wonderful things about the bigot conspiracy kook Pastor Jeramiah Wright.
Former KKK member Robert Byrd, a Democrat, is STILL in the United States Senate.
Byrd was once the Senate Majority Leader!
However, you will not even allow a nice word to be said about Stom Thurmon, at his retirement?
This is hypocrisy.
Democrats are divided by race, and this election proves it.
Democrats were divided over race before Pastor Wright even became an issue.
Boston, New York, Detroit and Chicago are NOT in the South. They are all Democrat strong holds. And, those cities have had some of the worst race riots in history!
Quit preaching to Republicans and CLEAN UP YOUR OWN PARTY!
Steven,
Look down your nose all you want.
There is no way you could ever survive, financially, and do what I do.
You do not have the required skills.
Or the integrity.
I have my concerns as to Obama.
But I will NOT let a hypocrite, bigot, Republican shill like pauliecon (econ) into the debate without proper disclaimers.
I ask only that those who ARE for Obama remember my efforts here. And I admonish again against Obama’s belief that such people can be worked with.
Mr. Mensa vocabulary CF said “that there isn’t a SINGLE AFRICAN AMERICAN REPUBLICAN WHO HOLDS NATIONAL OFFICE?”
Do any of you DemLibs even know how to even read?
Secretary of State and National Security Adviser are National Offices. Not elected but appointed national offices none the less.
Heh
I wonder what paulie looks up his nose at?
I can guess.
Econ101
Posted March 14, 2008 at 8:58 pm | Permalink
“Rush did not run for President
Neither did George Allen
Neither did Trent Lott.
YES Obama MUST be held to a higher standard.”
But not John McCain who has kooks and bigots giving him money and access to their congregations.
Ohhhhh yeah…McCain is white so it’s OK for him to associate with kooks and bigots.
Econ the loser just got pantypunked by his own ignorance.
Have fun peoples! I gotta go on a business (heheheheh) trip to Bermuda for a few days. Fore!!!!!
“Democrats are divided by race.”
Ya, you betcha, Econ.
That’s why practically every African-American politician on the national scene you can mention is Democratic.
Except for Alan Keyes. Take him please, he’s yours.
CF
Actually, part of what really makes me mad about bigot Pastor J. Wrights rants?
The Bigot Jeremiah Wright pretty much called Condeleza Rice and Colin Powell “Uncle Toms” in one of his hateful sermons.
OMFG!
Integrity?
Paulie is going to talk to us of integrity?
Guy! You are known as the blogs biggest liar and universally despised.
Even GMC once told you to shut up because you make your side look bad.
Econ101
Posted March 14, 2008 at 9:12 pm | Permalink
“Steven,
“Look down your nose all you want.
“There is no way you could ever survive, financially, and do what I do.
“You do not have the required skills.
“Or the integrity.”
Paul,
The only truthful comment you make here is that I will always look down my nose at the sorry piece of shit you are. A liar with no shame, is what you are, you asshole.
Go f.ck yourself, the only chance for any pleasure in your pathetic life…
This round goes to BOXLOCK
Yes, the word NATIONAL office, would mean that only Condi and Collin have EVER rated that title.
And? Both got there by REPUBLICAN Appointments.
And? Bigot Pastor J. Wright thinks Condi and Collin are Uncle Toms!
Okay, Boxlock, you make a good point.
When Repukes want to find Uncle Toms who turn their back on their community and sell out to Whitey, they can indeed find them.
Condi Rice, Colin Powell, and Clarence Thomas prove only that selfish traitors to the common good know no color boundries.
And doncha just love the way the ‘Pukes use tokenism to try to show they aren’t racist. “Hey, I’ve got a black caddie, so there!”
Steven
How often do I cuss and call you names?
Most rational people, on that basis alone, would say that you are rather beneath me, and should be ignored.
You add nothing of value here, only insults and name calling and your own brand of bigotry.
It makes you feel better to look down on other people.
Isn’t that, by itself, a required personality trait of a bigot?
Interesting,
We are seeing the complete collapse of the democrat party’s ability to field a viable candidate!
Hillary will probably win PA, adding merit to her assertion that Obama can’t win in the general election. She’s right, he can’t.
