Mitt Romney faced reality today in deciding to bow out of the presidential race. As a person trained in doing risk analysis, he surely calculated that his likelihood of winning the nomination was too remote to justify him continuing to spend down his kids’ inheritance. But he portrayed his withdrawal as doing what was good for the Republican Party and, somehow, the war on terrorism.
“If I fight on in my campaign all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Sen. Clinton or Obama would win,†Romney said today at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C. “And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror.â€
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Good riddance Mittens. Goodbye small government GOP.
Takes you awhile to say goodbye, doesn’t it Sol? Small government GOP? When was that?
Would love to know just what the ‘terms of surrender’ might include.
Article 1. The U.S. agrees never to meddle in the internal affairs of Iraq.
Article 2. Iraq agrees to allow the U.S. Military safe withdrawl.
Article 3. Iraq is soverign in its observance of Shariah law.
Article 4. The U.S. will be held liable for all property damage it has caused to the Nation of Iraq.
Article 5. The U.S will continue to pay a monthly stipend to Iraq, at no lesser rate than during the war.
Sol, I dont beilive Mittens supported “small government” anymore than McCain has. In fact Mitt just stated that military spending should be increased to 4% of the GNP.
But … I thought he would come out of Tuesday only 100 delegates behind McCain!
McCain-Huckabee. Just wait and see.
Goodbye, Mittens, we hardly knew ye…..
Thank God for something.
Linda, Goldwater comes to mind.
Gosh, paulie sure has been silent the last two days.
Well, if you think about it, who would you rather have a beer with, or invite to a BBQ? ’nuff said.
McCain-Huckabee vs Obama-Clinton
Hmmmmm
Who will the talk radio extremists support now? they hate EVERYONE!
Going out on a limb here, I predict McCain wins Ks. caucus.
Obama-Clinton = California,####%, Mississippi, Alabama,Lousiiana, New York, Massachusstetts, Florida, Tennessee, Kansas etc.
How odd…it won’t print Tex##
It won’t be Obama-Clinton. Maybe Obama-Napolitano. Or Clinton-Richardson.
Mcain must be ahead in ks because I see the huckster is coming to Wichita for a little visit.
Gee, the religious wingnut in chief is visiting the religious wingnut captial of ks?
I wonder if the little ayatollah will be there to give his “blessing”?
hehehehehehehehhehheehhehehehehee….
Hate is all they need!
Now don’t go using the Beatles tune go through your head when this new word is used. They won’t like it!
Gotta to agree with Linda. When has the GOP ever supported small government?
Politics makes strange bedfellow.
We shall see.
Ben, STOP reading my mind!
I also thought about obama-napalitano. She could deliver Arizona in mccain’s face. Mccaskill is another possibility, although she doesnt have as much name recognition as janet does.
And then last night, I heard someone say that Jim Webb might be a good running mate for obama, IF he wins. Webb would shore up his national defense credetials, and most liberals love him too.
I still think Clinton-Obama is a winning ticket, but I think the hubris will prevent obama from accepting.
Tom,
Goldwater? Ron Paul?
Sol, Goldwater was just one man and never rose above being a Senator. And even he especially late in his life found himself siding with democrats over Fellow Republicans because of their tendency to try to legislate peoples private lives. In fact I beilive its a Goldwater quote “the government should be your sheriff not your preacher”
I dont know if mccain will win in ks. Maybe. But…
The repub primary is going to be made up of the hard line conservative repubs. The moderates supposedly crossed over to the dems on Tuesday night, according to the obama supporters. They cant cross back now to vote in the repub events.
And we all know the hard liners are in charge of the KRP now anyway. And we know Kansas repubs have a love affair with the evangelical wingnuts.
So… maybe the huckster will win. Or maybe ks will go along with mccain so as not to piss off the national party.
In any event, who really cares?
Sol, 2 people in the last 60 years or so isnt a good record
I bet if we could dig up Goldwater and he could run right now, HE’D WIN!
“where have you gone Joe Dimaggio, a nation turns it’s lonely eyes to you. Woo woo woo.”
I think we’re longing for Goldwater right now.
Romney dropped out so his supporters would flock to McCain to unite the gop and have a better chance at beating Ron Paul. The polls are a media popularity contest amoungest the corporate rich, they don’t mean shit.
Ron Paul, all the way.
No delegates have been officially awarded to any canidate yet. Do you think Ron Paul the Republican that raised more money from ciztens and the military dosen’t have more support than Huckaboo, and McInsane, Mr. Bomb Bomb Iran, Mr. Lets stay in Iraq 100 years. Ron Paul has more support. The media ran by multi-national conglomorates, on the Republican side namely New Corp. which owns Fox, who is owned by Rupert Murdoch has exert his influence in American Politics too long, and he’s an Austrailian. Your insane if you think our current system of government is looking out for the people, their protecting their pockets, and they will do everything within in their power to smear Paul, and silence his support.
ciztens = citizens
ksfg – a couple reasons not to pick McCaskill:
Two Senators not all that good.
