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Last post. seeya!
I realize that music reviews probably aren’t very common on this blog – what with all the Hillary-bashin’ and Democrat-dumpin’ and liberal-lashin’ sort of miscreancy goin’ on here – but what the heck.
The Songbird is in an altruistic mood this fine morning.
To all fellow music afficionados: You MUST buy Radiohead’s “In Rainbows” for your listening edification. It is simply stunning. Like all the best bands (from the Beatles, Stones, Romeo Void, The Police, etc.) – Radiohead has its own, singular sound.
The guitars are magnificent; the keyboards shimmering; the melodies transcendent; the vocals vibrant; and the listening is lyrical.
I just wanna thank that kind young man who recommended the CD to me at Starbucks last weekend. Because I needed it. This selfless young man has probably never had an abortion and/or been raped, so he probably doesn’t puke after “debating” with a “right-to-life” proponent who blames impregnated rape victims for their abortions – and exonerates the rapists.
As Kurt Cobain once said, “it’s hard to carry on with plankton like that in our atmosphere.”
But Radiohead is bringing me back to serenity. Thank you, Mr. Starbucks. (#$%^ you, Mr. “right-to-life” reprobate……)
If you dig Radiohead, you must check out Porcupine Tree as well.
It took Obama to have a ten state winning streak before the networks woke up to give him top billing.
Last night, as Hillary was making another screeching campaign speech live, two major networks cut from her live speech, to a shot of Obama taking the stage in front of a capacity filled crowd screaming for him.
I suppose Hillary continued screeching to her local audience, the networks were all his.
Obama supporters cannot let down now. Time to get the T e x a s, Ohio, and Penns folks to the polls.
If there is any hope of Hillary not stealing the regular delegates, and pressuring the supers to cross over and commit to her – it is only if Obama wins by an overwhelming majority!
TODAY’S NATIONAL DEBT
$9,266,884,010,548
Looks like the bush economy is moving toward stagflation territory.
Taxes paid today by Exxon-Mobile
$8,219,178.00
Case No. BC 304174
FIRST AMENDED COMPLAINT FOR
DAMAGES AND RESTITUTION, AMONG
OTHER RELIEF, ARISING FROM:
(1) FRAUD AND DECEIT;
(2) NEGLIGENT
MISREPRESENTATION;
(3) UNFAIR BUSINESS
PRACTICES;
(4) UNJUST ENRICHMENT;
and
(5) CIVIL CONSPIRACY; and
DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL
Hillary heads to court
Stupid blog.
http://www.hillcap.org/pp_complaint_022504_njw.pdf
Pleefer, how are you embedding links?
whoops, here is the left side of the complaint.
PETER F. PAUL,
Plaintiff,
v.
WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON,
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON,
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S.
SENATE COMMITTEE, INC., NEW
YORK SENATE 2000, DAVID ROSEN,
GARY SMITH, JAMES LEVIN, and
AARON TONKEN,
Defendants.
Exxon’s 2007 Tax Bill: $30 Billion
http://seekingalpha.com/article/63131-exxon-s-2007-tax-bill-30-billion
They made that much in one quarter. Must be nice to only have to contribute 3 months. income to taxes.
XOM is doing great!
1.6% dividend/five year ave 2.2%.
Up significantly since $69 bucks in a share in March of 2007.
52 week has basically followed the DOW’s fluctuations.
But with a 10.9% profit margin, a forward P/E of only 10.67, and a target at $100 a share, things are looking up!
Energy stock is held by many investment portfolio’s, to include company 401K’s and are available for DRIP!
It’s good for investors of all sizes, and good for America!
AGI for the bottom 50% 922 bil., so comparing the rebate of 150 bil., that’s a fairly significant prospective boost to the economy.
Considering what the oil companies are siphoning off of the economy, I’m not all that sure it’s good for the economy.
C’mon folks. Hillary goes to court today. If she loses, she and Billy go to jail. And no comments?
Sol, it’s hit or miss with this blog. Either it works, it is “being held for moderation” or it kicks me off for writing “Texas”. This blog kinda stinks.
Jail for them would be a nice respite from their arrogance to think they deserve to be in the White House
Taxes paid today by Exxon-Mobile
$8,219,178.00
And just how much of that is your money, taken at the pumps?
Gas at $3.09 this morning…a 20 cent jump.
So that would be good news RD? By our buying gasoline, not only are we contributing to XOM making a profit, but we are also helping finance our nations spending habits.
Good for you. Good for me.
Sol, this is a civil suit. No one is going to jail as the result thereof.
Is this the case that was dismissed against the Clintons earlier and is now on appeal from the dismissal? Just wondering.
Christian sex toys: Intimacy products for the married couple -
http://www.book22.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=Book22
I wonder if they work if you’re not married:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18975616
RD, the price of gas jumped as a result of a refinery fire in Texas and some other issues.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i5TtajgUpSm7KY5jf-lCJGHBB-tAD8UTKKDG0
RD, Regular’s comment and link does serve as an explanation. I’d wondered when we would feel the effects of the refinery fire.
VT,
You got that right. This is the civil side. My apologies. Peter Paul said that he had video of Hillary committing a felony. That made me think criminal – yada yada yada. My mistake.
VT…I don’t believe the fire excuse at all. Remember the flooding last spring in Kansas that took out a refinery? The excuse for the gas jump that time was that “almost all of our gas comes from there” or some such nonsense. If that were true, then the TX fire would have no impact. If it were not true, then it was clearly another empty excuse to jack up prices.
Steven, you gave me a laugh and jogged a long forgotten memory.
Way back in the 60s my uncle/aunt (not sure whose it was, actually) had a statue of St. Peter. All done up in carved walnut, it depicted a man in flowing robes, hands folded in prayer, long hair with a halo.
Then you turn it around, and yeah, it was St. Peter, the marital aid.
Taz, agreed that if it was only the fire, there might have been a smaller increase, if any. The link to the AP story that was posted contains a laundry list of other factors the result of which is oil prices increasing to over $100/bbl. The AP story notes that there is not one overriding reason, but a combination of various factors which has the oil price on the rise, and contains a prediction of gas at $3.50 to $3.60 per gallon later this year. Don’t forget the “speculator’s premium” in the price of oil, estimated by some in the recent past to be as much as $30/bbl. The falling dollar, the Nigerian rebel situation, and on and on, are all factors.
Do I like it? No, I don’t. It does illustrate, however, the dangers of having a cartel in control of the supply of a highly desired resource, and, IMO, the further effects of a dwindling number of vertically integrated companies in the market; one could almost say an oligopoly.
“then the TX fire would have no impact”
It is sometimes not the actual event which causes the price for a commodity to change. It is the “perception” that something will affect availability or supply. OPEC whispers about cutting production….
In short, the markets runs on fear or confidence.
The Phantom
Posted February 20, 2008 at 8:46 am | Permalink
They made that much in one quarter. Must be nice to only have to contribute 3 months. income to taxes.
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Does anybody here pay 25% of their income in Federal taxes alone?
$30 Billion in taxes paid isn’t enough for the Libs.
Sell ALL your stocks and bonds now, before the Libs take over! The Libs will ensure that greedy Corporations keep NONE of THEIR profits!
“Sol, this is a civil suit. No one is going to jail as the result thereof.”
Sol, I think being a crook only counts in criminal court.
