Was it a simple fatigue-related mistake or a crack in his status as an expert on the Iraq war? “Al-Qaida is going back into Iran and is receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said Tuesday during a news conference in Jordan. After Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., whispered in McCain’s ear, McCain said: “I’m sorry; the Iranians are training the extremists, not al-Qaida. Not al-Qaida. I’m sorry.” Iran is a predominantly Shiite country believed to be funding Iraqi Shiite militants. Al-Qaida fighters belong to the Sunni sect of Islam. Shouldn’t a presidential candidate have that fundamental rivalry straight? “We all misspeak from time to time,” McCain later said.
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The picture speaks for itself. How many D’OH moments can this nation face? Four more years? Me thinks not.
D’OH !!!!!
You don’t “misspeak” the same thing four times in 48 hours.
The guy’s either senile or doesn’t know Shi’ite from Shinola.
He’s a foolish old goat. If we went to war with Albania he’d send out orders to bomb Alabama.
Durn ferriners all look alike anyway!
he’d send out orders to bomb Alabama.
Wouldn’t that make tiart and Boing happy?
‘bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran’
bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran’
Thanks for the translation, Reg. You’re right: that’s exactly what he’s saying. ‘Facts’ are irrelevant.
JimmyMac summed up McCain perfectly in his 12:17 pm post
“‘bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran’“
This keeps Iraq and security up front as an issue.
Anyone can make a mistake.
Obama thinks 10,000 people died in Greensburg, KS.
This is no big deal.
Besides, McCain is AHEAD!
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
… in his 12:11 pm post.
Besides, McCain is AHEAD!
D’OH!!!
Homer Simpson for President!!!
He’d do better than McCain. Just give him a doughnut and he’s side tracked. McCain on more war? Not so much. Doesn’t know who we’re fighting but by God he’s gonna give us more war.
This time if the president is suffering senility or age-related dementia do you think Cindy could be as Nancy was? Yeah, I don’t either. The world will know because Cindy won’t be capable of keeping it all together.
Prez Bush :” Y’all quite pickin’ on John McCain now, he just mis-spokenated. As y’all know, I do it all the timely. And I’ve only started one war!”
McCain is givin away his future strategery fer using nooklur weapons on Iran.
He should stick with the word tearists – covers all them middle easter types…
And of course, our dysfunctional national media helps McCain.
‘CNN’s Blitzer aired spliced video in support of false assertion that McCain “quickly corrected” Al Qaeda-Iran gaffe’
http://mediamatters.org/items/200803190012?f=h_top
“… CNN gave no indication that the video had been spliced or that any time had elapsed between McCain’s misstatement and correction.
Indeed, in between the two statements, McCain was reportedly “[p]ressed to elaborate” on his misstatement and reiterated: “Well, it’s common knowledge and has been reported in the media that — that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran. That’s — that’s well-known and it’s unfortunate.”
About a minute later, Lieberman whispered in McCain’s ear and that is when McCain then said: “I’m sorry. The Iranians are training extremists, not al Qaeda, not al Qaeda. I’m sorry.”
Neither Blitzer nor CNN chief national correspondent John King, who reported on McCain’s “misstatement” earlier on the program, noted that McCain twice falsely asserted in that same press conference that Iranians were training Al Qaeda members or that McCain had made that assertion the day before. “
If this was “a simple fatigue-related mistake,” should we wonder whether the position of POTUS would be tiring? Would there be potential future fatigue? What would the POTUS be doing next time he is tired?
Maybe Lieberman can be hired as his babysitter.
Regular
Posted March 20, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink…
…… “He should stick with the word tearists – covers all them middle easter types”.
He should stick with finding a nice retirement home that is not the White House.
This is little different from the rest of the GOP and their alQuada-Saddam-9/11-WMD bull. Last night I watched a GOP operative on CNN claiming that Andar Province was Shiite. Upon being corrected she basically said ‘oops.’
Oh well, I guess they all look alike to the NeoCons like McSame and Lieberman.
Figuring that so many of you liberals are relying on the opinions of Americans who can’t even point to Iraq on a map for being against the war, why would you care if McCain made a mistake like this?
Well, Nathan, since I rely upon no such people – although most neocons DO – I have good reason to care.
And I could find Iraq, Iran, Pak, Afghanistan, Nepal, Sudan etc on a map with no difficulty. I do have some difficulty keeping the four smaller of the former Soviet Central Asian Republics straight though. (Big Kazakhstan is easy)
why would you care if McCain made a mistake like this?
