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Did you notice the real estate advertisement for three downtown Wichita high-profile buildings that are FOR SALE? It was contained in the EAGLE’s business section this AM. One is the historic Union Station on Douglas.
Wonder what that is all about?
Parking space for the Arena? :)
Well this is the second day or relative freedom, without going into the graphic details my ties to Wal-Mart are severed. The world is now my Oyster, but at this point instead of a pearl I seem only to find the grain of sand within it at the moment. Its for the best I am sure.
Has anyone else suffered from this weird flu that’s been decimating Wichita this year? It starts out as extreme, debilitating fatigue – but no fever. Then you get a mild cough – but no fever. Then the cough gets worse – and fever hits. And THEN…….
One minute you feel better – the next you feel like the diseased issue of a very diseased Cro-Magnon woman.
Whatever it is – it s–ks. Does anyone know how long this crud is supposed to last? Some kind soul told me “two weeks” – and I said, “Oh, hay-ull no.” Ain’t no way I can last two weeks with this crap.
And the worst part is: Evidently this year’s flu shot is ineffective against this particular virus. Whatever it is – I feel like a s–t-salad stroganoff right about now. And it’s getting old. It’s getting REAL, REAL old.
When I get the flu (like once every 15 years) – it’s 24 hours of pukin’ – and then it’s gone. This virus ain’t like that – it hangs on longer than Hugh Hefner’s priapism.
Please – does anyone have any words of hope for this miserable sinner, er, sufferer? I’m about to pack it in…………..
Sorry Songbird, can’t say I’ve had the “Cro-Magnon Woman” experience nor the the flu, at least in recent memory.
Perhaps in a former lifetime? :)
It would seem Songbird that there are several strains going around now. Some more virulent than others, less than half of them covered by the last vaccine.
From you description it would appear you have one of the worst. Plenty of fluids, rest and hang in there!
Sorry.
Hey dog!
Any prospects?
Don’t worry too much about finding the pearl. If you got an oyster. . .a little hot sauce and a beer to wash it down with. . .
Hooray for you writerdog! Walmart sucks.
When I get the flu (like once every 15 years) – it’s 24 hours of pukin’
Not the flu; most “flues” are food poisoning.
Songbird
I’ve had it. Every time I think it’s gone it comes back. I had the flu-like stuff over 3 weeks ago. The head cold symptoms and sore throat keep coming back. Thought I was over it again 2 days ago. Blew a quart of bloody snot out of my sinuses this morning.
Here’s to you having better luck with it than I am.
Not yet Hank but just in case I am thinking of investing in a roofing hammer and a ladder. :>
This morning I am giving serious thought to perhaps it is time to go it on my own. I have often sighted that this town is lacking in some areas. And simply finding the correct area of endeavor could pay off, I know it does not involve cake decorating or Antiques as neither seem to be able to make it passed six months.
I know the CC of Augusta would just love to see some more Varity uptown, something that would both serve the community yet draw some traffic from the highway and the surrounding area. I myself want something that would have some staying power. But that means some uniqueness to it and would be more convenient than a run to Wichita. I would have to compete with Wichita, El Dorado is easy as I often describe it as “Plain as Vanilla”. But whom knows? This will takes some more thought, though my playing ability leave quite a bit to be desired, I wonder if a Music store/ Guitar store might make it. There are local Guitars teacher that would like to have a place they could work out of to give lessons. It would also be valuable to at least carry used band instruments. There is a unspoken demand for them here as both the middle school and High school have band programs.
LOL it somewhat makes me feel like the child with only fifty cents standing in front of the candy store.
Songbird I had it last week and had not been that sick in recent memory! It hit so suddenly and with such odd effects that I wondered if it might actually be a heart attack (it also played a part in my separation from WM)! For the first three days I could barely set in bed and like you describe had barely enough energy to get up to go to the bathroom. The days and nights melted into one and I have little memory of those days.
It became also most a relief when it just started feeling like a bad cold!
LOL yes JR, have you ever seen the documentary “the high cost of low prices”? I just recently watched it on youtube and I have to agree with most of it in hindsight.
Hey Dog!
There’s a lot of opportunity out there! Twenty years ago I started a software consulting service tailored toward chiropractors.
There was a pretty good company that was basically selling exclusively through trade magazines. I called them up and sold them on my services. Told them they needed me!
Sold software, consulting and in office instruction for two years. Wrote a monthly column for a magazine and built up a pretty good business.
Problem was, I had pretty much sold everyone interested in Sedgwick, CO and I was in western Kansas a lot over night. The company wanted me to take over Oklahoma and Texas. Newly married, not interested!
People still call me and ask me for help today! They no longer have my stuff but I’m easier to talk to than someone in tech support located in New Delhi!
It was a pretty good gig and I didn’t need a ladder!
dog –
As an El Doradan and guitarist, come on over. I wish I could tell you the market is ripe, but it would be a struggle. For one thing, you’re in direct competition with the Wichita stores (Ulick, MDP, etc.) as well as Guitar Center. You’re right, you’d have to be broad-based; entry level gear, band instruments, and probably karaoke stuff too. But there’s probably a market here.
Of course, now would be a tough time to start a new business, given all the economic uncertainty.
As a nurse, I’ve seen this horrible flu take over the city. Blame the overuse of antibiotics by the health care industry for the super bugs we now have to endure. I’ve even known of two elderly people who died as a result of getting this crap.
Wash your hands..wash your hands….wash your hands.
Wash your hands eveywhere you go, and also carry some of that hand sanitizer and use it frequently. The most effective way to keep from getting sick is to WASH YOUR HANDS of the germs you pick up everytime you touch something that someone else has already touched!!!
5 Things You Never Knew Your Cell Phone Could Do
For all the folks with cell phones. (This should be printed and kept in your car, purse, and wallet. Good information to have with you.)
There are a few things that can be done in times of grave emergencies.
Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver or an emergency tool for survival. Check out the things that you can do with it:
FIRST
Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you find Yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile network and there is an Emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to Establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly, this number 112
can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
SECOND
Have you locked your keys in the car?
Does your car have remote keyless entry? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys In the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on
their cell phone from your cell phone. Hold your cell phone about a foot >From your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock
button, holding it near the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. Saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no
object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other ‘remote’ for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk).
Editor’s Note: It works fine! We tried it out and it unlocked Our car over a cell phone!’
THIRD
Hidden Battery Power
Imagine your cell battery is very low. To activate, press the keys *3370#. Your cell phone will restart with this reserve and the instrument
will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your cell phone next time.
FOURTH
How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone’s serial number, key in the following Digits on your phone: *#06#. A 15-digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe.
When your phone get stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them this code. They will then be able to block your handset
so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be totally useless. You probably won’t get your phone back, but at least you know
that whoever stole it can’t use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there would be no point in people stealing mobile phones.
And Finally….
FIFTH
Free Directory Service for Cells
Cell phone companies are charging us $1.00 to $1.75 or more for 411 information calls when they don’t have to. Most of us do not carry a telephone directory in our vehicle, which makes this situation even more of a problem. When you need to use the 411 information
option, simply dial: (800)FREE411, or (800) 373-3411 without incurring any charge at all. Program this into your cell phone now.
I thought it was too good to be true . . .
Let’s not get too excited over the cool stuff on the cell phone. Much of that is false.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/cellphones.asp
Damn..I just copied it!
Sorry folks should have checked myself — thanks G
Good tips, Ken.
I heard ol’ Dalton Grimsley (or whatever his name is) on the radio the other day talking about ICE, which stands for In Case (of) Emergency. Set up your emergency contact number (spouse, parent, kid, whomever) under ICE. If you aren’t physically able to use your phone, the number is there for emergency service people to contact. Multiple contacts can be labeled as ICE1, ICE2, etc.
All true GMC, but I think the secret would be “warmth” as a fledgling player I made a trip to the Mecca for guitarist “C and C music” on Hillside. I was in heaven until the clerk finished with the last customer at the register. Once he discovered I was not a band member with a top name band. The temperature suddenly fell fifty degrees. Sadly to a lesser degree that is the experience at most of the shop I have been to in Wichita.
For the most part the only one I have found I was truly welcome at is “Kathy’s” on Lincoln past G. Washington but Senseny music the first time was a treat, I got to play a 68 gold top Les Paul! OMG , when I died I hope that St. Pete hands me one as I walk through Pearly gates! Talk about HEAVEN!
Since I have a Ovation Balladeer, I had find Uhlok music a good place and they took the time to answer questions and just let me talk. LOL I am starting to sound like a food critic!
As you are aware, particularly new guitarist need to be nurtured and even the more experienced love to talk with others. Selling a guitar is one of the easiest things in the world, you simply get it into their hands, teach them the easiest one note song like “ole to joy” or even “Love me tender”. Show them they can play and you have a sale! Getting teachers involved would only add to current and future sales, whether they are good or bad teachers it would be the same. I would rather hook up with a good teacher that could work out of the shop. It would draw people from some ways and the beginners would have the true benefits. I have had three teachers in my life and they varied in degrees. The first was good as she taught the ridged basics and brought you along at your own pace. The second was a band member for twenty some odd years, the problem I guess it though just because you can play a guitar for a living. Does not mean you can teach other to play. The third whom I would like to get back with, he was a little too laid back. Though he was helpful he tended to play his own guitar ( Or after a bit one of mine) while I was playing and it made it harder to hear myself. Especially since he would more pick a different rhythm that I was. But he was a good in-between. But any song I wanted to play he could teach and write out with ease.
Can you tell this has been one of those back of the mind thought for sometime?
Writerdog, you go man. When the economy is down is the BEST time to start a business. It is scary as hell being self employed, but IMHO, well worth the risk, the fear, the uncertainty and the looks from family and friends.
Contact your local Small Business Development Center. Iknow there is one at WSU, maybe one at your local community college.
I dont know if you are near an Enterprise Facicilitation group, but the SBDC should be able to tell you.
And… if possible…. dont borrow any money. Bootstrap if you can. It may be slow going, but build up your own reserves.
And write a business plan. Your local SBDC can help, and there’s lots of business plan help for free over the internet. If you cant make it work on paper, you cant make it work in real life either.
“Blow up your tv. Throw away your paper, move to the country, build you a home. Plant a little garden. Eat a lot of peaches. Try and find Jesus, on your own”.
Yeah, I know I’ve just about worn out JP this week, but damn, he sure does have the answers.
And I’m STILL looking for “a level headed dancer, on the road to alcohol”.
Facilitation. Geez. More coffee…
Find a need and fill it. It’s just that simple.
And just that hard.
You may have to take a little job to get by while you build your empire. That is not a sign of failure, it is a sign of being smart and dedicated to your dream.
With your experiences in LE and retail and whatever we dont know, dont sell yourself short. NO ONE knows WTF they are doing when they go out on their own. You can do it.
And hey, we’re all behind ya, how can ya lose? :)
Thanks
So true, only those who are willing to take risks become independantly sucessful, and nothing gives more security and control than having your own business with YOU in charge.
I love having rental properties, it’s an investment that pays well and will give me an income for as long as I want it to. I plan to buy more in the next couple of years so that I can retire from my day job.
Barack’s not quite the second coming; he comes out of Chicago politics, after all, the last real bastion of Democratic machine politics, where payoffs, graft, and “favors” are a way of life. Where even the dead rise to vote democratic, again, and again, and again.
Out of that milieu comes Barack Obama. And his friend and associate, Tony Rezko. Tony’s a “fixer.” And it turns out that Barack is not quite the “new” kind of politician, the agent of change, he makes himself out to be.
Read for yourself:
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/02/what_you_didnt_know_about_obam.php
The question is, given the media fascination with Obama, and the kid glove treatment he’s gotten, will this become an issue?
Ron Paul had Ben Bernanke up against a wall Wednesday during the House Financial Services Committee. Dr. Paul raised the issue of the dollar’s deliberate destruction and how it directly relates to higher prices. After Bernanke shot back at Paul saying that they had to look at price stability, and aimed for low domestic inflation. Paul thenhighlighted the fact that the M3 money supply was rising at a rate of 16 per cent and that this was the real rate of inflation.
“History is against you,” Paul told Bernanke, “History is on the side of hard money – if you look at stable prices you have to look at the only historic sound money that’s lasted more than a few years – fiat money always ends, gold is the only thing where you get stable prices,” he added, pointing out that despite the price of oil’s rapid ascent, it had remained flat when compared to the price of gold.
Bernanke in the end agreed with Paul saying if the oil prices continue to rise like 2007 it will be hard to maintain low inflation.
http://freedompress.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/ron-paul-v-bernanke/
When President Obama signs the 2009 Gun Control Act, and all you gun owning Liberal Democrats have to turn in your guns, you will remember what I posted here. I will take no pleasure in telling you “I Told You So”. And YOU can take ALL of the blame.
100 million gun owners in America, and HALF are Democrats. You can still vote Democrat and keep your guns by voting for McCain.
http://www.issues2000.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm#Gun_Control
http://www.issues2000.org/Barack_Obama.htm#Gun_Control
John McCain:
http://www.issues2000.org/John_McCain.htm#Gun_Control
Dog –
Yes, buying a guitar is a holy experience. The interplay of wood, metal, electronics (if you’re into that), when you find the right one for you, is indeed magic. A row of “identical” guitars is discovered not to be identical at all, of course. I’m currently building my second (a Part-o-caster, but uniquely mine, and filling a void in the collection), and have, oh, 7 or so in the house (2 Custom Balladeers). Plus related stuff.