However, if by some typical brilliant democrat political ploy, she manages to steal the nomination from the mulatto messiah she won’t be able to get enough of the black vote to win in the general either!
Has to really suck to be a democrat!
Capn
How many minorities did Bill Clinton ever promote to high office?
Well I’ve never seen Steven post about being recruited to beat up people in parks there paulie.
Are you a skinhead? The politics would sorta fit.
Oh, Paul,
You are so incredibly stupid, that your reply deserves no comment.
You know that, all who read here know that.
Sorry, I hurt your delicate feelings with a bit of cussing. I feel so bad about it… NOT!
And I STILL wonder if paulie isn’t the same guy I ran out of my yard with a water hose.
He’s mentioned it a couple times but never really confessed.
Maybe this happens to him a lot?
Capn. do you even realize how stupid your statements are…obviously not because you can’t keep your mouth shut.
Those people you call Uncle Tom, token blacks, also hold some of the highest education degree credentials, are the most articulate, didn’t require some give away entitlement to accomplish their very successful careers, and you just hate it because they did it pretty much on their own.
They didn’t turn their backs on their communities, they have shown what it takes to improve their communities, not becoming porch monkeys taking handouts from the government, or killing each other more than any other segment of society.
“We saw Trent Lott brought down for simply saying something nice about a fellow Senator as that Senator went into retirement.
“We saw another Senator brought down for making a comment about ‘Macaca’ that was not intended to be racial at all.
“Rush Limbaugh was hounded out of a TV Sports Show for simply stating that the press was going too easy on a Black Quarterback.
“Look, this is the world that LIBERALISM created!”
And this, folks, is exactly what Harry Frankfurt was talking about in his book, On Bullshit.
And I love the parsing of words in how you sum up every one of those incidents.
Obama did not say:
This country would have been better off if his pastor had prevailed in his presidential contest (you know, when Strom Thurmond was trying to defend segregation).
Obama did not use a racial slur against someone holding a camera on him (Econ’s claim that it was not racial is the very epitome of “bullsh*t”-saying what you want to be true based on your beliefs without any regard to whether it is true, or even credible).
Obama did not say a quarterback was overrated because of his race (a very stupid thing to say about Donovan McNabb).
What an excellent demonstration of reflexive shilldom.
And still Paulie the rascist bugger won’t comment on bud McCain’s accepting endorsements and money from bigots and kooks.
JR
You hateful idiot.
I have made so many citizens arrests I can not count them all.
My best friend, through Jr. High and High School, was a Tae Kwon Do Black Belt, 10 years older than me. (My favorite sparring partner was Black, by the way).
While still in Marine Reserves I took a job at Safeway, and often helped the off duty police officers and security guards. I even made 2, seperate “officer down” 9-11 calls.
I am a former EMT. I have given CPR twice. I used to know most of the cops in town. There were a few I never got along with very well.
After pulling a drug crazed shoplifter off of a security guard, I was asked to join a group of thugs.
Yes, they wanted me for what I used to be, a better than average street brawler.
I was offended and angry.
I told the cops that these punks were beating up gays in the park.
I made no effort to conceal my contempt for what they were doing.
And, the only reason I ever brought any of this up was to refute your constant attempts to paint me as something I am not.
Again, JR, what have YOU ever done for your fellow man?
What personal risk have you ever taken to protect those that you might not even agree with?
“However, you will not even allow a nice word to be said about Stom Thurmon, at his retirement?
“This is hypocrisy.”
If Senator Lott had said “I think Strom is a great guy” there would have been no controversy.
To say that this country would have been better off if Strom Thurmond had been elected president, considering the very context of that run, is something else entirely.
But then, reality isn’t really important to you is it?
And in fact, Senator Byrd is one of the politicians I most despise, and not just for his background. He is literally Senator Pork.
There are no McCain positives to talk about.
Boxlock, I am sure you know —
That is how the liberal plantation works:
If a Black person makes it in the “White” world, call them “Uncle Tom” or “Aunt Jemima”
Discourage Black people from working with Republicans, in any way.
Then, damn the Republican Party for not promoting enough Black people!
Hypocrites!
Duh I was a union steward like my father before me paulie. And in a “right to work” state like Kansas?
I OFTEN found myself defending people who would just as soon stick me in the back.
What happened with you and YOUR union paulie?