She is becoming VERY effective in the Senate – let her keep up the good work there.
“Ron Paul has more support.”
OH? Then why hasn’t he swept the primaries and caucuses?
They have polling done at the end of the primaries and cacauses, key word, POLLING. Polling is not the end result, no Delegates have been officially been awarded to any canidate yet.
Uh, White Elephant, you might want to check that statement. I claim no particular expertise in this, but under the rules of the parties, it seems to me that there are delegates awarded as the result of the primaries and caucuses. This is the reason that the Romney campaign was suspended, not a drop out, so that he could keep some part of his delegates at least, going into the convention.
Doesn’t answer my question. How can you claim that Ron Paul has more support when he doesn’t get the votes of the people voting?
When you get the answer, Ben, please share the same. I’m interested, too.
Romney is a very good man whose campaign never caught on as it should have.
Everyone was so concerned about his past positions (or that was the angle of attack). Ironic now we have an apparent nominee who’s current positions are concerning to some.
Me too! And if all the money raised is coming in from huge numbers of people, why doesn’t that translate to votes? Did someone forget to tell ALL those people they need to get him nominated as the first step toward the presidency?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/108793/page/1 wherein Howard Fineman gives his opinion as to why, as outlander said, Romney’s campaign never caught on. Something about trying to be something he isn’t.
This’ll make Saturday’s Kansas Republic Party caucuses interesting.
If I were betting, I’d go with a Huckabee win. The Kansas Republic Party has done all it can to cleanse their party of anyone who isn’t born twice. And the anti-imigration faction isn’t likely to embrace McCain’s inclination to deal with the issue rationally.
What’ll be really interesting is to see the total turnout for the Republic Party caucus compared to Tuesday’s Democratic event. This is Kansas, after all, right? Way more Republic Party advocates than Democrats, right? Instead of a mid-week, middle of a winter storm, often miles and miles away from home, the Republics will have big buildings on a weekend and will flow to the caucuses to tell the world who they’re for, right?
Yeah, that’s the way to bet. Against me. ;-)
I am listening to McCain’s victory (?) speech….. I am struck by how many times that he has used terms indicating that he is loyal to his party first and America second.
Do we really need a man like this a president of the United States of America?
This man, like Bush, thinks that he can be president of just half the country.
What a lousy SOB.
Christ…………………………
God help us all if McCain becomes president.
MonkeyHawk,
I predict IF they do turn out in numbers equal or greater to those who turned out last Tuesday evening, it won’t be because they are enthusiastic about their excellent candidates as all of us were.
It won’t even be because they realize how badly our country needs someone who is capable of dealing with the many challenges bushco created.
It surely won’t be as hopeful, happy and exited a group as we saw last Tuesday evening. Just to know we’re getting rid of bushco excites me!
Maybe they will turn out so they can numbers equal or greater to those of last Tuesday.
Maybe they will turn out so they can *HAVE* numbers equal or greater to those of last Tuesday.
“Romney is a very good man whose campaign never caught on as it should have.”
WRONG. Actually what happened is that the voters DID catch on as they should have. And then they rejected him.
MH – Kobach claims that the Republiacns will have more people than the Democrats did. We shall see …
;)
Saturday forecast – sunny and 29 degrees at 9 AM. What was the weather like Tuesday evening?
It has become a “matter of honor” for Kobach to have more Republicans at the state caucus sites than turned out for the Democratic caucus across the state, it seems, Ben. If I was a betting person, I’d have a small wager on the over/under number for the number of phone calls being made today and tomorrow, likely taking the over.
Edwards for AG. Then let him investigate the Bushies. Including interrogating them!
IMO, Romney’s campaign never caught on because too many people were waiting for the South Carolina to vote for Thompson, and Florida to vote for Guiliani, and when their campaigns withered and died, it was just too late. They were confused, befuddled, and it showed.
Ben – Why not an Obama-Richardson ticket? It seems to me if his main problem is attracting Hispanic voters, Richardson would be the man. I am sure it would not be an Obama-Clinton ticket because I don’t see her taking VP. I could see Obama taking it before she would. She’s too strong a woman and too powerful to take VP.
Maybe buses and other transportation? Free drinks? Free drugs for the Limbaugh followers?
