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School is IN today in Wichita.

Keep dreaming.

Ima let you all take care of me and my family.

See http:www.wen2k.com/tell.php?Id=1771 This is the future of our troops if McCain wins. Vote Huckabee. Herbert West III, P.S. The Wichita Eagle is censoring all these posts in support of Sebelius and Obama. This site is a taste of the Democtratic win. It tastes horrible. Vote Huckabee. Herbert West III, http://www.west.herb@yahoo.com http://www.wen2k.com Republican.

Ummm Herb?? Doesnt look like a censored post to me??

Chas,

I had problems refreshing yesterday. I had to keep hitting the ‘refresh’ button over and over to get the new posts up. They showed on the index page, but not the topic page.

When Hitlery becomes “Her Highness”

Amazingly, when I read that remark I was reminded of a couple months ago touring the top floor of Worlds of Wonder museum. They had several quotes near a display. I hid the author and asked my wife if she could guess who said them. She said it sounded like something Bush would say.
Oh, the author? Adolf Hitler.

WoW isn’t in the category of museums as Denver Museum of Science, but it is still a great place to while away a day. I highly recommend it.

Herb, I can’t see your posts…must’ve been censored!

Cal Thomas wrote in todays ‘Opinions’;
“One reason this socialistic mind-set resonates favorably with many is because of the shift in the past half-century from promoting hard work, self-sufficiency, marriage, personal responsibility and accountability and living within one’s means, to a mentality that I am entitled to the fruits of other people’s labor. That used to be called robbery before government started doing it more than a century ago through the income tax.”
Truer words could not be spoken. And that change, I am confident and greatly fear, will bring a demise to the greatness of this country.

Does anyone else distrust the Eagles requirement to post comments contingent on ‘registering’ and giving them as much information as they are requiring? I certainly understand the requirement to register for them to control undesirable content, and don’t disagree if that is confined to threatening or vulgar content. But they want address, age, work state, print subscription status, etc. Why?
I have been an Eagle subscriber for approx. 39 years and even have them simply deduct from by bank account the fees. I am seriously considering canceling my print subscription as there are now plenty of places to get the news and I don’t like the degree of intrusion they are placing to simply respond to Opinion comments now and will everywhere else too.

LOL Ghot

JR, I know what you mean,
Thats why I didn’t take my wallet with me to the Caucus. I have enough hands in my pockets as it is..

Well to be fair.

The thing IS run by volunteers. And I guess if ya don’t volunteer you can’t judge too harshly the efforts of those who did.

I hear it went better at WSU. More organized.

The Kansas legislature could have given us a primary for 200 thousand dollars. That’s a pittance even in the province of state spending. It would amount to less than a few cents per citizen.

But like you say sol, maybe they really didn’t want a primary for just the reasons you gave.

heh. Did anyone think obama was NOT going to win ks? I called it, Dan Lykins called it, etc. No big deal. The “market” already factored in a win in ks.

And I love how the Obama folks are spinning that because Hillary didnt CRUSH him last night, it is some huge victory?

I think they call it managing expectations. No she didnt crush him. And no, he didnt have a big Surge to victory. The obama camp has been saying that if they could hold Hillary’s delegate lead to 100 or less, it would be a victory. Depending on whose delegate numbers you use, they did that. Hillary has about 100 more delegates right now than obama. I do think he will win the next few primaries, but I think overall, it is a mistake to count her out. The latino vote is not insignificant, and she does well in more populated areas, except where African Americans dominate the voting block.

The fact that Hillary whooped obama’s ass in Mass, the HOME of the Kennedy dynasty, and in California, the Home of Maria Shriver, tells me the Hillary supporters are really the ones who are “insurgents” within the party.

The old line party dogs, the “yellow dog democrats” seem to be supporting obama. With mixed results.

It’s all a lot of spin. And I do find it interesting that exit polls show people saying “it’s not about race, it’s not about gender”.

And then the voting tends to be right along gender and racial lines. I think people dont even know, or wont admit, that gender and race are playing a role in their voting.

The democratic voters want to believe they are unprejudiced, but when they vote, it affects them, whether they want to admit it or not.

White men went with obama. White women went for Clinton. African Americans of both genders went with obama. Latinos went with Clinton. Voters under 40 went with obama, except in California, where Hillary captured the under thirty five vote AND the older vote.

And did I mention that the Kennedy and Oprah endorsements did them no good in CA and MA? heheheheh. In their own BACKFREKINYARDS!

