End of one inquiry leaves others

abortionprotestanti.jpgIn the end Monday, the Johnson County grand jury created by anti-abortion activists declined to indict Planned Parenthood and also withdrew its subpoena to obtain additional medical records. What looks like a conclusion really isn’t, though, because Johnson County District Attorney Phill Kline’s 107-count criminal complaint against Planned Parenthood is pending, activists can just collect more signatures and force another grand jury, and Kline is not one to take “no” for an answer when it comes to probing abortion clinics. Meanwhile in Wichita, Sedgwick County’s grand jury continues to investigate George Tiller.

34 Comments

  1. J R
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Uh yeah.

    I don’t think anyone in the picture there is going to find themselves pregnant.

  2. Ben
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Round and round we go …

  3. Posted March 4, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    …wheels on the bus go round n’ round…

  4. American Way
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    I voted to throw this rascal Kline out of office, only to have bible-thumping republicans (as opposed to true conservatives) appoint him locally.

    Clown Kline needs to pick up his marbles and leave.

    Can’t wait for an AG to put a priority on crime fighting.

  5. American Way
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    End this witch hunt. End the invasion of our privacy.

  6. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    I posted this last night on another thread:

    Parkay, what was it you were saying again?

    That’s now HOW many Grand Juries? And HOW many times you’ve lost?

    It’s time that abortion providers start fighting back. Sue the pants off the orgs that keep harassing them.

    That means you Parkay.

    The scary thing about it is, they can be proven innocent over and over again, and they don’t have the whole double jeopardy law to protect them like in a real court. Second, it’ll take only ONE grand jury of the ‘right’ people to turn it all around and open the door for the OR folks, no matter how many times they’ve been found innocent.
    That’s what OR is banking on, they’re waiting to roll snake eyes.

    Lets get citizen grand juries outlawed in Kansas. Sucks that Christian terrorists are ruining a normally good decent democratic process.

  7. parkay
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Nothing whatsoever was proved by the Johnson County grand jury that failed in its investigation of Planned Parenthood’s various criminal misdeeds. The judge and prosecutor made shady back-room deals with Planned Parenthood shysters to doctor and withhold the subpoenaed criminal evidence. This was no investigation at all.
    The next grand jury may likely investigate Judge Kevin Moriarty’s judicial misconduct.
    There will be more grand juries to investigate Planned Parenthood’s filthy, unsafe, criminal second-trimester abortion mill, and judges and prosecutors who are not so corrupt.
    There will indictments, convictions, and prison sentences for criminal abortionist quacks.
    There will be justice.

  8. RD
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    You’re dreamin’ as usual, parkay.

  9. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    see, it’s time to shut em down. Now threatening a judge? Wow.

    That takes some serious cajones, slick.

    It’s all a conspiracy Parkay. We’re all trying to kill women in these filthy abortion clinics…we’re just very very bad at it. And you play the knight on the white horse to save the women from themselves.

    God you’re pathetic.

  10. TRUTH
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Poor old PUKE-KAY just doesn’t know when he has been beat. Like a rented mule!

  11. Posted March 4, 2008 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    So Parkay (representing the nutters) promises to waste more taxpayer money with harassing trials. I suppose it’s an improvement over the previous tactics of stalking (which will soon by outlawed), assault, assassination and bombing. However I expect they’ll resort back to their nature once the courts realize it’s a bad idea to put innocent doctors in prison.

  12. Jed
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Hey, let’s start a petition to force a grand jury investigation of Por Que?’s Operation Terrorist Rescue. Let’s look at their financial records, computers, e-mails, phone records, print orders, criminal and medical records of their personnel, connections with known terrorists, search them for weapons and explosives, photos and /or maps of possible targets of violence, etc. Let’s see how much they pay their lawyers and where they got the money to pay them. Might also be interesting to see what OR pays Por Que? and how much actual work he does for OR. I know that sounds like a lot, but given their expertise in concealing wrongdoing, it should only take a week at most.

  13. Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Jed, maybe they’ll just post all that info on their website. Afterall, if they’ve done nothing wrong then they have nothing to hide.

    However, once I revealed the evidence they were filtering donations through a shell business which was a PO Box they owned they quickly changed that PO Box location. Looks like they do have something to hide.

    But don’t bring this up to Troy, he gets really, really violent but that’s his nature as a religious fundamentalist who employs terrorists.

  14. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    hey lets DO call a grand jury investigation of them…and phill kline to boot.

    And we’ll use the same premise, we know they’ve done something wrong, we just gotta find it.

  15. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Need to figure out some potential crime to investigate, then get enough signatures. Of course, the still to be decided legal issue over subpoenas duces tecum will need to be resolved. Just a thought.

  16. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    How many sigs are needed VT

  17. Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Once the new anti-stalking law goes into effect the police can arrest members of Operation Rescue when they go to the homes of clinic workers or the day care and school locations of their children. Unless, of course, the city decides to allow some more exceptions of the law for the religious zealots.