CF2K – I posted an article about that on open thread. Apparently the director of the CIA “cast doubt on the legality of waterboarding on Thursday” as well. I’ll repost the link here.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080207/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/mukasey_torture
Christ, McCain just finished his speech and I have had to puke…………………
This man fully intends to be the second coming of George W Bush.
God damn………………….. should he become president, you can kiss the United States of America goodbye.
McCain HATES everyone that is not a conservative….
Just like Bush. Make your reservations for Gitmo now, Democrats.
WSC – Don’t worry. There is no way in hell he will get in. There just isn’t. We have too much momentum, whether it’s Hillary or Barack that win the nomination, to lose to anyone on the GOP side, especially McCain.
But I share your fear a little, because I sure didn’t think King George would win either.
Since McCain has made his acceptance speech, IF the Kansas Republicans support anyone other than McCain at their upcoming caucus are they showing Party disloyalty? Would it be akin to “eating their own” like they’ve been accusing Democrats of doing? (giggle)
“ksfarmgrrl” –
When Barry Goldwater died he was held in contempt by current Republic Party partisans. He was “too liberal.” Go figure.
Goldwater refused to kowtow to the evangelicals who want a King James Version of the Constitution of the United States. Goldwater expected the federal government to pay its bills on time and not charge future generations for today’s expenditures. Barry even came around to realizing that America has no reason or purpose in becoming the police force of the world.
The Republic Party hated Goldwater at the time of his death. He made too much sense.
So consider McCain’s problem: He is, literally, the heir to Barry Goldwater’s Senate seat. But the Republic Party has become so radicalized they consider McCain (and Goldwater) “too liberal!”
The only issue McCain can get any traction in his promise to turn Iraq into the Second Hundred-Years War. How do you think that’s gonna work out?
You’ve asked me, “ksfarmgrrl,” whether I’d support Senator Clinton’s candidacy should she win it. I don’t hang on your every post and don’t presume you seek out all of mine. So I will repeat: Yes, if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I’m with her. But (as I’ve said way too many times, to my reckoning) I think Barack is the stronger candidate; the one who has the potential for a landslide (or close to it), as opposed to another 51-49% election.
Even with a 51-49% victory, the Ship of State will turn toward a better future. But an Obama landslide looks better to me. Even for GLBT issues (if you look at his record instead of a single campaign appearance).
We’re both Democrats, “ksfarmgrrl.” We’re both progressives. We’re used to intramural fights during primary season and I have abolutely no contempt for your position. And I will be on the side of the Democratic Party’s nominee regardless of whom the Republic Party puts up as a candidate.
Yes, I think you’ve taken this primary election process a bit too personally, but I recognize your perspective. I sincerely don’t think one campaign event with a crazy person negates the validity of a progressive candidate. Your mileage may vary.
I’m on your side about the issues that are important to you, “ksfarmgrrl.” I really am.
We have an election to win. And we should and we can. And it would be a lot more effective to lobby someone in the Oval Office than someone who’s on the outside.
Since Kansas Democrats have cast their votes, we’re not on the sidelines rooting for this candidate or the other. Either way, we win. Provided we accept our intramural differences and realize our power as people to navigate the Ship of States to a better horizon than George WMD Bush’s.
The way to make me REALLY despise this Republican nomination? As Huckabee to be his running mate.
Not that I’m worried, I think we WILL have a historic Democratic Presidency. But just in case we DID happen to lose, I’d at least like someone I can somewhat be ok with. Huckabee isn’t it.
He isn’t going to want to pull hard Right at this point. Now that he has his party’s nomination, the neocons are in the bag. To win, he MUST appear to have more across the board likeability, and Huck isn’t the way to do that.
I agree completely about Huckabee Political Mama. You said it so much better than I ever could have. But I will add that he would set this country back a hundred years or more with his evangelistic views.
First of all, not making excuses but I would appreciate your prayers.
My special needs granddaughter will be 5 this Saturday.
Today, she goes into surgery to get her right lung drained. She has serious pneumonia.
Next, did you hear that Michael Moore thinks it is “immoral” to vote for Hillary?
Please, my left leaning friends, do not behave as if you have no radicals, on your side!
Monkey, I don’t merely want someone who can win this thing. I want someone who will DO A GREAT JOB. It will matter nothing if Obama gets in the and turns his presidency into a Carter moment in time. And it will probably set us back farther than we could have ever hoped in terms of progressive movement. Just look at the backlash after Carter.
I believe that Hillary has the ABILITY to steer this ship away from the rocks. I think with Obama behind her, this could be THE defining moment of our country in the past 100 years.
And just think, when she is done, Obama can run for president and then he’d be set to continue the tradition.
I’m afraid if Obama goes first, his inexperience will hurt us.
