Morris right to be cautious

morrissteve.jpgTo his credit, Senate President Steve Morris (in photo), R-Hugoton, is expressing caution about proposed crackdowns on illegal immigrants and businesses. Getting tough on those who forge documents and pay employees in cash to dodge the law is appropriate, he said in a Hutchinson News article. But “I don’t think we need a law in place that is punitive, that punishes everyone for the sins of the few,” he said. He also said: “I think the feds have a big responsibility to step up to the plate and take care of it.”

17 Comments

  1. Taz
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    So, since the feds refuse to do anything, we are just supposed to sit back and watch while our FREE public education is being given to people who have no legal right to be here? Sit around, waiting, while emergency rooms are crowded by non-English speaking people who figured out that they don’t need insurance since ER’s are required to accept anyone that shows up?

    We are supposed to sit on our hands and wait while Catholic Charities and Salvation Army have to expend scarce resources hiring translators for the huge influx of “needy” people who have absolutely no legal right to be in this country?

    And we are supposed to be cautious, patiently waiting while these people who have no driver’s license or insurance and cannot read street signs, cause serious injury and sometimes fatal accidents?

    NO THANK YOU. It is time for our state government to step up to the plate and hand out the NOT WELCOME sign to illegals. Enough is enough.

  2. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    Heh, who wants to bet this has to do with the democrats proposing to crack down on employers?

    And you know where Hugoton is, right? Southwest KS, where the feedyards and packing plants employ lots of folks with questionable legal status.

    I bet stevie would support a crackdown on workers, but on those who employ illegals? Eh, not so much.

    What a surprise…

  3. Dennis
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Hugoton is surrounded by feed lots; National Beef is 40 miles away in Liberal.

    You can bet Morris doesn’t worry about the workers, legal and illegal. They don’t contribute bucks to keep him in office, the owners of the feed lots and National Beef do.

  4. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Yep Dennis. As usual, you are correct!

  5. Tony
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Whats the old saying, Follow the money?

    Oh and dont forget the Golden Rule…

    Thoes with the gold make the rules.

  6. parkay
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    We are in a global war against terrorism, terrorists who train boys and mentally disabled women and anyone else they can control to kill us in large numbers. National security is everyone’s business, and the vital interest of our local and state governments, as well as the FBI and Homeland Security. Immigration laws and border security must be enforced everywhere in America, or terrorists will make us all pay a real penalty for carelessness, as they have for years already.

  7. RS
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Be sure and watch the news tonite. Peggy Palmer along with several outstanding legislators had a news conference today in Topeka explaining the “Kansas Illegal Immigration Reform Act”.

    What a turnout from grassroots supporters who are trying to make some sense of our failure to enforce our laws.

    Standing room only!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. RS
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Contact your State Representatives and State Senators to urge them to support and vote for SB 458 as well as upcoming House bills by Rep. Lance Kinzer and Rep. Brenda Landwehr. You will find contact info for all Kansas legislators at the following websites:

    Kansas House of Representativeswww.kslegislature.org/legsrv-senate/searchSenate.do
    Kansas Senate: http://www.kslegislature.org/legsrv-senate/searchSenate.do

    If you need help finding your State Representative or State Senator, then visit this link for help:

    //www.ipsr.ku.edu/ksdata/vote/

    “The Kansas Illegal Immigration Relief Act” (SB 458) will provide effective solutions for the problems that result from the:

    · Employment of illegal aliens

    Requires public and private employers to use the E-verify program to verify legal status of
    potential new employees and imposes penalties for businesses that knowingly hire illegal aliens.

    · Consumption of public benefits by illegal aliens

    Prohibits illegal aliens from receiving state services and benefits. In Executive Order
    No. 06-371 issued August 24, 2006, Governor Sebelius clearly set forth this important
    public policy objective.

    This will establish a unified and easily understandable process for verification of lawful
    presence by those seeking public benefits.

    · Lack of cooperation between local law enforcement agencies and the US Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement

    Encourages and allows all state and local authorities to enforce federal immigration laws.
    Further, law enforcement agencies shall inquire into citizenship and immigration status of
    an arrested person.