And since you’ve played, you know that when a band finds that magic pocket, it is also a mind-blowing experience, when the sum of the parts becomes greater than the whole. I’ve been fortunate enought to have that moment a few time; damn, it’s fun. I’m a mediocre guitarist, but I find my niche just the same, and enjoy the hell out of it.
I’ve got my own back of the mind thoughts over here. Maybe we should hook up; we might be able to help each other.
“If the policy objective is to subsidize health care costs of low-income Medicare beneficiaries,”
Who says that is policy objective?
Songbird – I have managed to duck it so far but …
Everyone I know has had it including my son and grandkids. All I can recommend is “Jewish penicillin” and lots of rest. And, for those here not from the East Coast – that is good old-fashioned chicken soup.
What this shows, is that despite what he says, he does NOT respect the 2nd amendment:
From http://www.issues2000.org/Barack_Obama.htm#Gun_Control
“Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)”
Just where is that “local ban” exception in the 2nd amendment?
“Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)”
Beware the “common-sense” restriction. Today they ban .50 cal. Next it’ll be .45s, as just a “commmon-sense” measure. Pretty soon, well, you get the picture. Every next step will be portrayed as common-sense. Uh-huh.
“2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)”
Why? What does that accomplish?
“Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)”
“Unscrupulous gun dealers” means, of course, all of them.
“Keep guns out of inner cities–but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)”
Again – just where is this “inner city exception to the 2nd amendment? And why should one be deprived of the most effective means of self-defense just where it is most needed? Ask the British how their total gun ban worked out . . .
“Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)”
I’ll hope this is just pure ignorance. Nearly ALL handguns are semi-automatics. One pull of the trigger, one shot. That includes most revolvers, all pistols. It also includes many shotguns and hunting rifles. Either he’s ignorant, or it shows you the real agenda. And he generally isn’t stupid . . .
“Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)”
Uh-huh. These suits are the equivalent of suing GM when a drunk driver hits you. They’re not about public safety at all, they’re about putting the firearms manufacturers out of business. Again, shows the agenda.
Max is sometimes over the top. But he’s got Obama about pegged here, if he had his way. Fortunately, I think the Democratic party won’t go there. Every time they do, it is disaster at the polls.
Just so you know . . .
My kid is interested in the guitar. I don’t know much about them. I played the sax for awhile.
We picked up a Peavey acoustical and a Peavey electric guitar after Christmas on clearance at Penney’s. They seem pretty nice and we only paid about $40 for each. heh I kinda like the electric one myself. But it is put away for my son’s birthday.
Dog- As you know, if you open your shop, your major competition will the Guitar Center in Wichita , and Musician’s Friend on line( I’ve purchased 11 guitars in the last 2 years). In defense, I would pay more for knowledgeable, hands on experience at a local establishment. I used to buy strings , etc. at E.M. Shorts for 15 years. That is until during the last 3 times I tried to purchase strings and couldn’t get anyone to stop BSing and help me. I subsequently removed their agony of suffering my business by leaving then forever.
Good luck with your dreams!
My 93 year old mom is in the hospital with it. She was in for an unrelated treatment 4 weeks ago and caught it there. Turned into double pneumonia and other complications. She’s tough. The doctors said at her age she probably wouldn’t make it. As of yesterday she was sitting up and demanding to go home. And Ben they gave her chicken soup everyday. One of the few things she could keep down and I think it cured her.
So far none of the rest of the family has caught it from her. My hands are practically bloody from frequent washings though.
Writer glad to hear the flu is gone. I’m trying to think of a business opp that is just waiting for you. It’s there just keep looking and keep that hammer and ladder handy. Spring is almost here.
Dog –
And ditto gster. Hands-on attention, ESPECIALLY when buying a guitar (which I will never do on-line; you just can’t get that magic connection) counts for lots. If you can provide that, you are a leg up on the on-line retailers. And you can compete (it’s also in part the way to compete against Wal-Mart).
AARP advise about riding out recession:
“The new wrinkle There is no new wrinkle, despite what you’ll hear about the smart money going to gold or timber or India or the latest financial product supposedly devised to slice and dice risk out of existence. “Today’s hot thing is almost always tomorrow’s loser,” says Kruzan. “It pays to know what you don’t know.”
http://www.aarpmagazine.org/money/ride_out_recession.html
Pleefer I was doing some research yesterday on investing in gold and came across an article in AARP about riding out a recession. These is some good info about various ways to invest to protect capital. Thought you might be interested.
Dog my favorite place to shop for guitars is in a pawnshop. Bought our last two there. The one on Broadway and Harry has a very knowledgeable guy there to answer question for us non-musical grandparents buying for grandkids. I love having someone who knows their products to talk to. They also stock all of the accessories – straps, bags, picks, etc…. Contrary to most beliefs their merchandise isn’t all used. They already have a store front and use it to sell other products. You would be good at that.
I agree on the over the top thing GMC. Most don’t understand the 2nd Amendment is about maintaining Freedom. So I go Cosmos on the 2nd Amendment issue.
If Democrats will believe that Obama supports the 2nd Amendment because HE SAYS SO, then the Democrats are dumber then I thought they were.
Maybe they will believe anything he says, because he says what they WANT to hear, as opposed to speaking the truth.
For all those Dems who chant “Bush Lied!”, you haven’t seen anything yet – if Obama wins.
Will be interesting to see how the rezko thing plays out. I’m a native of Chicago, moved here 2 yrs ago — knew that if Barak had a skeleton it would have something to do with the machine — they just named Gov. Blago…. as Person A in the rezko federal case up there —- wonder what the Barak dance will be ……. “…… ahhhh I just wrote the letters for my boss I didn’t sign em? …..
as a side bar it’s interesting to note that Patrick Fitzgerald is the federal AG(?) up there … They’ve been hacking away at the machine for 2 decades (silver shovel, gray shovel scandals) and not much changes ….. the last governor ryan finally went to prison on his corruption convictions
the Business community has a kind of love hate relationship with Da Mayor — he’s done wonders for downtown, the mag mile, getting O’Hare expanded (think its crowded now – wait til construction begins) he landed Boeing Hqrtrs over Dallas, is a serious candidate for the 2016 Summer Olympics —- brings a lot of jobs to the city — but then he closes Meigs Field overnight w/o telling anyone, has tried everything to fix the Public Schools without a lot of major improvemnts in performance, if ya need to get something done through the city — won’t do a lot of good by going to the approval office, got to go through ur alderman if ya really want anything expedited …… Chicagoans really think they are a city that “Works” — in spite of the cost
last time i was up there they had parking meters downtown — 25 cents for 5 (five) minutes
My 93 year old mom is in the hospital with it. — that would make you 80, right, ksgrm?
Dog,
I’d come over and look at your shop. I play mainly finger style guitar – have no rhythm, can’t dance – thus not good at strumming. But can tickle those strings.
I still have a Martin D-28, but don’t play it much, unless inspired by Neil Young or someone. Gave my stratocaster to a newphew who started a Christian band that was kept pretty busy – there was a larger market for that kind of material than I thought.
I have an OM-19 that is a Larrivee – handmade by a husband and wife in British Columbia. It is a much better guitar than I am a player. I usually play country style blues (which includes a fair share of gospel) by folks like Mississippi John Hurt and Rev. Gary Davis – electified versions of these songs were covered by Hot Tuna – an offshoot of Jefferson Airplane – back in the day.
I am not great at my craft, but I really enjoy it.
WOW! GMC I read your link above on the Obama story.
I posted this link a couple of days ago:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece
Obama’s friend Rezko was born in Syria.
Obama’s billionaire friend Nadhmi Auchi was born in Iraq.
Obama has been bought. A $2.6 Million house on a US Senator’s salary? Hmmm……
Salary for a US Senator is $169,000 per year.
Obama must be one of the victim’s of the sub-prime loan scandals to be able to afford a house that is 15 TIMES his annual salary.
How many average Joe’s out there making $30,000 per year are living in a $450,000 house?
The most incredible guitar I ever picked up was in a pawnshop in Lawrence, and it was a steal, but I tried for another $100 and lost it. Oh well; it was also the only decent guitar I ever found in a pawn shop. BTW the pawnshop (on sixth i think, or maybe ninth) in lawrence was/is one of two pawn shops I’ve ever visted that weren’t total rips. The other was in bentonville ark.
Other than the lawrence pawnshop, I’ve never found a decent guitar in any pawnshop, though many do cell (sell — phonetic typing, a growing problem as I age) cheap new models, for about double what you could get them for from any on-line discount house.
HOPE!
I HOPE I can buy a house that costs 15 TIMES as much as my Salary!
I can change!
I can change!
I can change!
If I can only HOPE!
Say Amway, you posted that General’s comments the other day – about his assessment of the Middle East.
If I recall, Syria and Iran were the two most dangerous countries, and of course Iraq is right in the middle.
And Obama’s buddies are from Iraq and Syria.
Hmmmmmm…….
Dog,
7 years on my own after a career of taking someone’s paycheck. Pretty scary sometimes, but I usually can make the rent, etc.
But one of these days, when the right client(s) show up…..
OH NO, now even Max has got that brain wasting disease that turns people into socialist DemLibs.
Are any of safe from it’s dementia.
Well Max, it was nice knowing you before it got ya.
There goes the Jewish vote….for Obama.
Jews Now Drawn Deeper Into Racial Politics
As Obama surges, new round of e-mails raises specter of Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton.
by James D. Besser
Washington Correspondent
With Sen. Barack Obama surging in his drive for the Democratic presidential nomination, a Jewish community that remains liberal on civil rights issues — but is also affected by black anti-Semitism, concerns about Israel and what one analyst called “latent racism” — is getting drawn deeper into bitter racial politics.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c39_a4619/News/International.html
Is Obama telling lies about his position on Israel, just like he’s telling lies about his position on the 2nd Amendment?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/27/AR2008022703512.html
REASSURING JEWISH VOTERS
Obama Rebuffs Challenges on His Israel Stance
By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 28, 2008; Page A08
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is engaged in a concerted effort to reassure Jewish leaders in the face of an increasingly aggressive Republican campaign to question his tolerance and his commitment to supporting Israel.
Well Boxlock, if gun owners can be fooled into thinking Obama supports the 2nd Amendment, Jews can be fooled into thinking Obama supports Israel, then why not join the believers?
Obama the Messiah.
Palestinian people suffer-but from not recognizing Israel
Q: You said recently, “No one is suffering more than the Palestinian people.” Do you stand by that remark?
A: Well, keep in mind what the remark actually, if you had the whole thing, said. And what I said is nobody has suffered more than the Palestinian people from the failure of the Palestinian leadership to recognize Israel, to renounce violence, and to get serious about negotiating peace and security for the region. Israel is the linchpin of much of our efforts in the Middle East.
Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007
http://www.issues2000.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Foreign_Policy.htm
So that’s your plan, wingers? Accuse Obama of knowing someone in Syria? And dumb as Americans are, it could work. We’ll know a lot of Syrians if the human fossil is elected.
Notice the smooth pivot of Bushbots directing their hate-filled posts to Obama now. I am sure Hillary feels very left out at this point.
Let’s hear about how great your presumptive candidate, John McCain, is. Oh? you don’t want to talk about him. Now – that is a surprise.
Paranoia strikes deep, “Max” –
Barack Obama’s own words:
At Cornell College on Dec. 5, 2007, a student asked Mr. Obama how his administration would view the Second Amendment.
He replied:
“There’s a Supreme Court case that’s going to be decided fairly soon about what the Second Amendment means. I taught Constitutional Law for 10 years, so I’ve got my opinion. And my opinion is that the Second Amendment is probably — it is an individual right and not just a right of the militia. That’s what I expect the Supreme Court to rule. I think that’s a fair reading of the text of the Constitution. And so I respect the right of lawful gun owners to hunt, fish, protect their families.”
“Like all rights, though, they are constrained and bound by the needs of the community . . . So when I look at Chicago and 34 Chicago public school students gunned down in a single school year, then I don’t think the Second Amendment prohibits us from taking action and making sure that, for example, ATF can share tracing information about illegal handguns that are used on the streets and track them to the gun dealers to find out — what are you doing?”
“There is a tradition of gun ownership in this country that can be respected that is not mutually exclusive with making sure that we are shutting down gun traffic that is killing kids on our streets. The argument I have with the NRA is not whether people have the right to bear arms. The problem is they believe any constraint or regulation whatsoever is something that they have to beat back. And I don’t think that’s how most lawful firearms owners think.”
Listen to the candidate’s real words, “Max,” not the voices in your head. Disagree with the candidate’s real words and real position, “Max,” don’t spew out your worst fears and attack them like straw men. Refute the candidate’s positions with rational arguments, logic, and facts, “Max,” instead of cowering in the corner fretting about your made-up fears regarding the 2nd Amendment.
Reality called. It misses you.
I’m just laughing my butt off.
Obama sure is bringing those republicans over from the dark side. hehehehehe. Kumbaya y’all.
You should see the guitars in the AUSTIN pawnshops.
Computers too.
It might be the live music and high tech capitals, but not everyone can pay the rent every month….
Sarah I am seventh of eight daughters so I’m not quite that old. I just feel that old some days and today is one of those.
I am 63 and proud of it. I’ve earned everyone of those years and my mom has been a great role model.
CF2K’s best bass deals:
-A powder blue, reissue Danelectro longhorn bass, with gig bag, at the Emporia Salvation Army: $39.95.