Because he will be dictating national foreign policy maybe?
So lets review here:
Obama makes mistake and it is shrugged off as being better for him because he really isn’t prefect after all! Yeah!
McCain makes an even more honest mistake or I should say he simply misspoke and it is proof of why he shouldn’t be President.
Oh how I love the double standards.
The other day I heard a journalist during a discussion on this topic. Mention that he has know John Mc Cain for over twenty years and said he could understand Mc Cain’s misspeak. He said that Mc Cain is not a detail kind of guy, he hates to be bogged down with the details. He is more a gut reaction kind of person on the bigger issues. Yes I know!
I think the problem that people are having is that he did not just mispoke once but in all four time saying the same thing. Once in a written statement.
As I pointed out yesterday, the terms “Al-Qaeda”, “terrorists” and “insurgents” has been so interchange so often that it might be easy to use one while wanting to say the other.
Sweet.
Not the first time McCain’s made this mistake, either. Heard on the radio yesterday that he “misspoke” about a connection between Iran and AQ a handful of times in the past couple weeks. This is just the latest example.
McCain’s not doing his campaign any favors with THESE kinds of mistakes, that’s for sure. Plays right into the Dems’ hands: McCain = McBush = Bush = Augustus Stupidus.
Certainly helps make the jump in logic, from “McCain: A Fresh Start” to “McCain: 4 More Years of Bush,” into little more than a baby step for swing voters.
Even the picture fits. It’s a given that Bush is an idiot, but whoda thunk he’s also typhoid Mary when it comes to passing along “D’OH” moments? Check that: Bush ain’t no typhoid Mary. No, that boy’s fully symptomatic. :lol:
Breaking news.
An aide to John McCain has been suspended from the campaign.
For posting the you tube videoes of Obama’s pastor.
Now McCain himself I suspect is addled. But he will have the best (worst) of the right wing attack machine on his side.
“Nathan” tap dances –
“McCain…simply misspoke and it is proof of why he shouldn’t be President.”
McSame “misspoke” four times in 48 hours, “Nathan.”
That isn’t a slip of the tongue, that’s a slip of the mind.
You’ve got a candidate who’s promising a Second Hundred Years War against an enemy he isn’t clear on.
Nathan posted March 20, 2008 at 1:46 pm
“McCain makes an even more honest mistake or I should say he simply misspoke and it is proof of why he shouldn’t be President.”
McCain “misspoke” at least three times in two days re the AQ having an Iran connection.
Knowing the different religous sects in the Middle East, and how they interact, is the first and most basic part of foreign policy.
What McCain did is like forgetting that “differences” in Ireland between Catholics and Protestants caused problems.
”
WASHINGTON (AP) – Republican John McCain’s campaign suspended a staffer who sent out a provocative video linking Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama to the comments of his spiritual mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
The staffer, a low-level aide named Soren Dayton, sent out a link Thursday to the YouTube video, titled “Is Obama Wright?” on the social messaging Web site Twitter.
The campaign suspended him a few hours later, although it wouldn’t say for how long.
“We have been very clear on the type of campaign we intend to run and this staffer acted in violation of our policy,” campaign spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said. “He has been reprimanded by campaign leadership and suspended from the campaign.”
Last month, McCain swiftly denounced the comments of a radio talk show host who, while introducing McCain, repeatedly called Obama by his middle name of Hussein.
The Politico, a Washington-based newspaper, reported that the two- minute video was the work of Lee Habeeb, a former producer of the Laura Ingraham Show, a conservative talk program. In the video, Wright’s most incendiary remarks are mixed with snippets from Obama speeches and interviews, which are edited to make the senator seem to be sputtering and unpatriotic.
McCain appears to be suffering from a Jekyl and Hyde divide as to how he wants to campaign.
m\Maybe he also knows how to keep his word. Just doesn’t know who is who in the Middle East.
Perhaps you Libs should worry about something other than McCain’s small goof.
RASMUSSEN POLL: McCain Now Leads By Double Digits:
McCain 51% Clinton 41%
McCain 49% Obama 42%
“Plausible deniability…………..”
McCain = Rove = Bush II.
Coming to a theater near you, in living wide screen color – Bush III!
If you’re into polls, here are several and even an average of the several.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
“fleettwood” spins –
“Perhaps you Libs should worry about something other than McCain’s small goof.”
“Small goof?!”
Try FOUR “small” goofs in 48 hours. From the candidate who claims his superior experience and knowledge of war makes him qualified to be Commander in Chief?