It’s like all those lawsuits during the first Clinton era; all those women abused by Bill, whitewater,etc….
Ethical or moral behavior does not count.
“Does anybody here pay 25% of their income in Federal taxes alone?”
Max, and I think a 10% profit margin is reasonable too.
But it will be up to the new liberal controlled congress and executive branch to decide how much money a private corporation should make.
Then if Corporate profits are taken away, people will have no where to go to invest their savings for retirement. Other then the 3% US Savings Bonds.
No where else to put your 401k, IRA, and Pension money, not in America anyway.
Guess we can invest everything outside the US. And we will wonder why all of America’s jobs have moved overseas as the unemployment rate hits 25%.
Something different. In honor of Black History Month, and the excitement generated by this years presidential campaign there is a special place to celebrate right here in Kansas:
The town of Nicodemus, Kansas, a pioneer town which is the only remaining western community established by African Americans after the Civil War, and is now designated as a National Historic site.
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/OZ-Nicodemus.html
God Bless Kansas!
A little economics and tax lesson from Boortz.
“Over the past three years Exxon Mobile has paid an average of $27 billion a year in taxes to the Imperial Federal Government. This has amounted to about 41% of Exxon’s taxable income.
The last year for which complete numbers on who pays what taxes are available was 2004. In 2004 there were 130 million individual tax returns filed. If you take the bottom 50% of those tax returns – 65 million of them – and add up the total amount of taxes those households paid you come up with $27.4 billion. This means that one corporation, Exxon Mobile, pays as much in taxes to the federal government as do the bottom half of individual taxpayers. How’s that for paying your fair share.
There’s more. The Adjusted gross income for the bottom 50% of taxpayers comes out to about $922 billion. This means that these taxpayers are paying an effective tax rate of about 3% of their adjusted gross income. Exxon? Adjusted gross income of around $67.4 billion in 2006 … for an effective tax rate of 41%.
There’s the facts, my friends. If you’re able to absorb them you’ll see just how you’re being manipulated by the likes of Hillary Clinton and other politicians. If the American voters were truly educated they couldn’t get away with it for a minute.”
http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html
And that doesnt count the tax dollars the Feds take at the pump.
Also doesnt count all the payroll taxes they paid.
A follow up on Romney’s old co. Bain getting turned down on the 3 Com China deal. If he had become president he could probably have intervened.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080220/bs_nm/bain_dc_4
“Other then the 3% US Savings Bonds.”
You must be referring to the series EE bonds.
The I Bonds are presently returning a little better than that.
Series I : 4.28% Fixed : 1.20%
As the interest earned is free of local and state taxes, depending upon your tax bracket, the return is still something to consider. Of course, you can also purchase them for college costs (but not the kids names), and be free of the federal taxes too (but phases out at 90K+).
Your point still stands however, in that over 100 million Americans are invested in equities. Some of them just don’t know it. But their 401*’s, mutual funds, and other investment vehicles will have a portion invested in energy stocks.
Heckler, great post.
Also doesn’t count State and Local taxes paid, correct?
Heckler, good post. I got it and understand it. But you have to dumb it down for people sometimes.
State and local taxes too? And by payroll you include the company paying FICA and MEDICARE?
Regardless, I am afraid you will find, to some people, THEY STILL ARE NOT PAYING ENOUGH.
Heckler, the problem I have with using a “per centage of Adjusted Gross Income” analysis is that it ignores the difference between AGI and Taxable Income. Thus, the 3% of AGI figure that he uses ignores the % of Taxable Income, as defined by the Code, that is paid by these folks.
Yep, corporations pay payroll taxes, and get a deduction for the same in computing taxable income. Assuming that the income tax rate on Exxon is indeed 41% then the net Exxon is actually paying is 59 cents on the dollar.
Yup Amway, and I’m sure most Americans will be thrilled to invest all their savings at 4 to 5% return per year.
Nope. Even the Libs go for the highest returns available, which right now are overseas.
Goodbye American jobs!
Those GREEDY LIB INVESTORS are directly responsible for the GREEDY CORPORATIONS!
Why? Because the Lib Investors demand high rates of return on their investments. What’s a corporation to do? The corporations are being forced by their greedy investors to be – greedy!
Come on Max, all investors demand a high rate of return on their investments; political orientation has little to nothing to do with it.
No where else to put your 401k, IRA, and Pension money, not in America anyway
Who can afford those? Straight social security. I want to be able to eat long lenough to collect some of what I’ve paid in before I’m worked to death!
Social security–stinkin’ pyramid scam just like AmWay (not the blogger, what Paul Harvey advertises)
VT
Understood. The point is they pay a boatload of taxes. And they have a very positive effect on our economy. Look at all the folks working for them that earn a darn good living and pay lots of taxes themselves.
People who demonize them for their profits are either ignorant or using the ignorance of others to further a political agenda.
I’m happy about companies making profit.
It’s a good thing.
Now what about this?
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.55 billion per day since September 29, 2006!
I’m not asking to bankrupt corporations.
What I am asking for is fiscal responsibilty from our govt.
heckler, as a person who derives income from the oil industry (20th of the month? I should be getting 3 checks today), I still think their PROFITS (ain’t talkin’ taxes here!) are a tad excessive.
There’s only so much gold foil toilet paper you can buy before it become blase. If you’re making more in a month than anyone could possibly spend in a lifetime, you’re making too much. Anything more the the GNP of many 3rd world countries is just for bragging and a displaced feeling of superiority.
(yes, I admit, I’m the king of hyperbole, but ya get my drift)
ghotiphaze
What do you suggest they do, give their profits away? Stop selling gas?
Should they stop exploring for new oil reserves?
How much profit is Politikally Korrect? And who decides?
The more profits they make the more the Feds make off of them. You saying the Feds should get it all after a certain point?
Exxon CEO’s 2004 paycheck: $38 million
Gee, I could live about forever on 38 million–just interest would probably corrupt me to no end. Now if he took every other year’s paycheck and reduced the price of gas a cent or two, and every other taking in the same kind of salary, Just think, gas would only be $3 bucks a gallon (’cause ya know they’ll lie about the cost of gas and just hide the money anyway).
Ok, I’m a cynic.
Heckler, as Exxon increases its profits, the feds get 35% of it; that is the maximum corporate income tax rate. Yes, between 15 million and 18.3 million in taxable income, there is a 38% rate applied. Exxon’s profits are at the level, however, that the rate applied is 35%.
The 41% of “AGI” (a concept which is foreign to me in the corporate income tax area) suggests that there is also some corporate AMT being paid by Exxon.
http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=200673
Fort Hood soliders breaking the silence in war in Iraq
2/17/2008 10:53 PM
By: Chelsea Hover
Hart Viges passes out pamphlets.
A growing number of active duty soldiers or recent Iraq war veterans are speaking up about the war in Iraq.
And with the number of soldiers speaking up about their experiences in Iraq via online forums, blogs and pamphlets, some vets feel it’s their duty to let the American public know the truth.
“The honest truth is that if the American people knew what was going on over there everyday, they would be raising their voices too. They would be saying, ‘Hey, bring those guys home,” Sgt. Selena Coppa said.
Coppa blames lawmakers in Washington for filtering the facts on the war in Iraq. She said there’s no real end in sight.
“There is a cost to this war. This war is being paid in American blood, in my soldier’s blood. And that is not okay,” Coppa said.
