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Where do kids learn this? From their parents.

Some of the meanest kids have parents who think their kids are better than everyone else.
They raise bullies, alpha males.

The opinion of the homeless has changed from the days of the depression when a good deal of Americans were suffering and the common people reached out to aid them. Feeling the sentiment of “But by the grace of God goes I!”, to one of seeing them as lazy, mentally ill or a surplus of useless humans. But each does have their own stories as to how it happened and not all have to do with drugs or drinking.

I still remember watching an interview where an entire family was living in their car. The Husband was laid off and the wife became ill. They loss their home and it was the middle eighties when there was a growing divide between those whom had a job and those whom did not. It is frightening how easy it is to fall that far.
Welfare becomes a trap where there is no climbing out if you want to. To make matters worst the lack of an address and phone number leave you undesirable to be hired so the problem continues.

At to why the upswing in crimes against the homeless, that may take more space then this blog would allow.
And my opinion would enflame many who like the status quo. I will hint though, at one time there was a moral core within the home who kept everyone there in line and provided an example for being a better person. But they did not feel that was a good job to have so they went in search of a better employment.

The point is not so much how many have been attacked compared to the general population. The point is that we have in this country a growing number of teenagers and young adults preying on the most vulnerable people in our society for no other reason than “fun” or “sport”. Who is next? Senior citizens.. disabled folks… young girls? This kind of behavior needs to be stopped NOW with the harshest penalties possible. By that I mean hundreds of hours of community service, actually serving the very people they harmed at shelters or at places like the Lord’s Diner. It is a blight on our society brought about by the total failure of the family unit. These young people are not being taught to respect themselves, let alone anybody else.

“Nationally, there were more than 142 unprovoked attacks on homeless people in 2007…”

142? In one year? Nationwide? EVERYBODY PANIC!!

Political_mama
Posted February 17, 2008 at 6:55 am | Permalink
Where do kids learn this? From their parents.

Some of the meanest kids have parents who think their kids are better than everyone else.
They raise bullies, alpha males.
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Man-Hater.

Why are some people so cold hearted? Can’t feel anything for these people? I don’t care if it’s one or one million attacks, it just isn’t right. I feel compassion for these folks. Why is that so hard?

It’s called perspective, libdave.

Toothbrushes don’t hurt people…

“It’s called perspective”

So we are only allowed to comment on the biggest problems in the world, and ignore those problems you don’t think rate your time and energy.

libdave, that would be yes.

Leave it to the WE Bloggers to make light of a very serious problem. There is nothing any more wrong with this generation than the last. Unfortunately, OUR generation has failed our kids by sacrificing their time and care to the gods of pride, power, prestige and entertainment. We would rather get that promotion and work 80 hours a week than be there for parent/teacher conferences or when little Johnny performs in the school play! We would rather come home and watch TV rather than help with the homework, or share dinner time with the kids. Or, worst of all, we would rather dump our spouse and kids because we do not want to be tied down anymore! Children learn by example and we are teaching them that failure is unacceptable and that our fellow man is not worthy of respect or assistance if they are down and out. When the going gets tough.. get out before you have to make a sacrifice. It’s all about YOU.
Like the Chase Bank commercial:
I want it all… I want it all… I want it all… and I want it NOW!!

Sad… where has brotherly love and kindness gone?

I want it all… I want it all… I want it all… and I want it NOW!! kansassam
Posted February 17, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

I’m not the one with my hand out waiting for you to do something for me.

When’s the last time you directly helped the homeless kansassam?

Those cops better stay focused on protecting my life and property in suburbia. Afterall, I am paying the taxes for their salary. Not some bum on the street!

Where does the “we care” liberalism end? I suppose you want MORE of MY MONEY to build homes for these bums. Someplace to put their food stamps and a freezer to put their free cheese in? A public bus to drive them back downtown so they can hang out in the alley until their ADVANCE EIC payment comes in?

“and entertainment”

Good point Rog. People like JR who can’t hold a job as a bag boy at Dillions, crys about not being able to find a job, and wanting FREE healtcare for his kid.

Yet, he has all day to blog on the web.

It must be a hard life, trying to promote more FREE MONEY, with his hand stretched out and a mouth full of “gimmee”.

And posting about his evil employers, supervisors, managers, and the satan CEO.

My heart bleeds purple polka dots for him and his kind (sniffle, sniffle).