It’s as old as Sun Tzu that the first rule of war is to KNOW YOUR ENEMY!.
McBush is advocating a Second Hundred Years War against an enemy he DOES NOT KNOW.
Part of the problem that got us into this mess in Iraq is that the Bush administration did NOT know the difference between Sunnis and Shi’ites. The chaos that resulted was predictable – if you had any basic understanding of Arab and Muslim culture.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/03/19/mccain-camp-again-links-al-qaeda-to-iran/?mod=googlenews_wsj
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6581-2004Jun25_2.html
I doubt that Iran is training al qaeda, but their cooperative relationship is a matter of record.
Well, let’s see. . .
McCain, the Republican nominee, is on a world tour talking with world leaders and makes a small gaffe.
Meanwhile in Philadelphia Obama, the great democrat mulatto messiah, is throwing his grandmother under the bus.
Hillary is desperately working behind the scenes to somehow seat the Florida and Michigan delegates. Delegates that were disenfranchised by a democrat party too incompetent to effectively run a presidential primary.
Now the polls show that voters are rapidly becoming tired of the same promises the democrats have made for the last 40 years. They are now supporting McCain over Hillary or Obama by margins approaching double digits.
The fight in the democrat primary has been reduced to race and gender. 20% of Obama’s and Hillary’s supporters now say that they will vote for McCain if their candidate loses the nomination.
Has to really suck to be a democrat!
hehehehehehe
From your link, Outlander…………..
“It seems highly improbable that there’s broad Iranian support for al Qaeda figures.” For McCain to state “in a blunt way” that there is such a connection, he said, “is utterly misleading.”
“To support the claim, the campaign provided articles from conservative publications such as the Weekly Standard”
So, if I write that Outlander is helping alQuada that makes “their cooperative relationship is a matter of record.”
Actually, the relationship is also documented in the 911 commission report.
show the link and quote. The 9/11 report quoted a lot of unsubstantiated reports of that nature.
“Commission investigators found that Iran had a history of allowing al-Qaeda members to enter and exit Iran across the Afghan border. This practice dated back to October 2000, with Iranian officials issuing specific instructions to their border guards—in some cases not to put stamps in the passports of al-Qaeda personnel—and otherwise not harass them and to facilitate their travel across the frontier.”
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,664967,00.html
In our nomination fight, we Dems are just getting warmed up.
It’s gonna be a bloodbath on the right come November.
3/20/08
McCain 51%
Clinton 41%
McCain 49%
Clinton 42%
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history
I’ll bet McCain fights for as few debates as possible.
I don’t think he’s stable. And I think his handlers know that he could blow up in debate.
Somebody tortured in a prison camp all those years? You don’t make the guy President.
You see to it that he’s taken care of.
outlander – that sounds more like ducking a fight along their hinterlands than anything else. Sort of like cambodia did while we and the Vietnamese both went into their eastern wilderness.
Nowhere near as significant as what our ally Pakistan allows.
Wow, Max.
That is just terrifying for us Obama fans.
Because McCain was losing to Obama two weeks ago. But before that McCain was ahead. And four weeks ago Obama led, and then McCain pulled ahead. And again six weeks ago Obama was ahead, before McCain pulled ahead.
What part of “polls this far out don’t mean squat” do you not get?
J R – on that we part company. I don’t think his years as a POW has anything to do with this.
outlander posted March 20, 2008 at 3:15 pm
“I doubt that Iran is training al qaeda, but their cooperative relationship is a matter of record.”
Does Iran want al qaeda to gain control of Iraq?
And why didn’t McCain explain their “cooperative relationship”?
McCain said this after Lieberman whispered in his ear:
“I’m sorry. The Iranians are training extremists, not al Qaeda, not al Qaeda. I’m sorry.”
Did Uncle Joe forget to whisper about the “cooperative relationship”?
Maybe McCain should use cue cards, like the Letterman TV show monologue?
RASMUSSEN POLL: McCain Now Leads By Double Digits:
McCain 51% Clinton 41%
McCain 49% Obama 42%
*****
In CON World, 49 minus 42 equals “double digits.”
In the real world it equals 7.
Sheesh, you can’t make this stuff up.
Cool (or is it kewl?)! The elections are all over.
Now the senile man can clean up the mess bushco left.
Uh huh.
And Cindy can try to pull a Nancy and keep it all under cover.
Uh huh.
Well, that ought to end the Republican Party, don’t ya think? If it’s an uphill battle now…
Sounds fair to me!
