Not only did Barack Obama win his ninth and tenth consecutive state caucus or primary yesterday — winning Wisconsin with 58 percent of the vote and Hawaii with about 75 percent — he also continues to cut into Hillary Clinton’s base. Obama evenly split the white women vote with Clinton in Wisconsin, and he had significant support among blue-collar voters. That doesn’t bode well for Clinton’s chances of winning Texas and Ohio by the landslide margins necessary to overtake Obama’s delegate lead.
Meanwhile, John McCain continued his march toward his inevitable nomination, winning easily in Wisconsin and Washington state.
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I hate to say, I told you so, but I guess I’m just going to have to:
“But the Clinton campaign on Wednesday morning sent an e-mail claiming for the first time that a candidate needs to reach 2,208 delegates to seal the nomination. That number would make it seem like Obama is further from victory than he really is.
Clinton’s campaign still is arguing that Florida and Michigan should have their delegates seated (which would increase the delegate threshold) even though the national committee stripped their delegates for holding early contests in violation of party rules. Clinton won those contests, so a reversal of the DNC decision would benefit her.
Plouffe said the latest delegate projection from Clinton ignores reality.
“They keep coming up with alternative theories on how they can win the nomination that have nothing to do with reality,” Plouffe said. “When they don’t like the delegate math, they try to rewrite the rules.” Foxnews
Obama’s campaign manager is David Plouffe.
The democratic election is going to be stolen.
But just as importantly is the “rewriting of the rules” by the Clintons. They will do ANYTHING evil to seal the deal. This sort of person is someone democrats would want in the White House (Bill’s fiasco’s all over again)?
Tall Black man found in Ft. Marcy Park.
Film at 11.
Just as a side note, which I’m sure all the democrats already know, Obama claims that because Florida and Michigan were off the table, he did not campaign hard in those two states. Had the DNC agreed to couunting them before the primary/caucus in those states – he would have led an effective campaign there.
Preaching hope, inspiration, change, with no substance, no specifics, no media challenge, and media fawning, Obama is instructive of how demagogues rise to power to inflict horrors on humanity.
If Hillary Clinton does not get the Democratic nomination, she should stay on the sidelines and allow Obama to crash and burn in November. This would be in the best interests of America.
I share your concerns crat3, but I will support whoever gets the party’s nomination.
hey crat — go to his web page and see the specifics of his plans —-
you are a horror of humanity — blind idiot –
When Hillary is done with Obama (she says he has no accomplishments, cannot be a commander-in-chief), the Repubs will only have to air her comments in their ads.
The dems will be too bloody to win in November.
Just think, they had it all and will blow it.
“Obama claims that because Florida and Michigan were off the table, he did not campaign hard in those two states.”
By prior agreement, none of the Democrats campaigned in either Michigan or Florida. Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan.
Hillary may want to seat those delegates, but that is not going to happen.
I wonder if Limbaugh’s, “Barak the Magic Negro” will make the Youtube most played list now? Oops, they seemed to have removed it.
Must have offended some Libs there at Google. :D
Barack Obama will rise above the pettiness and cheating and become our next president.
It is the dirty-handed Republicons who have to change the rules when they see themselves losing. “Win at any cost” is the Republicon mantra, and they have demonstrated that they are the experts at it. If the rules don’t work to your advantage, then simply change them before the game is over to tilt the playing field in your direction.
Anyone who has not watched Karl Rove and his slimy playbook win over and over by brazenly cheating, has had their head in the sand for the past 7 years.
No wonder Michelle Obama said that she is finally starting to feel proud to be American after so many years. It’s damn hard to be proud of your country when it is being governed by liars, swindlers, cheaters, crooks and scam artists.
I will swell with PRIDE when Barack Obama places his hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the Constitution. Obama will restore this country to it’s rightful place as MORAL leader of the world, something that has been sorely lacking under the Rove/Bush/Cheney cabal.
Hear me now. Believe me later.
Clinton will drop the S-bomb on Obama a few days before the March 4th primaries. She has to drop it before she loses. She has a card to play and she won’t go down without playing it. I have no clue what it could be, but it will stink.