Management broke some of your windows and so you bailed on your fellow workers?
Econ, why do you play with these pigs? You know you’ll just get some of their dirt on you.
Of course, I’m asking myself the same question.
Kansas
As a Catholic I realize that a lot of very ignorant Fundamentalists out there do not know much about their own faith.
Hagee is an idiot.
I would still rather have Hagee vote for McCain than Obama or Hillary.
“After pulling a drug crazed shoplifter off of a security guard, I was asked to join a group of thugs.”
Oh BS!
Were the skinheads in the checkout line to see your heroics? Is THAT how you met them?
You should have taken a career in writing tall tales paulie!
Uh huh.
Pig references. Vintage JM aka “Regular” aka “Max”
“Hey Adolf? I saw this guy stop a shoplifter at Safeway. Man he would be a perfect recruit.”
“didn’t require some give away entitlement to accomplish their very successful careers”
Actually, that’s where you’re wrong, Boxlock, very wrong.
Uncle Tom Thomas was a huge recepient of affirmative action. As soon as he got in a position of power, he pulled the ladder up after him.
The hypocritical values these people hold is exactly what I’m talking about.
Obama wasn’t appointed by Whitey to anything. He was elected based on merit and character . . . just like he’s going to be elected to the White House.
“I used to know most of the cops in town. There were a few I never got along with very well.”
Were they black or gay paulie?
JR
You brag about spraying some poor guy with a water hose who came by your place, asking for your vote?
And you have the gall to call anyone else a thug?
You propose putting land mines on the border, to kill Mexicans, and you call other people “bigot”?
You are a joke, JR.
And, I have never lied on this Blog.
By now, I am sure you have researched much of what I have told you.
You would be all over me If I had ever lied.
You are the former Reagan supporter who wrote “Fritz and Tits call it quits” on the Blackbboard, at WSU, when Reagan won.
Then, you voted for Dukakis against Bush 1.
Then, you were a prolifer, yelling “babykiller” (you say) at pregnant women during the Summer of Mercy.
Then, you were a shop steward in your Union. But, your Union turned against you so bad you had to quit your job. — But now, you seem a bit conflicted about that Union experience.
You seem to love Unions but hate people, and, alas, Unions are run by people.
You are a joke JR.
Nobody believes you.
And? I do not think any of us care enough about you to worry what you think.
We just can not allow your lies and hate to go unchallenged.
“Yes, they wanted me for what I used to be, a better than average street brawler.”
Uh….
And they knew this?
How?
They saw you get ONE shoplifter and instantly considered you the Terminator?
GOD you are amusing paulie! This is like tetherball!
Capn
Caught you, you are wrong.
Obama actually FIRST got into office through legal action in the Courts.
Obama had the signatures of his rivals tossed out, and he ran UNOPPOSED the first time around!
DEAN DNC NIGHTMARE: THREATS FROM DONOR$ AS DELEGATE DISPUTE GROWS, Drudge
Don’t just love it as they are already headed toward white hot nuclear fission. Fission being the breakdown into lighter and lighter particles. That’s the Dems.
JR
You really do not comprehend how stupid you look, do you?
Your party is in deep trouble JR.
We are going through a very natural, cyclical recession, after 52 months of growth.
We are in an unpopular war.
Yet, it would really be a mircacle if the Democrats win.
You know that.
It makes you mad.
Take it out on your party, they screwed up, not me.
I’ve met more of the bloggers here than anyone else paulie.
And you?
Was it the management at Safeway that were the homophobes who recruited you to beat up people in parks?
You still have not explained fully just how it was you were welcomed and considered a valuable resource to thugs.
And NOW paulie you are in your own reality.
I bet that is not a nice place! Abortion is illegal. Gay people get beat up in parks. Black people are mistreated and the working people are paid next to nothing.
I’m glad it is just you in there. Because the fact is? You and yours are about to become politically marginalized for the rest of your life.
JR wants to kill Mexicans with land mines.
JR wants to abolish the State of Israel.
JR has stated, clearly, that he “hates” me and other Bloggers.
JR has laughed about spraying his hose on some poor sap who tried to pass Republican literature to him.
(He won’t say what year that was, since his party switching is hard to document, Reagan, Dukakis, Prolife, Labor Democrat, Independent yada yada)
JR has wished a stroke upon me.