-A refinished (LPB), pre-CBS, L-Series 1965 Fender Precision Bass (clay dot fret markers/original pickups and wiring harness), at Kurt Morrow’s old music store in Wamego: $1500. Value has nearly doubled since then, not that I’d EVER sell it; the thought of doing so makes me physically nauseous.
writerdog,
Retail music is a touch, tough game. Your best bets are probably either to go beginner / high customer responsiveness, or used/ vintage/ boutique/ niche with a strong web presence. In either case, all the best.
Words.
Listen to Obama’s words, so the deceivers say.
Fools.
Look at how he has voted.
You believe more what someone Says vs what they Do?
KFG being from Western Kansas the home of many fine German cooks can you recommend a good kraut recipe with german sausage. My son just brought me some he got when they butchered. I remember an aunt who made a great kraut dish that was baked. If you know a link to a recipe direct me to it.
Thanks
“Sarah Bellum’s” post, in response to “ksgrm’s”
“My 93 year old mom is in the hospital…” was classic:
“Sarah Bellum said” —
“that would make you 80, right, ksgrm?”
Subtle, funny with its implications, and poor ol’ “ksgrm” was compelled to defend her mother’s honor.
And yes, “Sarah Belllum,” I get the wordplay, which makes me think you’re somebody’s sockpuppet. But I don’t care. Keep posting with wit.
Monkey with all of the strange nics around here I hesitate to pass one off as a sock puppet. So I responded in kind. Sorry if you thought I was defending my mothers honor. Hardly. She is still capable of doing that herself quite aptly. The only difference she and I have is she is a ‘yellow dog democrat’.
Sorry you have such a low concept of yourself that you have no worth beyond your bad attitude.
I’d cover the sausage (rope or link?) with kraut, apples, garlic and onions. (If you want to lower the fat, you can brown the sausage first, but deglaze the pan with beer after you pour oof the fat and add that to the kraut mix.)
I’d use seventy five percent as much onions as kraut, with a large granny smith apple and a few (4 or 5) cloves of garlic. How many depends on if the sausage is garlicy or not. Dont chop up the garlic. Put the cloves in whole. Or better yet…
Roast a whole head of garlic in the oven, (cut across the top to open in, pour olive oil over, then bake at 350 until soft) then squeeze the head and put in the roasted paste. Then slowly saute the onions in butter and it will all be sweeeeeeet. Mix the onions and garlic with the kraut and big chunks of apples and more sliced raw onions and cover the sausage. You can add a half cup of dark beer now if you didnt brown the sausage and deglaze the pan.
Needless to say, I like the full fat version, but our sausage is pretty lean.
Seal the whole deal with foil, bake for an hour or so at 350.
Serve with mashed potatoes.
yum
Works with pork ribs too :)
“ksfarmgrrl” –
You’re a girl and you’ve got a straw man:
“Obama sure is bringing those republicans over from the dark side.
Now all you need is a Tin Man and a Lion and you’re set!
Like all weak arguments, the “Kumbaya” attack has had no traction for the Republic Party or for you.
A couple of days ago I addressed the independent vote, the people who aren’t political junkies like us on WE Blog, who will make their presidential voting decision while standing in line at the polls, if not in the voting booth.
Obama isn’t bothering to try to win right wingnuts such as the Cons in this forum. They’d attack Jesus Christ if he happened to run on the Democratic ticket.
The “Ol’ Perfessor” Casey Stengle once said the secret of being a successful baseball manager was “…to keep those who hate you away from those who aren’t sure yet.” For better or for worse, right or wrong, “those who hate” Hillary have more influence over “those who aren’t sure yet.”
I will support with everything I can the 2008 Democratic nomination of either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama. Can you say as much?
I suspect either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama can win in November 2008.
I believe with all my soul either will be a better president than John W. McBush.
I believe Barack Obama has proven himself to be the better candidate for that Democratic victory in November.
…and did I mention the only mashed ‘taters worth eating are made with lots of real butter and heavy cream?
hehehehheheheehheheheheheheehhe!
I’d also serve with rye bread and sweet butter.
heeeeeee. Heart attack on a plate, but hey, ya only live once…
Thanks KFG. I’m on my way to the grocers now to get ingredients and will try it tonight.
ksfg – sounds good – when are you serving it all up?
ah, ‘granny’ – ;)
I’ll bring the boys!
‘Grandpa’
Oh yeah, and I wouldnt add ANY salt. Maybe just some cracked black pepper, depending on how the sausage is seasoned.
You can do this on top of the stove too, in a big skillet with a tight fitting lid.
Some dumplings might be good too… heheheheheheh.
Cant have too many carbs to go with the fat.
…ponders the longevity of beer at kfg’s house…
Well Ben, yer about three hours away, so it’ll be done when you get here.
Seriously.
Yes, listen to Obama’s real words from today.
Ignore what he has said or done in the past.
Watch my stop watch swinging from the chain…
back and forth
back and forth
back and forth
tic toc
tic toc
Believe me now.
Hope.
Change.
Hope.
Change.
Tic.
Toc.
Heheheh. Reg, dark beer lasts a long time. I only use it for cooking. Coors lasts not so long.
Yeah I know. Cue coors jokes about it resembling making love in a canoe…
I AM from western Kansas, where we grow up spelling Koolaide C-O-O-R-S!
“ksfarmgrrl” –
Thanks for the kraut & sausage recipe!
Y’know, I think you and I would get along together okay in the real world. We’d probably argue all night over kraut & sausage leftovers and bad Kansas wine. But I like how you think even when I think your thinking is wrong.
And all that garlic and onions? I’m in love.
I’ve heard about your fried chicken and I wanna be in the kitchen when you prepare it. I make pretty good fried chicken, but it’s not quite there yet. Is it the seasonings? Is it the temperature? Is it the oil? Is it whether you cover the pan for a while or not? What is the capital of North Dakota?
Some answers are just beyond me.
Well since this will be my first try better go to KFG’s. If it is a success I’ll make enough for a crowd next time.
I know all the vegetarians and health food folks must be feeling a little sick right now.
heh, it Texas when I lived it was Pearl as the national beer of Texas and if you were a real Texan it was long neck Lonestars. However, if one had some Coors, it was like the finest champagne from France had been imported. :D
Shiner beer was yechy imo.
“ouch!”
Children who are spanked or given some form of physicial punishment by their parents may be more likely to have sexual problems as adults, a new study finds.
An analysis of four studies by Murray Straus, co-director of the Family Research Laboratory at the University of New Hampshire-Durham, found that children who suffer physical punishment in the form of spanking, hitting or slapping are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior as adults, it is reported by USA Today.
The study, presented Thursday to the American Psychological Association, suggests that spanked children also are more likely to be “physically or verbally coercing” to a sexual partner and engage in masochistic sex, including arousal by spanking, later in life.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333551,00.html
American Way,
I guess then saying to your gal friend, “Go cut me a switch from that tree” is not the proper thing to say on a date. :D
Sorry, “Regular” –
You’re wrong again.
Lone Star was “the National Beer of Texas,” back in the 80s when all their trucks were attacked by giant armidillos.
A truly great advertising campaign.
Hmmmm…. fried chicken.
Seasoning secret is Tony Chacherre’s and lots of it. Both on the chicken and in the flour.
Season chicken, let it sit for a few minutes, roll it in flour, let it sit for a few minutes while the oil (about an inch) is heating. I use plain veggie oil.
When the oil is 350 or so (no higher) roll chicken in flour again, then put pieces of similar size in pan. I.e. I fry wings and legs together and thighs and big breast pieces together. (Yeah, I’m a breast woman :) Dont let pieces touch each other.
Fry for 10 minutes a side for little pieces, 15 minutes per side for big pieces. Cover the pan while cooking, try to turn it only once. Sometimes you have to fry on three sides to get it good and brown.
Drain it on a rack as it comes out of the oven. Dont drain on paper towels. That makes it soggy ’cause it actually generates steam. Immediately after it comes out of the pan, hit it LIGHTLY with Tony’s again.
Serve hot with a side of garden hose ’cause it’s gonna be juicy.
Mashed potatoes and cream style corn. Sliced tomatoes and cukes if ya got em. Sweet tea, yeast rolls, and apple pie if you can stand it.
Nap for five hours….
Hee hee hee… at my restaurant, I warned the staff that nothing went out of the kitchen without Tony’s on it except dessert.
Fried chicken … about 1 inch peanut oil – hot. ‘Bread’ the chicken with seasoned flour – include Tobasco in the flour mix. Now for the trick: CAREFULLY add about a half-cup water to the oil and CAREFULLY cover. The steam helps keep the chicken juicy.
Need to turn it halfway through and add a bit more water.
Messy but good.
And speaking of wine… if you dont have dark beer, you can deglaze the pan with a little white wine. Reisling (sp?) if ya got it.
Well, I added Lone Star later, but in San Antonio, it was Pearl – because there was a Pearl Brewery there. (Lone Star – real Texans comment.)
The people outside of San Antonio, the Austinites, Houstonians and Drug Store Cowbows of Dallas, Fort Worth drank Lone Star.
In West Texas, curiously enough they liked Pearl – cheaper I guess?
I know I’m boring some of you to death. If you tune in tomorrow, I’m making GUMBO. Real gumbo, with roux the color of cocoa….
I think now the national beer of tejas is Shiner Bock. But I’m with you. Icky.
Pearl beer is right down there with “Billy” beer. “When you’re out of Pearl, you’ve been out of beer for a long time!”
Oh, and the capital of North Dakota is Bismark?
*puts on Little Feat*
“we’re makin’ gumbo…. mighty rad gumbo”
Years ago, when I was living in Cajun country, I asked “the best cook in town” for her recipes.
She was about 4-foot-seven and three hundred years old. She said “it all depends on your roux.”
I told he I knew that, but how did she fix her roux? What do you put in it?!
And she looked me in the eyes with all sincerity and said, “Whatever you think is right.”
I had the good fortune to travel through the genuine Louisiana bayous one Mardi Gras where a horse-drawn wagon visited all the homes and collected whatever the individual families chose to contribute into a community pot. It was brought back to the main town where the old Cajun ladies stirred a pot the size of Act 1, Scene 1 of “Macbeth.” They had their roux made and the rest of the stuff, from all the rest of the people, went into the community pot. And then the band started.
Three or four hours later, after dancing and drinking, everyone ate out of the same pot. Pork and crawfish, home-smoked bacon and “Weldon Brussard’s Sausage” and okra and rice and the damnedest combinations of spices (from the old women’s roux) was one of my Top Five Meals Ever.
And, as I think about my Top Five Meals Ever, it’s not just the food, but the company. It’s not just the company, but the food. We’ve all had ‘em.
Might make for an interesting thread.
I had never heard of Little Feat until I lived in Western Kansas.
“If you’ll be my Dixie Chicken,
I’ll be your Tennessee lamb…”
….or, as they said in Fried Green Tomatoes, “the secret’s in the sauce” wink wink I spent a lot of time in loooo-seeeee-anna.
Dancing the chanky chank.
Did you know the real way to serve gumbo, besides with rice, is with a scoop of potato salad on the side?
Soon as you pull your panties out of your crack “duh???”, come join the rest of us in some normal conversation.
(chortles)
HEEEEEE.
Steven, I’d be your Dixie Chicken any day.
Gumbo is delicious. Unfortunately my attempts end up tasting like creamed okra. :(
“They all ask about you, down on the farm. The cows ask, the pigs ask, the horses ask too. Miss you so much..”
Add the okra at the end. But I prefer file’ myself.
Roux = Flour and lard in equal parts. Or oil if your are a health foodie :)
Do you keep a tin or crockery near your stove full of lard kfg? My grannies used to do that. :D
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Add the okra at the end. But I prefer file’ myself.
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ah :D
Well, uh, now that you mention it…
(sheepishly)
It’s a can of DRIPPIN’s, not lard exactly.
Farmie,
I’ve had good luck with my garden in the past – right up until harvest. The first round or two of cukes and squash are fine. Then the vines die. I’ve been told it is how I harvest – where I cut it away – but not told what I was doing wrong. Where do you cut them when ripe from the vine?
“DRIPPIN’s” is the magic fo BBQ. Use the drippins form the ribs in your baked beans.
Good God, KFG.
I don’t care what your politics is. I just GOTTA get out there and eat your food.
Wow. And you’re doing this at lunch, as I sit here with my Diet Coke and some chips. It’s just not fair.
Best wishes with the cookin’. And don’t worry about the healthies. They may live a bit longer, but they’re not living nearly as well.
And yes, I’d second a foods/gardening thread.
Can hardly wait for the gumbo. Haven’t had real gumbo since NO in 1976. Didn’t have a stuffy nose or sinus for several years after that.
Where is your next restaurant going to be. We always stop at Meridays in Russell when going west. Theirs is good but yours sounds much better.
Now there’s nothing like one of the below from New Orleans:
Pooh Boys
Red Beans and Rice
Breakfast at Brennan’s
Hee, I guess this IS the f&g thread for the day!
Sollie, I knew you’d show up. heheheheeh.
PICK the fruits, dont cut them. Pull the stem off the vine. The plant WANTS to go to seed. It has a need to reproduce, just like animals, and if it thinks it isnt going to seed, it will put on more fruit. Make sense? So pulling the fruit, stem and all, from the vine, makes them think some mean animal chomped it off. It gets pissed and puts on MORE fruit with a vengence.