Thing is, statements like McCain’s fit the Bush narrative: a president who’s in over his head when it comes to sorting out allies and enemies. Or more accurately: which good guys can be maneuvered into fighting world wars against obvious bad guys.
When you make mistakes like this, repeatedly, then you can’t blame all people, of any nationality, for concluding that a McCain presidency would just be 4 more years of Bush-style foreign policy f*ckups.
Same mistakes, same tin ear, same lack of care, same misplaced belief in those working for you as long as they display fawning loyalty, same arrogance, same willful ignorance coupled with pride in same. McCain just represents more Bush train wreck.
Pretty easy to connect THOSE dots.
Just out of hindsight curiosity, IF we had not invaded Iraq, would there be an al Qaeda in Iraq issue? An Iranian influence in Iraq issue? An Iranian training insurgents in Iraq issue?
I think not………………..
Sounds like we were better off with Hussein than we are now.
Let’s face it–any bearded dude from the mideast with a rifle is “Al Qaeda.” Nevermind if the Iranians speak Persian (Farsi) not Arabic which is an Indo-European language related to Greek. Nevermind if their predominante religion is Shi’a Islam as opposed to Sunni. Nevermind that they have battled the Arabic-speaking neighbors throughout the centuries (cf. Cyrus, the Great).
Nope. Beard + rifle + middle east = Al Qaeda in CON World.
The Bah’ais also originated from Iran, and a more peace-loving, pacifistic religion could hardly be imagined.
Doesn’t matter. Beard, Iran, Middle East = Al Qaeda.
Never mind that Iranians are not even ARABS, they are PERSIANS.
Jumping on McCain for his goof is understandable in this “war” for the presidency, but it is really nothing. Which, it so happens, is exactly what you people got. Nothing.
The election that was yours, isn’t.
Dear Mr. McGovern:
Any advise?
Yours,
Libs
Not goof.
Goofs.
Plural. :lol:
Maybe a youTube could be made of McCain?
Start with him singing(sic) “… bomb bomb Iran”.
Then his 1st false claim that Iranians are training AQ.
“… bomb bomb Iran” again.
His 2nd false claim that Iranians are training AQ.
“… bomb bomb Iran” again.
His 3rd false claim that Iranians are training AQ.
“… bomb bomb Iran” again.
His 4th false claim that Iranians are training AQ.
Then Uncle Joe whispering in McCain’s ear — and McCain apologizing, and admitting that he was wrong about the Iranians training AQ.
“Did Uncle Joe forget to whisper about the “cooperative relationship”?
Maybe McCain should use cue cards, like the Letterman TV show monologue?”
—————
I was trying to get their attention Cosmos, but no luck. He corrected it yesterday though. That McCain is a straight shooter. For a politician.
Branching out beyond the global cool… er uh warming issue I see. That reminds me, gotta check out more on that lack of recent warming in the oceans.
“on McCain for his goof”
Goof? That is what you call that, a “goof?”
McBush is as clueless as the original!
“Hank Price” shows his true (ahem) colors with –
“McCain, the Republican nominee, is on a world tour talking with world leaders and makes a small gaffe.”
Well, four “small gaffes,” on his tour of the Middle East which isn’t a “campaign” tour, but charged to the taxpayers of the United States. Just like his previous flak-jacketted stroll through an Iraqi market (surrounded by soldiers and gunships hovering above… a place he could not re-visit because of Iraqi violence). And John Sidney McCain the Third reveals, four times in 48 hours, that he doesn’t know who the “enemy” is.
Ah, but “Hank Price” goes on to offer –
“…the great democrat mulatto messiah…”
Sure Obama isn’t a Quadroon? Or an Octoroon, “Hank Price?” Maybe even a Quintroon?
Your use of the word “mulatto” is virulently racist.
The word’s etymology is from the Spanish for “small mule.”
Why be subtle, “Hank Price.” Go ahead and be honest with your true feelings. Call Senator Barack Obama “mud people.”
On his tour that we the taxpayers are paying for — tonight in London he is attending a fund raiser of the haves and have mores.
And, he is honorable? Uh huh.
Did anyone see him stumbling and shuffling around on the news today? I think it is possible he has suffered a stroke. This campaign season may have just gotten much longer. What does the Republican Party do with their winner take all delegates when their presumptive nominee is unable to speak at their convention? Talk about some disenfranchised voters!
Not the first time Hank has used that term either. Certainly wiggle room enough to speculate racism.
I don’t refer to Senator Clinton as the woman candidate. Nor do I see McCain referred to as the old white guy candidate.