“We lost really good friends, really good leaders who died in Iraq. From my perspective, it didn’t make any sense, we didn’t
accomplish anything, and I talked to a lot of other soldiers who feel the same way,” Fort Hood soldier Casey Porter said.
MORE AT LINK
See it here:
http://www.news8austin.com/shared/video/video_pop.asp?destlist=49383
*****
Official number of American dead: 3,963
This does not include mercenaries and contract workers.
Fifth anniversary of invasion and occupation is only weeks away . . .
Porter is spending his numbered days in the U.S. passing out pamphlets before he is redeployed this summer.
Future victim of friendly fire. Ya don’t dis the Shrub.
Oops, 3,963 dead was yesterday’s number–Today it’s 3,966.
WORST.
PRESIDENT.
EVER.
I have several friends who are career military.
They have a lot of reasons for why they enlisted. Most of them for the educational opportunities. One friend got to medical school and is a psychiatrist dealing PTSD. It’s important, essential work, but it breaks his heart that it’s needed. As with most careerists, the Pentagon is like the home office that generally tries to do the right thing but is so bogged down in politics (office and global), procedure, and a moron for a Commander in Chief.
There’s a level of patriotism in these people that’s not the ballyhooing flag-waving type favored by most chicken-hawks. It’s, rather, a level of professionalism dedicated to doing the right thing in a business where everything’s likely to go wrong.
Al-Sadr Threatens to End Cease-Fire
By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA – 2 hours ago
BAGHDAD (AP) — Anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr may let a six-month cease-fire expire as soon as Saturday, a move that could send his Shiite militia fighters back out on the streets and jeopardize recent security gains that have led to a sharp decline in violence.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gkx-3oYeFwuWKCusr2jrojs98w8wD8UU3KG00
Huh
Wonder how the surge spinners will word it when we start losing 100 Americans a day again.
Vaughn Tolle
Posted February 20, 2008 at 10:36 am | Permalink
Come on Max, all investors demand a high rate of return on their investments; political orientation has little to nothing to do with it.
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Yup, and that was my point. Cons and Libs both demand high returns.
But the only ones I hear complaining about the greedy corporations are the Libs.
You cannot get your high returns if you tax away the profits from the corporations where your money is invested. And you cannot have jobs in America, without profitable corporations.
TRACY
Posted February 20, 2008 at 10:54 am | Permalink
I’m happy about companies making profit.
It’s a good thing.
Now what about this?
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.55 billion per day since September 29, 2006!
I’m not asking to bankrupt corporations.
What I am asking for is fiscal responsibilty from our govt.
——————————————-
And don’t forget there are two components to this equation. Increase taxes and or Decrease spending.
Since the Federal Government has NEVER decreased Spending, let’s try that just once, before taxes are raised again.
Apprentice…
Amarosa….
First Lady…..
oh fu__…..
Just random thoughts folks, walk on by.
AmWay,
Good for us? Tell my budget that. You know, a real budget, not some overblown b.s. provided by government.
As the price of gas ping pongs higher, I find myself at the gas pump less and less, driving only when absolutely necessary. I guess that means I’m not helping the economy? Tell ya what. When the economy starts helping me, then I’ll be able to help the economy. It’s a vicious circle.
Y’all can call Dr. Paul a kook all day long. Funny thing is he already won. Listen to y’all talking about being fiscally conservative. Reducing the size and cost of government. Did any of the candidates bring that up (except the Dr.)? Where did this come from?
Look over on the other threads and see once rabid-pro-Bush-war-machines declaring Iraq a stupid endeavor.
Apart from Rudy and Ron Paul, no other GOP candidate talked about fiscal responsibility and reducing government. Shoot, even leftist WS is talking about it – BEFORE starting any entitlement programs.
What a wonderful thing Dr. Paul did. He was called a kook and blacked out, yet the message of freedom and liberty rings strong across both parties.
Outstanding. Hold your candidate (whomever it may be) to the fire. Demand that s/he be fiscally and foreign policy responsible. Amazing !!! Thank God for the revolution.
RD, the price of gas jumped as a result of a refinery fire in Texas and some other issues.
Thank you, Regular. I heard about and read the story yesterday, so I’m aware of the WHY on the higher price of gas. I’m just curious to see how long it takes to drop and how far it will go down, before we see another hike. It would be fascinating if not so predictable.
Gas prices? Y’all up to speed on the Chavez v. EXOM? You think things are bad now, wait until the MSM gets their heads out of their a$$ long enough to see this freight train plowing down.
By the by, we get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico. Venezuela is forth on the list. The Mid East is farther still down the chain.
By the by, we get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico. Venezuela is forth on the list.
Knew that. Didn’t everyone?
Unfortunately, Sol, the source of the oil isn’t all that relevant when OPEC, in essence, through its actions in deciding how much it will supply, taken together with the “speculation premium” I’ve posted earlier, affects the world price. The $$ may go to Canada or Mexico more than to Venezuela (an OPEC member as well) or to the Mid East, but it’s the same amount of $$.
Pot calls Kettle Black. Let’s get real about Clinton’s Rhetoric and her Record!
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/hillary_clinton_lets_get_real.html
Hillary Clinton: ‘Let’s get real’ about Obama
By Rick Pearson
NEW YORK—After suffering defeats in Wisconsin and Hawaii yesterday, Sen. Hillary Clinton came home to a supportive audience in Manhattan today and told upcoming Democrat primary voters it was time to “get real” about rival Sen. Barack Obama’s record and rhetoric.
Think Hillary will run as an Independent after she loses the Democrat nomination?
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2032989820080220?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Obama surges past Clinton
Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:25am
The poll showed Obama with a 14-point edge over Clinton, 52 percent to 38 percent, after being in a statistical tie with the New York senator last
month.
From CNN Money I you know most of you are aware of this,
http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/06/pf/retirement/401k_fees/index.htm
Roughly 47 million working individuals participated in a 401(k) plan in 2005, up from 7.5 million in 1984, according to The Profit Sharing/401k Council of America.
But because of weak disclosure rules, many workers are often poorly informed about all the potential fees they face, according to prepared remarks by experts, obtained ahead of Tuesday’s hearing.
Over 80 percent of 401(k) investors are not aware of how much they pay in fees, according to a recent report published by United States Government Accountability Office.
The right way to tap into your 401(k)
Workers have seen their account balances penalized due to excessive fees by an average of 15 percent over the past 20 years, according to one expert set to speak before members of Congress Tuesday.
“We have to ask whether all these fees are necessary, and we have to examine whether they are undermining workers’ retirement security,” said California Congressman George Miller, chairman of the House committee.
According to prepared remarks by one independent pension fiduciary who will appear at Tuesday’s hearing, 401(k) participants face as least seven different hidden fees, which cover everything from brokerage costs to trading fees that investors incur when they fiddle with their portfolio.
In some instances 401(k) participants are forced to pony up for services they may not even receive.
And those fees can add up quickly.
Take an investor who makes a $150 contribution per pay period to his or her existing $30,000 401(k) account balance. Assuming a rate of return of 8 percent over 25 years, the investors who has to pay just 1 percent in annual fees, will sacrifice $85,000 to fees by the time they retire.
Often times it’s workers at smaller companies who end up getting stung the most by hidden fees, according to Stephen Butler, president of Pension Dynamics Corporation, who is scheduled to speak before lawmakers Tuesday.