I did a lot of on-line reading before I came here this morning. It seems that the reality is the Dem nomination is too close to call. It also seems SOME folks think the obama momentum has peaked and now is retreating a bit.

If I were giving advise to Hillary?

Cast off Bill. Cast off the advisors. Dont listen to anyone but Chelsea and yo mama. I think I am starting to see why folks say “if you REALLY knew the REAL Hillary, you’d like her”.

I think she’s been trying really hard to be lots of things to lots of people and to be smart about her campaign.

But I really believe if she were to be the real and authentic Hillary, who is her OWN woman, not just Bill’s wife or the Senator from Hell, or the Feminist or whatever….

I think if she is the child advocate, the family advocate, the hard line Commander in Chief (which MORE than 50% think she would be a better CIC than obama) and the economic and health care policy wonk she is….

I think she’d walk away with the nomination. And more importantly, the election.

Just my two cents. But anyone who things there was a clear winner on the Dem side or that there is clear momentum… is a MAN supporting obama.

Oh, and btw, in obama’s rally last night? He talked about bringing together white, black, latino, young, old, rural, urban…

And NEVER once mentioned gay folks. Second time he’s done that. And he was called on it after the last time, and he refused to add gay and/or transgendered in his remarks.

Just like he refuses to have his picture taken with the mayor of San Francisco. I know no one here cares about his real homophobia and bigotry.

But I do. And I’m not going away…

Oh, and btw, I dont think the Obama camp should gloat too much about winning a squeaker in Missouri. He BARELY eeked out a win with the great effort of Claire McCaskill, one of the most popular democrats in the state. She didnt do nearly as good a job in delivering HER state for obama as governor “leadership” did in ks.

And I noticed Jane Napalitano did NOT deliver AZ for obama.

So much for the girl trio. Just goes to show what I’ve been saying all along. Sebelius has COMPLETE control of the party in this state. Ks democrats are bots for her.

In MO and AZ? Apparantly the party isnt so bot like.

Hee hee hee. And on a lighter note…

Isnt it interesting that captain and monkey hawk are white men supporting obama. And Pmom and I are older (sorry mom) white women supporting Hillary?

And if you asked any of us, we’d say “oh no, race, gender and class mean nothing!”

Hehehehehehhehehe….

Yes. The homophobe thing is going to start troubling Obama.

It is a huge hole in his facade that is starting to surface.

“Did the Democrats choose the when and where after the Republican-dominated legislature decided there would be a caucus instead of a primary?”

Yes Linda, that is exactly right!

And as for the old hand thing…

Maybe old hand isnt the right word. But a former Democratic Party candidate for elected office is damn sure a PARTY INSIDER!

Maybe her lack of ability to lead is why she lost? hehehhehehehe. Will Rogers is so right.

Although, a chaotic event is easier to rat bugger the outcome than a well organized one. I think the obama supporters were willing to win at any cost. And isnt he the one who said he’s a lousy manager? Looks like maybe he draws those people too!

Heh, and Linda, to your point about the democrats being unorganized…

I got TWO calls before the caucus from candidates for statewide office who wanted me to take their literature to the caucus out here.

I was puzzled. Where did they get my name? Why were they asking ME? Anyone who knows me out here KNOWS I’m not active in the party anymore. I havent chaired the Trego County Democrats in over two years. I’m not even a precinct person anymmore.

Heheheh. Turns out than in some publications, the KDP STILL has me listed as county chair.

I think that is funny as hell…. You bet. NO organized party. And you can see how much western Kansas matters to them. They dont even know who the local party LEADERS are!

Actually VT, it was after 1972 and the McGovern fiasco that resulted in Nixon winning. I’d have to go back and look it up, and I could be wrong, but they wanted to make sure the party insiders didnt let a damn insurgent like McGovern get the nomination again. Most of the super delegates are elected officials and/or party officials, i.e. “insiders” and “establishment”.

Which is why I think it’s funny that so many super delegates, like sebelius and the whole KDP hee haw gang, have declared for obama. Like Kerry and Deval Patrick and Kenney in Mass. The list could go on.

Like I said… HTF does obama claim the “fresh new face” when he is so CLEARLY the favorite of the hard line party old timers and insiders?

And as you noted, super delegates are not required to support anyone, and may “change their minds” at any point.

How conveeeeeeeenient.