You heard it here. You’re welcome.
Obama withdrew his name from the Michigan ballot.
He did not have to do so, but he did.
Michigan is now in play for the Republicans, and Florida is a LOCK for Republicans.
The Democrat Party, which said, “Let every vote count” in Florida, when Gore LOST, —
IS NOW NOT COUNTING ANY VOTES????
Look, I can’t stand Hillary, she is a crook.
I think Obama is a Marxist, but he seems an honest Marxist, if there is such a thing.
However, this is a Democrat mess that the Democrats made for themselves.
The Democrat Party clearly had the power to “punish” states for breaking the rules and going “too early” — Republicans just went with a “50% penalty” — the Democrats went NUCLEAR and now they have to deal with the consequences.
Hey Florida, are the voters in Iowa more important than your votes?
Hey Michigan, the Democrats “outsourced” your VOTES!
Come on?
Michelle Obama lives in luxury.
If she has been “ashamed” to be an American, until now, she does not deserve to be First Lady, ever!
Her words will come back to haunt her.
The Obama campaign is already spinning her words, since they know that Michelle screwed up.
Dirty politics?
How about all of those precints in New York that showed ZERO votes for Obama, on election night?
Democrat Dirty Politics have been around forever.
Those who say otherwise do not study history.
Reading how the libs on this blog are ashamed of America, I don’t doubt she said what she meant.
I’ve expressed my own concerns about the Rhorschach Candidate®, but the man does in fact have detailed positions on the issues.
One interesting development: the disagreement between Paul Krugman and Robert Reich on Obama’s health care plan. Krugman doesn’t think it’ll even happen because it doesn’t mandate universal coverage. Reich, however, notes that Obama puts forward more money up front, and actually thinks it’s a better plan than Hillary’s.
I’m not sure what to think at this point. I favor whichever plan makes quality care available for a reasonable price. What we have now, for far too many people, is truly awful care, available for skyrocketing premiums, making it only slightly better than no insurance at all. “Okay, were you infected by a ficus? No? NOT COVERED!
As easy (and fun) as it is to argue about personalities, there are, ya know, issues.
As far Hillary stealing the election, well, that would be an uncommonly stupid move. The scuttlebutt, according to Politico.com, is that there will a tremendous effort to steal the committed delegates (with promises of god-knows-what)–if true, a move which, while apparently quite legal,is particularly disrepectful of what’s left of our democracy.
Let’s hope it’s just talk.
“However, this is a Democrat mess that the Democrats made for themselves.”
By PRIOR agreement, Rossell, as in BEFORE the primaries – the Democrats AGREED that NO delegates would be seated and no candidate would campaign.
Kindly stick to your party, Rossell, we’ll do just fine with ours.
Prior to 2004, the Democrats had won a plurality (meaning more than your guy) of the popular vote in three straight presidential elections.
We kinda know what we are doing.
And………….
John “Call Me Three” McCain cannot win the general.
The more I look at it, the more I think that McCain is going to stomp Obama into the ground.
As soon as it is a heads up match, the people will start to see just what a sham Obama’s empty message of hope is compared to real policy and real action.
Fleet–
If libs are “ashamed” of America, that means, by the plain meaning of words, that they are disappointed in their country, saddened and embarrassed by its recent actions. and wished it would live up to the standards they rightfully expected of it.
What’s wrong with that?
“What’s wrong with that?”
Nothing. I hope you people keep it up.
“The more I look at it, the more I think that McCain is going to stomp Obama into the ground.”
Running as Bush III when Bush II has an approval rating of 30% does not seem like a real good stratergy (deliberate spelling) but if that is what the GOP wants to do, go for it.
In fact, I ENCOURAGE them to use that approach.
If Obama can put Hillary Clinton, of all people, on the ropes, then McCain is toast! Or have you forgotten how much of Mr. Bill’s power base is behind her?
WS
Who “agreed”???
That is crap, WS.
The DNC passed down a judgement.