JR has researched my marital relationship, and that of my children.
JR is a jerk.
He is, also, a VERY typical Democrat operative.
JR
You IDIOT
I saw at least 100 people per DAY at that store.
I have no control over what people say to me.
You laugh about spraying a Republican with a hose, who came to your porch to talk to you.
Are you a Republican, since that poor politician thought you might agree with him?
Well, I mean, if it ever really happened? Hard to tell, with YOU!
When did that “happen” JR?
How did you go, so radically, from supporting Reagan to squirting Republicans with your garden hose?
And, by the way, that would be considered a crime.
It was not me.
I would have arrested you.
I’ve reduced paulie (econ) to ranting his usual lies.
HE is a Republican operative and PROBABLY the guy I chased out of MY yard.
Seems he is holding a grudge about it?
He is frothing and I am laughing.
Dang paulie, I have said before and do again, if you didn’t exist here I’d have to invent you.
You are like Charlie Brown’s baseball team.
You are 0 and 999.
Thanks for the amusement and CONTINUED revelation of your character this evening.
Ta!
Econ,
You have accused JR of some very derogatory things, and claim he is almost less than human, but the extreme worst thing to have said of him, the thing that makes me recoil with revulsion is;
“He is, also, a VERY typical Democrat operative.”
That’s horrible!
Box
Every word I have ever said here, on this Blog, is true.
JR was successful, for awhile, chasing people off with these tactics.
It doesnt work with me.
This is not JR’s Blog, and I have nothing to be ashamed of.
His threats only make him look small.
How can this be?
The libs on this Blog claimed that Wright was not ON the Obama campaign, so HOW can Wright quit the campaign he was not “on”???
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23634881/
Obama and Wright are joined at the hip.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545277093135111.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
Econ,
Of course you realize I was having a little fun with you, tongue in cheek.
JR tried to do the same with me, run me off, quite a surprise when you’re new and posting for the discussion of ideas. It’s not his blog, he’s not even very interesting on it.
Now I don’t even take him seriously anymore, I’d feel sorry for him actually but…he deserves it, the sad situation he’s in. I think he chooses his lot in life. I just don’t know if it’s free will or some chemical imbalance.
It is amazing how much hate the DemLibs have for those that just want to live, running their own lives without the constant intervention and negative disruption of some damn government entity.
Box
Sorry
I tend to talk to the crowd rather than to individuals.
Never forget that many read these posts, who never post themselves.
— Of course, that is the ONLY reason we have to answer when JR Slanders or Libels.
Who cares what he thinks?
Got ya Econ, now have a good night. I’m headed for rest.
I need to get some sleep, picking up the three beautiful grandkids tomorrow. The wife and I will have them for Spring Break. I’ll need all the strength I can get, ha.
Well wishes to all….including JR.
Good grief, I check in here, and find the bloomin sock puppets talking to themselves. Must be signs of schizophrenia! LOL
;; = Chas?
“Boxlock” = “Regular” aka JM etc.
And poor paulie does not know when to quit.
You Obama supporters take note. I’m fighting your fight just because I enjoy making paulie look foolish.
“Box
Every word I have ever said here, on this Blog, is true.”
Some more so than others.
When you posted about being approached to be recruited as a thug? You WERE honest.
When you said you had email from someone else ABOUT me? You lied. And everybody knows it.
I and the blog and our readers respect “Boxlock” aka “Regular” only a little more than you paulie. (econ)
“Boxlock” is mentally deficient and on mind altering (steadying) drugs. YOU paulie are what you are and always have been. A spineless shill.
JR
You sent threatening emails to me, telling me to quit posting.
JR
You sent threatening emails to me, asking me who was paying me to post.
JR
You denied EVER sending me any emails.
JR
I PROVED you wrong!
—–
JR Rimel
Saturday, October 07, 2006 1:34 AM
” Mr.Rosell
Who is sponsoring you to post on the WEblog?
From the tips of your fingers…..
to the depths of a distant soul…..
words touch hearts
type carefully
J
—-
And the weird threat, “type carefully” from the man who laughs at the Tiahrts tragedy, and questions the marital relations of my children and myself?