Heh. The democratic yellow dogs want to make sure THEY can overule the people’s duly elected delegates just in case, “the people” dont do what the party leaders want.

And they are called the “democratic” party?

And it is no coincidence that Bill and Hill both worked for McGovern. I sure hope Hillary has a plan for dealing with the super delegate problem.

Actually, I think the way around the super delegate problem is for a Clinton/obama ticket.

She’s going to HAVE to offer him the VP slot if she wins the nomination. I dont think he will accept it though. He’s shown enough hubris and pissyness to pick up his marbles rather than go along with THAT plan.

If obama rejects the vp slot? Look for Hillary to pick Bill Richardson. That will solidify the hispanic vote, and I’m hard pressed to think white men democrats or any african american voters will support McCain. Absent the hubris and pissyness factors of course!

kfg, as a real outsider, it seems to me that picking Gov. Richardson for the v.p. slot makes a lot of sense, regardless of who the nominee for President is. The growing number of Latino voters (there are those other than Hispanics, IMO), makes it critical to have someone on the ticket (both parties, BTW, but don’t see it happening right now on the GOP side, although McCain being from Arizona might help a bit) for whom Latinos will vote. I know it is bad policy and perhaps bad politics to assume a certain ethnic group will vote as a solid bloc, but having taken a quick look at the California primary results on the Dem side, this group as a whole were important to Sen. Clinton. While she might have the “inside track” in California with the Latino vote, it would seem to me that Gov. Richardson might be very helpful in other states. Plus, he has other credentials and experience that could be helpful.

grrl, I called the Richardson VP tap last friday !!! I doubt she invites Obama.

I gotta say, I’m STILL puzzleing over the obama win in Connecticut, and the Clinton win in Mass. I’m going to say it must be on the ground organization competency or incompetency that won those states. I’m especially astounded that she won in Mass. WTF?

There is no way on God’s green Earth that Obama would accept a VP slot after the unfounded and unwarranted attacks on him by the Clinton machine.

No way.

I agree with Kfg that Clinton will have to invite Obama so as not to alienate the black vote, but I also think he will accept. The main argument against him is his inexperience, and he would gain valuable experience as VP, and hopefully would have a very successful bid for presidency in 8 years.

Well TDT, HE doesnt think he’s inexperienced. I think he exhibits more bush like hubris everyday.

Sol, I think she would be better off if he accepted, but if he declines I dont think it will hurt her a bit.

If the RR and the cons stay home and the African Americans stay home, it could be a low turnout election.

McCain WILL be the GOP nominee.

As we see with posters here, that will depress Republican turnout.

I think Senators Clinton and Obama will go all the way through a convention.

I’d like that. There hasn’t been a meaningful convention in my lifetime. They are the stuff only of history to me.

GOP turnout suppressed affords Senator Clinton to be less worried about and Obama ego issues.

Obama will take the VP slot.

GMC the Drew Carey Video isnt too bad… BUT, it is so blasted choppy, and loads SO slow, it loses a lot in translation!! I sent those folks an email… Maybe they will get it sped up so it doesnt stop to load every 10 seconds LOL Other than that, not too bad…

One thing it DIDNT do… It DIDNT say how much freakin interest all of those fancy toys cost those folks!! LOL

Chas, just a thought…do you have boradband? maybe if you let it pause while it fully buffers?

Ghot.. I have DSL high speed

For what it’s worth, it was reported around this time last year that a presidential primary in Kansas would cost $2 million, not $200,000.

I know you expect a fat girl like me to worry about food and water, but really

You look just fine to me, KFG.

Then again, you look like max and hank from here.
*ducks*

I didn’t really mean it, hon.

Thought some might like this for Ash Wednesday:

Christians
by Maya Angelou

When I say… “I am a Christian” I’m not shouting “I’m clean livin’”

I’m whispering “I was lost, Now I’m found and forgiven.”

When I say… “I am a Christian” I don’t speak of this with pride.

I’m confessing that I stumble and need Christ to be my guide.

When I say… “I am a Christian” I’m not trying to be strong.

I’m professing that I’m weak and need His strength to carry on.

When I say… “I am a Christian” I’m not bragging of success.

I’m admitting I have failed and need God to clean my mess.

When I say… “I am a Christian” I’m not claiming to be perfect,

My flaws are far too visible but, God believes I am worth it.

When I say… “I am a Christian” I still feel the sting of pain..

I have my share of heartaches, so I call upon His name.