Smaller firms are not always savvy enough when it comes to picking a retirement plan, says Butler, and its workers can end up paying up to 100 times more for the exact same services that a Fortune 500 firm receives.
One solution offered by experts such as Butler include a national standard disclosure form that would outline the amount an investor would have to pay in dollars and compound earnings over 10 and 20 years based on average fees charged to participants.
“As the price of gas ping pongs higher, I find myself at the gas pump less and less, driving only when absolutely necessary.”
That’s why I bought me a Honda Civic Hybrid! I’m a little cramped in it (tall and fat), but I more than doubled my MPG and cut my fuel cost in half.
Plus the insurance happened to be less than on my previous rustbucket. Averaging 44 MPG. Plus I got a nice tax credit ($1,500) from the state of Kansas, and at the time, a nice one from the Feds (I don’t think the Honda qualifies Fed anymore).
I still feel the pain when I go the pumps. But on the bright side, the Indian running the place doesn’t know me by name anymore (since I’m stopping less frequently), and as I listen to the pump running, I feel some compensation knowing I own a piece of the company.
Could use a little more leg room, but with the saving on fuel (I commute long distances), I can bear it.
Global Cooling Update
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080103/94768732.html
AS Venezuela is an OPEC country, have y’all put into perspective the actions of EXOM against Venezuela?
Outlander from your source:
“The real reasons for climate changes are uneven solar radiation, terrestrial precession (that is, axis gyration), instability of oceanic currents, regular salinity fluctuations of the Arctic Ocean surface waters, etc. There is another, principal reason—solar activity and luminosity. The greater they are the warmer is our climate.”
Shocking. I tell you, shocking.
Hey wait a minute! Cosmos, doesn’t this guy work for one of the big oil companies?
GW – Global Wobbling is the cause of Global Warming.
Not man.
Friendly Reminder:
Baiting of Cosmos is a WEBlog rules violation.
Blog Editor,
Please review my posts. I’ve been kind and gentle all week.
Besides, if you think Cosmos, will let the above post/link from Outlander, or my extract from it
pass by……….
you must be smoking something! :-)
Seriously. The guy comes out of NOWHERE, if anyone even mentions GW. It could be a thread about the price of beans in China, and someone will mention the weather in China – and BAM! Cosmos is all over it.
Come on! Am I the only one to notice this?
That’s why I bought me a Honda Civic Hybrid!
Well, hooray for you. But then I’m not making monthly payments on a new car, with high interest rates to lenders. It just might be that it evens out.
2003 Honda Civic Hybrid.
$23,500 sticker price (less trade in)
Last car payment: 2006
I drive em until they fall apart from under me.
“Since the Federal Government has NEVER decreased Spending, let’s try that just once, before taxes are raised again.”
Let the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010. Lessen spending on Medicare and Social Security now. Doing so later will only hurt worse.
The tax on gas in Kansas is about 42 cents/gallon.
What a screwing!
Heard on Paul Harvey today that Bush is in Ghana today giving them money / aid to improve their educational system — Ghana is rich in diamonds and gold —- they need our money because ……..
ghotiphaze
Posted February 20, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink
By the by, we get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico. Venezuela is forth on the list.
Knew that. Didn’t everyone?”
No I didn’t — have a link ?
Well we should take democracy to Venezuela and get more of their oil — transportation costs alone should save us a penny a gallon — but instead of using bombs and bullets to get access to the oil why don’t we just start sending therm tons and tons of humanitarian aid, build a couple of coal plants (Sunflower ya listening?) a couple hundred Taco Bells and McDonalds, get Madonna and the Hollywood folks to adopt all thier orphans, put a big screen hd tv in every other house — then anyone that puts up any resistence we take Hank, Nathan and the other CCL freaks here to go down there and check out all the restaurants etc for potential bad guys — they get to flash their holsters and scare everyone off — and we get the oil thanks in advance hank et al ….
“Lessen spending on Medicare and Social Security now. Doing so later will only hurt worse.”
So you would reduce entitlement programs to millions of Americans? And you picked the two entitlements that people actually put money in to.
You are addressing seniors with your cuts. Very brave. Heck, Bush loved em so much he gave em a new entitlement for prescription drugs! (More free money).
I don’t suppose the AARP will like this idea, nor the democratic party? Remember, just last year they told Bush to cram his social security savings account/investment?
Why? Because the leadership of the democratic party said social security has NO PROBLEMO’s POR FAVOR.
So NOW, you want to cut it off money seniors have been waiting for in their happy golden years?
No I didn’t — have a link ?
Actually, I got it a couple years ago for a college paper. I got most of my stats for papers in those days from a CIA website listing stats on all countries. I’m sure if you google, you’ll find that site. I no longer write papers for college and have gone through two computers since then so I no longer have it bookmarked.
More fodder for late night comedians to make fun of Kansas………………
From the front page on the online Eagle.
Man suspected of having sex with dog arrested
http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/317054.html
20 year old man breaks into a garage, rapes a 4 year old rottweiler, gets caught.
And worse, he has a previous conviction for the same thing in Reno County.
God help us.
outlander,
You can find much more info re palaeoclimate, Milankovitch cycles, etc in chapter 6 at,
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
Clark, reminds me of the richard pryor joke of the guy and a pig. His wife catches him and threatens to yell it to the neighborhood. The guy says better not or he’ll tell who was better, the pig or the wife.
Cosmos, Outlander doesnt care about facts…Facts just confuse him and give him a massive headache!! But, that was a nice offer…
Sounds like a case of “more information than we need”.
Chas,
What’s ironic is that outlander, and others here fail to understand that scientists have used palaeoclimate, Milankovitch cycles, solar activity, etc to better understand the current AGW changes.
Max, you NAILED IT.
How unpopular to say that the Emporer wears no clothes!
Americans as a govt, and a nationality, have been spending like crazy for too many years without ever balancing a checkbook.
At least individuals have had to at least make interst payments. On the other side, the govt pukes keep up the big tax cut BS.
In order to be a responsible, healthy govt, we will need to remove Bushco’s tax cuts.
And….all kinds of spending across the board.
Or….do we keep our heads in the sand and “stimulate the economy” right into further bankruptcy? Huh?
Has ANYONE here considered where we get the money to pay for all this?
WE BORROW IT FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD!
$9,267,415,779,359 is our NEGATIVE BALANCE!
Quit arguing about Exxon and CEO’s.
It’s a straw man and a damned distraction….HA!
WSC, keep yer dog inside just in case.
Later ol bud
Trace
TRACY
Posted February 20, 2008 at 2:59 pm | Permalink
Max, you NAILED IT.
How unpopular to say that the Emporer wears no clothes!
Americans as a govt, and a nationality, have been spending like crazy for too many years without ever balancing a checkbook.
At least individuals have had to at least make interst payments. On the other side, the govt pukes keep up the big tax cut BS.
In order to be a responsible, healthy govt, we will need to remove Bushco’s tax cuts.
And….all kinds of spending across the board.
Or….do we keep our heads in the sand and “stimulate the economy” right into further bankruptcy? Huh?
Has ANYONE here considered where we get the money to pay for all this?
WE BORROW IT FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD!
$9,267,415,779,359 is our NEGATIVE BALANCE!
Quit arguing about Exxon and CEO’s.
It’s a straw man and a damned distraction….HA!