Question should be asked: who’s whispering in his ear that Iran is training AQ? Which Bush neocon is behind the mischief that could lead McCain to “misspeak” at least 4 times publicly?
And people worry about what preachers say in church. Which, if you’re like me, when you were in church the whole sermon was, in the words of Michaleen Flynn, an exercise in plottin’ a little revolution for me (hence I no longer attend church).
Holy red herring, batman.
Seems to me that MY bottom line with presidential candidates whose fingers if successful will be proximate to the red button, when calculating the effect of obvious racism thundered by preachers vs the effect of obvious lies whispered by neocons, I’m FAR more worried about the lies of neocons.
Of course, I only say that because thanks to Augustus Stupidus we as a nation have been bitterly if neatly divided by an Iraqi, Nouri al-Maliki. Call me callous, but I for one have had my fill of neocon whispers and neocons plots. McCain gets his facts straight EVERY time or he’s Augustus Stupidus, Act III, in my book.
Thusly the ballyhooed maverick, accompanied by the solemn philosopher Lieberman, took a superfluous spin through Iraq so as to pose in front of a few cameras with a stern expression on his face (stay the course!), and couldn’t even get the sound bite right. (At least Cheney knows how to deliver the one-sentence, utterly meaningless, distortion.)
You can probably accurately view the little sojourn as a trial run for the campaign centerpiece, not unlike Giuliani’s battle plan of mentioning 9/11 about as often as men reportedly think about sex (no comment).
Whatever the reason behind the frankly weird mistake, one thing you can be certain of is a lenient chattering class on this subject, starting with stalwarts such as Brian Williams and Tim Russert.
For an initial take on Williams’s take on McCain, all you had to do was watch MSNBC the night of the Texas primary. At one point, someone asked Williams about the Republican nominee, and you’d have thought that Brian’s wife had only just given birth to a bouncing baby boy. The proud father’s eyes lit up and, wired for stereo, he held forth at length about the wonderkid from Arizona. It might have been Matthews who finally broke in for a commercial.
The same can be expected from Russert, who works the objectivity angle much the same way that McCain plies the maverick trade, with the central themes getting most of the play but not really holding up under scrutiny.
As everyone knows, it’s all in what you bring up for discussion, and all in how you frame the topic at hand. Russert, whatever his reputation for dishing out punishment equally, won’t be framing the Iraq discussion in a way that requires the maverick (more on that in a moment) to address what his war-mongering intentions actually mean for the country financially.
Maybe it’s just that TV people and newspaper people don’t dig math, or maybe they think the public won’t understand it even if they do bring it up. But since most of us are the lucky recipients of the war bill and right on schedule to pay for this lollapalooza till death do us part, and since McCain obviously plans to run on the, “stay the course the rest of forever; life sucks and then you die,” campaign slogan, the so-called objective commentators like uncle Russert and grandpa Williams will need to set their transparent biases aside long enough to ask their favored son to at least consider how the war affects the economy.
What’s it mean, on a daily basis, for people paying at the pump, what’s it mean in terms of interest down the line (we’re hosed), and what’s it mean in terms of health care costs for veterans. (Make your own list.)
To address the issue in its entirety, however, the maverick and his mouthpieces will need to be straight with the public. And mavericks will be mavericks. Just as no man is a villain in his own heart, a lot of dudes are probably mavericks when they go to bed at night, and dream the dream.
Maybe McCain, in working the maverick gambit, has sort of tapped into the unconscious somehow, especially all the guys out there who’d love to buck the system but have to pay their damn light bill instead.
One way or another, he usually gets a pass from Williams, Russert and the rest.
“Leave Iraq with our dignity intact!”
Hey, John? What about my wallet?
Has to really suck to be a democrat!
hehehehehehe
you have the blood of 4,000 dead american kids killed in the wrong country on your hands.
you must be proud.
or, just too stupid to understand the tiny little details.
Obama is officially running as a Black Man now. He suffered through 20 years in a black South Chicago church to earn his black ’street creds’.
As the ‘post racial candidate’ he has brought race front and center in his campaign for the democratic nomination for president.
He did it in a speech that emphasized his white and black heritage. In that speech he blamed everyone and gave everyone credit.
His solution? More government. There was no vision. There was nothing new. I was insulted by his typical, liberal, democratic race baiting demagoguery.
Sorry, I’m not the racist here.
Dearest Hank,
Are you posting on the wrong thread, by chance?