When I say… “I am a Christian” I’m not holier than thou,

I’m just a simple sinner Who received God’s good grace, somehow!

ghoti, over ice works for me. Especially a well aged single malt….

I can’t even drink anymore, Vaughn. I get hung over before I catch a buzz. The only way it’s worth my while is if I power drink. So maybe about twice a year do I indulge. I can’t even make it through a can of beer without a splitting headache. Too many years of the nightly 6 to 10 pitchers, followed by abstinence when I became a responsible married person.

ghoti, I fully understand what you say; it resembles me, too. I don’t do the power drinking thing any more (haven’t for decades), but one “wee drop” on occasions does wonders for my mental well being.

Chas., those are two worth mentioning, for sure.

Mark, may I suggest that if we all took Cal’s advice literally and “lived within our means” that the national economy would take a big hit (in a negative sense, of course). Not that that would necessarily be a bad thing, longer term; but I very much believe that much of the consumer demand that I keep hearing fuels the economy is based upon credit (ab)use. Might result in dividend cuts, at least in the short term.

Yep, Chas., same here; use an eyedropper to measure it out so it doesn’t deplete too quickly. :-)

Ummm — I havent resorted to an eye dropper… Yet….

Change of pace; link to a Washington Times opinion piece. Both interesting and remarkable (tip of the hat to former SecDef Rumsfeld).

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/02/the_strange_gop_nominating_vic.html

New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner was questioned on the whereabouts of the memory cards that hold electronic records of the votes.

“She kept asking him and ultimately he had to admit he didn’t know where they were, and this is days after the election,” said Harris.

One of the observers followed the ballots back to the vault where they were being stored overnight and noticed slits in the ballot boxes that had not been counted, a complete violation of federal election laws.

“I then came in the next day and asked the assistant Secretary of State David Scanlan – what about that slit in the end of the box?” said Harris, after which Scanlan attempted to dismiss the concern by claiming the slits weren’t big enough to allow tampering (an OJ tries on the glove moment, according to Harris).

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/012908_recount_fiasco.htm

Watch the video. A must see !!!

Heh. I prefer GOOD bourbon myself, but I have empathy for you ghoti. THIS ol’ gray mare aint what she used to be either. I was at a “power lunch” in Houston with some KPGM (that’s how long ago it was) eating SALADS for god’s sake, and one of the guys noted that “a few years ago we’d all have been eating steaks and drinking scotch. Now? I just save it up for two good drunks a year”. heheheh. We all laughed. ruefully.

Chas, I rarely get to Wichita anymore since I dont need my fancy Wichita lawyer anymore. I only see doodah when I’m buzzin’ through on my way to Austin.

KFG! PUT THE ROLL OF QUARTERS DOWN AND BACK AWAY FROM THE JAW!

Hee hee hee. Did you ever go to Joker’s Bar in WaKeeney? That is where the, uh, “unfortunate incident” took place.

AFTER we were divorced.

hee hee hee heeeeeeeeeee….

Of course, like Ringo “no no no no, I dont drink it no more…”

Kinda like outlaw marijuana because the mexicans all do it and are taking our jobs in the ‘30? Or outlaw opium because all the chinese do it and they’re taking our jobs in the 1880?

I always want to fight when I do tequila, which would be fine if I didn’t always lose when fighting on tequila.

An update on Sen. McCain’s delegate count, now that most of California has reported. Apparently, the writer is puzzled as to how Sen. McCain has done so well statewide, winning not only in the “moderate to liberal” areas but also in places like Orange County. Hmm, maybe there are some “traditional” conservatives living there? Or not; it may just be electability on their minds (my take). Please note that while the writer is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, the linked piece contains his and only his opinion.

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/02/california_mccains_secret_dele.html

Hee hee hee. I had my wedding dance at the VFW too.

And you see how well THAT turned out :)

Well chas, I think any “get together” we plan should be back channel through email. There are so many nut cases on the blog these days…

…I wouldnt want them to be able to gun down all the libs in Kansas at once!

(Showing my ignorance) Aren’t most of the wedding dances in that part of the state at the VFW or the American Legion? I vaguely remember attending several of these in Western Kansas and don’t recall the site being other than the VFW Hall or the Legion Hall or whatever.

Maybe at a Community Building if they dont have VFW or Legion…

” I vaguely remember attending several of these in Western Kansas”

hee hee hee. When I got married, my Dad put a GALLON of cheap whiskey on every table.