Hold on, if Obama is supposed to be a Muslim then why is he being expected to distance himself from a Christian pastor? It seems the looney right has to create smear after smear.
Besides the Rev. Jeremiah Wright never actually said anything wrong but I guess since he doesn’t preach like boring white preachers and doesn’t have the same views as conservatives then he must be attacked. Conservatives might not realize this but Blacks can have a different perspective than Whites, especially those who grew up during the era of segregation.
And, fellow Bloggers
I deleted most of JR’s vile trash, as well as some trash that a “friend” of his sent me (probably one of JR’s own sock puppets)
The point is? JR Denied ever sending me ANY email.
Now that JR is a proven liar, I think we can put this issue to bed.
Paul F Rosell
You SAID you had and email from someone else ABOUT me. You lied.
Nope Econ - Square Peg here. Chas. is another poster.
I’ve been posting to political blogs and chatrooms for years Paul F Rosell.
And as I have said before, I am fairly sure I have encountered you before.
ARE you the guy I chased out of my yard?
He sure LOOKED like the guy I saw encouraging kids to lie down in front of cars at the “Summer of Mercy”.
Doug
If my mother was mugged by a Black man, twice, both times ending up in the hospital.
If I had my bicycle stolen, by a Black kid.
If my brother was stabbed with a pencil, in High School, during a racial fight he had nothing to do with.
If I was hit in the head once, for no other reason than being “White”
If I had a brick thrown threw my back window, close to WSU, because I came home from work one night, not knowing a race riot had broken out —-
Would that give ME the right to hate anyone?
Of course not.
And, though all of those things DID happen to me, I actually decided to join a multi-racial fraternity and have never allowed race to keep me from having business relationships, friends and even girlfriends of my choice.
There are some Black kids in this world, that call me “Uncle” and I am proud of that fact.
I will not back down in my demand for racial equality.
I will stand up to White and Black and Mexican and anyone else who preaches hate.
Is that why you capitalize adjectives as to race paulie?
Bigot and liar.
Endangerer of children for your own sick politics.
JR
You have no shame.
Tiller said, in a motion to the Court, that I did no such thing.
The kids involved say that I told them to get out of the street and away from the car.
The Supreme Court of the United States agreed with ME.
The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with ME.
I was given a new hearing.
The new Judge agreed with me and dismissed a lawsuit against me, originally filed by George Tiller.
Mayor Bob Knight later appointed me to the Wichita Traffic Commission.
My fellow Commissioners elected me President of the Wichita Traffic Commission.
Every politician in town and every reporter in town knew me well, at that time.
NOBODY believed the lies you just printed about me.
Your hate warps your reason.
JR
WE have been down this road before.
SEVERAL Black authors and journalists believe that the word “black” should be capitalized when “Black” refers to race.
I capitalize the word out of respect.
I was there paulie.
I saw what I saw.
I’ll go with my word over yours.
BS Paulie.
You capitalize black and white out of marginalization.
You are a bigot and the most despicable poster on this forum.
JR
You liar
You saw nothing.
This slander and libel of me has come up several times, over the last couple of years we have gone at it, on this Blog.
And — this is the FIRST time you claimed to have been there, on that day, and the FIRST time, you claim to have witnessed anything.
And, JR, there is video of the event, from a camera very close to the event, where you can barely hear me, over the background noise, yelling at the kids to get OUT of the street —
There is no way in HELL you could have heard what I was saying, JR, even if you WERE there, because the police officers and the US Marshals admitted that they could NOT hear, and —
They were closer than you!
You are a proven liar JR, and now, a desperate liar.
Uh huh.
Do you capitalize “White” out of deference or respect?
Liar and racist.
Oh Paul, was the pastor naming anyone in particular or referring to social injustices? From the clips I heard he was referring to unjust laws like the three strikes law, referring to Apartheid in South Africa and other social problems.
As usual you can display your complete ignorance in just one post. I applaud your efficiency.
Well I don’t claim to have proof that I subsequently deleted there paulie.
I was there. I heard and saw what I heard and saw.
Now YOU claim to have email from someone ELSE about me.
But….um it had a virus!,,,,but you opened it anyway!….But….you were afraid about the virus so you deleted it.
You are a liar Paul and the most hated poster on this forum.
And JR
I won that fight, in court.
I was never charged with a crime.
