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		<title>By: Mervin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-337393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mervin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mervin...&lt;/strong&gt;

All I can say is WOW! Extremely nice Free Mp3 Download, awesome graphics and great articles. No matter how many times I come here, I am still impressed by the very professional appearance. Congratulations on a job well done....</description>
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<p>All I can say is WOW! Extremely nice Free Mp3 Download, awesome graphics and great articles. No matter how many times I come here, I am still impressed by the very professional appearance. Congratulations on a job well done&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: What Are Three Major Stock Markets In The United States</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Are Three Major Stock Markets In The United States</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What Are Three Major Stock Markets In The United States...&lt;/strong&gt;

Since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli...</description>
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<p>Since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: No Fax Payday Loans</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-330302</link>
		<dc:creator>No Fax Payday Loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;No Fax Payday Loans...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Tax Efficient Investment</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-329927</link>
		<dc:creator>Tax Efficient Investment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tax Efficient Investment...&lt;/strong&gt;

This article sounds well, but how everything is related together?...</description>
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<p>This article sounds well, but how everything is related together?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: account recreation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-329575</link>
		<dc:creator>account recreation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;account recreation...&lt;/strong&gt;

Very interesting post.  A little bit confusing, but still ok.  do you know what is the first? i`ve the new album at my blog http://sumpit.info...</description>
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<p>Very interesting post.  A little bit confusing, but still ok.  do you know what is the first? i`ve the new album at my blog <a href="http://sumpit.info..." rel="nofollow">http://sumpit.info&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So.. does the logic here dictate we stop ALL imports from China? Or just the ones that affect alternative energy?

good luck with that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So.. does the logic here dictate we stop ALL imports from China? Or just the ones that affect alternative energy?</p>
<p>good luck with that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert West III/Pub</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-321191</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert West III/Pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$3600 million is $3.6 billion!!!!!!! Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$3600 million is $3.6 billion!!!!!!! Herbert West III <a href="mailto:west.herb@yahoo.com">west.herb@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: JWink</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-321117</link>
		<dc:creator>JWink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electric power plants and ethanol manufacturing plants gulp our pristine clean drinking water from our Kansas deep underground Ogallala aquifer stratas. 

ELECTRIC POWER PLANTS AND ETHANOL MANUFACTURING PLANTS GULP OUR PRISTINE CLEAN DRINKING WATER FROM OUR KANSAS DEEP UNDERGROUND OGALLALA AQUIFER STRATAS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric power plants and ethanol manufacturing plants gulp our pristine clean drinking water from our Kansas deep underground Ogallala aquifer stratas. </p>
<p>ELECTRIC POWER PLANTS AND ETHANOL MANUFACTURING PLANTS GULP OUR PRISTINE CLEAN DRINKING WATER FROM OUR KANSAS DEEP UNDERGROUND OGALLALA AQUIFER STRATAS.</p>
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		<title>By: John Galt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-321050</link>
		<dc:creator>John Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Innovest is owned by Gulf Investment House. 

Gulf Investment House K.S.C. (GIH) is a Kuwait-based private shareholding company engaged primarily in investment activities and related financial and advisory services. The Company&#039;s products and services include direct investments, private equity, real estate, investment funds, structured finance, corporate finance and advisory services. Its activities are based on Shari&#039; a compliant principles. GIH&#039;s subsidiaries within Kuwait are Bonyan Holding Company, Afkar Holding Company, Marasi Holding Company and Tamaluk Holding Company. Gulf Investment House has investments in Gulf Cooperation Council Countries, Europe and the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Innovest is owned by Gulf Investment House. </p>
<p>Gulf Investment House K.S.C. (GIH) is a Kuwait-based private shareholding company engaged primarily in investment activities and related financial and advisory services. The Company&#8217;s products and services include direct investments, private equity, real estate, investment funds, structured finance, corporate finance and advisory services. Its activities are based on Shari&#8217; a compliant principles. GIH&#8217;s subsidiaries within Kuwait are Bonyan Holding Company, Afkar Holding Company, Marasi Holding Company and Tamaluk Holding Company. Gulf Investment House has investments in Gulf Cooperation Council Countries, Europe and the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-321039</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler Durden posted March 27, 2008 at 5:07 pm 

&quot;&lt;i&gt;This is complete BS, and not a particular objective study.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Then list any errors that you found in their report.