I think most of our wedding dance memories are “vague”

Unless we were injured doing the Flying Dutchman! Now THAT’s a rude awakening!

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I guess we could get together at a bar and sing “Glory Days”.

And, to not omit this, a gallon of cheap whiskey on every table? Yep, sounds like the wedding dances I’ve attended.

yep, or as we like to call it “full CONTACT Flying Dutchman”.

Mosh pits got NOTHING on western Kansas wedding dances…

fleettwood
Posted February 6, 2008 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
“Exxon Mobil pays as much in taxes ($27 billion) as the entire bottom 50% of individual taxpayers, which is 65,000,000 people. The tax rate for the bottom 50% is only 3% of adjusted gross income; the tax rate for Exxon was 41%.”

*****

Wow, Fleettwood.

I’m so so sad for poor Exxon.

I tell you what. I’ll take their profits and pay their taxes, and in return I’ll give them my salary and they can pay my taxes.

How about that?

It may be a violation of the code, Capn; however, if it is, so be it. Although, I’ve been known to just splash a bit of still water into the “wee drop” from time to time…

Not a Seagrams Seven fan, but I will admit to its apparent smoothness.

In the interest of fair and balanced posting, link to memo from Mark Penn. “A New Day” the title, it presents a “best face” view of Super Tuesday from Sen. Clinton’s campaign, presented here to balance the Politico link earlier posted. Again, for informational purposes.

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/02/penn_a_new_day.html

Capn posts;
Wow, Fleettwood.
“I’m so so sad for poor Exxon.
I tell you what. I’ll take their profits and pay their taxes, and in return I’ll give them my salary and they can pay my taxes.
How about that?”

That the big problem Capn…there are too many with exactly your attitude now that would do just what you suggest but without taking the risks, doing the work and producing something of great value like Exxon does.
Ya know it don’t come easy…, as the song goes, but that’s the way you want it, and if you can’t have it you criticize and envy and try and take down.

You’re changing the argument, Mark.

The issue is taxation.

Exxon pays a lot because they make a lot. Period.

I’m perfectly willing to pay more if I make more. Aren’t you?

For some reason, the CONs say, “no, you shouldn’t have to pay so much.”

In fact, Exxon should pay more than they do. The oil and gas in US waters belongs to the American people. It belongs to you and me.

BushCo waived the royalties on OUR national resources so Exxon is profitting by pumping our oil for free . . .

BTW, this is a canard: “The tax rate for the bottom 50% is only 3% of adjusted gross income; the tax rate for Exxon was 41%.”

The federal income tax rate may only be 3 percent for the bottom 50 percent of households, but as I have pointed out until I’m blue in the face (and I really am blue in the face), that other taxes eat up a far larger percentage of poor people’s income than the well-off.

*****

Paul Krugman posts the numbers–

Here’s what the numbers say about percentage gains in after-tax income from 2003 to 2005:

Bottom quintile: 2%
Next quintile: 2.4%
Middle quintile: 3.9%
Fourth quintile: 3.7%
Top quintile: 16%
Top 10%: 20.9%
Top 5%: 27.7%
Top 1%: 43.5%

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/bush-boom-bah/

The rich are paying a lot of taxes because they’re making a lot of money, proportionally much more now than they did in the past.

If you were in the bottom 4/5ths of American income earners, your earnings barely kept pace with inflation, despite excellent productivity and growth numbers.

However if you make more than 300 grand (top one percent), your income grew by FORTY PERCENT.

The taxes are nothing compared to that kind of growth in income . . .

Plus, Capn, I just noticed something else about that. Income taxes are not paid on Adjusted Gross Income, the tax is paid on “taxable income”. Thus, with the lowest federal marginal bracket at 10% on taxable income, it seems to me that the lowest 50% are not realizing all that much taxable income. It would be interesting to know what Exxon’s taxable income was as well.

Looking at Krugman’s figures, another question pops into my mind. I’m aware that the tax brackets are adjusted annually (as are the standard deduction and the deduction for personal exemptions) for inflation based upon the prior year’s inflation rate (simplistic statement, it’s a bit more complicated than that). Thus, given that, did the increase in “after tax income” given by Krugman exceed the inflation rate for the tax year being examined for those in the lower two quintiles?

Dr. Reich’s position on this is interesting (BTW, most of my clients are not corporate). One wonders, though, what the effect of total elimination of income tax at the corporate level would do to the price to be paid for the goods and services produced/provided by the corporations. Would there be a reduction therein, to reflect the removal of any income tax thereon, or would the prices stay the same? Higher dividends and all that, you know.