Some varieties dont get more than two rounds or so. I like heirloom varieties, and the seed packets will tell ya if they are or not.
Sometimes they quit producing in the heat too.
But try stressing the roots as well. This works for tomatoes. Take a big knife and cut a circle in the soil, about a foot around the main stem. It cuts the roots underground, alarms the plant, and again, it puts on fruit like crazy. This is good if it’s just blooming and wont set. Or if no blooms either.
Make sure the soil has lots of nutrients. Put on poop if you are an organic grower, Miracle Grow if you arent.
Also, dont let the fruits get too big. Leaving overgrown fruit on the vine makes the plant relax and think it’s done it’s job for posterity. Pick early and pick often is my motto :)
Mothers Po Boys WITH burnt ends and drippins.
“sell my clothes, I am goin’ to heaven”.
Grm, there wont be another restaurant. I’ve learned my lesson… It’s too much work and not enough money.
And the entire town of Collyer gained weight. Big time. Heheheheheheh.
But… there may be a bbq contest in my future. I do a mean pork loin and brisket. And of course, my locally famous baked beans and my nationally famous potato salad :) Where’s JM Walker?
And I hear CF does the best ribs in town.
Maybe we should have a WEBlog team?
http://www.hdnews.net/Story/patlowry022408-col
Shrimp boats (fried shrimp in a hollowed out loaf of bread).
Oh and reg? Bloody Mary’s and raw oysters for breakfast at Ralph and Kackoos (Sp?)
I do a mean Chilli but have toned it down a little lately. My youngest son is the best cook in the family and his family calls it Dynomite Chilli. He uses my old recipe.
Lived in NOs from 63 to 70.
I am not reg or Sollie, btw. It’s OK though.
Real french bread!
Real Muffalatta sandwiches (sp)!
Oh yeah, ya gotta have real French bread to sop up the drippin’s, gravy, and roux. Or butter if you have none of the above.
Ok for all you REAL southerners? I have two words.
Pot “liquor”.
Grm, I’ve toned down the chili too. If I want REALLY hot food, I have, as CF said, “pan asian commie food”.
Thai food with bird peppers, ginger and basil :)
Real French bread (malt bread) is delicious. Miss buying and eating it from when I lived in Europe. Europe had the best breads…
ksfarmgrrl,
OK so my ignorance is showing.
What is “Pot “liquor”.”
Thx farmie,
I looked at that squar garden book. This will be our first year gardening at the new house. Think I am going to go traditional. Have to till up a fair piece.
Any suggestions?
BTW, I have been using Lowery’s (sp?) season pepper, garlic and lots of salt for my fried chicken. Goes over well with the yanks up here.
Any tips on opening a restaraunt? What kind of start up capital do you need?
square maybe?
“What kind of start up capital do you need?”
no such thing as too much! :)
The key to any start up biz, as I said to writerdog, is a business plan. Do a conservative one, with cash flow projections, and that will help you determine your operating costs. Better have access to enough money to operate for a year. Like I told WD, if you cant make it work on paper, it wont work in real life either.
Start up costs are for what it takes to open the doors. Equipment, fees, licenses, inventory, and hiring and training money. Operating costs are ongoing AFTER the doors are open. You need to figure both. Dont buy what you can lease.
The other key, besides access to capital, are your employees. I lost a lot of money at first until I got a good crew together. Stupid and lazy employees will cost you your business.
Also key for food businesses is portion control and pricing. Gotta keep the food costs below thirty percent. Make friends with your food vendors. They can make ya or break ya.
Yeah Grm, Jack is way cool to talk with and there are some very good guitars there because of Jack.
BTW if you go in there again and see some tall guy that looks like a balding, mustached Neil Diamond walking around. Tell him you know someone who said he is STILL uglier then I am! He will know who you are talking about. LOL
I used to use Season all before I discovered Tony’s.
Screw the yanks :)
Pot “licker” as they say, is the broth that comes from cooking greens.
As they also say in the south “it’ll make ya slap yer momma”.
Great when you sop it up with corn bread….
BTW JR if you did not read in my post above, its important that your son gets with someone that can help him through the beginning of playing his guitar. It does not have to be a paid teacher, most people who just how played for a couple of years can help as long as they remember they are not dealing with someone who already plays. As I said he need to first find out he can play a guitar with a simple song. Then would be the time to get with a good teacher.
I can understand why you like the electric, of the two basic types of guitars electrics does not require much skill or knowledge to sound cool.
“have played” not how played.
If I did not live so far away and even then if I happen to be in wichita I would help out.
I wish global warming would hurry up.
“Tuesday we told you about several areas around the planet experiencing record cold and snowpack — in the face of all the predictions of global warming.
Now there is word that all four major global temperature tracking outlets have released data showing that temperatures have dropped significantly over the last year. California meteorologist Anthony Watts says the amount of cooling ranges from 65-hundredths of a degree Centigrade to 75-hundreds of a degree.
That is said to be a value large enough to erase nearly all the global warming recorded over the past 100 years. It is reportedly the single fastest temperature change ever recorded — up or down.”
We’re freezing our asses off up here. One of the worst winters in the past 8 years. Yeah, that global warming…
Hey fleettwood,
Where did you find that info?
The Interwebnets
ksfarmgrrl,
“I used to use Season all before I discovered Tony’s.”
Who is Tony?
fleettwood,
Sorry about all the bother.
Do you have a link?
http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080227211912AAhBvPI
Now cosmo might have to get a life. And a real job.
And where are the links to incest mothers, they were supposed to be here.
Ponderous, man, ponderous.
fleettwood,
Thanks for the link!
The debate goes on.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/al_poster600×889.jpg
A magazine “The Advocate” published by pro-life students at UCLA has conducted an undercover probe into whether or not Planned Parenthood still harbors some of the racist policies it has been accused of promoting since its founding. The Advocate called Planned Parenthood centers in several states and found officials supportive of abortions on black Americans.
On Tuesday, the magazine released phone recordings, available now on the YouTube Internet page, of Planned Parenthood staffers approving a donor’s racist agenda, the undercover offer of a donation to promote the killings of black babies in order to reduce the undesirable black population. Not one Planned Parenthood abortion mill in 7 states objected to the racist motivation.
Indeed, the main reason that the brutality, abuses, and criminal violations in many abortion mills are not more vigorously attacked is that one third of the tiny dead victims are black, a killing rate 3 times higher than white babies. About 80% of Planned Parenthood’s abortion mills are located in minority neighborhoods. Nearly half of all black babies are killed in abortion mills.
Planned Parenthood has a dream.
- – -
Three U.S. House Republicans are calling for the termination of Planned Parenthood’s federal funding, partly because Planned Parenthood’s Teenwire Internet page promotes the illegal use of pornography by minors.
There are many other good reasons to cut all funding to Planned Parenthood abortion mills, of course, which include mothers killed by botched abortions.
In its 2005-2006 annual report, Planned Parenthood Federation of America reported that $305.3 million, or 34 percent of its annual income, came from government grants and contracts – money out of your pocket, if you pay federal taxes.
Just in from FOX news:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333612,00.html
Navy officials on Thursday told FOX News the USS Cole was in the Mediterranean Sea after earlier reports said the ship was off the coast of Lebanon in a “show of support” for Lebanon’s regional stability.
A senior official said the United States blames Syria for political deadlock in Lebanon, Reuters reported.
The USS Cole left Malta on Tuesday for the eastern Mediterranean “in support of a U.S. commitment to regional stability,” according to one senior defense official who also said President Bush is concerned about stability during Lebanon’s March 11 election.
The USS Cole was to be accompanied directly by two Navy oilers. Three other Navy vessels also were headed to the Mediterranean as part of a regularly scheduled deployment: the USS Ross destroyer, the USS Nassau amphibious assault ship and the USS Philippine Sea cruiser.
Al Qaeda operatives bombed the USS Cole in 2000, killing 17 U.S. sailors and nearly sinking the $1 billion warship in Aden Harbor, Yemen.
This month the United States expanded economic sanctions on Syria, saying it is responsible for destabilizing Lebanon.
FOX News’ Justin Fishel contributed to this report.
Illustration of a nonissue, IMO, that is keeping the scholarly sort busy: is the fact that Sen. McCain was born in the Canal Zone make him ineligible to serve as President in light of the Constitutional provision that “No Person except a natural born Citizen,…..,shall be eligible to the Office of President; * * *” (Constitution of the United States, Article II, section 1).
No scholar, I; and, clearly, the term “natural born” is not defined. See the quotation in the linked article from the correspondence therein cited. From my perspective, and setting up a premise that there might be someone with standing to bring an action to determine this issue, I believe the answer to be that Sen. McCain is a “natural born Citizen…”.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html?_r=2&ref=politics&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
American, it’s Tony Chachare’s Original Creole Seasoning. You can get it in most grocery stores in the spice aisle.
http://www.tonychchere.com
This one is for Sol (and all else who might be interested):
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/01/ron-paul-apostles-libertarian-theology.html
“Sen. McCain was born in the Canal Zone…”
They missed with their last missile (affairs, improper lobbying), they have to shoot again.
Those be some big eyebrows.
Interesting question; is someone born in the Canal Zone, which no longer exists, a “natural born” citizen? Or was he Ceasarian?
Sarah Bellum,
Isn’t Ceasarian a province of ancient Rome?
“natural born” – whether Canal Zone or anywhere else it strikes me that anyone born of US parents should qualify. And this should go double IMO if they were born on a “US reservation” (Embassy, base) overseas. A non-issue IMO.
Caeserian – “man not born of woman” – Julius Caeser.
In Macbeth, Macduff was able to kill Macbeth, who was unable to be harmed by anyone of woman born, because Macduff was “from his mother’s womb untimely ripp’d”[1] — born via a Caesarean section.
Ron Paul has made some good points, bua also is somewhat of a “kook”.
I agree with him on most of the fiscal issues, regarding the dollar and gold and the debt.
He would however pull all support from all foreign countries of which Israel would have the biggest effect from. They would be overrun.
I would be something if an illegal anchor baby could be president and one born to a Military family couldn’t.
Ben,
And Caesar salad?
ben– Were you ever in a class taught by “Old Flick”? He knew his Shakespear.
Wasn’t the Panama Canal a possession of the US until what President sold it? Carter?
Vaughn
Wasn’t the Canal Zone a U.S. territory at the time of McCain’s birth – hence a non-issue. I remember back in the day of them having representatives at national party conventions.
Did we sell the Panama Canal or did its lease expire and the landlord was unwilling to re-rent it? I’m thinking the latter.
Don’t bring a stick to a knife fight.
And pee quicker.
“An 18-year-old man suffered five stab wounds to the stomach in a fight over how long he was taking in the bathroom of a home in the Linda Vista area, authorities said Tuesday.
The stabbing at 1888 Coolidge St. was reported at 7:30 p.m. Monday, San Diego police Sgt. Bob Dare said.
An argument between the victim and a 28-year-old man who lived at the home escalated into a fight in which three of the man’s friends jumped in and began fighting with the victim, Dare said.
A friend of the victim, a 41-year-old man, came to his aid and the two armed themselves with sticks, Dare added.
During the fight, the man who lived at the home and his friends threw bottles at the victim and his friend, and one armed himself with a knife and stabbed the victim five times in the stomach, he said.”
At least they got the minimum wage passed.
“WASHINGTON – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked the Justice Department on Thursday to open a grand jury investigation into whether Josh Bolten, the White House chief of staff, and Harriet Miers, President Bush’s former counsel, should be prosecuted for contempt of Congress”
fleettwood,
I have a life, and a real job.
But you don’t seem smart enough to even understand very simple concepts.
El Nino causes warming. La Nina causes cooling.
January 2007 was an El Nino (warmer) month, January 2008 was a La Nina (cooler) month.
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/ENSO_DD_archive.shtml
AGW deniers are “cherry-picking”, and comparing a warm El Nino January (’07) to a cold La Nina January (’08).
And ignoring the long-term warming trend since the mid-1970’s.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/
“Global Temperature Trends: 2007 Summation
The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis.
2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the “El Niño of the century”. The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle.
Figure 1 shows 2007 temperature anomalies relative to the 1951-1980 base period mean. The global mean temperature anomaly, 0.57°C (about 1°F) warmer than the 1951-1980 mean, continues the strong warming trend of the past thirty years that has been confidently attributed to the effect of increasing human-made greenhouse gases (GHGs) (Hansen et al. 2007). The eight warmest years in the GISS record have all occurred since 1998, and the 14 warmest years in the record have all occurred since 1990. “
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I guess we can file this under “no shit?”
The ethanol bust
Source: Fortune
The ethanol boom is running out of gas as corn prices spike.
NEW YORK (Fortune) — Cargill announces it’s scrapping plans for a $200 million ethanol plant near Topeka, Kan. A judge approves the bankruptcy sale of an unfinished ethanol plant in Canton, Ill.. And that was just Tuesday.
Indeed, plans for as many as 50 new ethanol plants have been shelved in recent months, as Wall Street pulls back from the sector, says Paul Ho, a Credit Suisse investment banker specializing in alternative energy. Financing for new ethanol plants, Ho says, “has been shut down.”
How can the ethanol industry be slumping only two months after Congress passed an energy bill most experts consider a biofuels boon? The answer is runaway corn prices.