http://www.innovestgroup.com/images//sunflowerreport_032708.pdf 

Crickets chirping... chirp... chirp...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler Durden posted March 27, 2008 at 5:07 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;<i>This is complete BS, and not a particular objective study.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Then list any errors that you found in their report.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.innovestgroup.com/images//sunflowerreport_032708.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.innovestgroup.com/images//sunflowerreport_032708.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Crickets chirping&#8230; chirp&#8230; chirp&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wiseman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320975</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think that those solar reflection plants would work well here.
You know those ones that reflect sunlight onto a central point and turn water into steam to power a generator.
At the same time, the steam can be collected and recycle back into water, no waste there.
Imagine having them on everyone&#039;s rooftop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that those solar reflection plants would work well here.<br />
You know those ones that reflect sunlight onto a central point and turn water into steam to power a generator.<br />
At the same time, the steam can be collected and recycle back into water, no waste there.<br />
Imagine having them on everyone&#8217;s rooftop.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320968</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Seems to me though, to be a little of a colonial attitude going on here. So, if we obtain the raw material for these solar panels (polysilicon)at the cost of the health of Chinese people, is that ok,...&quot;

    Well pick a side and stay there outlander!

    You are all ok with the US securing &quot;our&quot; oil interests in the middle east. But here you wanna get haughty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seems to me though, to be a little of a colonial attitude going on here. So, if we obtain the raw material for these solar panels (polysilicon)at the cost of the health of Chinese people, is that ok,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>    Well pick a side and stay there outlander!</p>
<p>    You are all ok with the US securing &#8220;our&#8221; oil interests in the middle east. But here you wanna get haughty?</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320966</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds pretty straight forward to me as an institutional advisory group, and not activist.
&quot;Innovest Strategic Value Advisors was founded in 1995 with the mission of integrating sustainability and finance by identifying non-traditional sources of risk and value potential for investors.  Our analysis is designed to assist our clients in constructing and managing portfolios that out-perform the market. We do this by tracking company performance and strategic positioning on over 120 factors that are not captured or explained by the traditional, accounting-driven securities analysis.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds pretty straight forward to me as an institutional advisory group, and not activist.<br />
&#8220;Innovest Strategic Value Advisors was founded in 1995 with the mission of integrating sustainability and finance by identifying non-traditional sources of risk and value potential for investors.  Our analysis is designed to assist our clients in constructing and managing portfolios that out-perform the market. We do this by tracking company performance and strategic positioning on over 120 factors that are not captured or explained by the traditional, accounting-driven securities analysis.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Durden</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320963</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Durden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy Randy, you are an IDIOT!  THis is NOT a financial advisors group, it is a Global Warming Cheerleader.  From their &quot;Partners&quot; page:

&quot;The Carbon Disclosure Project (CDP) provides a secretariat for the world&#039;s largest institutional investor collaboration on the business implications of climate change. Innovest has been selected to undertake the research and analysis of the Global Report, which is now backed by institutional investors with $31.5 trillion assets under management, since its inception.&quot;

They are vested ACTIVISTS, and YOU a &quot;Journalist&quot; could not find out that particular &quot;fact&quot;????

Here is their Website, Look around, can&#039;t you just smell the propaganda?  This is complete BS, and not a particular objective study.

http://www.innovestgroup.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=blogcategory&amp;id=32&amp;Itemid=65</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy Randy, you are an IDIOT!  THis is NOT a financial advisors group, it is a Global Warming Cheerleader.  From their &#8220;Partners&#8221; page:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Carbon Disclosure Project (CDP) provides a secretariat for the world&#8217;s largest institutional investor collaboration on the business implications of climate change. Innovest has been selected to undertake the research and analysis of the Global Report, which is now backed by institutional investors with $31.5 trillion assets under management, since its inception.&#8221;</p>
<p>They are vested ACTIVISTS, and YOU a &#8220;Journalist&#8221; could not find out that particular &#8220;fact&#8221;????</p>
<p>Here is their Website, Look around, can&#8217;t you just smell the propaganda?  This is complete BS, and not a particular objective study.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.innovestgroup.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=blogcategory&amp;id=32&amp;Itemid=65" rel="nofollow">http://www.innovestgroup.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=blogcategory&amp;id=32&amp;Itemid=65</a></p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320920</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>outlander,

I do not think that China&#039;s pollution problems are &quot;ok&quot; -- but basically it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; their responsibility to clean up their act.