There was no agreement.
econ worry about your own dismal failure of a party
mccain has been in the senate for 25 years with a republican controlled congress for most of those years and 12 yrs with republican presidents — and he acts like immigration is a new problem —– he says he’s gonna fix earmarks yet he hasn’t done a damn thing about it in 25 years — his ethics reform was a joke —- and he caved to Bush in 2000 shows he can be bought and intimidated — his time has past — thanks for the memories
From RealClearPolitics.
Obama up 4.1% vs McCain with 7.5% undecided
vs Clinton, McCain is up 2.4% with 6.8% undecided.
I think the right thinking Americans are looking good!
RCP Average 01/29 – 02/16 – 43.5 47.6 7.5 Obama +4.1
RCP Average 01/29 – 02/16 – 47.1 44.7 6.8 McCain
+2.4
Rage
Hillary is still who I am pulling for.
Hillary is a horrible candidate.
Hillary is disliked by many leaders in her own party.
Hillary has the highest negative ratings of any politician of a major party who ever attempted to run for President.
Hillary sucks.
If Obama can’t beat Hillary, Obama sucks.
“The DNC passed down a judgement.”
No judgment (notice the correct spelling) from the DNC, the candidates agreed not to campaign in Florida or Michigan and agreed that there would be no delegates awarded.
End of story – hold a new primary or statewide caucuses.
“Hillary sucks.”
If she did, we would have never heard of Monica Lewinsky.
“End of story – hold a new primary or statewide caucuses.”
That will not happen. You people will have to hash it out. Sucks to be you.
Democrats
Screw all of you!
Republicans can and will talk about Democrat candidates, and the Democrat Party, all we want, on this Blog and elsewhere.
Every single person who has told me to “stay out” of the Democrat Party infighting has commented on Republican infighting.
I will do what I want and say what I want. Even after Hillary tries to shut down free speech.
Hey cons?
Worry about your own sad, sorry, crazy old candidate.
Whew. I hadn’t seen Cindy McCain. I got a look at her last night. What an evil looking thing!
“If she did, we would have never heard of Monica Lewinsky.”
You are correct, ws. I’ve always said that there is something in the wedding cake. Everything changes.
Senator Clinton will beat McCain like a drum.
WS is back to his secretarial skills again.
Never met a good manager, a good executive, or a good attorney or doctor, that could spell worth a damn.
Met a lot of good spellers that could do very little else!
“I will do what I want and say what I want.”
Underwear a bit too tight today, Paul?
JR
If, at this point, Hillary does become the nominee?
Your Party is DEAD for a long time.
The Democrats can not win without the Black vote.
The smart people in your Party know this very well.
Go talk to one of them before you make yourself look stupid, again.
“WS is back to his secretarial skills again.”
Jeez, what a moron, Rossell, I use an automatic spell check program – free and easy – underlines misspelled words and offers a correction.
I kan’t spel werth a damm – but I do know how to use technology.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh……………..
WS Clark,
Stratergy is correctly spelled strategy.
heh
YOUR party is ALREADY dead Paulie.
All we need to do is bury you and yours as opposed to working with them.
WS
It is rare, on this Blog, to see a conservative or a Republican telling you libs that you have no right to comment, on our issues or candidates.
It is getting old.
Ya, you got the right to request that I shut up.
We have the right to ignore that request.
Ah, WS
There is a word that you have used at least a dozen times that you ALWAYS spell wrong.
No, I’m not telling.
lol
“Stratergy is correctly spelled strategy.”
Ah, I understand that you are humor challenged, Price, but you are also unable to read, in parenthesis (deliberate spelling) in reference to the way BUSH pronounces the word.
Dang………………………
“No, I’m not telling.”
Yes, I most likely misspell your name every time, Rossell, I have no desire to look up the correct spelling.
I’m against Obama. He thinks Republicans can be worked with.
The same Republicans that are here lying about what his wife said.
She did not say she was ashamed of America.
She said she had a reason to be proud of it.
I happen to disagree with what she is proud about. But I’m in my 40’s and I don’t remember EVER being proud of this country except from watching old history.
“We have the right to ignore that request.”
Be my guest, Paul, I just think it is hilarious that Republics are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO concerned about the fairness of the Democratic nominating process.