Trust me, Monkey, I’m tempted to go with Obama just for the mere fact of his electability. As a dem, I can taste it. But more important is the future of our movement and this nation.
It has begun already, I see.
I took shots for mentioning any negatives against McCain, while Romney was sill in the hunt.
Now, everyone is unloading on McCain.
By the way, Hillary put $5 million of her own money into her race. Money she did not have, by the way, prior to being First Lady. Where did that money come from?
Why isn’t anyone calling Hillary “rich”?
Its off to the hospital.
Later folks
Econ, best to you and your granddaughter.
OUCH! Hang in their Paul; I suspect it’s going to be a long night.
Hey Econ101,
She’ll remain in our prayers until we hear back from you.
As far as the dems go, what a choice! Obama or Hillary! Exactly how bankrupt does a political party have to be to end up with choices like the dems face now? Amazing!
McCain may not be my choice for the republican candidate but stand him beside Hillary or BHO and he starts to look pretty good!
He’s strong on National Defense, highly decorated veteran.
He’s always been pro-life, always against late term abortions.
He’s promised strict constructionist judicial appointments, no nitwit liberal activists.
And best of all, he’s not Hillary!
“Why not an Obama-Richardson ticket?”
That would be a good one too. I guess I was looking at Napolitano’s support for Obama already.
Econ, My best thoughts are with your granddaughter, you and your family. It is so difficult to have a loved one who is ill. I will be anxious to hear how she is as she begins the healing process.
Only you Paul, would put a post about your granddaughter in the same post as a political jab.
Yes, I will think about your family. I will hope that Hillary is elected so your family doesn’t find itself mired in healthcare expenses for decades.
I hope you will run into people there who aren’t as fortunate to have health coverage, who had to miss work, who are losing their homes just to stay alive. But you already know this. Now LIVE it with them and still say you love your job.
Yes Hank, by all means, lets do 100 year war with Mccain. Just think, you can lose your son, your grandchildren, all in the same war you support.
Viva la WAR.
Prediction: The Republican caucuses will not be nearly as well attended as the recent Democratic Party ones. There is a hotly contested race in the Democratic primary, but not so in the Republican. For better or worse, McCain is the presumptive winner, which will reduce interest/turnout.
Second prediction: the libs on this blog will crow, dance, and preen about a lower turnout…claiming superiority or something when the reality is that a lack of a tight race just doesn’t motivate people.
Or P-Mom,
We could bring all the troops home from Iraq within 60 days of a democratic presidential inauguration and still manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
Of course, we might do something about that 60 year ‘war’ we have going on in Korea. Probably ought to bring the Marines home from Macedonia that Clinton left over there as a ‘trip wire’.
Amazing! Trying to talk about national security with a liberal!
McCain is looking better and better!
Taz–
We had a two to one turnout when you had four people in the race and we had three.
We had a two to one turnout when you had three people in the race and we had two.
Face reality–we’re going to squash your guy like the bug he is . . .
McCain-Huckabee, I keep reading and hearing that…
The 100 year occupier and the guy who wants to manipulate the Constitution to fit his personal interpretation of the Bible.
Vote that way and you deserve the facsism that will follow, especially with the bloodcurtling possibilty of an Attorney General Guiliani.
Doesn’t anyone notice the NeoCons all bowing down before Hillary… will real Conservatives pull the blinders down before it’s too late?
I doubt it, they’ve been conditioned to believe that the big government, Globalist NeoCons are representative of Conservatism, when in fact they are nothing more than Government expanding Liberals wrapped in the Totalitarian flag of “National Security”.
I truly hope that the Romney people step back now and take a solid damned look, their guy has weathered all sorts of mudslinging from McCain and vice versa, but Romney’s platform that McCain is going to be bad news for the economy and is not a Conservative still stands. Dr.Ron Paul is the only candidate that understands the economy and can put it back on solid ground. As a side note, he’s also the Real Conservative on the stage, since when was the platform of following the Constitution fringe and not Conservative?
How can ANYbody call McCain Liberal, given his position on the Iraq War???
Taz – GOP state chair Kobach has already promised that they will draw more than the Dems did. Blame him for making his prediction if we remind him of it.
Chas., because to some, he is not “conservative” enough on some social issues, but more to the point, he “works with the enemy (read Democrats)” to attempt to pass bills he believes are for the good of the country. Thus, he’s a liberal.
Capn…your tunnel vision is showing again. Have I ever expressed supporting any candidate? Have I ever shown a preference? Where the hell do you get off saying “squash your guy…”?
I know you cannot comprehend it…but not everyone who doesn’t follow your extremism is a right wing fanatic. But…you are so wrapped up in your extremism you have completely lost sight of reality.