Spurred by an ethanol plant construction binge, corn prices have gone stratospheric, soaring from below $2 a bushel in 2006 to over $5.25 a bushel today. As a result, it’s become difficult for ethanol plants to make a healthy profit, even with oil at $100 a barrel.
Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/27/magazines/fortune/ethan…
THE OLD MAN IS NOT SQUEAKY CLEAN AS HE SAYS
Not all conservatives thought the Times was off-base in going after McCain’s ties to lobbyists. These activists are angry that McCain is surrounded by lobbyists who put corporate interests ahead of conservative interests. They note, for example, that it has been impossible to get McCain to firmly commit to opposing the U.N.’s Law of the Sea Treaty. McCain has also indicated support for the International Criminal Court.
Five weeks ago a conservative coalition sent a letter to McCain asking for clarification of his position on the Law of the Sea Treaty. There has been no response.
Some inquiries on this matter to McCain’s presidential campaign have been deflected to his Senate office, where staffers are lately telling his Arizona constituents that he is in favor of the pact. McCain had earlier told conservative bloggers that he was against it. Before that, he was in favor of the treaty. The confusion leads some to conclude that the only way to get a straight answer is to hire a lobbyist with special access to the candidate.
In the latest controversy, McCain’s campaign initially claimed that no representative of Paxson Communications or the lobbying firm Alcalde & Fay personally had asked Senator McCain to send a letter to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) on behalf of Paxson, who had wanted approval to buy a television station. But Newsweek discovered that McCain himself, during a deposition, had admitted that “I was contacted by Mr. [Lowell] Paxson on this issue.” And Paxson tells the Post that he did have a meeting with McCain, although accounts differ on that.
McCain’s high-powered attorney, Bob Bennett, responded by telling the Post, “We understood that he [McCain] did not speak directly with him [Paxson]. Now it appears he did speak to him. What is the difference? McCain has never denied that Paxson asked for assistance from his office. It doesn’t seem relevant whether the request got to him through Paxson or the staff. His letters to the FCC concerning the matter urged the commission to make up its mind. He did not ask the FCC to approve or deny the application. It’s not that big a deal.” McCain was then the head of the Senate committee with jurisdiction over the FCC and its budget.
One of those defending McCain against the original story in the Times was John Feehery, who issued a statement declaring, “This kind of journalism only diminishes the reputation of the Times. I would expect this kind of reporting from the National Enquirer, not the New York Times.”
It turns out that Feehery is a lobbyist, too. A former top aide to former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, his firm, the Feehery Group, claims an “impressive list of Fortune 500 companies and trade associations, including Newscorp, Ford Motor Company, PHARMA, and the United States Chamber of Commerce, among its clients.” His website declares, “John Feehery’s extensive network of contacts on the Hill, on K Street and in the media rivals that of anybody else in Washington.”
It doesn’t help McCain to have lobbyists defending him against New York Times stories about his ties to lobbyists.
There was a Civil War general who had presidential hopes, and he always claimed he was born in the US, but he knew he was born on a boat in the middle of the Atlantic ocean. Nothing came of his presidential hopes (he was a lousy general).
What a DOPE!
“After completing two tours in Iraq, Sgt. Wayne Leyde won $1 million from a scratch-and-win lotto ticket on Tuesday.
Soldier Hits The JackpotNow that he’s won, Leyde, a 26-year-old member of the Washington National Guard, says he’s still going to volunteer to go back to Iraq for a third tour and won’t spend any of the money in the meantime.”
The “naturalized citizen” bit is the biggest non-issue ever. By US law, if you are born to US citizens, anywhere in the world, you are a natural born citizen of the US. McCain’s parents were in the Canal Zone; his father was in the military (an admiral, IIRC). The Zone was then US territory, leased from Panama (lease ran out in ‘79, I think).
Put it this way – the inverse of “natural-born citizen” is “naturalized citizen.” Is McCain a “naturalized citizen?” Of course not.
Duh. Non-issue. Next.
“After completing two tours in Iraq, Sgt. Wayne Leyde won $1 million from a scratch-and-win lotto ticket on Tuesday.
Soldier Hits The JackpotNow that he’s won, Leyde, a 26-year-old member of the Washington National Guard, says he’s still going to volunteer to go back to Iraq for a third tour and won’t spend any of the money in the meantime.”
Says a lot, doesn’t it? I suspect his unit’s going, so he’ll go. My oldest felt the same way; when his unit went, he wanted to go with them (he couldn’t; medical issues. Once those were cleared, he went).
Where do we find these amazing young men and women?
fleettwood,
It seems that your 4:21 pm post is what you did in school, instead of learning science, and statistics.
heh heh
good one cosmos!
Yeah, that’s it. I learned not to jump on Liberal bandwagons. You global warmers and Jesus freaks have irrational faith in common.
“He knew his Shakespear.”
Apparently better than Old Fleet who can’t even spell the name as it’s spelled today . . .
“Where do we find these amazing young men and women?”
There is a really informative scene about that in Michael Moores “Fahrenheit 911″
fleettwood posted
“I learned not to jump on Liberal bandwagons. You global warmers and Jesus freaks have irrational faith in common.”
The AGW “bandwagon” has been rolling for a long time, and it’s correct.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/timeline.htm
“1896: Arrhenius publishes first calculation of global warming from human emissions of CO2″
And “irrational faith” is denying the AGW science, and instead believing in the nonscience nonsense.
cosmos,
So El Nino and La Nina are caused by man made co2? :)
You gonna tax that nasty La Nina for making it colder?
(chortles)
Here’s something you may not know about John McCain: He was born in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936. His father was stationed there in the Navy.
The New York Times reports the circumstances surrounding McCain’s birth raise questions about his ability to become president since our founding fathers specifically said only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the highest office in the land. The idea was to prevent foreigners from becoming president.
HMMMM…”Natural-born citizen” is a plain enough legal term. I think he does NOT qualify!
This is a HUGE News Story:
The Real R2D2: ASTRO Takes on Space Rogues
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333575,00.html
-Satellite Defender
-Satellite Mechanic
-Satellite Rescue
-Satellite Attacker
-Satellite Spy
-Satellite Kidnapper
-Star Wars Weapon
In the 20th Century, controlling the Air became necessary to win a war.
In the 21st Century, controlling Space is necessary to win a war.
I’m glad the US appears to be ahead in this race.
Fap on, cosmo, fap on.
“I think he does NOT qualify!”
Quick! Somebody wake up Fred Thompson!
ASTRO could spy on Russian/Chinese spy satellites, flying up close, circling them, even touching them if needed to examine them.
And ASTRO could stand in their way, blocking their view. Or ASTRO could blow them up or push them down to crash into Earth.
Fred Thompson to the rescue! We can only dream….
Thank you fleetie.
You are so mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_documents_contradict_Sept._11_Commission_0228.html
An interesting new wrinkle in the 9-11 whitewash has developed.
Turns out that the “chance meeting” of two 9-11 hijackers with an innocent Saudi in LA who then set them up with an apartment in San Diego is totally bogus.
FBI files released under FOIA show that they the hijackers went right to this Saudi’s apartment from day one, in direct contradiction of the 9-11 whitewash which claimed no on-the-ground support system for the terror network.
Gee, I wonder if that Saudi was one of the dudes quietly spirited out of the country ASAP with the connivance of the White House?
16 out of 19 hijackers were Saudis . . . so we HAD to invade Iraq.
Makes sense if you’re a CON, I guess.
I’m guessing that CapnAmerica does not understand the concept of Jihad and Al Qaeda.
“The Raw Story is a left-leaning news and politics weblog founded in 2004.”
“Tell me what to think tell me what to think tell me what to think”
Captain, did you see this today?
From a republican, Dana Rohrabacher no less?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×2936623
I cant remember where I saw that Terry Nichol’s wife’s name was Padilla. And a picture of Jose Padilla and “Suspect Two” picture side by side shows them to be dead RINGERS for each other.
no pun intended.
And Kennedy was Lincoln’s secretary and Lincoln was Kennedy’s secretary…
Wait, it gets even better.
Turns out that the Saudi’s wife was getting money sent to her by Prince Bandar’s wife.
Of course, that means there’s nothing to see here and we should invade Iran for supporting “terrorism” . . . if you’re a CON, that is.
Lot of babies born to Military Members overseas. The procedure once a child is born to Military Parents in an overseas location, is to file paperwork at the local embassy. Once that is done, the sovereignty of the U.S. Embassy makes the birth as a U.S. Citizen.
In simpler words for you Leftist Libs, McCain is a U.S. citizen.
Me thinks Capn left out a step – Afghanistan…
When I die, and am allowed to know all things, I want to know who shot JR and WTF was up with 9/11.
Um, I guess I already know who shot JR…
Interesting, KGrrl.
Interesting.
That the radical reich-wing and foreign terrorists could be linked?
What are you, some kind of conspiracy-theorist?
Wait a minute.
9-11 was a conspiracy.
What did Iraq have to do with al Qaeda and jihad, PRE-invasion?
Need some help with the answer – it begins with “N.”
I dunno Clark, ask Capn, he tried to tied the two together.
“I’m guessing that CapnAmerica does not understand the concept of Jihad and Al Qaeda.”
So what did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
Keep asking the question Clark. No one will answer it.
The issue with Iraq occurred before 911.
Or are you leaving out the previous decade?
Or leaving out Clinton’s statements about Iraq?
Or leaving out the corrupting and disrupting influence Iraq had in the region?
Or leaving out that ‘oil for food’ programs were corrupted by corrupt U.N. people and industrialists from France, Germany and Russia?
That the above countries were providing weapons and weapons parts to Iraq.
For what purpose?
This isn’t about Democratic – Republican party thing, it’s a complex issue.
So hold your breath trying to twist 911 into an Iraqi thing.
It’s perverted leftist logic trying to justify something (who knows what)
Go ahead, re-write history, re-invent the facts, start conspiracy theories, speculate, play the wild care, be the Monday morning quarterback.
Cry over spilled milk, etc etc.
Continue on with your arm flailing, we’ll wait until your group thrashing is over.
Isn’t Ceasarian a province of ancient Rome?
something like that. I didn’t feel like looking it up.
“It’s perverted leftist logic trying to justify something (who knows what)”
“After 9/11, yada, yada, yada……………”
On and on and on and on…………….
You CON’s conveniently forget that during the Clinton years, Hussein kicked the UN Inspectors out of Iraq. They returned in 2002 and only left again we Bush began the bombing.
It is not a complex question – what threat was Saddam and Iraq to the United States?
The answer is none.
No reason for invasion.
According to Clinton, Iraq had Weapons of Mass destruction, this was long before Bush took office.
Like I said Clark, you can re-invent history if you want, but it doesn’t change what has occurred.
So go cry in your Lib corner and complain, nothing will change because of your tears.
According CON’s, we were justified in invading Iraq because Saddam was a BAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD man.
And he had a really bad mustache.
Caesarea was a province in old Israel I think. It had a longer name, but don’t recall what it was.
Most Roman phrases (Latin) had the name (adjective of the reign) and the region or the object.
“According to Clinton, Iraq had Weapons of Mass destruction, this was long before Bush took office.”
Damn, you CON’s are thick headed.
Saddam kicked the UN Inspectors out in 1998. Clinton had every reason to believe that Hussein kicked them out because Saddam had restarted his WMD program.
The Inspectors returned in 2002 and were well on their way to PROVING that Hussein was nothing more than a paper tiger.
Or are you trying to say that we invaded Iraq based on 1998 intelligence?
Dumbass.
Still weeping are ya WSClark?
Gonna erase all those entries in the Clinton history book so you can get the answers you want?
Here, take this gummy eraser – get started.
(chortles)
GMC asks >>>>
“Where do we find these amazing young men and women?”
Ummmm on specially akred boxes of Frosted Flakes, maybe?? :-)
boring…
Same old, pointless argument..
wonk wonk wonk
Let’s re-invent history tactic…
akred = marked
“Gonna erase all those entries in the Clinton history book so you can get the answers you want?”
Thick headed idiots……………………
All of the CON’s.
Everyone of them.
tears for his fears – Clarkie-san
waaah waaah
I didnt’ get my way, so gonna re-write history
waaah waaaah
“Same old, pointless argument.. Let’s re-invent history tactic…”
What history? You mean, RECENT history that proved that Saddam was no threat to anyone?
Why not consider that Hussein could not even defeat Iran in an eight year war WITH WMD that we supplied to him?
You mean like THAT history?
Dumbass.
If the argument is that we invaded Iraq based on intelligence from Clinton’s administration, then the argument that Clinton wasnt interested in terrorism made by those same folks is BOGUS!!
Cant have it both ways…
Gee, the Saudi’s blew up WTC on 9/11 — Lets mount an invasion of Canada… Same difference…
By the way, McCreepy, about seventy percent of the American population thinks that you are full of shit.
Need a kleenex Clarkie?
Maybe you can write the GORACLE with a sympathy, my heart is broken letter?
Perhaps you can cry on the shoulder of Hillary?
Go ahead Clarkie, have a good cry.
I was in a poll Clarkie?
Or did you just make that up?
You shouldn’t fib, especially with those tears streaming down your face.
GMC — I agree with you on the McCain birth issue… Assuming, of course he was born in a base hospital… or on board a U S Ship…
IF he was born in a Panamanian Hospital Facility, but NOT an American facility… THEN, like several cousins of mine, he had to make a decision at age 18 to be a US, or a Panamanian Citizen… Since he too joined the military, it can be assumed what decision he would have made at age 18…
I think it is a moot point… just somebody trying to start a little fire in the corner…
Clark — Re: your 6:33 p.m. post… That is absolutely Spot On!!