One thought I’ve had in my years is a revamping of the taxation of dividends and capital gains received. In the example below, I’m concentrating on individuals. I can justify, in my mind, not taxing dividends at all, as dividends are paid from Earnings and Profits which have been subject to income taxation at the corporate level. I can also justify the taxation of dividends at the individual recipient level iff the marginal rate the corporation paid on the income that went into E&P was lower than the highest marginal rate of the individual recipient. In that case, the income tax rate to be applied would be the delta between the two.

I also think that capital gains resulting from the sale of corporate stock purchased on the open market from a stockholder and not directly from the corporation issuing the same itself (or an IPO) should be taxed as ordinary income. My reasoning is simplistic here, too; the secondary (or later) purchase does not directly benefit the corporation by infusion of capital. Rather, the stock is purchased with the expectation of gain from future successful operations, receipt of dividends, or both. In that sense, I see nothing that would differentiate that expectation of gain from other investments of money or labor which do not receive any preferential treatment in the hands of individual recipients. The initial investor, whose $$ constituted a capital contribution to the issuer, would be entitled to the “special treatment” of capital gains on the investment as a reward to taking the risk initially. Very simplistic, I know, but these are some of my thoughts.

Companies that are multinational also pay many foreign taxes as well. Every country gets a piece of the Oil producer pie and charge a tax on it.

Another question about the numbers Fleettwood posted about Exxon’s taxes, etc. The source of the information. If the same came from the annual report filed with SEC, I would wonder if the “burden” represented the % actually paid to IRS alone; IRS + any number of foreign countries; or reflected the appropriate accounting treatment for reporting allowance for income taxes, which, inter alia, takes into account the differential between book and tax depreciation. The amount shown on the Income Statement for Income Taxes is often different from the amount of income taxes actually paid in any operating year, given the different treatment of various items for tax vs. book purposes.

One smart investing idea, which I’ve written about before, is tobuy shares in those companies reaping the big profits. Why not get a little return on the money you spend on gas? Besides, it’s a wonderful feeling every time I buy up, looking at all the other people fueling their SUV’s and swearing under their breath. They are paying ME. Of course, since I’m driving one of the hybrids with the highest MPG, I don’t get to see the folks at the gas station as much these days. But that adds to my wallet too.

I’d suggest buying shares of oil and gas producers with large reserves in safe parts of the world. Those places include the United States, Canada, Australia and the North Sea. Personally, I like Anadarko Petroleum (APC). Why? Because most of their operations are in the good ole USA with proven reserves, which become more valuable the longer the green guys don’t let em drill it. And when they do, it cost more for recovery, and that ensures a price which will keep my earnings coming! Additionally, APC has a DRIP program which allows tightwads like me to cut out the middlemen. I like all the profit I can get! XOM also has a DRIP program, but I like the financial services with APC better.

Additionally the results of the Louisiana Caucus may still change in favor of Ron Paul, where an ongoing legal challenge may result in most of that state’s delegates going towards Ron Paul after state GOP officials violated their own rules to improperly put delegates from other campaigns on the ballots.

http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2008/02/ron-paul-nation.html

Tax. Tax. Tax.

Democrats can’t get enough Tax!

CHARLESTON, W. Va. — Two Republican presidential campaigns are engaged in a dispute over the first delegates awarded today on the most important primary day in history.

Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee won a victory at the West Virginia Republican convention Tuesday, taking 18 delegates for the national convention.

Supporters of Tejas Congressman Ron Paul and Arizona Senator John McCain switched their support to Huckabee in the second round of voting.

The Paul campaign says the price of that support was three of Huckabee’s delegates.

Huckabee’s campaign denies there was any deal.

Huckabee spokeswoman Alice Stewart said there’s no truth to the story.

But John Tate, national political director of the Paul campaign, says a deal was done and the Paul campaign plans to hold Huckabee to it.

State Republican Chairman Doug McKinney says the convention was winner-take-all.

McKinney says the only way Huckabee could give away delegates is for them to resign.

They would then be available for Paul’s campaign to appoint as his delegates.

http://www.wtov9.com/news/15229556/detail.html

I have to admit, it is SO refreshing to hear that a Christian sticks to agreements made. What Would Jesuc Do?