Oh and their parents too.

For the record, I am my own poster with my own trait characteristics and I represent a view 180 degrees from JR, hence his autopilot post to mix and lump me with someone else.

He is either too stupid to recognize my posts as from someone else, or too shallow to consider there are more than one conservative poster on the weblog.

(sigh)

Actually JR, you took a shot at me welfare boy. American Way is himself and certainly not me.

I doubt if he wants to be me.

If we have a meet up, I want you to stand too close to me like you did ksgolfnuts, then you can see what happens. :)

JR, your pot shots are old and getting feeble.

All posters on this blog know all they have to do is email the editors who’s email is alongside this blog.

They can report nic-switching and posts they feel are inappropriate. The editors WILL observe, and do remove posts.

That I am still here attests to my being whom I say I am. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone. And you better believe, as a conservative on this blog, I HAVE been “checked out”. :-)

Naw, just spit. :)

All though, I would have to do it in a downward direction. :)

I am sure you are well accomplished at drooling James.

“If you can’t control your leftist libs, then stop whining.”

My one and only comment to you Regular. You are the problem child on here.

If there is one, I’ll be there if i can. Of course, everyone had a chance to meet me at Denny’s the other night. I was buying too. Could have had a steak on me.

I don’t know where American Way and Max live, so can’t say if we will ever been in the same room. Just like Sol - he lives in Michigan, I think. And Pedant lives in Virgina.

Okay American Way, I have a 3D house to model and the curvy surfaces are killing me. Be back later. :D

Bassed on JR’s “logic”, I can PROVE he is a pedophile. All I have to do is take some unrelated facts, and related them..and voila.

Let’s see..there are pedophiles that live in Wichita. JR lives in Wichita.

There are pedophiles that use the computer. JR uses the computer.

There are pedophiles that are awake during the day. JR is awake during the day.

There are pedophiles that use the word “and”, JR has used that very same word here.

There. “proof”. Now..all I have to do is repeat it a few dozen times to make my minions believe it.

And, of course, if JR disagrees, then I paraphrase Shakespeare: “methinks he doth protest too much”…meaning he is obviously guilty.

If he does not protest, then he silently proves my claims.

Simple, yes? Stupid, yes? That is the EXACT logic he uses to ‘prove’ that many different people here are the same person.

Regular, I am far from perfect. I leap like a frog many times when I get flamed.

You get it constantly and I don’t know how you put up with it.

But if you DO post personal information on the blogs, you are fair game for a personal attack of the information you reveal. Myself included.

There ya go James.

Call a meetup.

Max
Posted February 17, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

>>I’m not the one with my hand out waiting for you to do something for me.

When’s the last time you directly helped the homeless kansassam?<<

Uhhh… yesterday Max.. and today.. try clicking on my user name if you don’t know me and what I am all about.

Kanassam, how do you let others put down Christian republicans as not giving. In your ministry you must come up against the many Christ based help available for our homeless.

Chas Max’s question wasn’t part of the inquisition. It was simply a question. By the way what have you done for the homeless lately?

Major kudos Kansas Sam, definitely.

I did know your involvement nor your organization, but I do support it and will make a contribution, even though I am not a Christian.

Keep up the good work.

Thank you Kansassam for clearing that up. Those who really want to help just do it. They don’t question the identity of those helping out along side them.

It is very interesting not just to feed them but to set down and eat with them. Many of them hunger for this attachment to a normal life. I have talked to young families who started on the east coast and were going west to family and either ran out of money or their cars broke down. They are just you and me down on their luck.

Many have substance abuse problems but many don’t. I talked to one young man who was saving his money to go to Emporia to see his young nephew. He had a baby picture of him. After talking to him for a while I found that this nephew was now 5 and he hadn’t seen him since that picture was taken.

Thank you for being there to help them all of the time.

Wiseman.. Until we figure out what gaps need to be filled in the Task Force plan, we are not going to get a building or a distribution center. We have been distributing to the guys down at Messiah’s Branch Homeless Mission at S Broadway and Indianapolis. Pastor Dan is one of the best sources for true caring help here in Wichita. I would say that right now they could use the food items more than us. Please consider donating food items to them, and you can eliminate me as the middle man. They need the same items, but can also use hamburger, buns, eggs and such because they feed on Tuesday’s and Fridays.