Ben….in that case, I think the state chair was way off base for making such a promise. He is going to look very silly when the lack of a contest reduces turnout.
Look at off year elections…the nationwide turnout is much, much lower than in presidential election years. The lack of a close contest sadly results in extreme apathy.
Monkey Hawk, I said yesterday, I’m tired of your condescending lectures to me. You want to lecture me like an idiot child, you want to argue with me, and then you demonstrate DAILY that you dont even read my posts.
Real slow for you now.
I. Am. Not. A. Democrat.
Jesus WEPT! Why dont you tell us about Obama and the issues instead of lecturing me or whining about Hillary?
Or maybe you’d like to share your personal conversion story, AGAIN, about the rally and all?
“GOP state chair Kobach has already promised that they will draw more than the Dems did. Blame him for making his prediction if we remind him of it.”
Well god damn. The repukes in this state start OUT being registered 3 to one in this state.
If the dems and indies and crossovers DO outnumber on a crappy weather night DO outnumber the republicans at their caucuses, I’d say Kansas really MIGHT turn purple this year.
And Linda, good for you. I heard one of the pundits say that any vote NOW for Huckabee is a protest vote against mac.
I agree that the huckster has a GOOD chance of winning, given the wingnuts who run the KsGOP.
And most of the legislature, and local governments, and…
KFG, I will be there Saturday, but then the trick will be one getting in, so I am not wearing anything that says “Ron Paul”. Two will be seeming reasonable, no shouting and basically being quiet till needed. Three when the time is right, fighting like hell for Paul! BTW, Mc Cain has already been deemed the candidate for Ks. by the head of the Ks, GOP so it is a formality but the rest of the Republicans get to play grown up and play useful.
Econ101, may God hear and fulfill our prays for your Granddaughter, my voice is one he will be receiving on her behalf.
The only obstacle to McCain even having a chance in hell, is that he’ll need to convince the majority of his party and some independents that war in Iraq is a ‘Good Thing’. And, that bomb, bomb Iran would be a cake walk.
If he can do that he deserves to be president!
Hey writerdog,
We ought to have a mini-BLOG meet up at the Broadview hotel Saturday morning! I’m pretty sure they have a reasonable breakfast buffet.
A little mini-pre-caucus, with hash browns and gravy!
Hope for the party yet?
by Mark Silva
After the smoke cleared at the Conservative Political Action Conference – the public withdrawal of Mitt Romney from the Republican presidential race, and the attempt of John McCain to make friends with the party’s staunchest conservatives – a conservative crowd-pleaser stepped forward .
Ron Paul, the Republican representative from Tejas.
Paul was playing on the frustrations in this hall, with many voicing worries about McCain, the all-but annointed nominee.
Now the party has an apparent candidate who is a friend of Sen. Russ Feingold – on campaign finance reform – Paul said. And now the party has an apparent candidate who is a friend of Ted Kennedy – on immigration – Paul said.
He raised cheers in the hall – perhaps the first genuine cheers of the day.
“If you think we can lead this country back to conservative principles… you have another thing coming, because it’s not going to happen,’’ Paul said.
“The answer is found in fiscal conservatism – live within our means,’’ he said to cheers in the hall.
“As long as a government can stir up fear, sometimes real and sometimes not real, the people are expected to do one thing, sacrifice their liberty,’’ he said to cheers.
Now here is the best part. Mind you this is CPAC. I added the emphasis.
And then there is the war in Iraq, with Paul the only one of several Republican candidates for president this year who took a stance against the war.
.
“McCain says we should stay there for 100 years if necessary – I say there is no need,’’ Paul said to more cheers in the hall.
“We campaigned in 2000 for a humble foreign policy, no policing of the world – and now we are doing the very same thing,’’ Paul said.
CPAC cheering Ron Paul? CPAC cheering ending the war? There may be hope for the party yet. All it took was a liberal on the GOP ticket.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/ron_paul_mccain_friends_with_f.html
More from CPAC
I was told by some local Paul supporters that Romney’s staff turned their table in the exhibit hall over for Ron Paul’s use. According to one of of these supporters (his name tag read Kevin O), the guys at the Romney booth, who only had ten minutes advance notice that Mitt Romney was going to drop, are now planning to vote for Ron Paul.
The GOP is desperate to get rid of McCain. If y’all drop the media hyped – kook – label and actually look at the man’s record, you might realize he is the most conservative candidate. Are you conservatives first or republicans first?
http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/07/blogging-pac-ron-paul-bob-barr-others-respond-to-romney-dropping-out/
Dog, if you are still a republican, Dude, I don’t even know what to think.
You always seemed to be a reasonable guy.