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Ok, Bush I was suckered into this same approach. We should NOT repeat his mistake.
BEFORE the tax cuts are allowed to expire, CUT the Federal budget by 10% across the board, then maintain spending increases at 1% or more below inflation after that.
I’ve never seen Federal spending cut. Nobody can make that happen?
Government is SOOOOO quick though to raise taxes. They should be just as quick to cut spending IF they were more concerned about the future of America, then they were about the next election.
FAKE SUGAR!!!
Cosmos, you got that right!!
Okay, AmWay–
You convinced me.
You’re not JM-Regular. You actually criticize Republicans. JM-Regular would never say he had a Honda Hybrid Civic even if he were lying. Also, he’s not hip enough to know about Appleton Reserve.
I publicly apologize for thinking that you were JM-Republican-Regular.
I don’t apologize to JM-Regular however, because he’s such a lying sack, he makes it impossible to tell when he’s not lying.
Thank you and carry on . . .
Worst. President. Ever. is seen by even more Americans as the Worst. President. Ever.
His approval rating has punched through 20 percent to an astonishingly low 19 percent!
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February 20, 2008
Concerns over Economy Push
George W. Bush’s Overall Job Approval to New Low
George W. Bush’s overall job approval rating has dropped to a new low in American Research Group polling as 78% of Americans say that the national economy is getting worse according to the latest survey from the American Research Group.
Among all Americans, 19% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 77% disapprove. When it comes to Bush’s handling of the economy, 14% approve and 79% disapprove.
Among Americans registered to vote, 18% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 78% disapprove. When it comes to the way Bush is handling the economy, 15% of registered voters approve of the way Bush is handling the economy and 79% disapprove.
A total of 78% of Americans say the national economy is getting worse and 47% say the national economy is in a recession. A total of 42% of Americans, however, say they believe the national economy will be better a year from now, which is the highest level for this question in the past year. This optimism does not spread to improvements in household financial situations as 17% of Americans say they expect their household financial situations to be better a year from now, which is the lowest for this question in the past year.
http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/
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For anyone whose student is in high school, is bright enough to be considered for admission at Stanford, and who is worried about the cost; Stanford eliminates tuition payments for students whose family income is $100,000 or less; if the family income is under $60,000, there will be a significant amount of assistance in paying for room and board. Looks like the private schools are starting to conduct a genteel “bidding war” to attract desirable students. The article notes that about one-third the students at Stanford currently will benefit from this change.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/20/pf/college/stanford_tuition.ap/index.htm?cnn=yes
Thats interesting… Just a little while ago, Limbaugh was bragging on how GWB’s approval rating was UP to 34%!! I think maybe Limbaugh is related to Regular/JM/Kansas, et al!!
Chas, how would YOU know who the real Sugar is?
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Either its a full moon, or the TROLLS are taking over the Blog! Oh well, What EVer!!
Unless you know nothing about the subject, Amway, which I don’t believe would likely be true – as boomers retire, we will be paying out more than we bring in to these programs (as early as 2017).
According to the Government Accountability Office:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d07983r.pdf
Unless changes are made, by 2040, nearly every dollar the government collects in taxes will be needed for Social Security, Medicare, and paying interest on the debt. There are several options for reining in spending on these popoular entitlement programs – each have up and down sides. We should be discussing this unpopular topic rather than acting like everything is going fine. Privatizing Social Security would be on the bottom of my list. My favored methods are: raise the age of when both programs start (we are living longer), means test – (Oprah – gets neither program, nor does Bill Gates), would hospice care be better than Medicare heroic efforts for end of life care? Plus there are other options.
Let the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010.
I would be a very popular politician: “I will raise your taxes and reduce your entitlements! But we can have an unlimited supply of hope! Most importantly future generations will not revile and hate us for our indulgences.”
Unlike our current politicians, I believe if Americans understood the dire straights we are in, and trusted that everyone would be making the needed sacrifices, they would be in favor doing what is necessary.
During the first – 8 – eight years of his elected service Obama sponsored over 820 bills.
He introduced >>>
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 – became law,
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, – became law,
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, – became law,
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.
In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record according to several Blog posters.
He’s not just a talker.
Straight from the Senate Record.
Chas…thanks for posting that. His record has not been highlighted much. Maybe Hillary hasn’t questioned it since hers is not as extensive?
Authoring 152 bills is quite a record. Co-sponsoring, however, is a simple matter of sending an email saying to add a name to an existing bill. It does show a lot of involvement, tho.
There was a lot of criticism aimed at Brownback for his missing Senate votes during his abysmal and ridiculous run. What is the record for the 3 left standing? How many votes have McCain, Obama and Clinton missed? Anyone know?
It’s on this site for each of them. McCain has missed 55% of the votes, Hillary 27%.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/
And did you know Taz, That Bart Starr threw more touchdown passes than Nolan Ryan??
Want to try again??
Not a football fan, Chas…your reference is lost on me.
Thanks Pmama.
Did you know that Chas has more skirts than Sugar?
I wish that Rottie would have bitten that guy’s balls off. Now that would have made an interesting ER visit.
What a fn sicko.
oops – that should be robes…
:D
Effin TROLLS!!!
Kansas needs a bias free media.
The media KS now has is biased beyond the pale.
Details at my blog.
Taz writes:
“How many votes have McCain, Obama and Clinton missed? Anyone know?”
Taz, my post regarding Obama has to do with the bills he has authored, co-sponsored, and bills PASSED…. It has nothing to do with votes missed… With all of Obama’s activity as posted, your question is apples and oranges!!
“I wish that Rottie would have bitten that guy’s balls off. Now that would have made an interesting ER visit.”
I wonder if he practiced safe sex…….
Chas…it was an honest question. Following the thread of his accomplishments, (which are impressive), I was just curious about voting records of the three major candidates. Is there something wrong with asking how often they show up while trying to run a major campaign?
My question was framed in light of the criticism that Brownback got (and deserved) for missing so many votes…yet there hasn’t been one negative thing said about missed votes by McCain, Obama or Clinton.
OK Taz
Uh oh, McCain involved in an affair too? Staffers say they’re protecting Mccain from himself by keeping an old ‘lobbyist girlfriend’ away from him?
This story is breaking, I have no link yet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?hp
SCANDAL, ONCE AGAIN, TAINTS JOHN McCAIN?
UPDATE: 02-20-08 (5:04 PST) Matt Drudge is reporting …
“Months later, NY TIMES set to launch results of its McCain investigation of senator’s relationships with lobbyists… Developing Late…”
UPDATE: Together again…
According to the Washington Post…McCain Says Allegations That He Did Favors for D.C. Lobbyist Are Untrue
“It is unfortunate that rumor and gossip enter into political campaigns,” said the statement from Jill Hazelbaker, the campaign’s communications director. “John McCain has a 24-year record of serving this country with honor and integrity. He has never violated the public trust, never done favors for special interests or lobbyists, and he will not allow a smear campaign to distract from the important issues facing our country.”
Hires top-notch Washington lawyer, Bill Bennett, to negotiate with the New York Times…
Bennett represented President Bill Clinton during the impeachment investigation mounted by Congress. In 1989, Bennett was special counsel to a Senate ethics committee probe of five senators, including McCain, over their ties to convicted savings-and-loan executive Charles Keating. The panel concluded that McCain used poor judgment in interceding with banking regulators on Keating’s behalf, but that no punishment was warranted.