Well, Hank Price blows the racist dogwhistle, and tags Barack Obama as a “mulatto.” Is anybody surprised? Kind of reminds me–more than kind of, actually–of when Hank Price dismissed an article by Salon’s Gleen Greenwald by asking what a Jew like Greenwald could POSSIBLY have to tell a virtuous Gentile like Hank Price.
But I digress. Is anybody surprised that McCain has been caught in the same misrepresentation, twice, since this convenient conflation allows him to stack two dispatate enemies atop one another in the Wingnut hive brain? And given the effectiveness of this stacking of boogeymen, is anybody at all surprised that his campaign is now RE-AFFIRMING the claim that Iran trains Al Qaeda operatives?
“But while the McCain campaign is backing away from the specific claims about Iranian training of Al Qaeda, it is asserting that Iran collaborates with Osama bin Laden’s organization.
Mr. McCain’s national security adviser, Randy Scheunemann, told The New York Sun, “There is ample documentation that Iran has provided many different forms of support to Sunni extremists, including Al Qaeda as well as Shi’ia extremists in Iraq. It would require a willing suspension of disbelief to deny Iran supports Al Qaeda in Iraq.”
Responding to Mr. Scheunemann’s remarks, a senior foreign policy adviser to Senator Obama, Susan Rice, yesterday told the Sun, “It’s very bizarre.” She noted that Mr. McCain had “made the same statement three times in as many days. Surely he must know, as Senator Lieberman reminded him, that Iran is not engaged with Al Qaeda in Iraq. I don’t know if he is confused, or is he cynically trying to conflate Al Qaeda and Iran as Cheney and Bush did Al Qaeda and Iraq in 2002 and 2003?”
http://www.nysun.com/article/73277
So, McCain was against the story after he was for it, after all of which he was, again, for it. What a serial pandering old man–just the candidate for Hank Price and his ilk. He seems to have as much trouble as George Bush with the whoe “telling the truth” thing. No wonder he’s kissed Georgie’s ring and all.
“Obama is officially running as a Black Man now.”
Obama has always been Black. I don’t know why the obvious has to be pointed out to conservatives, but for some reason it just does.
On the other hand McCain hasn’t started running as the senile old coot who is clueless on foreign policy. He’s been doing that for over five years now.
Hank Price,
Serendipitously, my post was composed in response to your racist bleating upthread. And now I see you pronouncing unctuously in the affronted tones of someone who thinks he’s in a position to pass judgment. Imagine.
I figure that everytime someone like you calls someone like Barack Obama a racist, an angel gets its wings.
Dear CF2K,
I’ve not called anyone on this thread names. I’ve not called anyone a racist on this thread. I have merely pointed out the obvious.
You and other typical liberals cannot respond without calling me and other conservatives names. It goes to the utter bankruptcy of your arguments and ideas.
Mulatto is not a racist term. It is what it is. It is what he is. It is what he is running as. It’s all he has, embrace it.
Dear Hank Price,
Thank you for this advertisement from the Republican Party.
Hank Price,
As usual, you’re all about the plausible deniability. Everybody in America KNOWS Barack Obama is of mixed-race descent; only you and your ilk seem to feel the need to call attention to it. Wonder why that is, Hank Price? Wonder why you think it is so important that it has to be constantly mentioned, Hank Price?
As for having “not called anyone on this thread names,” Hank Price, I do recall a certain acronym (ESAD, which means ‘eat shit and die’)that you hurled at me in a moment of anger, and that you then denied having intended for me to follow as your advice.
Give it a rest, Hank Price. The nice-guy “civility” act you put on when company comes is transparent to anybody who’s been around this blog for any length of time. Your use of racist designators is cleverly designed to afford you plausible deniability, but, really, Hank Price, who else but someone who wants to blow the racist dogwhistle would make a point of referring to Obama as “mulatto” and Glenn Greenwald as a “Jew?”
You’re completely predictable, Hank Price, and your use of racist ear-worms is well-known and well-understood ’round these parts. If you want to play that game, Hank Price, be a man, get ready to deal with the very harsh pushback that such racist rhetorical games occasion.
Dear CF2K,
On this thread I have not called anyone names. The usual liberal nitwits throw the word ‘racist’ around so much that it isn’t even an insult anymore.
Read Obama’s speech. He embraces the black racist Wright and throws his white grandmother under the bus.
This same-old-same-old democratic race baiting demagogue is going to be your candidate for president. He will probably end up as president if the republicans don’t start running against his ultra liberal/socialist positions.
Get used to apologizing for this nitwit, he’s all yours!