The only people who beleive there were WMD in Iraq, are Dick Cheney and his band of mental midgets… All of them NUTS!!
“Or did you just make that up?”
Seventy percent of the American population is now against the Bush War of Choice in Iraq.
And I could not help but notice that you chose to ignore all the FACTS I laid out.
You must be just willfully IGNORANT.
No Clark… Their minds are made up… There is no confusing them with FACTS… They are like those who believe the Universe was made only 6 – 10,000 years ago… They have made a CHOICE to believe what they know is not true, in order to give the illusion of true faith and patriotism…
In addition, it gives them what they believe they need more than anything… ATTENTION!!!
The crazy folks can get ATTENTION if they espouse a belief in that which has been proven false, and if they yell about it loudly enough!!
This mindset is becoming nearly a form of psychosis
Who are the 70 percent?
Where did they poll?
They haven’t asked me or anyone in my family.
They haven’t asked anyone in the Church I attend.
They haven’t asked anyone of the relatives I have in other states.
If you went out to 70 percent of the American population and ask them if they were asked this particular poll question, I bet none of them were.
Perhaps they should stop doing polls in the fringes around Liberal population centers and ask the people who really make up America.
Live by the poll, die by the poll
Take that poll and cash it in for a meal.
Sleep with it like a Teddy bear.
Use the numbers to buy a lottery ticket.
You didn’t lay out any facts WSClark, you laid out an emetic driven driveling goo of Liberal spew trying to re-invent history.
Persecutor
Accuser
Victim
The liberal battle plan, oops they don’t do battle, I meant to say the liberal ‘feel good’ tactic to discourse.
Regular posted February 28, 2008 at 5:20 pm
“So El Nino and La Nina are caused by man made co2?”
Maybe we should take the BDP title from fleettwood, and award it to JimmyMac?
You didn’t answer the question did you cosmos?
Perhaps we should award the “Blog led by the nose” award to cosmos.
Led by nose
LBN poster cosmos
Regular notes >>>>
“…ask the people who really make up America.”
OK… The overwhelming majority of the population of the United States lives within 50 miles of one of the Coast lines… Atlantic, Gulf, Pacific, Great Lakes…
Regular… Do YOU or your FAMILY or your CHURCH members live within 50 miles of any of the Coast Lines??
{Reference – US Census}
March 7, 2003 | New York, USA
Statement to the United Nations Security Council
‘The Status of Nuclear Inspections in Iraq: An Update‘
http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/Statements/2003/ebsp2003n006.shtml
The invasion of Iraq began on March 20, 2003.
McCreepy once again proves that he is willfully ignorant……………………
He does it on a daily basis.
Sucks to be him.
Yeah Chas, I have relatives in L.A., Florida, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, etc. etc. all within the 50 mile radius of an ocean and large population centers.
The fact is, polls are skewed. Polls are rarely conducted in the Heartland of America.
Perhaps this a lesson that the Libs haven’t learned when they ignored it in the 2000 and 2004 elections.
Perhaps the GORACLE should have polled Tennessee before he ran for the office of President and then lost his home state?
(chortles)
Notice the arm flailing becomes more intense folks as they get called on their spew tactics.
Persecutor
Accuser
Victim
So predictable…
Gee, James, you just got family EVERYWHERE, dont ya old boy?? Doesnt matter what issue is raised, YOU have an answer for it… What about California, And Oregon, and Washington, and Texas, and Louisiana, and Virginia, and MD, and Deleware, and New York, and Jersey, and Connecticut, and Mass, and all the others??? Got relatives there??? And Illinois, and WI, and Ohio, and PA?? Got relatives there too???
The HUGE majority of our population is not out here in the middle of the Country… NOT inland, but within 50 miles of a Coastline…. THAT is where polls will be taken… where the people LIVE….
Regular, when the polls show how poorly Americans think CONGRESS is performing, you dont seem to argue that… Did they call you or your family or your church for those polls???
But when the polls show something you dont like, well, the polls are BAD…. and they dont really say what Americans believe…
Do you know how BOGUS that is??? Really???
Where is this poll that shows 70% against Iraq?
You mean the Congress that keeps funding the war Chas?
Perhaps the Congressman and Congresswomen aren’t part of that 70 percent polled either? :)
Delaware Chas? Yeah, that’s where I’d go to poll a huge population center.
:roll:
Since when is L.A. not in California?
I don’t really care about what polls say about Congress.
When people get to Congress, they have to deal with realities, not live in “La La” land like Leftist Liberals do.
The Dems dont have enough votes to override the republicans in Congress… You know that, but you love to use it against the Democrats… And if they DID vote to defund the war, you would scream that they are voting to surrender… No matter which way it goes, you claim to WIN… Because for your side, WINNING is all that matters… never mind the fact that our great great grandchildren will PAY for Bush’s Fiasco in Iraq… YOU all just want to WIN… But none of you… not one Reich Wingnut has YET to define what WINNING in Iraq means…
You want to try for that one??? Maybe???
Yes Chas, winning a war is a bad thing, can’t be having that. Let’s go home as losers with our tails tucked between our legs.
Where were the 70 percent polled on last election day? Couldn’t they vote 70 percent representation to Congress?
Eh?
What’s that?
Can’t hear you…
Winning in Iraq?
I dunno Chas, why don’t you ask the children playing behind the U.S. soldiers.
What’s winning to them? Safety and the freedom to play and behave like normal children?
Really Chas, I’m beginning to think you and Leftist Libs are really racists, because you don’t want the brown-skinned Arabic people in Iraq to succeed with their new country.
You’re hoping for failure, because those brown-skinned Arabs are not worth saving or helping.
Yeah, I said it – you and your buddies are racist driven hate mongers.
Hmmm looks like James is primed for a meltdown.
I wanta play!
“The Dems dont have enough votes to override the republicans in Congress… ”
What? How about we reword that.
The Republicans do not have enough votes to pass anything in Congress without the help of the Democrats.
Yeah JR, you really know how to analyze.
I’m melting down…
Or is it, I’m kicking the toothless grins off the Leftist Liberals cheese eating surrender monkey faces? :)
well you could ask my kid about Iraq James
He wants nothing to do with it or the military!
JR, cool – may your kid live in peace.
There will be others to protect him.
Clearly you realize the occupation is going to be ending.
Unless by some MIRACLE or theft, John McCain is elected.
And this bothers you. The end of the occupation.
Okay, we are all too serious lately.
Let’s travel back to the 1960s.
Enjoy this presentation, it’s very well done. :)
http://moreoldfortyfives.com/TakeMeBackToTheSixties.htm
Just as normal…. Still cant define what WINNING means in Iraq… Bush literally embarassed me, and the nation, when he said a few years ago, “Bring It On!” like he was in the middle of a championship football game or some such thing… He acts like it is some kind of athletic competition… And he sends in troops like they are Bench players… How absurd!!
And once again… James… Withdrawal of troops is NOT Surrender… doesnt even come close to the definition of Surrender…
I’m not sure I want to go back to the 60’s tonight… maybe tomorrow… My EX just died this morning… Dont know if I want to handle the 60’s just yet… :-(
“…doesnt even come close to the definition of Surrender…”
What is the definition of Surrender to you?
Sorry to hear that Chas. You need to sit back and take it easy tonight.
Prepare your memories and do some introspection.
God bless her soul Chas and yours as well.
Good grief, Chas, sorry to hear that. Man.
Wow.
Take care, ok?
Sorry to hear that Chas. I lost an ex last year. Kind of hard to describe how one feels. Not easy.
My prayers are with ya bud, hang in there.
Hank
Before the age of me having a cell phone, I had AT&T. During this time, we had a big emergency, and ended up making a lot of phone calls…totaling over 200 in a month. Mind you, nearly all calls I make are long distance anyway because of where I live. They shut our phone off in the middle of this not because we were late, but because they felt we had made too many phone calls. There were a lot of other things that happened, like getting sick of the every day phone calls for offers, but that was the last straw.
We shut off our phone after that and got cell phones.
Fast forward a number of years, and I decide to try to assist someone in getting a computer hooked up. I called AT&T, found out their not so fabulous high speed internet was going to cost nearly as much as cable, I tried to tell them no thanks, but they convinced me they’d give us a coupon for a free modem. They told me the coupon would come in 6 months. I said no, she said that she’d hold off on the modem charges and expedite the coupon so that it would be here before the charges came, and then we could redeem the coupon. I told her flat out that we would not be paying for that modem, and if we ended up paying it, we’d cancel service.
So guess what happened? Charges came and no coupon came.
During this, I’ve made 3 calls to At&t assuring us that the coupon would be here. And everytime, some high pressure sales to sell me something else, won’t let you hang up the phone till you finally have to just hang up.
So tomorrow I’m going to call them and cancel services again. We’ll switch him to cable. Why does this company continue to lose customers by the boatloads, and then can’t figure out why people won’t come back?
_________________
“I’m melting down…”
I guess this means that you are going to respond to the FACTS as I noted, McCreepy.
If my X died I think I’d cry for joy.
But I am sorry for you loss Chas.
News from our statehouse:
HEALTH CARE REFORM SEEMS STALLED
Two major parts of state health care reform appear to be in serious jeopardy and other proposals seem to be stalled. A proposed statewide smoking ban was bottled up in committee, and a 50-cent increase in the cigarette tax appears headed to the legislative bone yard. The two measures were promoted by the Kansas Health Policy Authority as key components of a package of 21 reform proposals. Gov. Sebelius said that the cigarette tax and the smoking ban would do more for health care costs in the future than any other two measures that we could pass, and those seem to be right now on life support at best. Senate Majority Leader Derek Schmidt, R-Independence, agreed. “I think the cigarette tax is (dead). The smoking ban is on life support and fading fast,”
Schmidt said.
The proposed tax increase would raise the state cigarette tax from
79 cents per pack to $1.29 per pack. Health officials have argued that the increase would help offset the damage caused by cigarette smoking in Kansas — 4,000 deaths and $930 million in health care costs each year.
The tax increase also would produce a stream of revenue for future expansion of health coverage.
The proposed smoking ban is having trouble getting out of committee with strong opposition coming from business owners across the state.
That bill would require a vote Nov. 4 in every county to determine whether to ban indoor smoking in restaurants and some other public places. Bars, casinos and tobacco shops would be exempt.
More news from Topeka:
IMMIGRATION LEGISLATION
Testimony on immigration bills revealed to legislators that illegal immigrants fill between 2% and 4% of the jobs in Kansas, and some counties suffer from a labor shortage, state officials said Tuesday.
Many of those are jobs that American workers do not want, several business owners who rely on seasonal workers testified later in the day before the House Committee on Federal and State Affairs. Business owners urged legislators to push Congress to authorize more work visas so they could run their businesses and comply with the employment and immigration laws.
“No one wants to mow grass on a seasonal basis,” said Reg Robertson, who owns Custom Lawn and Landscape in Olathe. He said he struggles annually to fill 15 seasonal positions. This year, Robertson said he advertised in a newspaper and on the Kansas unemployment database and did not receive a single American applicant. Opponents of four House bills that crack down on immigration packed the committee room on the second day of testimony.
On the other hand, on Monday, legislators heard from supporters of the bills, including a Shawnee businessman who said his masonry company closed because it was unable to compete against contractors who used underpaid illegal workers.
The state Labor Department usually does not compile how many jobs illegal immigrants fill. It tried to develop a reliable estimate, though, because that question is frequently being asked these days, Department Secretary Jim Garner said. The labor estimate given to the Senate Committee on Federal and State Affairs on Tuesday was based on national averages and a study by the Pew Hispanic Center that estimates between 40,000 and 70,000 illegal immigrants live in Kansas. Rae Anne Davis, deputy secretary for the state Commerce Department’s workforce services division, told Senators that Kansas has a 4% unemployment rate, which is generally considered full employment. About one-quarter of the state, mostly western counties, have 3% unemployment and face a labor shortage for many types of jobs.
Conferees urged lawmakers to find a legal way to fill vacant positions with immigrants. Employers looking for seasonal workers can apply for what is called an H-2B visa, but there are too few visas available, they said. “I am very concerned about next year, when I expect to have great difficulty getting legal workers in a highly competitive visa environment,” said Bill Gordon, owner of Signature Landscape in Olathe.
Paul Kane, executive vice president of the Home Builders Association of Greater Tulsa, warned of unintended consequences. Oklahoma last year enacted strict illegal immigration rules. Since then, about 80% of home builders in the area have reported a loss of work force, he said, adding that many of those who left were legal immigrants who might have family members in the country illegally. Cities also cited concerns with requiring law enforcement to question people about their citizenship status. “Inevitably, it is going to end up with a discrimination lawsuit,” said Sandy Jacquot, director of law/general counsel for the League of Kansas Municipalities. Others questioned whether some of the problems the measures aim to solve — such as illegal immigrants voting or collecting public welfare — were really problems at all.
In the House, the four bills under consideration are HB 2370, 2680,
2836 and 2921. They focus on various aspects of illegal immigration, including use of E-Verify, making it illegal to rent to illegal immigrants and requiring law enforcement to ask everyone detained for a possible law violation about their citizenship or immigration status.
Rep. Arlen Siegfreid, R-Olathe, who chairs the House committee, said he planned to have lawmakers debate the bills and then probably combine them.