Original story…
According to a developing story on the Drudge Report, John McCain may be involved in another scandal involving special interests. While John McCain may be decrying the “suspicious timing” of a report which may link him to impropriety, given his past history of scandal and back-room deals, I say it is better we learn the truth NOW rather than later.
MEDIA FIREWORKS: MCCAIN PLEADS WITH NY TIMES TO SPIKE STORY
“Just weeks away from a possible surprise victory in the primaries, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz has been waging a ferocious behind the scenes battle with the NEW YORK TIMES, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, and has hired DC power lawyer Bob Bennett to mount a bold defense against charges of giving special treatment to a lobbyist!”
“McCain has personally pleaded with NY TIMES editor Bill Keller not to publish the high-impact report involving key telecom legislation before the Senate Commerce Committee, newsroom insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT.”
“The drama involves a woman lobbyist who may have helped to write key telecom legislation. The woman in question has retained counsel and strongly denies receiving any special treatment from McCain.
Rutenberg, along with reporter David Kirkpatrick, has been developing the story for the last 6 weeks. ”
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME McCAIN has been questioned on his ethics…
According to Wikipedia…
“The Keating Five (or Keating Five Scandal) refers to a Congressional scandal related to the collapse of most of the Savings and Loan institutions in the United States in the late 1980s.”
“In 1989, the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association of Irvine, Calif., collapsed. Lincoln’s chairman, Charles H. Keating Jr., was faulted for the thrift’s failure. Keating, however, told the House Banking Committee that the FHLBB and its former chief Edwin J. Gray were pursuing a vendetta against him. Gray testified that several U.S. senators had approached him and requested that he ease off on the Lincoln investigation. It came out that these senators had been beneficiaries of $1.3 million (collective total) in campaign contributions from Keating.”
“This allegation set off a series of investigations by the California government, the United States Department of Justice, and the Senate Ethics Committee. The ethics committee’s investigation focused on five senators: Alan Cranston (D-CA); Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ); John Glenn (D-OH); John McCain (R-AZ); and Donald W. Riegle, Jr. (D-MI), who became known as the Keating Five.”
“After months of testimony revealed that all five senators acted improperly to differing degrees, the senators continually said they were following the status quo of campaign funding practices. In August 1991, the committee concluded that Cranston, DeConcini, and Riegle’s conduct constituted substantial interference with the FHLBB’s enforcement efforts and that they had done so at the behest of Charles Keating. The committee recommended censure for Cranston and criticized the other four for “questionable conduct.”
Campaign Finance Legislative Failure…
“McCain also remained in the Senate and he made campaign finance reform a key legislative interest. Substantial campaign finance reform was not passed until the adoption of the McCain-Feingold Act.”
The impact of the poorly-crafted McCain-Feingold Act has given power to lobbyists and others who use its provisions to raise almost unlimited and untraceable amounts of money using special tax-exempt entitites known as 527s after their IRS tax code section. This has made people like far-left weirdo George Soros major players in democratic campaigns and the plan to defeat the Bush Administration.
Kennedy-McCain SHAMnesty Act
McCain was also a key player in a secret backroom deal (apparently the type he favors) with the democrats to craft the Kennedy-McCain SHAMnesty legislation which would have subverted the sovereignty of the United States and furthered the destruction of our healthcare, education, retirement, law enforcement and social benefits infrastructure in ways that are still affecting legislation and government programs.
The old fellow still has some wood eh PMom?
What I am hearing, is not a sex scandal, but rather, a Lobbyist Scandal, and political ethics. Nothing is being said right now about any kind of romantic tryst…
Predictable Regular…. Got his mind on the gonad factor, as usual… Geez!!
Seems that the story is a retrieval from 8 years ago… NOT a romantic relationship, or a sex scandal…. Sorry Regular, looks like you gotta get your jollies somewhere else for now…
Well I see a new appeal for McCain shaping up. Can you say Jennifer Flowers?
I bet this will nail the presidency for him.
Drudge is a low life gossip monger… Barely got a high school diploma, and runs stories with little or no basis… based on anonymous sources, speaking on condition of anonymity…
Maybe now somebody will go after Drudge… Maybe thats why the NYT ran the story, with Drudge’s name prominently included in the story…
The story dates back to the 2000 campaign…
KsGrm, what is there about NOT A ROMANTIC story, did you miss??
On Lou Dobbs tonight they read a “late breaking bulletin” from the NY Times saying it was some sort of romantic liason
Countdown on MSNBC says it is not a romantic story… AND, it’s EIGHT YEARS OLD!! Has something to do with the lady being a lobbyist!!
Story started out as a Drudge Leak… Somebody should glue his keyboard LOL
BOTH McCain AND the woman say it is not a romantic story (Countdown)
McCain has a whole lot more to get passed than just an old story about his (platonic) relationship with a lobbyist.
He and the GOP should be much more concerned with his connection to and support of George W Bush.
That fact will get him about 30% of the general election vote.
In the general he is going to have to run away from Bush or he will suffer the same fate as Bob Dole – the heir apparent about ten years too late.
I agree Clark… should be interesting…
Well Charles MSNBC has been censured twice in the last two weeks for incorrect or biased reporting and you are taking their word over CNN. Will wonders never cease?
Wait until the demo nominee is selected and see the fat hit the fan. This will be the dirtiest election in recorded history. Wait and see.
“MSNBC has been censured twice in the last two weeks”
For biased reporting? That must mean that Fox Noise is censured every five or six minutes, or less.
By the way, WHO did the censuring?
“Well Charles MSNBC has been censured twice in the last two weeks..”
Got a link? First I’ve heard of it.
WEll well well.
McCain playing pattycake with lobbyists!
The irony here is MAGNIFICENT!
Not two weeks ago, the cons would have been all over this to dispose of McCain!
Oh but NOW all the edorsements are in place! Why, even talk radio was starting to shill for McCain.
Oh this is gonna take more than spin. The right will be turning itself inside out!
The network had to put Schubert on two weeks suspension for his language concerning Chelsea Clinton and last night on Hardball when Chris Matthews was talking about Obama the picture showing behind him was Ben Laden. I’m sure it was just a mistake but they did have to issue an apology to Obama’s campaign.
As for Fox, Hillary Clinton no less said they were the most fair and unbiased news network out there.
“Clinton said that her staff had sent her “some independent study” “which seemed to suggest that” “in terms of the fairness of the coverage,” Fox News Channel has treated her campaign more fairly than MSNBC.
“I really am troubled by this pattern of behavior and comments that you hear” on MSNBC, said Clinton. Recently, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews came under heat for comments deemed sexist by many and liberal media watchdog group MediaMatters has increased its scrutiny of the cable network.”
Read it and weep. If you are wrong about this WS what else are you wrong about? Hummmm???
KsGrm, I think you need to provide some kind of link regarding MSNBC being censured… And to re-iterate a question above: WHO would be the censurors of a News Network??
BTW, it was on CNN too!!
Chas needs a link…
Not to mention the NYT article… NOTHING about a romantic tryst anywhere!! Why?? Probably because there wasnt one!!
AND, everybody — please keep in mind that this isnt something NEW… This goes back EIGHT YEARS!! To the FIRST time McCain ran for President… against GWB!! Remember Bush’s dirty tactics in So. Carolina?? Hmmmm????