Consider this, as just ONE PIECE of evidence amongst hundreds of thousands available: Winston Churchill, in the “Illustrated Sunday Herald”, London, February 8, 1920, page 5, identified those behind the Communists who had taken over Russia in 1917 as “the most formidable sect in the world” and explained that for the advancement of this anti-Christian revolution for World Revolution (i.e., World Tyranny, i.e., New World Order) that “Russia had to be laid low.”

Churchill further stated that Communist Front Man, — financed from New York and London, — Vladimir Lenin had gathered “the leading spirits of a formidable sect, the most formidable sect in the world, of which he was the high priest and chief.” Churchill continued: “From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, etc, . . . this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstruction of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.”

And this drive for the tyrannical “New World Order” has been steadily growing since 1920, and is still in full swing as exhibited by the war-mongering in the Mideast and the attempts to implement growing police state measures here at home under the guidance of Lenin-Look-Alike Michael Chertoff.

In Network America ewires in the past I have gone into the details of this monstrous, organized force, and its coming, utter defeat, in which we must play our part (probably through very tough times).

What Churchill does not say in that 1920 London newspaper article is that the front men along the drive for the New World Order, — like Lenin, Trotsky, Hitler, F.D. Roosevelt, Billy and Hillary Clinton, and W. Bush – are backed, financed and PUBLICIZED by the ORGANIZED Money Power of our age: the Banksters behind the Federal Reserve Board and the central bank of London, headquartered in that small walled-in place called “the City.” (Google it.)

It is THIS GROUP – once called the Communists, now called the Neo-Cons, — which is behind the coordinated censorship and smearing of the Ron Paul campaign in 2008 – as well as behind any votefraud that was committed against Ron Paul by the unconstitutional computer systems in place in 49 ½ states. (And it looks like we may have had some old fashioned vote fraud in the hand counted parts of New Hampshire, and that story is still unfolding.) Let’s continue.

WHEN DID THE FORMER COMMUNISTS BECOME “CONSERVATIVES?”

In 1972, after George McGovern was defeated in 48 states by Richard Nixon – in the largest landslide ever – this “formidable sect” which had been running the Central Bank of the US (the FED) since 1913, decided that middle America would never buy their revolution for world government through the liberal Democrats, — so they decided to take over the Republican Party – and, PRESTO, the Neo-Cons were born.

The idea was that middle America would accept the Communist Revolution for World Government if it were wrapped in the American Flag and sold through the “conservative” Republican Party.

Irving Kristol (father of Bill Kristol, editor of “The Weekly Standard”) and Norman Podoretz (recent advisor to Rudy Giuliani’s Presidential campaign) – both former Trotskyite Communists – announced that they were becoming “conservatives” after the 1972 election.

In the 1970s and 1980s, while Reagan gave nice speeches, the Neo-Cons intertwined themselves with the Republican Party at the national level, and with the US government at the national level. Of course, the “NeoCons” always had the backing of the Big TV Networks (which their faction ran) and the unlimited money of the Fed (which their faction controlled) and its chosen front men. (Front man Rupert Murdoch, the Australian born pornographer who now owns “conservative” FOX CABLE NEWS) provided $10 million dollars to Bill Kristol to start “The Weekly Standard.” And that was just one of their hundreds of projects, others of which were and are the North American Union, Gun Control for the USA eventually, the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, NAFTA, GATT, CAFTA, the 9-11 Terror Attacks, and the Next Terror Attack, if they can get away with it, the unconstitutional war in the Middle East, the “no fly” list controlled by traitor and Neo-Communist Michael Chertoff, etc. etc.)

RON PAUL FORCES, AND ALL FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS, MUST WAKE UP AND PROCLAIM THE TRUTH OPENLY – IT’S OUR ONLY CHANCE !!!

If the Ron Paul forces don’t realize the truth of above paragraphs, they will be forever running in circles – with the Neo-Cons running the Big Media, the RNC, the DNC, the White House, and the Congress EFFORTLESSLY pushing our efforts aside, and bringing all of our actions to naught. NOW —

Those who mentally shut down when someone yells “conspiracy theory” or “anti-semitic” — are not tough enough for the battle ahead, — and are, in effect, casualties, for now, in the fight for America, — done in by the Big Media brainwashing machine which they still do not see through, or are not mentally tough enough to stand up to.)