I wonder if they will be THAT concerned about the fairness of the actual ELECTION process?
Ah, probably not.
WS Clark,
Stratergy is correctly spelled strategy.
Comic irony or something, Nathan???
“But I’m in my 40’s and I don’t remember EVER being proud of this country except from watching old history.”
Keep it up, libs. Keep it up.
Here’s what she said.
“Let me tell you something. For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”
The fact that a woman or a black man is going to be the next President IS something that offers a glimmer of something to be proud of in America.
THAT is why Democrats will win.
Probably the last thing America could really be proud of was the Apollo program.
But since than? Nothing comes to mind.
Why do you think the word “change” has an almost magic quality?
What’s wrong with “strategery.” :D
I like “nucular”! :)
Rage,
The few times I have incorrectly spelled a word and even caught it before someone said anything people still say something.
Just returning the favor.
“Probably the last thing America could really be proud of was the Apollo program.”
I recall you people being against that program.
Something about the money should have been given away to the gimme crowd.
America has the resources to do great things AND do well by its people.
Kennedy and a Democratic congress gave us the Apollo program.
Johnson and a Democratic congress gave us the Great Society programs.
What have Republican Presidents and congress got us?
Oh yeah. War.
“Johnson and a Democratic congress gave us the Great Society programs”
How’s that working out for you?
AmWay must be tossing back too much Appleton Reserve:
“The democratic election is going to be stolen.”
Hey, jeenious, what do you think happened in 2000 and 2004.
Even 2006 wasn’t as much of a Democratic blow-out as it should have been. Exit polls–which showed no bias for either party–showed Dems winning by over 6 percent and they only won by 2 percent.
That lost 4 percent was election fraud, pure and simple.
“That lost 4 percent was election fraud, pure and simple.”
Oh, brother.
It’s called Nader.
It’s called losing your own state.
Pure and simple.
Actually, Fleetwood, you ignorant POS,
Johnson’s “war on poverty” worked well–as Paul Krugman wrote on Tuesday’s Op-Ed:
“Contrary to cynical legend, there actually was a large reduction in poverty over the next few years–especially among children, who saw their poverty rate fall from 23 percent in 1963 to 14 percent in 1969.”
And what is the poverty rate for children now, Fleetwood POS?
“In 2006, 17.4 percent of children in America lived below the poverty line.”
Well, that’s great. At least it wasn’t as bad as in 1963 . . . you know, the good old days . . .
Flttttwd–
Don’t try to keep up with the election fraud discussion.
It involves, you know, math and stuff.
Stick to the hateful irrelevancies you do so well . . .
you suck
Maybe you should look up the number of children in a two parent family during those “golden times”.
Maybe you should look up how many children are in one parent families now.
You think that has anything to do with anything?
Divorce probably does play into it.
Now . . . how can we stop all the conservatives (who have a higher divorce rate than liberals including the so-called “religious right”) from splitting up?
“Divorce probably does play into it.”
Divorce? That would require marriage.
Howza ’bout all the baby mammas and baby daddys.
What is the “legitimacy” rate among the poor?
When you don’t have the other 50% of an income in a household, what would you expect?
Did I get to mathy on you?
Letterman had a good night last night with what everyone will be talking about if the “Obama is too young” becomes McCain’s main campaign point:
“Septugenarian presidential candidate John McCain is, according to Letterman:
“…looks “like the old guy at the barber shop,” “a Wal-mart greeter,” “the guy who is always early for the ‘Early Bird Special’,” and “the guy at the supermarket who is confused by the automatic doors.”
I suspect McCain’s age is the “miracle” Mike Huckabee is counting on. He wouldn’t be the first evangelical to pray for “a few well-placed heart attacks,” as Pat Robertson put it when discussing the Supreme Court.
And the Arizonan is due for another cancer scare, given his previous bouts.
Oh, and democratic advocates have tape of McCain (after he gave into torture) parroting North Vietnamese agitprop after he broke as a POW.
Hey, capn!
Did I hang you up? Are you all at a loss now?
The Great Society was/is a bust.
Another plaque for me!