BTW, just heard hillary raised 7.5 mil since super Tues. 7.2 for Obama. She’s still in it, and still ekeing out the lead.
Hey P-Mom,
Do you think that Hillary will use it all on her campaign or will she pay herself back for the 5 million dollars her campaign owes her?
By now you’ve all heard about Romney stepping down and McCain getting heartily booed at CPAC. However, as the media shunning continues for Dr.Paul, you won’t hear what happened when the Dr. talks up true conservatism, while exposing McCains Liberal leanings, when it comes to aisle crossing allies of McCain, the Dr. names names and the Conservatives make so much noise, you’d think it was a WWE show and not the GOP Conservative Political Action Conference.
intro:www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l8 AIuJJRZo
part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oaD9o...
part 2:www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWlUc8i p5hc
part 3:www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGaZsAe MKFo
After you watch the videos listed here, go look at what McCain faced in front of the same crowd, especially when he opened his mouth about immigration.
I’ve heard Hillary called a Nutcracker before and McCain, McCain is a nut. He has so much crap that the Dems are going to expose, that and a obvious move by NeoCons to push Hillary, the media is just a step behind them, they’ll talk him up now, but we all know that they are leaning Hillary in the media. His fun run is coming to an end and the skeletons will start resurecting.
The last guy the liberals want to tangle with is Dr.Paul, the only skeleton the media could drag up was a manufactured drama over some newsletters. He could easily expose Hillary for the socialist that she is and when it comes to experience, well, if Obama is having trouble overcoming that issue with Hillary, then he would face an immense obstacle when it comes to the Dr.
Warmachine
Spot the f on brother.
Hey, your links don’t work. PLEASE repost.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oaD9oM4xQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWlUc8ip5hc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGaZsAeMKFo
These work…I hope!
Hank Price
Posted February 7, 2008 at 6:59 pm | Permalink
Hey writerdog,
We ought to have a mini-BLOG meet up at the Broadview hotel Saturday morning! I’m pretty sure they have a reasonable breakfast buffet.
A little mini-pre-caucus, with hash browns and gravy!
GREAT, how is 8 A.M. for you?
LOL well mom we all have our moments!
I love this.
That’s why I don’t trust it.
Romney didn’t have to get out. He could easily continue to run on his own money.
No way in the world is Romney angling for VP. Not big enough for his ego.
So there are a few possibilites.
He knows his party cannot win and is cutting his.
He is angling for 2016.
He is hoping his withdrawl strengthens Huckabee to carry to the chaos of a brokered convention where he then uses his captured delegates and considerable money to but the nomination.
He doesn’t feel the need to run because he knows more about Obama than the rest of us.
Like maybe that Obama is a plant.
When things happen for seemingly no good reason, they have to happen for a hidden reason.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/02/romney-facing-reality-leaving-race/#comment-289376
Warmachine… let me see if I get this…
NeoCons are Liberals… Nobody is consevative but Ron Paul….
And War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Bliss…. Right???
Ok… you can go back to your padded cell now!! Thanks!! Oh, you might lay off the Jim Beam before the Caucus on Saturday!! LOL
JR — One thing you leave out… It is POSSIBLE that the newly installed Ledership of the LDS Church told Romney to “get out” of the race… Being an avid churchman, he would have obeyed…. Scary thought, but possible!!
One other possibility…. He made a VERY powerful statement the other day…. He said something to the effect that it is time to get the politicians OUT of Washington, and take back the control of our Country….
Ummmm…. Such a statement, at its very roots, is TOTALYY Anti-American…. We are built on a system of a Judicial/Legislative/Executive form of government… We have a Constitution that spells out WHY we have politicians in Washington….
Romney’s call for an Over throw of that Best Governmental System in the WORLD, is a gross ERROR….
Even more so than the Huckster’s call for a King James Version of the Constitution….
And it COULD be that somebody in the RNC called him to task for such a comment!!
Now, JR, for whom would Obama be a plant?? For the Anti-gay Christian Evangelicals, or maybe for the radical Muslim movements?? Or maybe for the Bildeberger One World Government people?? He cant be a plant for Skull and Bones… He didnt go to Yale!! LOL
Hey Dog!
8 it is! I’ll try and get the boy up that early and I’ll email ksgrm to see if she wants to come! Hell, we’ll all vote for Dr Paul!
Taz writes, Capn…your tunnel vision is showing again. Have I ever expressed supporting any candidate? Have I ever shown a preference?
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Taz–just because you’re too cowardly to stand for a candidate doesn’t mean you aren’t still a right-wing douchebag.
I’m just saying . . . .
Jon Stewart ran some clips of Romney tonight.
Good lord! I didn’t know that guy was just a total plick.
