John McCain was the big winner in Tuesday’s primaries. He clinched the GOP nomination, and Mike Huckabee finally conceded. Plus, the Democratic nomination battle continues, which helps McCain by costing his opponents time and money. On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton’s big win in Ohio and an apparent split decision in the Texas primary and caucuses gave her campaign a big momentum boost. However, it didn’t change the math. Clinton’s wins did little to close Barack Obama’s delegate lead.
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I think Sebelius is a loser with this result. She campaigned in her family home state for Obama. Didn’t seem to help much.
Agreed Ben. We already KNOW she has no coattails in Kansas.
Now we see she has none in Ohio either.
“John McCain was the big winner ”
Which makes the world the big loser. God save us.
mcCain is immaterial. The Democratic candidate will be the President. The republican party has seen to that. And Bush the 2nd.
Woof. God DAMN mccain’s wife has that Stepford look in her laser sharp eyes, no? Barbie with a lump of coal where her heart should be. Drugged out? Or just taking orders? You decide…
And WHEN are we gonna hear from Randy’s favorite NEWSMAKER, jill docking, about how well governor leadership did for obama in Ohio?
I mean, we do CARE what the jillster says on all things sebelius, dont we?
(evil grin)
If you liked George, you’ll LOVE John! Got his arms wide open for a big SHRUB hug!
Why would McCain want Bush’s endorsement? Can someone explain that to me?
John McCain’s Foriegn Policy: This is your New Vocabulary in the Dictionary:
Rule # 1: In the Middle East, it is always the Arabs that attack first, and it’s always Israel who defends itself. This is called “Retaliation”.
Rule # 2: The Arabs, whether Palestinians or Lebanese, are not allowed to kill Israelis, either soldiers or civilians. This is called “Terrorism”.
Rule # 3: Israel has the right to kill Arab civilians, this is called “Self-Defense”, or, if the dead Arabs are by the hundreds, “Collateral Damage”.
Rule # 4: When Israel kills too many civilians. The Western world calls for restraint. This is called the “Reaction of the International Community”.
Rule # 5: Palestinians and Lebanese do not have the right to capture Israeli military, not even a limited number, not even 1. This is called “Kidnapping”.
Rule # 6: Israel has the right to capture as many Palestinians as they want (Palestinians: around 10000 to date, 300 of which are children, Lebanese: 1000 to date, being held without trial). There is no limit; there is no need for proof of guilt or trial. This is called “War on Terrorism”.
Rule # 7: When you say “Hezbollah”, always be sure to add “supported by Syria and Iran “. this is called: “Axis of Evil”.
Rule # 8: When you say ” Israel “, never say “supported by the USA , the UK and other European countries”, for people (God forbid) might believe this is not an equal conflict. This is called “Helping our Friends”.
Rule # 9: When it comes to Israel , don’t mention the words “occupied territories”, “UN resolutions”, ” Geneva conventions”. This could distress the audience and is called “Anti-Semitism”.
Rule #10: Israel has done more with it’s society and government in progressing to modern age technology, successful economy and a Democratic government than the Palestinians have in the last 2000 years.
In fact, the Palestinians are still stuck in the stone age as they use the ‘tribal model’ (AKA - terrorist groups) to terrorize their own people and others.
The Palestinians are their own worst enemy.
The Palestinians had a democratically elected government until the neo-con-cabal which controls the White House destroyed it.
John McCain III attended a private boarding school, where he was nicknamed “McNasty” for his willingness to fight. Later, at the US Naval Academy, he gained a reputation as a ladies’ man, complained that he was picked on by his commanding officer, and graduated 894th out of 899 in his class.
oh no —- barely a C student — remind you of some one else?
Hamas doesn’t want any peace; conflict keeps them in power and the money (and weapons) flowing from their Syrian and Iranian sponsors. There is, of course, only one necessary precondition to peace in the Arab/Israeli conflict: Hamas, Hezbollah, the Arab states, etc. have to recognize Israel’s right to exist in peace, and mean it. Once that is done, everything else is negotiable, and a deal, including an independent Palestian state, is reachable.
That, of course, is the sticking point; Hamas etc. will never agree to same. Doing so would undercut their reason for existance, their power base, and the flow of their goodies.
As usual, principle is only the fig leaf conveniently hidden behind as they seek to keep power and money.
And yes, Friedrick (I thought a good nazi-sounding name was appropriate), I know that for Israel there are similar incentives. The difference, of course, is that the Israelis don’t strap bombs to their children and intentionally attack women and babies. It is Israeli towns who are being attacked by Hamas rockets (supplied by Iran). Hamas knows how to play the game: attack Israeli towns (launching from inside your their own towns, hiding behind women and children, of course), provoke the inevitable and understandable response from the Israelis as they try to stop the attacks, and play the victim with the world media. And much of the world media is sucker enough to buy into it. As are you.
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AS TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND: The big winner is US!! When’s the last time a convention went past the first ballot? When the hoopla actually meant something? Enjoy, folks, we may get to watch something historic.