The U.S. could try to force them to change by boycotting their products until they do so.  But it&#039;s a global economy, and they could just sell to other markets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>outlander,</p>
<p>I do not think that China&#8217;s pollution problems are &#8220;ok&#8221; &#8212; but basically it <i>is</i> their responsibility to clean up their act.</p>
<p>The U.S. could try to force them to change by boycotting their products until they do so.  But it&#8217;s a global economy, and they could just sell to other markets?</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320917</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American Way posted March 27, 2008 at 2:21 pm

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Open your wallets and insert your foot.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Become more energy efficient, and make your wallet fatter.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;I wonder what the legislature will spend all that new revenue on?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Fund energy audits to lower demand, and lower utility bills, like Boulder CO is doing.

Another proposal is to use carbon taxes to help reduce payroll and/or income taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Way posted March 27, 2008 at 2:21 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Open your wallets and insert your foot.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Become more energy efficient, and make your wallet fatter.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>I wonder what the legislature will spend all that new revenue on?</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Fund energy audits to lower demand, and lower utility bills, like Boulder CO is doing.</p>
<p>Another proposal is to use carbon taxes to help reduce payroll and/or income taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320909</link>
		<dc:creator>outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info on cooling Cosmos. 

Seems to me though, to be a little of a colonial attitude going on here. So, if we obtain the raw material for  these solar panels (polysilicon)at the cost of the health of Chinese people, is that ok, because &quot;The Chinese are responsible for their pollution problems&quot;??  I mean, I know they have a lot of people and could probably spare a few but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info on cooling Cosmos. </p>
<p>Seems to me though, to be a little of a colonial attitude going on here. So, if we obtain the raw material for  these solar panels (polysilicon)at the cost of the health of Chinese people, is that ok, because &#8220;The Chinese are responsible for their pollution problems&#8221;??  I mean, I know they have a lot of people and could probably spare a few but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320904</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>outlander - even with some nice trees the ROOF still gets a lot of sun - especially warehouses etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>outlander &#8211; even with some nice trees the ROOF still gets a lot of sun &#8211; especially warehouses etc.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320899</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>outlander,

The Chinese are responsible for their pollution problems.

Are you going to have tree branches hanging over the entire house?
Good luck during a heavy ice storm.

Use light-colored shingles.  Have balanced ridge and soffit vents, then in the attic, staple radiant barrier to the rafters below the roof sheathing.

The radiant barrier blocks infrared -- and causes a &quot;chimney&quot; effect.  Heated air rises out thru the ridge vents, pulling outside air in thru soffit vents.

Plug all air leaks from the house into attic, and add more insulation.

Also,
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=solar-cells-prove-cleaner-way-to-produce-power
&quot;But a new analysis finds that even accounting for all the energy and waste involved, PV power would cut air pollution—including the greenhouse gases that cause climate change—by nearly 90 percent if it replaced fossil fuels.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>outlander,</p>
<p>The Chinese are responsible for their pollution problems.</p>
<p>Are you going to have tree branches hanging over the entire house?<br />
Good luck during a heavy ice storm.</p>
<p>Use light-colored shingles.  Have balanced ridge and soffit vents, then in the attic, staple radiant barrier to the rafters below the roof sheathing.</p>
<p>The radiant barrier blocks infrared &#8212; and causes a &#8220;chimney&#8221; effect.  Heated air rises out thru the ridge vents, pulling outside air in thru soffit vents.</p>
<p>Plug all air leaks from the house into attic, and add more insulation.</p>
<p>Also,<br />
<a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=solar-cells-prove-cleaner-way-to-produce-power" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=solar-cells-prove-cleaner-way-to-produce-power</a><br />
&#8220;But a new analysis finds that even accounting for all the energy and waste involved, PV power would cut air pollution—including the greenhouse gases that cause climate change—by nearly 90 percent if it replaced fossil fuels.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320885</link>
		<dc:creator>outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CapnHalfTruth: 

You really have a head in the sand mentality don&#039;t you? You know if you don&#039;t want to know the truth, you can cover your eyes or plug your ears and shout. Responsible people want to look at the costs and benefits of any option. For example, ethanol.  Great idea. As it turns out, not so good. And some folks also might care about the Chinese people, even if you don&#039;t.

So CapnHapfTruth, please engage your brain before you start lecturing me again. You are boring me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CapnHalfTruth: </p>
<p>You really have a head in the sand mentality don&#8217;t you? You know if you don&#8217;t want to know the truth, you can cover your eyes or plug your ears and shout. Responsible people want to look at the costs and benefits of any option. For example, ethanol.  Great idea. As it turns out, not so good. And some folks also might care about the Chinese people, even if you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So CapnHapfTruth, please engage your brain before you start lecturing me again. You are boring me.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320879</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only outlander could twist logic so that solar power becomes a major polluter.