Obama is nothing but a big socialist with promises of more taxes for all and to change things to the worst.
Just saw on the news that James Hoffa and the Teamsters are endorsing Obama over Hillary. Now even labor is turning on Hillary.
Enough on the spelling.
j-u-d-g-e-m-e-n-t is a British spelling of our word j-u-d-g-m-e-n-t
When you don’t have the other 50% of an income in a household, what would you expect?
As I recall, in the years posted, there weren’t a lot of two income families. In fact, it was rare to find a wife who worked full time. Not saying it’s right or wrong for a wife to work, but it wasn’t the “norm” in the 60’s.
Especially, RD, in the early to mid 1960s when the “Great Society” programs were being conceived and implemented.
During the first – 8 – eight years of his elected service Obama sponsored over 820 bills.
He introduced >>>
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 – became law,
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, – became law,
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, – became law,
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.
In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record according to several Blog posters.
He’s not just a talker.
Straight from the Senate Record.
Be cool cats, just relax.
‘Bama needs not walk on water after beating Hillary’s arse. He need only be a good lookin’, McCain baiting VP.
That he will do in spades.
Details on my blog.
As I recall, in the years posted, there weren’t a lot of two income families. In fact, it was rare to find a wife who worked full time. Not saying it’s right or wrong for a wife to work, but it wasn’t the “norm” in the 60’s.
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Well, RD, your memory must be slipping. Every woman in my family, for instance, worked full time. And ask any farm wife if she worked. The bleeping wonderful 50s weren’t. Girls got knocked up, boys went to jail, women worked – usually as teachers, nurses or waitresses. I grew up in that era and I don’t recall it being so wonderful. Or so bad. Just another time in our life.
Have you all talked about this story yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY&eurl=
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/111237/880
You should see this one about Hillary and Bill Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw&feature=related
The video I watched for a minute wiseman, and they didn’t seem to have any sort of point so I turned it off.
Chas.
Posted February 20, 2008 at 6:10 pm
“During the first – 8 – eight years of his elected service Obama sponsored over 820 bills.”
What others say are the facts;
“This misleading blog piece has been proliferated throughout the internet. First of all, it compares apples to oranges. It attempts to understate Clinton’s accomplishments by citing the number of bills she authored and passed into law. And then it attempts to over-inflate Obama’s record by citing the total number of bills he sponsored (BOTH in state and federal congress).
If you look up the information for yourself (http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/110search.html) you can compare apples to apples:
- In the 109th Congress Obama sponsored 152 bills (26 were signed into law) and co-sponsored 427 (12 were signed into law). Clinton sponsored 177 (21 were signed into law) and co-sponsored 720 (19 were signed into law).
- In the 110th Congress Obama sponsored 113 (0 signed into law) and co-sponsored 375 (3 signed into law). Clinton sponsored 150 (0 signed into law) and co-sponsored 477 (4 signed into law).
- Grand Total Authored – Clinton 327 sponsored / 1197 co-sponsored vs. Obama 265 sponsored / 802 co-sponsored
- Grand Total Passed – Clinton 44 vs. Obama 41
THE FACT – During the time that Obama and Clinton were in Senate together, Clinton authored 23% more bills and co-sponsored 49% more bills. Clinton helped to pass 7% more bills than Obama. In addition, Clinton sponsored 299 bills and co-sponsored 1183 from 2001-2004 while Obama was not involved in national politics.”
Pmom, you need to watch it thru it in it entirely, two videos.
It was about Peter Paul, and how they solicited for campaign money from him, fraudulently.
Boxlock are you insinuating that Chas doesn’t do research on his asinine opinion pieces when he calls down other bloggers on a regular basis for this same thing.
I am shocked!
Won’t work Wiseman, Pmom’s attention span won’t last that long. :D
Well, well, well, looky here–looks like Mr. “Straight Talk” spent some time eight years ago getting cozy with a female lobbyist who was not his wife.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Given Cindy’s McCain’s admission to stealing drugs from the charity she ran (as well as John’s attempt to spin and cover up that fact), guess she and ol’ Straight Talk are the intemperance twins.