Way to go, HIllary. Now, let’s keep this virtual tie going all the way to the convention. Wouldn’t you like to be a fly on Howard Dean’s wall? A race in near-deadlock, a looming brokered convention, “superdelegates” who, it turns out, are not that “super” at all (if they are to just follow the popular vote, why have them at all?). The Clinton campaign is trying to change the rules in the middle of the game (what a surprise!) regarding what to do with Michigan and Florida . . .
Having some fun now, huh?
Hey, we should be glad that Huckabee isn’t in the running anymore. That zealot got what he deserved. And I can’t believe that we, the State of Kansas, actually “voted” for him..
The difference, of course, is that the Israelis don’t strap bombs to their children and intentionally attack women and babies.
Right. They just run over homes, people, and anything else in their way with bulldozers. They basically put their enemy in their own version of the Warsaw ghetto.
If you think Israel is clean of misdeeds, you’re a bigot. Both sides continuously go beyond the bounds of humanity. Is it any wonder Israel is as modern as it is? Thanks to U.S. funding a country with a long list of U.N. sanctions, Israel has everything it needs and wants, including nuclear.
Israel used the compassion of others because of the Holicaust to do whatever they want.
Obama still has a lead of 101 delegates, thanks to the Texas caucuses, bringing the total to 1,562 for Obama to Clinton’s 1,461. Close, but Hillary is still behind.
holicaust=holocaust
For all of the hype about Hillary’s “comeback” she only gained about 12 delegates yesterday - about 1% overall - nothing to get too excited about.
As for John W McBush? As I have said before, that photo of him hugging Bush around the waist (how tall is McCain, 5′2″?) is going to be ALL over the media come November.
Ya’ can’t BUY advertising like that. Obama or Clinton is going to be painting McCain with the George W Bush brush throughout the campaign - and McCain has YET to take a step back from the current administration - you know, the one with a 19% approval rating.
RD,
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Oh, and GMC70? Given your disingenuous association of anti-Likud = anti-Semite, what do you think about John McCain’s sucking up to anti-Semitic bigot John Hagee, and his refusal to repudiate Hagee?
RD - and don’t forget bombing hospitals and a UN observation post in Lebanon. Not to mention carpeting the region with civilian-targeted cluster bombs - courtesy of the USA.
You far left people are so funny, with your made up statements, and your cross-references. Makes me laugh!
RD, WS:
It’s already been said; it’s still true:
Hamas knows how to play the game: attack Israeli towns (launching from inside your their own towns, hiding behind women and children, of course), provoke the inevitable and understandable response from the Israelis as they try to stop the attacks, and play the victim with the world media. And much of the world media is sucker enough to buy into it. As are you.
Indeed. As are you.
Sorry, WS, that shouldn’t have beed directed to you. Old habits die hard, I guess!!
To: RD, CF:
It’s already been said; it’s still true:
“Hamas knows how to play the game: attack Israeli towns (launching from inside your their own towns, hiding behind women and children, of course), provoke the inevitable and understandable response from the Israelis as they try to stop the attacks, and play the victim with the world media. And much of the world media is sucker enough to buy into it. As are you.”
Indeed. As are you.
And RD: “Clean of misdeeds?” No, no one is, this side of heaven. But who the aggressor party is in this conflict is clear to anyone without blinders on.
GMC70,
Then I suggest you take off your blinders.
GMC70,
Good job avoiding my question about John McCain’s embrace of a raging anti-Semite, and why this doesn’t tarnish his reputation the way that Farrakahn’s unsolicited endorsement seems to have tarnished Obama’s.
Oh, and one more thing: I’m a Jew. Don’t try to dictate to me the proper or correct take on the actions of the Israeli state, thanks.
By your fractured logic, GMC70, the Labor Party counts as anti-Semitic because they advocate dealing with Hamas. I understand perfectly well Hamas’ tactics, but I also am willing to affirm the ability of the Israeli government to engage in unprovoked aggression against Palestianians.
That’s more than I can say for what appears to be your unconditional willingness to turn a blind eye (in this and in so many other things, GMC70) to Israeli-perpetrated acts of state terror.
You understand far less than you think you do, GMC70. You’re in no position to impute views to me or to anyone else.
“LR” posted –
“John McCain III attended a private boarding school, where he was nicknamed “McNasty” for his willingness to fight.”
Actually, according to current CONservative tactics, we should now refer to him as John SIDNEY McCain the Third.
*SIDNEY?!*
Talk abiout a wimp of a middle name!
Ha!
*SIDNEY!*
“Later, at the US Naval Academy, he…graduated 894th out of 899 in his class.
It’s gonna be interesting to see how the RepubliCONS swallow their principles to come back to John *SIDNEY* McCain the Third. He was for immigration before he was against it, against torture before he was for it, and promises a hundred years war in Iraq.
The Labor Party eh CF2K. Let’s see, Ehud Barak is very high in the Labor Party, let’s see what he has to say about Hamas.
“Defense Minister Ehud Barak said during a closed-door meeting with aides yesterday in Jerusalem that Israel has begun preparing “the international community” — foreign officials involved in negotiations with the Palestinian Arabs, including a former British prime minister, Tony Blair — for a “large ground operation” in Gaza, several Israeli press outlets reported.