Hey, Romney, take your “a vote for a Democrat means the terrorists have won” and blow it out yer Mormon Tabernacle Choir.
Jerk.
Chas, neocons are liberal, its called corporate welfare. There idea is if indivduals can suck milk from the cows utter so can already rich corporations. Only the corporations provide jobs, while costing taxpayers money, its quite a pickle.
Its pretty much like this, the Republicans are for welfare for the rich, while the Democrats are for welfare for the poor. So when the repubs are in office, the poor feel the crunch, when the Dems are in office the rich feel the crunch. I wouldn’t call it liberalism either, I would call it bi-partisan socialsm.
Either way, spending increases, and taxes increase, no matter which party is in control of congress or office.
and who is it that foots the bill the most, the middle class muscle
I don’t have a problem with socialsim, but its not the governments job to provide social programs, its the job of people to provide that. If people donated to private charaties instead of being taxed and letting the government decide how to use our money, our money would be used how we wanted it to be used. It would probably be a lot more efficeint too, with a lot less corruption.
Or it might be nice, if we were taxed a flat rate, and could decide what programs we wanted our tax dollars to be spent on.
A flat tax should be realitivly low, because it does seem unfair that a flat tax would eat up more of a poor persons pay check, than the grain of salt it would be to a rich person.
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that was interesting.
i guess it’s better than having oreilly send fox security to my house.
The Phantom
Posted February 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink
Would love to know just what the ‘terms of surrender’ might include.
Article 1. The U.S. agrees never to meddle in the internal affairs of Iraq.
Article 2. Iraq agrees to allow the U.S. Military safe withdrawl.
Article 3. Iraq is soverign in its observance of Shariah law.
Article 4. The U.S. will be held liable for all property damage it has caused to the Nation of Iraq.
Article 5. The U.S will continue to pay a monthly stipend to Iraq, at no lesser rate than during the war.
crap, there goes the free oil bush promised us.
he can’t get anything right can he.
Econ101
Posted February 7, 2008 at 4:20 pm | Permalink
First of all, not making excuses but I would appreciate your prayers.
My special needs granddaughter will be 5 this Saturday.
i’ve read your comments about the poor and how they don’t deserve health care because they are lazy and worthless.
maybe as you sit in the hospital you will give some thought to a homeless 5 year old who needs food or medical help to have somewhat of a “normal” life.
afterall, it’s not their fault their parents are “lazy and worthless”.
they’re just little kids.
Broadview hotel Saturday morning! I’m pretty sure they have a reasonable breakfast buffet
go somewhere else.
the broadview is way over priced.
and they treat their employees like pos slaves.
hopefully they replace upper management if they ever sell that dump.
I’ve eaten some killer pizza before… Damned near died from the stuff!! LOL
“Warmachine… let me see if I get this…
NeoCons are Liberals… Nobody is consevative but Ron Paul….
And War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Bliss…. Right???
Ok… you can go back to your padded cell now!! Thanks!! Oh, you might lay off the Jim Beam before the Caucus on Saturday!! LOL”
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I see letters, typing… Help me out, where’s the substance in your rebuttal?
NeoCons aren’t liberals in that they are big government, big spenders with the only difference being, NeoCons are big spenders when it comes to the Nazi format of “National Securtiy”… While what NeoCons call liberals are big government, big spenders, but in the Marxist form of controlling the Social Services?
You borrow from foriegn nations at the peril of the future economic security of the Nation, you circumvent the Constitution and Civil Liberties to accomplish your goals and you bloat and expand the size of government? Thats the NeoCons, so tell me what’s conservative about them?
Huckabee is fairly conservative, until he starts talking about the concepts of Religious facsism, amending the Constitution to his interpretation of the Bible. Romney had his good points, but in the end he has done the same as McCain and imitated a political weather vein.
So, how about,if you would, instead of engaging in the tactic of ridicule, try to engage in some critical thinking.
You have just re-defined Conservatives as Liberals!! I guess you dont see that!!
Hey, Jim Beam is OK, but it doesnt define words at willk ya know!!
What I am trying to tell you, is that you are talking in circles!!
I gotta give Limbaugh one thing…
He is consistent…
He trashed John Kerry 4 years ago…
He trashed John McCain THIS year…
Now, either he has issues with candidates named John, OR,
He just cant stand Vietnam War Veteran Heroes!!
:-)
Warmachine, HOW can I engage in serious discussion, if you insist on talking nonsense, and utilize totaly circular thinking???
Chas, you’ve succeeded in answering questions with ridicule. I did not redefine “Conservatives”, I simply pointed out that NeoCons are not “Conservative” in the traditional sense. They are very liberal in their spending, very liberal in the pursuit of military conquest and very, very Liberal in the expansion of Government.