Hank Price,
It obviously pleases you, as much as possible, to be able to write the words “the black racist Wright.” It also obviously displeases you that Obama was able to see more than one side of a woman who helped to raise him.
I wonder why you identify with Obama’s racist grandma, Hank Price? The question answers itself, does it not?
Given your subtle, sleazy word games, Hank Price, your attempts to play the race card could not be more impotent and laughable. They will resound in the ears of other racist Repubes like Max, Boxlick, and the like. But it is pretty clear what while you all are talking to each other, in your little racist circle-jerk / coffee-klatch, Barack Obama is talking to America.
Hank, Oh Dearest Hank,
In English Comp class, or in literature class, somewhere way, way back in the depths of your non-education, teachers may have addressed exploring complex issues through language. Perhaps they had cell phones back then, and you were texting your sweetie in place of listening. Just in case you’re not catching my drift? Obama’s speech went right over your head.
Here’s your grade: D-
Best,
McSorely
Hank Price posted March 20, 2008 at 6:47 pm
“You and other typical liberals cannot respond without calling me and other conservatives names. It goes to the utter bankruptcy of your arguments and ideas.”
That’s from Hank Price, who responds to science and facts, by calling people “nitwits“.
“Mulatto is not a racist term. It is what it is. It is what he is. It is what he is running as. It’s all he has, embrace it.”
There’s nothing “racist” in that sentence. /sarcasm OFF.
Let’s try this version:
McCain is an old white guy. It’s all he has, embrace it.
Plus McCain does not seem to even know the basics about the religious sects in the Middle East.
CF2K, the Muppet poster, only plan is to try and discredit the post of others by assigning names.
It means:
(1) CF2K is incapable of cogent argument so he assigns inflammatory terms such as racist, homophobe, religious fanatic etc.
(2) CF2K is can’t help himself because he is a Muppet and Muppet’s don’t know from anything.
(3) CF2K is a radical left liberal who only know how to hurl insults and spark blog flame wars by attacking what other posters write instead of using his brain to write something original.
And thusly, the prediction that the Obama campaign from about 1 month ago when Obama gained the lead would have every comment towards Obama considered as racist, no matter what the words were.
It proves now that the assertion that Obama is now running as a full fledge Negro instead of a Presidential candidate.
And that’s a shame that the Radical Left has devised this scheme all by themselves and will live and die with it.
(chortles)
He embraces the black racist Wright and throws his white grandmother under the bus.
Only in the mind of Hank Price could this insane spin have any validity. Apparently, “cringing” at racist stereotypes from a loved one is the equivalent of betrayal. Denouncing a similar loved one’s bizarre ranting is, apparenrly, not.
By the way, practical definition of ‘black’ (and it’s anything but new): See what happens when you try to hail a cab.
And the “scheme” JimmyMac, is that the best way to deal with a problem, is to first recognize the cause of that problem.
I think Hank looks down his nose equally at anyone that isn’t Hank or family.
Ann Coulter used the “throws his white grandmother under the bus” phrase — so it’s okay for Hank Price to use it.
And Obama says he wants to work with these people?
cosmos,
I once told Hank Price, on this blog, that (and I quote) “I wouldn’t f*ck Ann Coulter with Hank Price’s dick.” Judging from Hank Price’s robotic recycling of her vile spin, he seems not to possess a simliar scruple.
On another note, how about those employees at the State Department who illegally went trolling through Obama’s passport file? As Josh Marshall notes, “the days of the fishing expeditions were the breaches occurred Jan. 9th, Feb. 21st and March 14th.
That would be the day after the New Hampshire primary, the day of the Democratic debate in Texas and the day the Wright story really hit.”
talkingpointsmemo.com
Between that and Uncle Dick going to Iraq and throwing money at the Shiite government to secure the go-ahead for U.S. troops to stay indefinitely, I’d say the Administration is working all the angles for its designated successor (read: ‘pool boy’) John McCain.
Looks in after watching BB game at Players. (Go Cats!)
Yuck. Sees the liberal attack machine doing what it does when it’s got nothing. (Personal attacks.)
Back to BB.
Just saw that on Olbermann, CF2K. Interesting.
Hopefully this will focus the race back on
Worst.
President.
Ever.
The Muppet poster CF2K sets the standard for all Radical Left Liberals with his comments in 8:09pm post.
It appears the mentality of said group has not arisen out of the gutter from Middle School vulgarities.
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cosmos asserts knowing the cause of the problem…
I not only know the cause, I know the source – the Radical Left Liberals assignment terms of racists, homophobes or religious fanatic are the source of the problem and also the cause.