WSClark,
Thanks for your support. Although we are Christ based, we do not require our givers or receivers to be Christian. We offer Christ’s love without forcing a religion on anyone. If you ever want to volunteer to hoe in the garden or pick beans this summer.. just give us a call!!

Chas. I have a constant reminder of just how good life is and how many blessings I have received from the Lord. Working for the homeless puts everything in perspective.

Reggie, Amway, JR, Max, Taz,
Rather than stick your tongues out at each other, why don’t you compete in some more meaningful way; how about spending some of the time you waste posturing and go volunteer at The Lord’s Diner or donate money to Interfaith Inn or some other organization that’s actually making a difference!
And maybe then you’ll also realize that you and yours are only one random and unforeseen disaster away from being homeless yourselves.

Amazing how the detractors disappeared!! I guess they cant handle a direct confrontation…

Thank you Kansassam, the next time I am at the store, I will try do this more regular and buy extra for them.

“‘I want it all… I want it all… I want it all… and I want it NOW!!’ kansassam
Posted February 17, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

“I’m not the one with my hand out waiting for you to do something for me.

“When’s the last time you directly helped the ‘homeless’ kansassam?”

Ohhhh boy, I don’t even have to go down the thread to identify this as an open mouth, insert foot moment.

Max, this is where people get in trouble: “Oh, look at the whining liberal who talks but doesn’t act” knee jerk response.

If you stop and pay attention, you would have realized that helping the homeless is kansassam’s life’s work.

Ksgrm: “Chas Max’s question wasn’t part of the inquisition. It was simply a question.”

No it wasn’t. Immediately prefacing the question:

““I’m not the one with my hand out waiting for you to do something for me.”

The problem is when one reads what someone else says and then applies a template to it, whether it be as a “wealth redistributing liberal” or as a “heartless conservative”, rather than looking at each poster as an individual with individual viewpoints. Max made a mistake, and it was no innocent question, it was rhetorical.

And to be fair to Max, I don’t think he would have asked it if he was familiar with Kansassam. However, my issue is this, too many people assume they know the viewpoints of those they are talking to based on the lib verses con labels they assign to what they first read from the poster. Such habits not only dumb down the discourse here, they result in people talking to constructs from their own minds rather than engaging in any real dialogue.

ksgrm Posted February 17, 2008 at 11:48 am

What a statement about Christian republicans - what is your criteria for this? The most compassionate people I know are republicans. They don’t shout their virtues in the streets but behind the scenes fund several programs such as The Lords Diner, His Helping Hands, contribute liberally to the program to feed hungry children on the weekends.

You see the difference between dems and reps here is that repubs do it and dems talk about it. That has been my experience at least. I do know however that this is merely my observation.

who is the hypocrite?

I’m a registered democrat. I’ve voluteered at the Lord’s Diner and Rainbows for extended periods. I’m pro-life and I choose serving the disabled and elderly as my life’s work. I guess I don’t fit into your sterotype, do I?
Now you can say that “in your experience” you observed otherwise.

Thanks for putting it in perspective, Sam. I see way too many of these posts claiming moral superiority is “owned” by one political party or another.

There is no doubt that the rise of the right wing and Republicanism has much to do with the rise in violence- not only against the homeless but crime and mass killings in general. The Republicans are very violent people. They love war and blood. And when they set to mood for the nation things like this, Virgina Tech and Northern Illinois U are certain to follow.

This thread should make us all feel thankful and maybe humble. It may prompt more of us to share our bounty and blessings. It should make us stop to realize we’re all just people. The late Kurt Vonnegut said it well:

“We are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is” –K. Vonnegut

Finally some good news for the “help the poor” kindred spirits here.

It has been decided that our nation is not spending enough on the Unearned Income Tax Credit (re: redistribution of wealth, Robin Hood program).

It seems 44 billion is not enough for the give away program.

Efforts are underway by the Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Charles Rangel to “re-structure” the progam which would double (steal twice as much) the amount being provided to poor single young and healthy beer drinking men and women.

These poor, poor single people are “unfairly” cheated by the tax system (oxymoron?) which provides more FREE MONEY to the married poor people.

Coupled with the child tax credit, the current program provides over 50 billion dollars of HARD WORKING TAXPAYING AMERICANS money to these poor people.

So, to encourage them to stay in poverty, and NOT marry, we need to provide them MORE.