Historically speaking Conservatives, real conservatives, have been elected to stop that kind of nonsense.
Once again, you tell me exactly what’s Conservative about NeoCons?
Pmom, Writerdog is one of the good ones. He’s not an insane, neocon, hater, christian taliban, warmongering, liberty killing Republican. He is staying in the Republican Party, despite the fact that he is a rarity there and his party left him, a long time ago. He wants to move his party to sanity and he is loyal and “dogged” (hehehe) in doing it.
He’s the kind of Republican we can respect. A liberty loving, choice respecting, patriotic, compassionate, fiscal sanity Republican.
Damn, he DOES sound like a non-repub!
Run Dog Run! Why DONT you run for office?
I went to “the google” to see what I could find about NeoCon. Here are some of the “definitions / explanations” I found:
A “neocon” is more inclined than other conservatives toward vigorous government in the service of the goals of traditional morality and pro-business policies. Tends to favor a very strong foreign policy of America as well.
America is a nation uniquely equipped as the sole remaining superpower to order the world and spread our values.
Most neocons share unwavering support for Israel, which they see as crucial to US military sufficiency in a volatile region. They also see Israel as a key outpost of democracy in a region ruled by despots.
In their view, the world can only achieve peace through strong US leadership backed with credible force, not weak treaties to be disrespected by tyrants.
The shared interest of Neocons and Religious Conservatives in using the government to enforce morality: “Since the Republican party now has a substantial base among the religious, this gives neocons a certain influence and even power.
Distinguishes between Neoconservatives and the call of traditional conservatives for smaller government. “Neocons do not feel … alarm or anxiety about the growth of the state in the past century, seeing it as natural, indeed inevitable.
The neoconservative desire to spread democracy abroad has been likened to the Trotskyist theory of permanent revolution.
Neoconservative are attempting to build an American empire, seen as successor to the British empire.
Regards America as founded on universal principles and assigns to the United States the role of supervising the remaking of the world. Its adherents have the intense dogmatic commitment of true believers and are highly prone to moralistic rhetoric. They demand, among other things, “moral clarity” in dealing with regimes that stand in the way of America’s universal purpose. They see themselves as champions of “virtue.”
Everything I found about NeoCons sounded like really scary S**T to me!
A well worded definition Linda.
Let me give it simpler.
A neocon Republican (currently the party core) can do anything for gold with guns and always be certain God ordains it so.
Very accurate Linda. McCain is the embodiment of the next phase of neo-conservatism. He will bring in the socially liberal piece of the pie. The republican party has strayed very far from conservatism. A McCain win will be the stake in the heart that kills the party.
“socially liberal”
WTF?
When he stops supporting a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, and when he becomes pro choice, let me know….
He’s just as socially CONSERVATIVE as any other republican wingnut.
Thanks, Linda. None of the things described strikes me as conservative. The idea of Social Conservatism, might as well read Social Authoritarianism.
For NeoCons it’s all about empire and power, there’s nothing conservative in that either.
Actually
“Neo Con” started as a politically correct way to say “Republican Jew” — and it is often used, today, for that same, original purpose.
It also means a strong defense of Israel.
Pat Buchanan and Robert Novak are NOT “neo-cons” for instance.
I am, I think, much of the time.
And
Thanks for your thoughts and prayers for my little Kaitlyn.
It was on again off again on again.
Surgery didnt start until 11:00 this morning. She came out around 2:00 PM.
Enpyema cyst, outside of lung, was drained, one lung was completely collapsed, they tried to drain it, as well. She is full of tubes, to drain the chest cavity and the right lung. Also, they left a shunt or catheter in, to administer meds directly.
She is a fighter.
She didnt even need O-2 untill this morning, and then only when she was trying to sleep, just prior to surgery.
We put a sock on her hand to keep her from pulling Oxygen canula out of her nose. Kaitlyn bit the sock off. I scolded her, so she left the tube alone. Then when the nurse came in and asked where the sock went, Kaitlyn threw the sock at me!
Anyway, thanks folks.
I know it might seem odd, mixing family and politics, but guess what we all talked about, while waiting on our little miracle baby?
Besides, this kid was released to “Hospice Care” 5 years ago, and has been proving doctors wrong all her life!
Again, thanks for your thoughts and prayers.
I need a nap!
Econ, you have earned the right to one. Sweet dreams.
Econ,
My son-in-law went through much the same a few months ago. He’s an adult, and I know how hard it was on him and on us, the family waiting, so I can somewhat understand what it’s like for your family and for little Kaitlyn. (What a pretty name!) How unfair that someone so young has to battle so much. Luckily, fighting is what little ones do best.