“If there is one more fatality, Israel may have to go in,” a Western diplomat who asked not to be named said. Since the killing Wednesday of Roni Yihye by a rocket from Gaza — the first such Israeli fatality in several months — a growing number of Israeli officials, opinion makers, and politicians have searched for ways to counter the increasing accuracy and range of the Palestinian Arab rockets.
“This is not an easy decision, but it may be necessary. We have to break the Hamas military power,” a former Israeli deputy defense minister, Ephraim Sneh, told The New York
http://www.nysun.com/article/72110
I understand fine, CF. You’re easy to understand; rather than understand someone else’s point of view, you choose to denigrate and call those who disagree with you ignorant. It takes a special kind of self-centered arrogance to equate disagreement with ignorance.
And I don’t care one whit about your religious persuasion.
Oh, and a self-correction: at present, specific members of Labour and governmental ministers like Ami Ayalon advocate speaking to moderates within Hamas. There doesn’t appear to be a general Labour policy on the matter.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7060530.stm
Regardless, the idea that you end conflicts by not talking to your enemies doesn’t seem to have worked terribly well up to now, does it, GMC70? Hamas is in a strong position, and all the Bushite/Likudnik temper tantrums in the world won’t change that.
GMC70,
I acknowledged the part of your position that was accurate; I guess it’s too much to expect for you to concede in public that you’re being beaten in an argument.
I said you didn’t understand my position, and you manifestly don’t. Truth is an absolute defense, GMC70: if you don’t want to be called ignorant, don’t pretend to understand my position unless you deal with its specifics.
Still haven’t answered the question about John McCain’s anti-Semitic pals, I see. Is anti-Semitism, GMC70, something that only the Left can be accused of? There are 6 million murdered Jews who might beg to differ, victims, as they were, of RIGHT-WING anti-Semitism.
When you huff and you puff, GMC70, and evade rather than answering direct questions, it doesn’t enhance your image as a credible interlocutor.
“John *SIDNEY* McCain the Third. He was for immigration before he was against it, against torture before he was for it, and promises a hundred years war in Iraq.”
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Let’s see. Turns on truth detector.
Not sure about the “immigration” comment. Maybe he meant illegal immigration? Insufficient info.
The “torture” and “hundred years of war in Iraq” comments are lies/misrepresentations.
CF2K,
Comparing U.S. Citizens to a inhuman Nationalist Party in Nazi Germany is beyond the pale.
Failure to utilize proper debating tactics in a debate, doesn’t excuse erroneous and lame analogies that you have written.
You have won nothing and barely kept your head above the cesspool of assigning hatred on others who had nothing to do with political party and thuggery in a foreign land that wanted to occupy its European neighbors.
You lost any position you sought to gain, by your incompetent flailing.
GMC70,
And to take it a step further, what precipitated the rise of Hamas in the first place? What else, but the Sharon government’s discrediting of Fatah? As Henry Siegman wrote back in 2002,
“Is there a justification for an Israeli policy that remains fixated on detestation of Yasser Arafat and deliberately ignores major changes within Fatah and the Palestinian population, withholding any action that might help these constructive forces achieve dominance? In fact, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has resorted to measures that undercut Palestinians who seek to abandon violence and resume a political dialogue.”
http://www.iht.com/articles/2002/09/25/edhenry_ed3_.php
By doing everything it could to destroy the legitimacy of the Palestinian authority, the Likudniks guaranteed the rise of a more militant opponent. This, it seems to me, is what they wanted all along: a pretext for total war against the Palestinians.
That they now, belatedly, realize their error in having empowered Hamas as a client organization of Syria and Iran, is apparent from the attempts of their patrons in the Bush Administration to foment factional war in Gaza, and to re-empower Fatah.
“Vanity Fair has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power. (The State Department declined to comment.)
But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.-backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.”
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804
In other words, GMC70, you completely misunderstand the nature of what brought us to this point, and the ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ game that Likud and its backers in the Bush Administration have been playing.
That you cannot concede this historical Bushite/Likudnik backstory, whereas I CAN concede Hamas’ tactics and disingenuousness, suggests that I am in the stronger argumentative position, both with regard to historical accuracy and argumentative consistency.
McCain, thanks for helping send those tanker jobs to France. If it wasn’t for your McCain Amendment they’d be all made in America. And thanks to Roberts and Brownback for voting with you.
Signed,
Frenchy McFrench
Lou Dobbs just spent ten minutes on air cussing out Bush and McCain for crapping on the American worker with their tanker deal going to the French.
McCain and Bush outsourcing American jobs and national security to the French is going to stick like sht on McCain and his fellow Republican travelers.
Now, even Tankerless Todd is parting from McCain with his website whining and crying about what McCain/Bush did!
Excuse me…John Sydney McBush.
wait, shouldn’t the free market decide?
er…isn’t that always the neocons say?
Ralph Nader said that the kill ratio is 1 Israeli to 300 Palestinians.
Now who is the real terrorist?
And the rest is neocon cabal Zionist spin.