I won a lawsuit, filed against me, by Tiller.
And, Tiller even said, in writing, that I was not guilty of any crime.
And, JR, why, when I was President of the Wichita Traffic Commission, after this event, did the Wichita Eagle never attack Mayor Knight for appointing me to that post?
And, JR, why, when my fellow Commissioners voted unanimously to make me President of the Wichita Traffic Commission, did no one at the Eagle, and no TV reporter, ever question that decision?
Because I did the right thing, JR.
I stood against Operation Rescue and told them NOT to use kids in their protest.
I begged the kids to get out from under the cars.
And, I told the truth in Court, repeatedly.
And, the Judge I did battle with soon left the bench.
You lost this fight, JR.
You lost it badly.
JR, Paul may be a liar, he has lied on many occasions but he is also very ignorant of many things. So it may not be that he’s actually lying but his immense stupidity is just causing him to make things up and actually believe them. Or it could be a mental disorder.
I do here and PROUDLY proclaim that I will drive you from this forum Paul F Rosell.
You are a liar, a bigot, and and the most despicable poster on this forum.
I find NOTHING redeeming in you. You do not deserve to embarrass your own side and disrupt this forum.
Now, this is a knock down drag out fight that you cant even see on friday night fights! Where’s the bookie? I want to place a bet! LOL
It may in fact be possible that Paul is another incarnation of JM aka “Regular” etc.
Who can say?
“Paul” clearly does his side no good here.
Keep in mind Paul was fined for ethics violations:
http://www.cjonline.com/stories/041698/cyb_gop.shtml
Not a very trustworthy guy.
JR
This is not your Blog.
You are an insignificant and very sick person.
A human being deserving of civil rights yes, but— I have no fear that you would ever win against me, in any courtroom, in any bar room, in any ring, in any classroom, in any debate.
You “win” by chasing off the opposition.
Then, you think you own the Blog, because everyone who is left agrees with you.
(Well, not really, nobody else but you wants to legalize prostitution, blow up Mexicans with land mines, and abolish the State of Israel)
That is sick, to want to silence all opposition.
This Blog will only have ONE poster, YOU, if you really want everyone who posts to agree with you.
You are a sand box bully and nothing more.
Doug
Name a Democrat Treasurer who has never been fined?
It was not an “ethics violation” — the office Faxed our report and it did not all arrive.
We can prove the Fax was made.
How petty can you get?
Yes, I should have called, personally, to make sure that they had every page.
I did not.
Wow! Heavy stuff!
Again, take a look at the fines of any Democrat politician or political committee. They are like traffic tickets.
Unfortunate, but a cost of doing business.
Dayum! Good catch Doug!
I’ve been fighting this whackaloon so long I’m off my game and research.
So Paul F Rosell is not only a kook, he is a crook.
Killing you softly with my song these last 2 years paulie?
I think this is your last stand paulie. I really do.
I KINDA hope not. Since I know so much more on you now.
Oh Paul still thinks he’s being persecuted and his only excuse is that democrats commit crimes too. Was that your huge defense in court Paul? Pathetic as usual.
You’re a criminal Paul, get over it.
Sebelius fined:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/apr/28/sebelius_campaign_fined_violation/?state_regional
You’re a roach paul.
And I’ve been trying to step on you these last few years.
Your time grows short paulie.
Ask anyone. I get a hold?
I don’t let go.
So Paul you think you are innocent because a Democrat has committed a crime? Spitzer had sex with a prostitute does that mean you think it’s okay to have sex with a prostitute because a Democrat did it? Nice moral system but I suppose I’d expect that from someone with a criminal history of ethics violations.
So…was Paul on the public dime when he was possibly endangering children?
LOL
JR you are pathetic.
I know this Blog is your life, but I have some other things to keep me busy.
You lost.
Its over.
So is my victory lap.
Does anyone have a copy of that 10th Court of Appeals case where Paul was listed as one of the defense along with his terrorist buddies? The US 10th Circuit website only has cases going back to 1995 and Paul went to court in 1994.
Doug
What was the “crime”??
HUH?
An anal, exact, spitting hairs guy like YOU, Doug, should be more careful.
And, actually, a secretary of the Party was responsible, an employee of mine, at the time, for sending the FAX. The Party accepted responsibility and paid the fine, not me.