  18. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    P_M, you’ll need to look up the statute; I’m about to leave, or else I’d give you the cite.I believe it is K.S.A. 22-3008.

  19. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    How about we investigate how much money is coming from abstinence only funded programs and other programs like from the Choices clinics?

  20. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    It doesn’t even have to be true, we can just think of anything that we can say we’re investigating that’s criminal, that’s how they play it.

    We could say we’re investigating them for the death of girls from suicide who joined with OR because they were guilted to death….pushed to their suicide from OR.

  21. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Lets investigate how many women who had abortions are part of OR…since their ministers told them their repayment for an abortion is to protest abortion in order for god to forgive them?

  22. J R
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Wow

    That is as close as parkay has ever come to a post of his own.

    Will standing up for a post be next?

    Nah. He’s a shoot and scoot.

  23. Jed
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    P-Mom,
    One of OR’s protesters was a woman who claimed she’d had six abortions in her misspent youth, so she had six kids to make up for it. Anyone who’d had six abortions never had the smarts to raise a kid anyway, let alone six!

  24. killerpizza
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    “But the motion said copies of two of the tapes that Johnson County District Attorney Phill Kline’s office supplied were inoperable and a third was damaged during the time frame that Hall claims he was in the mall”

    dear phil,
    please stop your sick fascination with abortion and try working on real criminal cases.
    dumb azzz hootie religious freak.
    sincerely,
    taxpayers in kansas.
    kp

  25. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    (2) A grand jury shall be summoned in any county within 60 days after a petition praying therefor is presented to the district court, bearing the signatures of a number of electors equal to 100 plus 2% of the total number of votes cast for governor in the county in the last preceding election. The petition shall be in substantially the following form:

    The undersigned qualified electors of the county of ______________ and state of Kansas hereby request that the district court of ______________ county, Kansas, within 60 days after the filing of this petition, cause a grand jury to be summoned in the county to investigate alleged violations of law and to perform such other duties as may be authorized by law.

    The signatures to the petition need not all be affixed to one paper, but each paper to which signatures are affixed shall have substantially the foregoing form written or printed at the top thereof. Each signer shall add to such signer’s signature such signer’s place of residence, giving the street and number or rural route number, if any. One of the signers of each paper shall verify upon oath that each signature appearing on the paper is the genuine signature of the person whose name it purports to be and that such signer believes that the statements in the petition are true. The petition shall be filed in the office of the clerk of the district court who shall forthwith transmit it to the county election officer, who shall determine whether the persons whose signatures are affixed to the petition are qualified electors of the county. Thereupon, the county election officer shall return the petition to the clerk of the district court, together with such election officer’s certificate stating the number of qualified electors of the county whose signatures appear on the petition and the aggregate number of votes cast for all candidates for governor in the county in the last preceding election. The judge or judges of the district court of the county shall then consider the petition and, if it is found that the petition is in proper form and bears the signatures of the required number of electors, a grand jury shall be ordered to be summoned.

    (3) The grand jury shall consist of 15 members and shall be drawn and summoned in the same manner as petit jurors for the district court. Twelve members thereof shall constitute a quorum. The judge or judges ordering the grand jury shall direct that a sufficient number of legally qualified persons be summoned for service as grand jurors.

  26. Posted March 4, 2008 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like a good tactic, PMama… My best to you on the project!!

  27. Posted March 4, 2008 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    Huckabee bows out!! Hoooray!!!

  28. Mary Caruso
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Pissin’ in the wind….

  29. Posted March 4, 2008 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Huckabee’s speech is reflective of the Oak Ridge Boys’ song, “40 Hour Week” Neat way he used of getting around actual ‘quotes’ from the lyrics…

  30. Political_mama
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    There is primary thread..just saying :D

  31. Posted March 4, 2008 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    ooops sorry bout that — thought I was there!! LOL

  32. suzannekarmin
    Posted March 5, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    parkay
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    “The next grand jury may likely investigate Judge Kevin Moriarty’s judicial misconduct.
    There will be more grand juries to investigate Planned Parenthood’s filthy, unsafe, criminal second-trimester abortion mill, and judges and prosecutors who are not so corrupt.”

    Has this person ever BEEN to the PP clinic in question? I have. Very Clean. Very safe. Try getting some facts before making stupid comments…

  33. Posted March 5, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    “Has this person ever BEEN to the PP clinic in question? I have. Very Clean. Very safe. Try getting some facts before making stupid comments…”

    Since when did they ever need facts?

  34. kelly
    Posted March 5, 2008 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    I think the petitioners who caused the grand jury to be convened - over nothing it turns out - should be assessed the costs of the grand jury investigation. Losers in frivolous lawsuits get assessed with court costs, so why not these petitioners?

    Isn’t it also interesting that the report of the grand jury has recommended that the law be changed so as to require petitioners of grand juries in the future to demonstrate evidence of criminal activity before a grand jury can be convened? Gosh, it sounds like the grand jury didn’t think there was a credible basis to convene them. That isn’t a surprise for most citizens to learn.