Look, dipswitch, Kansas gets as much sunlight as Florida.  As far as wind, we&#039;re freaking Saudi Arabia.

We are uniquely situated to lead the nation in both of these growth industries.

What we need now are political leadership.

And for idiots like you to get the hell out of the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only outlander could twist logic so that solar power becomes a major polluter.</p>
<p>Look, dipswitch, Kansas gets as much sunlight as Florida.  As far as wind, we&#8217;re freaking Saudi Arabia.</p>
<p>We are uniquely situated to lead the nation in both of these growth industries.</p>
<p>What we need now are political leadership.</p>
<p>And for idiots like you to get the hell out of the road.</p>
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		<title>By: American Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320878</link>
		<dc:creator>American Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon Credits? Carbon Tax?
Sometimes you get what you ask for.

Open your wallets and insert your foot.

I wonder what the legislature will spend all that new revenue on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon Credits? Carbon Tax?<br />
Sometimes you get what you ask for.</p>
<p>Open your wallets and insert your foot.</p>
<p>I wonder what the legislature will spend all that new revenue on?</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320858</link>
		<dc:creator>outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much more power you would get from solar roof panels in the summer compared to cost of cooling you have to pay for instead of having good shade tree or two.  Then of course you have to figure the cost of the panels.  And the plants in China that produce most of the polysilicon used in the world are a terrible polluters.

&quot;Polysilicon is an essential raw material in the production of solar cells for panels that convert sunlight to electricity for homes, businesses and farms&quot;. 

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/solar_pollution_china.php 

Another &quot;ethanol&quot; type solution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much more power you would get from solar roof panels in the summer compared to cost of cooling you have to pay for instead of having good shade tree or two.  Then of course you have to figure the cost of the panels.  And the plants in China that produce most of the polysilicon used in the world are a terrible polluters.</p>
<p>&#8220;Polysilicon is an essential raw material in the production of solar cells for panels that convert sunlight to electricity for homes, businesses and farms&#8221;. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/solar_pollution_china.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/solar_pollution_china.php</a> </p>
<p>Another &#8220;ethanol&#8221; type solution?</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320854</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a ratepayer out here when the first Holcomb plant went on line. We paid out the wazoo. Far higher costs than our city cousins. Then demand dropped and the cost of gas went down, and Sunflower was ALMOST forced to declare the Holcomb plant a &quot;stranded asset&quot; that qualified for some financial benefits. Almost thirty years later, I cant remember the details but I think it included REA loan forgiveness, and some other relief.

But then, demand picked up, prices change, and since I&#039;ve moved back, my rates are higher than urban, but not as far out of line as they used to be.

Maybe they have the &quot;stranded asset&quot; strategy as a backup? Maybe such a thing doesnt even exist anymore. Not my area of expertise.

But maybe some of you smart folks know?

In any event, looks like the ratepayers of Sunflower&#039;s member cooperatives are gonna be the cash cow. Again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a ratepayer out here when the first Holcomb plant went on line. We paid out the wazoo. Far higher costs than our city cousins. Then demand dropped and the cost of gas went down, and Sunflower was ALMOST forced to declare the Holcomb plant a &#8220;stranded asset&#8221; that qualified for some financial benefits. Almost thirty years later, I cant remember the details but I think it included REA loan forgiveness, and some other relief.</p>
<p>But then, demand picked up, prices change, and since I&#8217;ve moved back, my rates are higher than urban, but not as far out of line as they used to be.</p>
<p>Maybe they have the &#8220;stranded asset&#8221; strategy as a backup? Maybe such a thing doesnt even exist anymore. Not my area of expertise.</p>
<p>But maybe some of you smart folks know?</p>
<p>In any event, looks like the ratepayers of Sunflower&#8217;s member cooperatives are gonna be the cash cow. Again.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/holcomb-plant-would-put-ratepayers-at-risk/#comment-320853</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep - and as noted Southern California, like Wichita, tends to peak-use for air conditioning - i.e. when hot and sunny.  Just adds yet another &#039;non-traditional&#039; energy source to the mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; and as noted Southern California, like Wichita, tends to peak-use for air conditioning &#8211; i.e. when hot and sunny.  Just adds yet another &#8216;non-traditional&#8217; energy source to the mix.</p>
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