I stand by what I said at the time: The report DID arrive on time. It was just not everything that the Ethics panel later said that they wanted.
I thought they had the whole thing, the first time.
The Secretary claims she called, and asked if the FAX was received, and the answer was “YES” —
It was not worth going to court.
The Party paid the fine and accepted responsibility.
Big deal!
And Dougie Do Right —
A similar circumstance is bound to happen, on the Democrat side, this year or next.
I will book mark this and ask you how you feel about it, at that time.
Doug
You are not very bright.
The 10th Circuit ordered a new hearing on civil contempt and reversed Kellys ruling.
In fact, everything Judge Kelly did, concerning abortion protests, was reversed due to improper conduct by Kelly.
Then I got a notice in the mail, telling me the case had been dismissed.
Really Paul, it looks like you were the one fined so the court said you were responsible. Looks like you lied again.
And Doug
Again, if this was really an “issue” do you not think that some reporter, in Wichita or Kansas at large, would have jumped on it while I served as Wichita Traffic Commission President?
Running away while you call victory paulie?
And this one isn’t even my fight.
I just don’t like you.
And you are done here.
And you were a public official? This will be even more fun!
THANK YOU Doug!
Oh yes Paul, reporters are trying to completely dig up the dirt of traffic commissioners. They might get the Pulitzer Prize if they do a huge story like that. Paul, you really aren’t that important.
You are done here paul.
It’s just a matter of time.
And you are not even creative enough to hide under another nic. Even if you did, you’d be easy to pick out.
Maybe he already hides under another Nic?
I’m out to sleep.
But in morning my first look is to blood from Paul F Rosell in the water.
Then? This “junkyard dog” is going to tear that SOB to pieces.
Does anyone besides me see any similarity between Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr. pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright? What would Wichita Eagle be saying if John McCain was a member of the Westboro Baptist Church? Shame on you Wichita Eagle, Shame on you for your double standards!
“Right Angle” asks –
“Does anyone besides me see any similarity between Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr. pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright?”
Uhm.
No.
You’re the only one.
I do see similarities with the Reverend Wright and Paster John Hagee (who McCain is “proud” to claim as a supporter), who says the Roman Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. And I see similarities with the Reverend Mister Parsley who thinks “America was established to wipe out Islam.”
Jeremiah Wright is a battle-scarred veteran of the civil rights wars of the 1960s and 70s. Barack Obama represents one aspect of the fruits of Wright’s labors and acknowleges the struggles of African Americans of Wright’s generation.
But no one can rationally associate Obama’s political philosophy with Wright’s any more than one should assume McCain believes Catholics are a demonic cult or America was established to commit genocide against all Muslims.
This is a non-issue; a silly distraction on a slow news week. And it reeks of Republic Party desparation. The whole “Obama is the Muslim Manchurian Candidate” didn’t work, so let’s attack the out-of-context words of the man who led Obama to Christ.
Get your lies straight, for god’s sake! Make up your mind!
Ah…
But minds don’t really matter to the Republic Party anymore. At least not minds that think.
We all seen how forgiving the media, liberals, and Democrats were when Trent Lott clarified and apologized for his innocent comments about Strom Thurman.
Hypocrites.
Thurmond
The shine has come off!
Obama has follewed him for 20 years and NOW he sees the bad side of HIS pastor!
Nice timing closet Muslum.
People are looking for a different type of leader and got caught up in his carisma… but now the real Obamanation has surfaced. The pickens are getting very slim!
Econ101
Posted March 14, 2008 at 11:18 pm | Permalink
“I will stand up to White and Black and Mexican and anyone else who preaches hate.:”
Unless of course they are Republicans and then they get a pass. I can’t believe that this POS has any standing whatsoever in local politics.
I really wanted to comment on this topic but the last two-thirds of the posts are just “You’re a liar!” or “No, YOU’RE the liar.”
Who really cares?
Send these snotty little jabs to each other by private email but why post them here? No one cares about your petty vendettas.
If you must attack each other instead of the topic, you’re not too secure in your position. IMHO anyway.
Talk about destroying a decent topic.