The Senate starts its own immigration hearings today in its Federal and State Affairs Committee with testimony from supporters of SB 458.
That bill would require businesses to use the federal E-Verify system to make sure new employees can work in the country.
Thanks all for your kind words…
Who should appoint judges?
SELECTION OF JUDGES
For half a century, Kansas Supreme Court justices have been picked by the governor from a list submitted by a nominating commission made up of lawyers chosen by a vote of the legal community and lay persons chosen by the Governor from each congressional district. When Kansas became a state, the constitution created a Supreme Court consisting of one chief justice and two associate justices elected from the state at large for six-year terms. Later, the court was expanded to its present seven members and a court of appeals was created to help handle the appellate cases.
In 1958, the people of Kansas passed a constitutional amendment to change the selection of justices from a partisan election to an appointment process. This change followed a political fast one that left Kansans very upset. Then Governor resigned after losing the gubernatorial primary and arranged for his immediate successor, the Lt.
Governor, to appoint him to the Supreme Court and for the Chief Justice of the court to retire. The infamous Triple Play of 1957 has been all but forgotten. Chief Justice William Smith resigned, Gov. Fred Hall resigned, and Lt. Gov. John McCuish replaced Hall — and within an hour appointed Hall to the court. All this occurred a few days before George Docking became governor.
Under the plan adopted in 1958 and still in existence today, there is an initial screening of candidates by the Supreme Court Nominating Commission. The commission nominates three persons for appointment by the governor. The governor makes the appointment and that justice stands for retention elections every six years. The Court of Appeals judges and about half of our district judges are selected the same way. Kansas uses two methods to choose its judges, either by merit selection with retention vote or by partisan elections. All 20 appellate justices and judges and 128 trial court judges in 17 judicial districts are chosen by merit selection. There are 115 trial court judges in the 14 judicial districts where judicial candidates run in political elections.
Now, Rep. Lance Kinzer wants to change the selection process for the nominating commission for the Court of Appeals and add Senate confirmation. This can be done by statute. Change of selection of the Supreme Court would require a constitutional amendment. A proposed constitutional amendment requires a two-thirds vote of the Legislature plus majority approval by voters. The Olathe Republican told the House Federal and State Affairs Committee last Thursday that attorneys hold too much sway with the current selection process.
Opponents of the Kinzer plan said the current system has worked since 1958 to keep partisan politics from the process. At issue is what’s called “merit selection,” where a nine-member Supreme Court Nominating Commission submits three nominees for a seat on the Supreme Court or Court of Appeals and the governor selects one from the list.
Kansas is among 22 states using merit selection, which started in Missouri in 1940. Of those, six require Senate confirmation, two mandate House and Senate approval and one calls for approval by an advisory council to the governor, according to the American Judicature Society.
Kinzer’s proposal takes selection of the nominating commission out of the hands of the state lawyers and the Governor and instead would have them all named by politicians: three named each by the governor, Senate president and House speaker, including at least one lawyer in each case. That would make all members of the commission beholding to a political sponsor. He also wants to take away the requirement that the governor pick from a list of nominees from the nominating commission and then require Senate confirmation for both Supreme Court justices and Court of Appeals judges.
Currently, the governor must chose from the nominees screened and selected by the nominating commission. Applicants are interviewed by the nominating commission, and then the finalist/nominees are interviewed by the governor and his/her staff. If the governor doesn’t make a selection within 60 days, the Supreme Court chief justice picks one of the nominees.
Even if Kinzer can muster the required 84 votes in the House, which is doubtful; his plan probably cannot pass the Senate, where it fell short of the two-thirds majority two years ago. At that time, many legislators were angry because the Supreme Court had upheld a district court decision on school finance. “I don’t expect the outcome to change. It’s not likely to get much traction this session,” said Senate Majority Leader Derek Schmidt. “We had that fight and lost.”
Kinzer, an attorney, does not like the commission having five lawyer and four non-lawyer members. He said his proposal would mean more diversity among commission members. “You get a broader group of life experiences if you take it away from the attorneys,” he said. “Maybe they don’t talk about politics, but they share a common outlook on life.”
Kinzer said federal judges undergo Senate confirmation, but opponents of his plan, including retired Justice Fred N. Six, noted federal judges are appointed for life. He said Kansas has a judicial system that’s independent and accountable to voters through periodic retention votes and called Kinzer’s proposal “a paper solution chasing a non-existing problem.”
Meanwhile, legislation has been passed by the Legislature that would help the public when appellate judges are up for retention. The Kansas Commission on Judicial Performance was created in 2006 by legislation inform the public about our judges and to improve the performance of individual judges and the judiciary as a whole. The Commission’s evaluations of all of the state court trial and appellate judges will be
provided to the judges and justices for self-improvement. In addition,
for judges and justices who are subject to retention elections, the Commission’s evaluations will be disseminated to the public to help voters make informed decisions about whether to continue those judges and justices in office.
The requirements for membership on the Commission on Judicial Performance? Members are appointed by the Judicial Council and are required to be persons of outstanding competence and reputation. Six of the Commission members are chosen from non-lawyers and six Commission members and the Chair are chosen from lawyers or judges. The statutes also require that at least two Commission members reside in each congressional district. None of its members are appointed by the Courts and no sitting judges or justices may serve on the Commission.
The Commission is required to publicly recommend that judges subject to retention elections either “be retained” or “not be retained.” To make this decision the Commission surveys persons who have appeared before or had professional contact with a judge or justice. That includes jurors, lawyers, witnesses, litigants, court workers, etc. The Commission has adopted performance standards upon which survey questions are based and has designed confidential surveys that ask those surveyed to evaluate the judge or justice on his or her ability, integrity, impartiality, communication skills, professionalism, temperament, and administrative capacity. In addition, the Commission is required to consider the judge’s or justice’s own self-evaluation. The Commission may also rely on any other information which assists in the evaluation of the judge or justice.
Because a key part of the Commission’s evaluation of judges and justices is the survey of persons who have appeared before or had professional contact with the judge or justice, information about the survey process may be of interest. As background, there are 263 judges and justices in Kansas. These 263 judges and justices can broadly be divided into two categories, appellate judges, of which there are 20, and trial court judges, of which there are 243. Appellate judges and justices can further be subdivided into two more groups, Supreme Court justices and Court of Appeals judges. Trial court judges can also be subdivided into two groups, district judges and district magistrate judges.
Supreme Court justices serve six-year terms and Court of Appeals judges serve four-year terms. The Commission has decided that, once the judicial performance program is fully implemented, surveys about all judges and justices will be conducted quarterly, with the quarterly results combined and used to generate final survey reports and midterm reports. Ideally, the number of completed questionnaires for each judge would be 400 collected over a four-year period. Twenty-five would be collected each quarter and a moving average would be maintained so that as 25 new surveys are added each quarter, the 25 oldest are deleted.
For trial judges, it would be ideal if half the sample were attorneys and half non-attorneys. For Supreme Court Justices the rolling average will be maintained over six years, the length of their terms.
Because of time and budget constraints, the target sample size for the first report will be reduced to 200. Not until after 2010 will the sample sizes be 400. Please note the use of the term “target sample size.” The sample size is a target because for many judges in sparsely populated counties or judicial districts it may not be possible to obtain a cumulative sample of 400 respondents even after attempting to survey everyone (not just a sample) who has observed the judge’s performance. In addition, a substantial portion of some judges’
dockets may be cases which are currently considered confidential and the names and addresses of those persons will not be available. Where the number of potential respondents is large enough, a random sample will be surveyed.
Does stalking include trolls?
STALKING LAW CHANGED
HB 2850 was up for debate today. The bill is a response to law enforcement officials testifying before the House Judiciary Committee that they are frustrated with the current stalking law. They believe the changes to the stalking law would help change that by allowing law enforcement and prosecutors to pursue a stalking case if a “reasonable”
person interprets actions as being threatening to them or their family.
A seemingly innocent gesture — a love note left on a door or a romantic song left on an answering machine — can terrorize a stalking victim under some circumstances and the stalker intends to create fear. Right now, police can do little to stop it.
Prosecuting attorneys and victims’ rights advocates testified that the words “credible threat” in the current law hamper efforts to stop stalkers. When applied to stalking, the term “credible threat”
generally has been defined as a threat made with the intent and apparent ability to carry out the threat, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. Courts have required that there must be a threat that would be recognized by a”‘reasonable person”. However, conferees pointed out how a love note that read, “I’ll love you till I die” written in blood by a former abuser or a romantic song that was played during a rape could be threatening to the victim, even though another person would not recognize it as a threat. Law enforcement and prosecutors told the committee that proving a credible threat often is an “insurmountable hurdle,” and that is the reason that few stalking offenders are charged with the crime.
An example presented in committee was the case of Jodi Sanderholm, 19, who was kidnapped, raped and murdered in January 2007. Stalking was at the root of that case, according to authorities, because the perpetrator had been stalking other women in town and other members of
Jodi’s dance team. 10 women testified at a hearing that Sonderholm’s
killer had harassed, abducted and stalked girls and women around Ark City since 2001.
Currently, a stalking conviction is a felony. The proposal would change the law to delineate three levels of the crime. A first-time conviction would be a Class A misdemeanor. Second and third convictions would be felonies with increasing levels of severity.
Kelley said.
In addition to living in fear, stalking victims also have to document what is going on while they are being stalked. Prosecutors need documentation of stalking behavior in order to bring the cases.
Stalkers aren’t awkward people lacking social skills, officials cautioned. Often they are cunning, manipulative and “hide behind a cloak of deniability.” Stalkers often know the current law and make sure their actions fall outside the latitude provided for proving a credible threat, said Cowley County District Attorney Chris Smith, speaking for the Kansas County & District Attorneys Association.
Day 46 from the Statehouse:
FEDERAL ECONOMIC STIMULUS PACKAGE TO AFFECT KANSAS REVENUE
Businesses looking to expand will get a bigger deduction on their federal income tax return because of a provision in the economic stimulus package approved this month by Congress. That is the same federal legislation that provides a $600 check to individual taxpayers later this year. Although it represents extra money for individual taxpayers, the stimulus legislation will mean an estimated $87 million loss in state income tax revenue this year and next from businesses.
A bill has been introduced that would “decouple” part of the state’s income tax code from provisions of the new federal law and allow the state to keep $84 million in the state treasury. That bill to eliminate a potential$84 million in state tax breaks for Kansas businesses in addition to the federal tax breaks they will receive is drawing strong opposition from House Republican leaders.
“We are not going to decouple from the federal tax policy,” House Majority Leader Ray Merrick, R-Stilwell, said during a legislative breakfast in Overland Park over the weekend. Merrick said the entire GOP House leadership opposes the bill.
Budget experts said the lost revenue may be offset somewhat by an estimated $25.6 million in new sales tax revenue from the money individual taxpayers will receive. That assumes they will spend half of the money on items that will yield sales tax revenue. Lost revenue from one tax source often results in a shift of the tax burden to other taxpayers.
Opponents of decoupling pointed out that, in 2010, the state will receive a corporate income tax bump of $21.9 million when the one-year stimulus package ends.
By US law, if you are born to US citizens, anywhere in the world, you are a natural born citizen of the US.
Correct. I have a cousin who was born in Lebanon when his father, a minister, was teaching at the American University in Beirut. As they tried to leave the country as fighting and bombing broke out, they were told by the Lebanese gov’t that the son could not leave, because he was a Lebanese citizen. They said no way, he was American. Eventually, the Lebanonese gov’t admitted the error and let them go.
I’m sorry Chas, My thoughts are with you.
The congress of Kansas needs not be in charge of EVERY step of government. Don’t change the way we elect our judges, it works out just fine the way it is.
I’m sorry if Lance Kinzer is having a tantrum that he can’t buy off the judges yet.
Also today:
HB 2605, the linear transition for high density at risk funding, failed to pass on final action … 63 to 62. See yesterday’s open thread for a description of the bill. School financing.
And one final note from today before I go to bed.
Not sure anyone here cares about this issue, but thought I’d pass it along. Long day. Longer tomorrow:
SENATE PASSES OVERHAUL OF TOURISM
The Senate today passed SB 501 which would transfer the state Division of Travel and Tourism to an independent agency. The bill creates the Kansas Tourism Corporation and transfers the division and its employees from the Department of Commerce. The Senate approved it 40-0. It now comes to the House. The corporation would have a 13-member board, with nine members named by the governor and legislative leaders. The Travel Industry Association of Kansas would appoint the other four.
I can see that Chas is all torn up over his Ex dying so he makes her a topic on this blog.
Poor Chas. You think he’d be mourning our consoling ex-family or something like that.
What do you expect from a phony preacher?
Damned sub-human Trolls!!
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Amway:
Links save space, ya know?
“Links save space, ya know?”
Saves on scroll over time, too.
“Obama’s political weakness is that he is too liberal, not that he is too eloquent.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/28/AR2008022803229.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
As usual, right on target, Clark. Thank you, sir.
Regular–
Just about the time I feel like you’re just the toothless old guy that stands on the porch and yells at kids to get out of his yard, you use somebody’s deathly ill wife to harass them with.
You have no shame.
You really ought to watch it. You never know who’s reading these Blogs and what they’ll do.
Remember that neurotic society mom who pretended to be a hunky high-school heart-throb to get back at her teenage daughter’s ostrasized friend.
And then the friend committed suicide.
Yeah, forget about criminal charges. That family is getting it every which way from Sunday.