So I guess you all can just say THANK-YOU to people including and like me, who are contributing thousands into the tax system, in order to ensure I tithe to the government, before the church.

And you greedy animals still want more.

Let me be the first to say “You are welcome”
for sharing of my abundance with the sick, lame, and lazy, in addition to the few who really do need help.

You’re welcome!

Just a small side note to post amongst the vast array of ideas on dealing with “our children” and getting them back to nature.

I was outside this afternoon, for a quick shot of vitamin D and winter anti-depression sunshine and guess what I saw?

Our pair of blue birds have returned!!!!!

Spring cannot be far behind.

WTG Bluebirds!!!

Oops. Wrong thread. (sorry)

Well Chas, it certainly isn’t Republicans in three piece suits that go out and beat up the homeless.

Anyone that beats up the homeless is a thug. You are arguing about whether are not there are apples in applesauce Chas - give it up.

“Well Chas, it certainly isn’t Republicans in three piece suits that go out and beat up the homeless.”

Of course not, they are far too wimpy to actually do anything themselves.

They HIRE someone to do it for them.

Reggie, old man, I never said it was Republicns in 3 piece suits… YOU brought up the street thugs, when the article clearly doesnt SAY such a thing… Even the description of the kid that was in on the death of the homeless man, was not described anywhere in the article as a “street thug”…

So, now you try to spin it back on to me about Republicans at fault??? But, sorry, Reggie…. I DIDNT SAY THAT!!

Go back and read again!! And do try to stay on the subject…

Reggie says >>>>

“Anyone that beats up the homeless is a thug.”

Right…. except for when they arent… except for when they are just middle class or upper middle class kids out for thrills…

Max, I suggest strongly that you might want to provide some sort of link for your assumption on the violence statement… From all I have read, homelessness is on the increase… and is spreading out to areas that have not seen homelessness in previous years… AND, the vionence IS on the increase… Just like the article upthread says…

So…. Links please, Maxie???

Really Chas, you are arguing with me on the definition of a thug?

Get a life man - you’re losing it.

I can call anyone who beats up on a homeless person, a rich person, someone who wears yellow - a thug.

Don’t tell me how to use words Chas, you have a difficult enough time choosing your own, without making yourself look doltish.

TOP SECRET: For Republican EYES ONLY.
(Don’t tell Kev)

I just returned from our clandestine meeting. Here’s the plan. The republicans are secretly using the CIA, FBI, and NSA to inflitrate college campuses across America. There, we are using subliminal messages which only effect (or affect I’m never sure) those students who are predestinated to mental illness. Students with pimples are an easy target, they are never secure in their person. Anyway, these secret messages broadcast on internet sites the college students utilize (supposedly when they are doing homework, yeah right). It is also secretly hidden in the young peoples music. Rap is the best music for our purposes. The message tells them that republicans want them to go buy guns, and to shoot up a bunch of fellow college students because that is GOOD for the republican party, and gun lovers.

We also are sending messages, hidden in company CEO’s email, to the children of republicans that in order to be a real man, they need to beat up as many homeless people as possible. But under no circumstances, should they reveal they are the children of republican VP’s, P’s, CEO, COO’s, and alal the other satan driven management types.

For the category of general crime, we have enlisted the masses of young republicans. They have under secret orders from the White House, been directed to commit great numbers of “general” crime events.

Now all of this is TOP SECRET. Do NOT under any circumstances reveal this to the poster KEV on the small Kansas newspaper WEBLOG website.

The later is most important to our success in underminding the youth of America and causing great negatives to the republican party, who is secretly promoting more crime and villains in America.

That is all.

>>>American Way
Posted February 17, 2008 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

So I guess you all can just say THANK-YOU to people including and like me, who are contributing thousands into the tax system, in order to ensure I tithe to the government, before the church.

And you greedy animals still want more.

Let me be the first to say “You are welcome”
for sharing of my abundance with the sick, lame, and lazy, in addition to the few who really do need help.

You’re welcome!<<<

Your money providing for the poor would bring great joy to the Lord if given willingly. It would also lessen the need for government intervention and return caring for the poor to the church where it belongs. Unfortunately most lose their blessings by choosing self over others. If only all Christians truly believed in the very words of Christ, the government would have no need to “steal” our money.

Matthew 25:

34″Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37″Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40″The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’

41″Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’