They throw around the terms like a cigarette butt outside of a bar.
It’s so standard to hear these accusations from the Radical Left it because ‘white noise’ and ineffective.
But, you know, besides lying and re-inventing history, it’s all they got.
Outlander is popping his weasel head up from the CON World rabbit hole. Say hello to the Mad Hatter for us, won’t ya?
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Fox News is showing long clips of Rev. Wright over and over. The funny thing is, they’re getting his message out for him. You can’t buy this kind of PR.
The other thing is, nothing Wright says actually attacks whites, let alone is “racist.” He condemns America for past and present racism and sexism.
He condemns the Clintons, but hell, so do the CONs . . .
Heh, Regular is so offended by profanity.
After those years in the military, he just can’t handle that kind of language.
:roll:
Hey, Regular, this Easter may be the first time a woman pastor gives the sermon at your “non-political” Southern Baptist Church.
Oh that’s right, only people with a Y chromosome are allowed to be pastors in your “non-political” church.
Hank Price posted March 20, 2008 at 7:32 pm
“Read Obama’s speech. He embraces the black racist Wright…”
Hank Price seems to have a reading comprehension problem.
BTW: Reverend Wright served for six years in the U.S. military — the U.S. Marines, and in the U.S. Navy as a cardiopulmonary technician.
And what’s McCain got? A war, baby, a war.
Go over to Iraq, yeah man, and tell everybody about the guys in Iran, and man, like, they’re going back over to Iraq, and then in Iraq, it’s like, dig, they’re going back to Iran, man. And it’s weird like that. And they’re out to get us. And I’m your man, man, cause I’ll get ‘em!
Actually Capn, one does become ‘immune’ to profanities in the military, in a military environment, outside of the public view or in front of ‘mixed’ audiences.
Say what CF2K said to a superior NCO or Officer and he would find himself in deep kimsche.
Say what CF2K to a another GI and they may invoke ‘fighting words’ and the ‘ass stomping’ would ensue with probably help from their buddies.
Even the most ‘rough hewn’ soldier, airman, sailor or marine knows when to park their profanities. Evidently, CF2K and most of the radical leftist libs do not.
Yep Capn, jimmymac is deeply offended by any and all profanity posted on this public blog.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/judge-a-candidate-by-his-pastor/#comment-316598
Point out the expletive profanities used in that post cosmos.
You’re such a weak sister and out of your league cosmos.
Go home and play with your dolls.
Do you believe your horsesh!t, Regular?
Or is it just for public consumption?
Poor jimmymac thinks(sic) that “any and all profanity” = only “expletive profanities”.
Mark Twain stated:
“Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.”
Notice the key words Under certain circumstances
To use expletives as a point of discussion say more about the user than it does the recipient.
It indicates a weak, undisciplined mind unaware of social boundaries.
I think we’ll be seeing more of McCain’s effort at the Beach Boys tune, and his apparent confusion over who’s the friend of our enemy when it gets down to one on one campaigning. But I expect there will be many more McCain bushisms before then.
Who knows, it may even play out like Gore/bush debates, where it looks like the intellectual is beating up on the intellectually challenged! Good for empathy/sympathy with the rank and file repubs.
Jon Stewart is showing Bush administration officials talking about the walk in the park Iraqi War is . . .
Cheney, playing a dead-on imitation of the Penguin from the Batman series, responded to a reporter’s question: “Two thirds of the American people oppose this war.”
Cheney’s one word answer: “So?”
four days in a row…
oopps, i did it again.
little johnny, like bush, tells lies,
and lies,
and lies,
and lies,
and lies.
Hank Price posted March 20, 2008 at 7:32 pm
“Read Obama’s speech. He embraces the black racist Wright…”
you’re too dumb to respond to.
oh look, i can lie like bush, cheney, mccain, and the rest of the repukes.
vote for me.
i got this bridge in ny i want to sell you.
hell, that’s too easy.
i got a great little war i want to sell you.
it will pay for itself with the oil in iraq.
we will be greeted as liboorators.
we will change those araabs to be good christians.
they will embracccccce us.
we will set them so free.
no, really.
outlander,
“Liberal attack machine.”
Project much, outlander? Given your apparent inability to see the 24/7 destroy Barack Obama news cycle these last few days, it’s pretty clear that your court vision is as bad as ever.
“Manners” rather than morals: it’s all the Right’s got.
A few weeks ago I would have bet that the Dems had this election in the bag. Now it looks like they face defeat by a demented old man. Way to go, Dems!
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