As a supporter of Obama, let me say that this so-called Reverend is very vile, obscene and offensive. I have never heard remarks like that made in the pulpit of a church and if I ever did, I would get up and walk out the door and never look back. I think Obama has lots of explaining to do. I still support him fully but my comfort level has declined a bit. I want to know exactly what his relationship is with this filthy and disgusting preacher and what it will be in the future. He says he was not present in church when these remarks were made but it is a tad bit hard for me to believe that he did not hear about the remarks until recently. I know what my pastor says every week because, when I miss a service, I either catch it on TV or buy the CD from the bookstore. I also want to know if he exposed his wife and 2 kids to this hate monger.
J R, Posted March 14, 2008 at 10:57 pm |
“Boxlock” = “Regular” aka JM etc.
Jr, you are such a clown…a sick clown.
I don’t know who ‘Regular’ or anyone else that has the good sense to call you what you are, a mindless little punk of a DemLib that is so paranoid you think anybody that has a different opinion than you is the same person. Fella, you are sick and lots of people disagree with you.
I use my own nic, not that nics make a bit of difference, I mean after all they’re just a nic, and I use my own email address so the Eagle knows exactly who I am.
Go take one of your pills and go to bed, your mind is diseased.
Kev,
Very good and sensible post. Thanks!
I am not a Obama supporter, but then I’m not much of a supporter of anybody in this race.
I too really question Obama exposing not only his own mind but is wife and children’s minds to all those years of hate and racism. That really makes me question what he says now. Remember the old truism ‘one’s actions speak much louder than their words’. And a politicians words are not worth very much anyway.
Boxlick,
You didn’t learn much from your homeschooling, evidently. Let’s review, shall we, Boxlick?
Political officeholder = someone who holds elective political. That is, someone who received popular support for his or her office, whether legislative or executive.
Political appointee = someone who had his or her executive or legislative office given to him or her.
The fact that Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas belong to the latter and not the former category pretty much says it all about how ignorant you are, Boxlick. Or how intellectually dishonest, and how willing to say whatever you have to in order to avoid admitting your ignorance and lack of grounds.
Thomas and Rice, you wrote, “didn’t require some give away entitlement to accomplish their very successful careers.”
Oh, really? Wasn’t Thomas admitted to the College of the Holy Cross on a race-based preference system?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas
And with regard to Condoleeza Rice’s promotion from Associate Professor to Provost of Stanford University, former President Gerhard Casper said that it
“would be disingenuous for me to say that the fact that she was a woman, the fact that she was black … weren’t in my mind.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice
So, Boxlick, let’s review:
-Elective office = earning something
-Appointed office = having something handed to you
That the two most prominent African-American Republicans belong to the latter and not the former category says everything we need to about how the Party sees them: as servants and minions.
An excellent response by Barack Obama, by the way, and very consistent with what he has been saying all along (including his book, The Audacity of Hope).
OBAMA: “I was for Reverend Wright before I was against him.”
Gosh, I wonder what the headline would be if things were reversed and this was Hillary?
Randy, you should ask obama if he wants another pillow…
If this was Hillary, the headline would have been something like “Crazed Pastor Linked To Multiple Clinton Scandals”. or some such.
This guy isnt any better than mcclurkin. Just depends on who’s ox is being gored. Obama seems to align himself with LOTS of crazed religious bigots.
But, the sound is muffled by all those pillows I guess.
AND you obama supporters wanna whine about Clinton and her association with Ferraro?
he heh heheheheh HE EHHEHEHEHEHE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE
Pot, meet kettle.
Hell, I’m surprised there is even a thread on the subject. But you did a GREAT job of downplaying this Randy.
Compare this thread to the Ferraro thread and see what I mean. THEN tell me about journalists “in the tank” for Obama.
“Hell, I’m surprised there is even a thread on the subject. But you did a GREAT job of downplaying this Randy.
“Compare this thread to the Ferraro thread and see what I mean. THEN tell me about journalists “in the tank” for Obama.”
The comparison is easy. Ferraro, one thread.
Wright, two threads, one after the other. Not really a good example of downplaying.
That being said, it is interesting that Scholfield focused on the people (like those as Faux) who brought Wright’s comments up while he focused on Ferraro’s behavior. However, Wright’s comments were actually made awhile ago. Ferraro made her comments recently and DIG keep digging when she should have apologiezed and moved on.
Scholfield probably