Ewww ya know what’s creepy?
I just got my first look at Cindy McCain last night. She is one spooky lookin’ thing.
I aint done. McCain’s pattycake playmate is a ringer for his wife?
Sheesh who cheats on his wife with someone who looks like her? What’s the point of that? Creepy!
“”"Preaching hope, inspiration, change, with no substance, no specifics, no media challenge, and media fawning, Obama is instructive of how demagogues rise to power to inflict horrors on humanity.”"”
Did you even listen to him last might? He spoke for over 45 minutes and was very specific about things he wants to do.
Obama will win in November if he beats Hillary now. No matter what the Republicans try to throw on him, nothing will stick. He will be the new “teflon president”.
Never liked those Teflon skillets, they always ended up scratched and I always wonder what teflon was doing to my gut.
Well,
Obama THINKS the Republicans are gonna throw flowers at him.
McCain would chop him to pieces in debate.
I wonder what will be dragged up in Obama’s past. I’d think it would have something to do with his time in Chicago — I believe he was tied to Jesse Jackson and his son the Congrerssman — JJ’s record in a variety of areas is not squeaky clean. Lots of ways to get into political trouble in Chicago — could be his albatross
J R,
Totally disagree. Totally and completely, in fact. Verbally, McCain is no match for Obama. Obama will have McCain foaming at the mouth and ranting in minutes. And when McCain’s intemperance gets the better of him, as it often does, he’s just a nasty old man.
John McCain: he’s only ten in dog years!
“McCain would chop him to pieces in debate.”
All Barack (or Hillary) would have to do is ask McCain directly what are the differences between McCain and Bush II and why would Americans want Bush III.
Then stand back and watch McCain’s head explode.
McCain couldn’t debate his way out of a parking ticket with a hundred dollar bill in his hand.
You forget.
Obama thinks you can play nice with these people.
And look at the debate between Obama and Senator Clinton!
Obama took that Wal mart shot and Hillary fired a cannon back at him.
JR,
Obama will have McCain beside himself, tied up in knots. Mark my words.
Hey no one MADE Obama call the GOP the “party of ideas”. And no one was pulling a string in his back when he extolled Ronald Reagan.
And that picture up top. This all we ever see.
I want to see him snarl when he talks about Republicans. And if he is not up to it?
Well I have other options.
JR,
Fair enough. But I must say, tonight’s NYT dethroning of the Straight-Up bullshitter from Arizona has been a long, long, long time coming. McCain has the integrity of a reptile–and the skin. I look forward to his bloodying at the hands of a formerly fawning media.
“Osama Bin Laden, Osama Obama, Osama…”
– Senator Kennedy
:D
Well, RD, your memory must be slipping.
No, Dennis, not at all. I wasn’t confining my memory to my own experience. My mother worked also. And you’re right about the careers women who did work were locked into. Farm wives are a completely different story, and if you think I don’t have experience in that, you’re sadly mistaken.
There were career women, and some women chose to work, for a variety of reasons. But most women who could chose to stay out of the workforce and raise their families. It’s possible your view is different from mine because you’re not female. The change occured in the 70’s. I’m sure you remember the “You’ve come a long way, baby”, ads. Or maybe not. Things have changed. The pendulum has swung from people assuming women stayed home to people assuming a woman didn’t. “What? You’re a housewife?” We seem to be swinging more to the middle now. And that much is my opinion from my own experience.
ksgrm
Posted February 20, 2008 at 8:26 pm | Permalink
Boxlock are you insinuating that Chas doesn’t do research on his asinine opinion pieces when he calls down other bloggers on a regular basis for this same thing. I am shocked!
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And yet another LIE Granny!!! You just cant stop the lying can you??? You have this obsession for lying!! I dont understand it… I posted it right in my piece…
READ MY SOURCE, Granny!!!! And then retract your stupid post upthread!! WENCH!!!
“Straight from the Senate Record.”
IMHO — Just an opinion — The Republicans seem to now be running on fear, that just maybe Hillary wont be the Democratic Candidate… They have all figured they could BEAT Hillary, and that they would run against her, by running against Bill… but NOW….