“Read it and weep. If you are wrong about this WS what else are you wrong about? Hummmm???”
First of all, you used the term censured, so who did the censuring?
Second, you CLAIM that HRC said that Fox yada, yada.
Provide a link.
Last, what was I wrong about? Asking a question?
Well excuse the Hell out of me.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh…………………..
Chas get a grip. Listen to the news daily. It was on ABC about the picture. What do you think a censure is? They were forced to say they made a mistake and apologize for it. They suspended the newsman who talked about Chelsea Clinton. You and JR need to pull your heads out and read something besides the demounderground.
Granny, you are off on your apples/oranges search again… Cant you try to stay on point??? Your original allegation was that MSNBC was not reporting the McCain story properly, and that they had been censored…
You havent shown that to be true… You have mentioned a couple of incidfents dealing with individual reporters!!
Shoot, O’Reilly used the word Lynching in reference to going after Michelle Obama today… He works for FOX… They have done NOTHING… “lynching Michelle Obama” is what you call fair and balanced??? Yea, right!!
Flimsy and weak grmie.
“Well Charles MSNBC has been censured twice in the last two weeks..”
Methinks you exaggerated just a bit.
Definition of censure: An expression of strong disapproval or harsh criticism.
Anyone hearing Hillary and Obama speak about these occurences would know they strongly disapproved and harshly criticized them.
I am getting so sick and tired of all of this sexism and racism… in this campaign…. I am just about ready to call up Fritz, and see if he would come out of retirement… I think maybe a debate between Fritz, and McCain might be interesting!! LOL
How about how Edy Hill on Fox “news” outright LIED about Michell Obama today?
JR you are indeed pathetic. I prefer to blog with people with brains which is why I come here infrequently. You and Chas need a life.
WS if I was short with you I apologize. Just responding to the tenor of Chas and JR’s posts.
Yep JR… flat out mis-quoted her all over the place!! BAD mis-quote…
I think you got your own problems with your boy there grmie.
And I damn sure hope we don’t elect Obama to work with such as you.
It’s dog piling time…time for all bad little Libs to come out and pile on the nearest Republican.
Time for good Republicans to wave “buh bye” with the finger of their choice and rest well through the night. :)
Granny, YOU said the NETWORK was censored… Now you are trying to spin it to Clinton and Obama??? THEY are the candidates!! Naturally they are going to holler if they dont get the coverage they want…
Hobble on off then gramma.
Chas.
Posted February 20, 2008 at 7:33 pm | Permalink
Countdown on MSNBC says it is not a romantic story… AND, it’s EIGHT YEARS OLD!! Has something to do with the lady being a lobbyist!!
Chas for the feeble minded: YOU cited MSNBC as a source. I simply told you they were not very respected in news circles. You took it from there.
I’ll leave you and JR to finish the evening together. Don’t want to but in.
Why dont you just admit it Granny…. MSNBC the NETWORK was not censored by ANYbody… not this week, not last week…
Spin, baby, spin!!!
Wel it does seem to bring up a point doesn’t it? If it scared him away 8 yrs ago, is it any less valid now?
You bet your sweet bippy I said that, cause I was watching it as I typed it!! Geez!!
Get your bonnet under control, eh???
Censured for biased and incorrect reporting…..
One incident – they showed the wrong file picture.
Biased – no. Incorrect – no They put up the wrong picture, a technician’s error.
Second incident – reporter suspended for language.
Biased – no. Incorrect – no. Stupid, yes.
Fox news wants Hillary to win because they think she’d be easier to beat against McCain. There is NO doubt that MSNBC especially Olbermann has shown a HIGH bias toward Obama.
For this, I have been disappointed.
GRANNY??? Oh, GRANNY??? YOUR response to me was this >>>>
Read Carefully PLEASE…
ksgrm
Posted February 20, 2008 at 8:18 pm | Permalink
Well Charles MSNBC has been censured twice in the last two weeks for incorrect or biased reporting and you are taking their word over CNN. Will wonders never cease?
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YOU, Granny, YOU said the whole darned network has been censured twice in the last two weeks… PROVE THAT, if you can!!
C’mon, you’re losing it old girl!!
Meanwhile, the Fox Noise channel idiot, Bill O’Reilly, STILL maintains that there are NOT nearly 200,000 homeless American vets, despite the fact that the VA’s own website indicates that number.
Now, who is fair and balanced?
Ken, it was that rumor about an alleged child that scared him off… if scared is the right term… I think it has more to do with some kind of “rumored” favors that McCain might have given to a lobbyist…. And that after he helped pass legislation on Senate Ethics… It sure was SEX… Given that this happened in 2000, if it would have been SEX… on the heels of Monica… it would have been a HUGE story!! And it wasnt…
Well, well, once again, Granny seems to be on another hit and run mission!! Didnt work this time either!! LOL
“YOU, Granny, YOU said the whole darned network has been censured twice in the last two weeks… PROVE THAT, if you can!!”
Chas you are indeed prone to exageration aren’t you. Why do you care one way or the other what happens to MSNBC. Do you really think bias doesn’t exist for any station but Fox. I can’t believe even you are that naeive.
WS I don’t really watch O’Reilly. He isn’t one of my favorites. I think all news people have biases. Wish it weren’t so but I am afraid it is.
NO GRANNY… NO EXAGGERATION HERE…. THIS IS YOUR RESPONSE TO ME…. READ IT AND THEN TRY TO SPIN ON IT… BUT IT HAS YOUR NORMAL SHARP EDGE, SO BE CAREFUL HOW YOU SPIN!!
ksgrm
Posted February 20, 2008 at 8:18 pm | Permalink
Well Charles MSNBC has been censured twice in the last two weeks for incorrect or biased reporting and you are taking their word over CNN. Will wonders never cease?
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YOU said MSNBC has been censured twice….
YOU then tried to spin out of it….
Want to try again??? And you STILL provide no link that supports your claim that MSNBC was censored…. Would that be because there IS no such link???
All I ask of you, is that you stop LYING!!
O’Reilly is pure SLIME
Chas lives under the slime…
Oh my, how predictable… Typical LYING ad hominem… When presented with facts, Regular fades to dark, and LIES… The more things change, some things stay the same!! Regular is a LYING TROLL!!
I think Chas says “lying and liar” more than Bill Clinton’s Impeachment Committee did. :D
A bill in the Missouri state legislature would make sure that a husband can’t threaten his wife with divorce if she refuses to commit an abortion, and prevents forcing a woman into committing an abortion by cutting off financial assistance, cutting her off from her job, or revoking a scholarship. The bill also includes a measure that requires abortion mills to allow women a chance to see an ultrasound of their
unborn child prior to the abortion. (Viewing a good ultrasound image causes most mothers in abortion mills to cancel the killing.) Abortion mills would also be required to post signs indicating the various kinds of help available for continuing a crisis pregnancy.
Missouri has a real chance of enacting such pro-life measures, while Kansas pro-life bills face a sure veto, since anything that would help mothers avoid coercion in filthy, unsafe abortion mills would threaten abortion mill profits. In fact, successful enforcement of the prevention of coerced abortions and ultrasound viewing alone in Kansas would probably shut down all the Kansas abortion mills, for lack of profit.
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Planned Parenthood’s Asheville, NC abortion mill will be closed for one month to repair damage from a fire that apparently started from paint stored near a heater.