Here’s a mapquest location of their house on “Rotten Neighbor.com”
http://www.rottenneighbor.com/story.php?page=2&id=55926
How’d you like to be them, Reggie?
So as the press in this state on the Mason Dixon line protects the woman who caused the little girl to hang herself, Internet bloggers have taken on Megan’s cause, with an outburst of what many are calling “virtual vigilantism.”
Now the name and address of Lori Drew and her family on Waterford Crystal Drive in St. Charles is out, even directions are being published, and The Los Angeles Times reports that dozens of concerned people have apparently been calling local businesses that work with the Drew family’s company, an advertising print shop.
The bloggers have exposed more than just the Drews’ home address; they have included phone numbers, email addresses and photographs that have also been posted on blogs such as RottenNeighbor.com and hitsusa.com.
Some sources report that people are driving through the once tranquil upscale neighborhood at night, screaming, “Murderer” at the residents of the house. The Drews, have now installed security cameras on the roof of their house.
Now mounting pressure has police cars patrolling Waterford Crystal Drive and prosecutors say they are trying to reopen the case.
http://salem-news.com/articles/november292007/myspace-suicide_112907.php
By Presidential Order, if Bush decides to go to war with Iran before November elections, he can postpone elections, and retain power beyond his present term indefinitely… Some are saying that Bush is planning to do this…
Maybe more fear tactics?? Or else, maybe why Bush isnt acting like a lame duck President??
“By Presidential Order, if Bush decides to go to war with Iran before November elections, he can postpone elections, and retain power beyond his present term indefinitely… ”
Bullshit, Chas. Let’s see the order, or the relevant statute. Could that be NSD-51? Been through it already; it says no such thing.
You’ll have to come up with some authority for this one; you can’t, of course. This is the usual conspiracy theory / “9/11 was an inside job” / shooter on the grassy knoll balony.
Your statement is pure bullshit.
What the heck are you talking about Capn?
If you’re talking about Chas and the passing of his ex-wife, I made my comment at 8:15pm, then haven’t contributed to the thread since.
Your persistent paranoia on who a poster is nauseatingly predictable and tiresome. I did not post any thing passed 8:15pm
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CapnAmerica
Posted February 29, 2008 at 2:51 am | Permalink
Here’s a mapquest location of their house on “Rotten Neighbor.com”
http://www.rottenneighbor.com/story.php?page=2&id=55926
How’d you like to be them, Reggie?
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Looks like yet another threat from CapnAmerica, Mr. Phillip Brownlee.
How much longer are you going to allow this stalker to plague the WE Blog?
It’s not official Mr. Brownlee, the new stalking law is in place.
Or would you rather see the Capn standing before a judge?
not official = now official
“By Presidential Order, if Bush decides to go to war with Iran before November elections,…”
The Libs threw this same story out before the 2004 elections. I wonder how long until they say McCain will want to re-instate a draft? (Another lie put out in 2004).
GMC70
Posted February 29, 2008 at 8:34 am | Permalink
“By Presidential Order, if Bush decides to go to war with Iran before November elections, he can postpone elections, and retain power beyond his present term indefinitely… ”
Bullshit, Chas. Let’s see the order, or the relevant statute. Could that be NSD-51? Been through it already; it says no such thing.
You’ll have to come up with some authority for this one; you can’t, of course. This is the usual conspiracy theory / “9/11 was an inside job” / shooter on the grassy knoll balony.
Your statement is pure bullshit.
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Agreed.
SSDD
Steven Davis
Posted February 28, 2008 at 11:59 pm | Permalink
Amway:
Links save space, ya know?
Steven I have no link. These are from notes.
Some of the issues I have seen threads on, and others are things I have seen posters post about.
So thought I’d pass it on as quickly as possible. Some of it isn’t even in the newspaper yet, as it happened that day during the session.
GMC — Link I Saw is on World Net Daily — And on Link to Steven Quayle website on Coast to Coast AM http://www.coasttocoastam.com
BTW, GMC — As I read that order, it would apply to ANY President — Repub OR Dem… and just as scary either way…
Chas –
You gotta be kidding. WorldNetDaily? It makes the Enquirer look respectable.
And CoasttoCoast.com. Have you actually looked at that link. stories about “Planet X,” increasing UFO reports, and drawing of aliens.
Please!!!!!!!!!!!
No, Chas, if you wanna toss that BS out, you better come with a cite to the order you say exists, or a statute which does same. Otherwise, it’s just deeper bullshit.
And as Max notes, it’s not the first time these kind of BS scare stories have been circulated by the left. Yawn. As Max put it, SSDD.
1. JM-Republican-Regular writes–
Your persistent paranoia on who a poster is nauseatingly predictable and tiresome. I did not post any thing passed 8:15pm
And we should believe that because why? . . . you never lie?
2. Looks like yet another threat from CapnAmerica, Mr. Phillip Brownlee.
Actually, no, it was not a threat but a warning that there are readers out there–NOT ME–who do things like that. That’s what I get for trying to help you, I guess.
And that’s what you get for constantly lying your ass off, Reggie.
You get blamed whether you deserve it or not and you have no way of defending yourself, because “your word of honor” means absolutely less than nothing.
GMC–
WorldNetDaily is biased and not particularly credible, true.
But it’s as right-wing as Rush Limbaugh.
CapnAmerica,
This is a blog.
Dragging a person’s private life and data into is not only abusive, it borders on criminal stalking and harassment.
If you can’t deal with just blogging, then I suggest you go do something else.
You want to intimidate other posters who disagree with you by any means necessary.
Would you want everyone to know who you are, where you live, your real email address, your wife and daughters information? You want that published on the Web?
I suggest you cease and desist with your harassment or suffer the consequences.
Booga booga!
All fear the wrath of the mighty seskwetch!
Well, thank you, James.
I do indeed appreciate your heartfelt concern, and I will consider your wise words in the same spirit by which they were written.
GMC — Did not Bush issue an Executive Order allowing him to suspend the Constitution in the event of a national disaster, by HIS definition alone, without vote of Congress???
THAT would cover an invasion of Iran, would it not?? Now, if no such order exists, then I stand corrected… BUT… I remember when that order was issued… I think around last MAY??? or JUNE??
And you mean you dont believe in UFO’s??? Not even after this recent thing here in Texas???
Mercy!!
“GMC — Did not Bush issue an Executive Order allowing him to suspend the Constitution in the event of a national disaster, by HIS definition alone, without vote of Congress???”
I’ll keep this simple enough for even you, Chas: NO, he did not. If you can cite otherwise, by all means, go for it. You made the charge; your burden is to prove it.
You buddy MH tried that one out a while back, and got his ass handed to him. The charge is pure bogus.
And Capn – the only “wing” WorldNetDaily is on is the profit one. They’re simply nuts. Period. And you’d probably know more about Limbaugh than I; I couldn’t even tell you when or what station he’s on. JR, of course, is the Limbaugh “monitor.” And there’s that image, again; JR, red-faced, ranting at the radio. Always good for a chuckle.
OK GMC — Here is your Link >>>>
http://www.concordbridge.net/NSPD-51.htm
“When might Bush declare a national emergency under NSPD-51? My own guess would be Spring 2008, after Bush is “forced” to attack Iran, perhaps with nuclear weapons, and Iran then fails to cooperate, attacking US ships in the Gulf and Mediterranean instead of accepting our offers of assistance. Even if Iran denied Bush his basic objective by refusing to be goaded into reacting beyond its own borders, the resulting global economic chaos and spontaneous popular reactions beyond Iran could compel Bush to invoke NSPD-51, quite apart from whatever our new enemy might undertake. On the other hand, under NSPD-51 any provocation of Bush could lead to him creating a pretext for declaring a national emergency. For example, Ralph Nader quotes Massachusetts Rep. John W. Olver (D), who has a PhD from MIT, when presented with the votes of 13 Town Meetings [real Town Meetings, not the media events staged for candidate performances] in Olver’s congressional district calling for impeachment of Cheney and Bush, Olver responded that he opposed any impeachment move against Bush because “the current autocratic executive [Bush] would attack Iran from the air, declare a national emergency, institute martial law, and call off the 2008 elections were the Democrats to initiate impeachment.” Or, perhaps we have a national emergency for as yet unknown reasons, maybe in the late summer when likely replacement administrations are judged by Bush/Cheney to be unacceptable; and then, as the national emergency begins to unravel, we attack Iran. The essential assessment is that we have reached a point where the possibilities are vast and unpredictable precisely because its all up to Bush; he is The Decider.”
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http://www.concordbridge.net/NSPD-51.htm
BTW, that link above is NOT from World Net Daily…. Now, you still gonna tell me Bush didnt issue such an order?? May, 2007
Chas, Chas, Chas – How ’bout citing to NSPD-51?
Why don’t you cite to it? Why? Because it doesn’t do what you, or William H. White, whoever he is, say it does. Cite to thoe order. Show me the authorization. You’ve cited a second-hand nut.
One More Link >>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_and_Homeland_Security_Presidential_Directive
And another > > > > >
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html
Have you ever heard of Rex-84? That’s what suspends the Constitution. And Under NSPD-51 Bush can and will enact Martial Law under any of his percieved “National Emergencies”. It allows him to therefore, suspend elections.
Here, smart guys. Rex-84.
Thanks Pleefer… I didnt think I was nearly as far off base as GMC seems to think I am!! LOL
Here’s that “kook” JFK giving a “kooky” speech.
My pleasure Chas. Some people enjoy being uninformed (it makes life a cakewalk).
Pleefer – You’ve cited YouTube!!! P-lease!!!!
Yes, Chas, you (and Pleefer) are that far off base. And, uh, Chas, wanna cite any specific language in NSPP-51 which authorizes what you say? Huh? You link the directive – just where is there any authorization for “suspending the constitution” or calling off elections? Good luck; you won’t find it; in fact, the directive calls for just the opposite. This is the left-wing equivalent of right-wing nuts’ fears of “black helicopters” etc. There are real issues to worry about; this isn’t one of them.
I’ve been through this with MH months ago; he had nothing. You’re 0-for-8 so far, and have provided, in way of substantiation, nothing. It’s more fear-mongering balony.
Pleefer – this has to do with 9/11 just how? You DO understand that JFK’s been dead for some 45 years? (or are you one of the “JFK survived” nuts?)
Cited You tube? The Oliver North questioning? Do you really believe that was fashioned together by some computer geek kid downstairs at his parents house?
How much do you think that computer geek paid all of those actors to dress up like North and the Congressmen?
And the JFK thing, is it a mimicked voice over?
Is has “to do” with 9-11 for the simple fact that he knew what the CIA was/is capable of. But if you want to inply that I’m saying he saw 9-11 coming and “warned” us about it…well that just shows your lack of firing synapsis.
I admit it, you caught me GMC truck guy. I staged all of those video’s as well as this one. I’m a loser.
SSDD
to be continued…
Pleef, Pleef, Pleef:
NSPD-51, the alleged horror of horrors, DIDN’T EXIST when North was tesifying. What Oliver North has to do with this alleged order by the Bush Administration is beyond me.
BTW – that video exposed, what exactly? Did you hear anything about a Rex-84? (BTW – if it existed, of which I’m skeptical, it was in, yup, 1984, some 24 years ago. Scary indeed. I’m running for the hills already (of course, I’m too late, the coup was in ‘84). Yea.
Same for the JFK piece, of course.
And double that for the local TV story about a guy who was manhandled at the jail.
OK, Pleef, what’s your point? That government is capable of doing bad stuff? Well, DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s the nature of government.
Relevancy to this alleged Bush order? None? Wow – Who’d a thunk it.
Here’s a thought. Actually read the order. You’ll find it requires the executive branch to – note this well, it’s scary – contingency plan(!) for a massive disaster. Planning!! Wow. We wouldn’t want any planning, now would we? And, even scarier, it expects the other branches of government to do likewise!!!
Good God. Get out the tin hat, Pleef. You don’t have one? Well, contact Chas, he seems to have plenty.
Ok, you win. But I will pose a rhetorical question for you:
Do you think that, IF it existed (Rex 84), it may have been a practice exercise for the implementation of martial law (if that even exists) for some future “event” that “required” quelling We The People and our dissent (not that we would ever have cause to have dissent)?
I’m through casting pearls at you.
I will leave you with this small interview with another idiot-tin-foiler, Asst Sec. of the Treasury to Reagan and former Wall Street Journal editor Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
No more will YOU hear about this “stupid” crap from me (to the sound of cheers from you Neo-Con, pro-murder, pro torture, “pro-life”, good followers of the Christ).
God help you.
This is quite telling, I think.
Pleef –
Assuming for the sake of argument it’s true, it means what, exactly? Bush is condemned for the sins of his grandfather?
Gosh, Pleef, did your ancestors own slaves? If so, are you automatically a racist?
This is desperation at its worst. BDS syndrome knows no bounds.
Craig? Just shows the tin-hat disease can strike anywhere. Good God – GOVERNMENT today, all branches, has taken on powers the founders never imagined. We abandoned any notion of limited government during the New Deal changes; Gov’t now routinely does things the founders would have been horrified if they thought gov’t did.
Let me guess – You’re a 9/11 “truther” too?
I note you leave by calling me one of “Neo-Con, pro-murder, pro torture, “pro-life”, good followers of the Christ.”
You know next to nothing about me. You have constructed a caricature of what you want me to be. It really speaks more about you than me, of course.
God help YOU, Pleef. I sleep just fine at night.