RON PAUL STATES THERE ARE ABOUT 25,000 PEOPLE TRYING TO REPLACE THE US CONSTITUTION WITH “World Government”

Until recently, at this link:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/260903ronpaul.html

there was a video taken at an event near Austin, Tejas on August 30, 2003 in which Congressman Paul states that there are 25,000 individuals using their influence to set up a world government. It turns out, the site propaganda matrix had slightly sensationalized Ron Paul’s comments by editing them, for no good reason, and in the process cut out a few of his very reasonable qualifications about the extent of his knowledge. So now you can watch the unedited version of his answer on youtube by searching for “Ron Paul Admits Conspiracy” on YouTube.com, or by going to this youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGk719-iD0U

A member of the audience, Eric Rainbolt, asked the speaker, Congressman Ron Paul, a question. I publicized this video in the past, and I have seen in several times, — and so have many of you. Here is most of the brief transcript:

Eric Rainbolt: “Congressman Paul, I have a question . . .”

Moderator: “Over here.” (pointing to Eric Rainbolt.)

Eric Rainbolt: “Great! If we can take a look at the big picture, could you tell us, the people in this room, any information that you may have of an international and deceptive conspiracy to overthrow the American Republic and its Constitution & Bill Of Rights in order to set up and usher in a totalitarian World Government likely espoused under the UN also . . .?”

Congressman Paul: “He asked if there was an international conspiracy to overthrow our government. The answer is. ‘Yes’, but probably not in exactly the terms you’re inferring, at least in my understanding . . . . I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of power, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government. And if you believe in One World Goverment, then you are talking about undermining National Sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could very well call a Dictatorship – and those plans are there . . . ”

End of excerpt from the transcript. The distinction Congressman Paul made that I left out above was that this is largely an open movement now, and that he cannot say that he has personal knowledge of, for instance, the top 25 people who meet to plan the next moves. See the video for yourself.

Also, on YouTube.com – search for “Ron Paul NeoCon Speech 2003″ – and you will find Congressman Paul’s more than excellent speech on the floor of the House of Representatives, in which he makes the link between the NeoCons and the Trotskyite Communists. The speech is in 11 parts on YouTube.

more at link http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=114300

Sol — That’s an awful lot of information to soak in all at once…

Here’s my dilemma >>>

Why is it that the NeoEvangelicals preach against the kind of One World Government you write about here…. But….

On the other hand, they preach FOR exactly a type of One World Government, when talk about how the world will be RULED after Jesus, or Messiah, returns, to rule the world with an iron fist — either believe in him, or die…

The two types of Dictatorial rule sound a whole lot similar to me…

On a lighter note, doesn’t Lurch realize that GW is the Goracle’s schtick?

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080206170159.aspx

And as a final note: The democratic majority in congress approved a 500 billion dollar increase to the national debt limit – to allow them to continue spending money they (we) don’t have at the national trough.

Thank you China and thank-you democratic majority
(the same majority which promised to only approve spending based upon revenue sourced budgets but did not deliver)

The Obstructionist Republican Senate, narrowly blocked by one vote, the expanded rebate program that would have helped the Disabled Vet, Elderly, and Unemployed.
Let’s see if we can remove one of the Obstructionist this year!

Dear Hank Price,

You seem to enjoy, (”On a lighter note“), the deaths, and other problems anthropogenic global warming is probably causing.

More anthropogenic global warming, and more climate change is in the “pipeline”.

Hank Price will get many more laughs in the future… as AGW causes more problems.

So, tell me Max… what IS the difference?? Both systems are dictatorships!! And Max, in God’s Kingdom, as in many totalitarian states, everybody will have the same income!! You think you can handle that?? LOL

Just means you are wrong Max… and I am RIGHT!! Look, IF Jesus returns, and sets up a One World Government, and declares that you either believe or you DIE… That is just as much a totalitarian dictatorship as what Sol posted about earlier…

Anybody who cant see that, is just blind, or stupid!!

Hank Price posted February 7, 2008 at 5:04 pm

“No really, if a competent scientist wanted to get on the AGW consensus bandwagon how does he do it? Is there a ballot to fill out some where? A list of multiple choice questions?

The answer is that “competent scientists” are unable to refute the AGW consensus.

Instead, the deniers use tactics like inaccurate op-eds, pseudo-science, and bogus petitions.

“… in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere…”

Hank Price, define, in scientific terms, what “catastrophic” means.

Explain why you believe that the bogus OISM petition,
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine

refutes all of the peer-reviewed science at ,
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm

Note the “References” at the end of each chapter.