You can bet that Planned Parenthood’s abortion mills do not get fire department inspections or any other kind of safety inspection, leaving at even more risk the mothers who enter to contract the killing of their children.
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A 21-year-old mother abandoned her newborn baby girl in a toilet at a St. Helens, OR nursing facility on Valentine’s Day. The infant was resuscitated, and is expected to survive.
I would expect an attempted murder charge for the mother.
“A 21-year-old mother abandoned her newborn baby girl in a toilet at a St. Helens, OR nursing facility on Valentine’s Day. The infant was resuscitated, and is expected to survive.
I would expect an attempted murder charge for the mother.”
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Gee, I would hope there would be an attempted murder charge. Duh… No brainer on that one, Phony Butter…
Some scientists have now decided that the Milky Way Galaxy is a spiral collection of stars about 100,000 light years across and 12,000 light years deep – not 6000 light years deep, as you previously thought.
Science had carelessly lost track of half of our
galaxy for years, it seems.
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Some scientists have now decided that dinosaurs did not change into birds and fly off, after all, but died off when their eggs and hatchlings were eaten by huge demonic frogs.
Parkay, do you get some kind of satisfaction posting SVU stories on the blog?? Do you sit around LOOKING for stories about cruelty??
What a life!!
I’d like to see different legislation.
If a woman INSISTS on entrapping a man with a baby, a man should have the option of paying for the abortion.
If the woman does not want the abortion, the man should be absolved of all responsibility to the child.
This would end centuries of women entrapping men.
“Some scientists have now decided that dinosaurs did not change into birds and fly off, after all, but died off when their eggs and hatchlings were eaten by huge demonic frogs.”
Hoo BOY parkay you ARE round the bend!
Unfortunately JR, the woman cannot get pregnant without the assistance of the man… Even if she lies about using birth control, the man could also take necessary precautions… Right?? When it comes to making babies, it still takes two to tango…
I heard once that Cain and Abel killed the dinosaurs with bows and arrows made out of special wood, when they were little boys… LOL
And thats no joke… I really heard that once… Of course, I didnt believe it when I was 12 anymore than I believe it now!!
Demonic frogs… has a real SciFi Channel ring to it!! Maybe written by Stephen King in one of his alcoholic stupors??
JR — keep in mind that it IS a Full Moon, and it is a total eclipse tonight!! LOL
It’s a waste of time my asking.
Parkay is a spew and shoot poster. It never engages. And that makes it less credible.
But I’ll try.
Can I have a link for the “scientists” who believe in the “huge demonic frogs”?
This sounds like a cartoon my kid watches!
Chas.
Posted February 20, 2008 at 9:26 pm | Permalink
NO GRANNY… NO EXAGGERATION HERE…. THIS IS YOUR RESPONSE TO ME…. READ IT AND THEN TRY TO SPIN ON IT… BUT IT HAS YOUR NORMAL SHARP EDGE, SO BE CAREFUL HOW YOU SPIN!!
ksgrm
Posted February 20, 2008 at 8:18 pm | Permalink
Well Charles MSNBC has been censured twice in the last two weeks for incorrect or biased reporting and you are taking their word over CNN. Will wonders never cease?
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YOU said MSNBC has been censured twice….
YOU then tried to spin out of it….
Want to try again??? And you STILL provide no link that supports your claim that MSNBC was censored…. Would that be because there IS no such link???
All I ask of you, is that you stop LYING!!
Chas I will say again that MSNBC was severely and harshly critized by other news outlets for their reporting or lack of it.
That is a censure in my book. I back down from nothing. My statement stands. If you have a problem with my verbage then we are even. I have a problem with your verbage everyday.
I really sincerely feel sorry for you. You are a paranoid know it all whose has absolutely no credibility with anyone besides JR. I think that says it all.
No I don’t have a source for that. Guess you will have to google it.
By the way Chas I don’t run off but when you start your badgering of me or anyone else I leave. You can entertain yourself with your lies and half truths.
Good night and may God cause his light to shine upon you and his knowledge and wisdom to enter your vacant mind.
LIES?? you stupid old hag!! I call you out on your own post, and you call ME a liar?? Way to go there you old wench super christian!! God would be sooo proud of your lies!!
First you said MSNBC was harshly criticiaed by Clintonand Obama… NOW you say other news outlets… yet you provide NO LINKS to any of your aggirivating SPINNING!! It is no wonder you are so blasted dizzy, with all of your spinning!! Get your head straight, lady!! PLEASE!! Before you embarass your self, or your family!!
Chas, you make yourself look like a childish self serving A-Hole one a daily basis!
one = on
And the same to you ANTI!! Its not your business.. so why dont you go cover yourself with cat litter, and hope for a visitor??
Yes well.
Dream sweet dreams of John McCain there grmie.
Geez, the first thing the old wench posts about the McCain story has to do with Jennifer Flowers… Naturally something from the Clinton era… her brain is stuck there… THEN when told it isnt a SEX story, she attacks MSNBC…. When challenged on that, she spins and spins, and calls ME a liar!!
I am sick and tired of that kind of disregard for Truth…. Granny, I feel sorry for you that you cant handle truth… apparently in any form….
What I dont GET, is why YOU and so many others on this Blog as SOOO gung ho on Sexual Inuendo!! First thing you type is about Jennifer Flowers… who ACCUSED a target… NO accusastion in this story!!
When you are told it isnt a sex story, You go off hog wild on some nonsense about the entire MSNBC network being censored… Gee, what a LIE that is!!!
THEN when I call you on it, you attack ME because I tell you you are wrong….
Granny, that takes either total stupidity or some kind of illness to get it that WRONG!!!
And you do it almost every DAY lately!! I have said before, you really need to get that problem looked at!! I am serious… You really need to get that looked at!!
I would imagine it can still be fixed… But it isnt something you want to put off!!
PLEASE go get it fixed!!
And now, I will say NO MORE about that subject…
“Some scientists have now decided that dinosaurs did not change into birds and fly off, after all, but died off when their eggs and hatchlings were eaten by huge demonic frogs.”
Sorry, parkay, whoever you are, you are one bug-f.cking nut. Get some meds, okay?
Applause Applause —- the navy hit the satellite with it’s missile — nice shooting p’ahdner —
Here’s what I read about McCain and the lobbyist.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist_5
“The published reports said McCain and Iseman each denied having a romantic relationship, and the paper offered no evidence that they had, saying only that aides worried about the appearance of McCain having close ties to a lobbyist with business before the Senate Commerce Committee on which McCain served.
The story alleges that McCain wrote letters and pushed legislation involving television station ownership that would have benefited Iseman’s clients.”
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That would seem to be the big bad terrible thing McCain did…. However, it appears that he did nothing illegal… poor judgment, maybe… illegal, No!!
Hoever, if you go back to the Keating case, McCain seems to have a habit of bad judgment cases…
Good night; Good luck, and
God Bless; whatever you conceive
God to be!!
Blessings All!!
You know, you’ve really gotta wonder if Huckabee is swiftboating McCain again.
Timing, as with the Obama story, seems awfully suspicious.
Missing half of Milky Way Galaxy story:
See news page
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56872
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Huge demonic frogs eating dinosaur eggs story:
See news page
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080218/sc_nm/frog_devil_dc;_ylt=AgNKAedTVBuSeka7_0PHQ56s0NUE
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