Obama is beating the socks off of Hillary!! ALL OVER the place… NOW the Republicans look at McCain, and they look at Obama, and they cant stand what they see!!
Obama can out talk, and out think McCain any day of the week!! Obama has a Senate record to run on against McCain… McCain is hooked on the disastrous Iraq War…
NOW the Republicans are terribly afraid that they wont be able to beat Obama!! And after all the energy, and effort, and lying they have done against Hillary… and apparently all for nothing!!
Be very afraid Republicans!! You got a most formidable candidate to run against!!
But, good luck trying!! Should make an interesting year!!
what nobody is going to even TOUCH the video of the guy who says he engaged in sex with Obama and bought drugs WHILE in the Illinois House?
I want to see what the lie detector says.
By the way, I don’t really believe the story, but why isn’t anyone talking about it? That’s the part that irks me. We can discuss all the petty bs in the Media that comes out of Hillary, but they won’t touch Obama.
Fair? I dont’ think so.
That should be interesting to follow up on, PMama… I have my own hunches. But still, it should be very interesting!!
“what nobody is going to even TOUCH the video of the guy who says he engaged in sex with Obama and bought drugs WHILE in the Illinois House?”
HUH?
This needs a link and NOW.
Before the nominating process is over.
Up above JR, I posted two links.
Wouldn’t KFG freak out if it ended up being true. LOL JK KFG, I just know how you are angry with Obama on his LGBT stance.
Chas Posted’
“And yet another LIE Granny!!! You just cant stop the lying can you??? You have this obsession for lying!! I dont understand it… I posted it right in my piece…
READ MY SOURCE, Granny!!!! And then retract your stupid post upthread!! WENCH!!!
“Straight from the Senate Record.””
ksgrm, notice he doesn’t actually give the source location to check, he just says it’s an accurate source.
Boxie — you start raving lunatic… THE SENATE RECORD is an extremely accurate source!!
It is easily accessible… Furthermore, it is a public document!! It doesnt need a Link… It already has a citation!! IDIOT!!
FLAMER!! TROLL!!
PMama… I could be wrong on this, but I thought Obama was a member of the Illinois State Senate, not the Illinois House… I wont say for sure, but that was my recollection… See, one of my daughter’s had been in touch with his Illinois legislative office at one point… And I thought I remembered her sending me a copy of the letter he sent to her… as Sen. Obama…
Just thought I would mention that… And, again, I could be wrong…
I am sorry I did not click your link before political mama.
This will need to be fully vetted.
I have said all along that I had an uneasy feeling about Obama.
Wow…look at that everybody!!!
Chas is going into spontaneous combustion!
What an infantile lack of self-control. But….we all knew that.
Still, he just states where he gets it, doesn’t provide the link and expects everybody to go along as if he doesn’t have a history of being….well how shall I term it….full of shit.
Perhaps he said when he was Running for the House. IIRC, Obama did run for the House seat.
Chas, you ignorant slut
http://www.senate.gov Try that… then click on the Senate Record… ANTI, Boxie…. That should be easy even for you ignorant A$$Holes!!! FLAMERS!!!
IF you two loonie tunes cant figure out how to get to the Senate web site, then you are probably too darned stupid to vote!! But, you have the right to vote… as unfortunate as that might seem!!
PMama — it should be fairly easy to find out if Obama was in the Illinois House, or the Senate… Maybe try his web site for a Bio sketch??
I hope the bit*h losses. Her and BJ Bill are a waste of skin and if she wins, maybe someone will invite her to Dallas.
She is childish and throws tantrums. She is a fraud and no world leader will take her seriously. She will get nastier as Obama pulls away and when he becomes president she will fight him on each and every bill because she is spiteful.
Stick a fork in the pig…she’s done
Michelle Obama would be a disgrace to the white house. Like you said Michelle lived in luxury and all of a sudden she is proud of her country. She was not proud of her country before. She got her wealth somewhere. Obama did not write anything. He copies everything and makes everyone thinks he is smart. We need someone like Hillary in the whitehouse that has the bains. She knows what she is doing. GO HILLARY you are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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