    · Lack of employment identity fraud laws.

    Creates a new crime of employment identity fraud. The penalty is severity level 8,
    non-person felony.

    · Lack of laws regarding identity theft in Kansas Driver’s License Laws

    Requires the Division of Motor Vehicles to require any person applying for a Kansas
    driver’s license who provides documents of citizenship to sign an affidavit swearing to
    legal citizenship. Falsely swearing is a federal crime.

    Requires that no driver’s license or state-issued identification be issued to any alien until the
    he/she has been verified to be lawfully present in the United States by the United States
    Department of Homeland Security.

    Why the “Kansas Illegal Immigration Relief Act” Is Needed NOW!

    The problems and burden of 90,000 Illegal Aliens in Kansas are tangible and severe.
    Consider these facts:

    Costs of Illegal Aliens in Kansas: $250 Million annually

    Health Crisis:

    Hidden costs of health care and Medicaid related to treatment of uninsured masses,
    Emergency rooms overburdened, increase in disease due to non-immunized individuals (e.g., tuberculosis), lack of childhood immunizations, treatment of non-insured work-related injuries

    Financial Crisis:

    Legal taxpayers bear entire burden for social services rendered to illegal aliens,
    Loss of tax revenues due to underground economy,
    Undercutting/suppression of wages due to employment of cheaper labor reducing number of jobs available to legal residents,
    Costs related to increased crime including identity theft (a $50 Million industry in the U.S),
    abuses related to underground culture, drug trafficking, increase in financial losses/insurance claims due to gang-related crimes,
    Increased burden on jails and prisons due to incarceration,
    Increased costs related to public education

    Public Safety Crisis:

    Increase in communicable diseases, public health and environmental issues related to sub-standard and overcrowded living conditions,
    Increase in traffic accidents and injuries involving uninsured, undocumented drivers,
    Unprotected border invites increased gang activity and potential terrorist attacks. Illegal Aliens come into our country. Kansas is currently providing a cover and a culture in which terrorists can hide with a reliable means of entry.

    Humanitarian Crisis:

    Human smugglers extort, exploit, and abuse families and individuals who have paid to be illegally smuggled into U.S. Even if they survive the trip across the border, they are forced to lead fearful, underground lives without legitimate recourse or the appeal processes available to legal residents. They are often at the mercy of their extortioners and trapped in an underground slave labor market.

    WE are rewarding those who have committed the crime of illegally entering our state, using forged documents and committing identity fraud.

    WE are ignoring the exploitation and inhumane treatment of illegal aliens
    and ignoring the underground slave labor market by pretending that they are here legally or that it doesn’t matter.

    We must resist the instinct to let sentiment overpower common sense and the Rule of Law.
    The compassionate response is to make sure that everyone here in Kansas is here legally!

    We must not be deterred by the rhetoric of those who benefit from and exploit illegal aliens; their comments are without merit and used to advance their own agendas and their own financial gain to the detriment of Kansas taxpayers and exploited illegal aliens.

    We must stay focused on the security and protection of our Kansas Citizens.

    When you look at the cost to our education system, our social services system, our health care system, our prison and jail system, our law enforcement system, you are looking at hundreds of millions of dollars draining the public purse because we have not addressed this problem.

    These public services were created with the tax dollars of legal Kansas citizens to improve the lives of legal Kansas citizens.

    While Kansans are expending increased tax dollars dealing with these problems,
    they are also competing with illegal aliens for Kansas jobs.
    If the Economy declines, more legal Kansas citizens will be out of work,
    and they will need the jobs currently held by illegal aliens. They need them even now.

    Illegal immigration shifts the cost of labor from the employer to government (taxpayers)
    State and local taxpayers are forced to foot the bill.

    The existing gaps in the Kansas laws create an attraction and incentives for illegal
    aliens to come to Kansas.

    Illegals are counted in the census which allocates representation and gives additional seats in the state assemblies and in the Congress, which in turn gives California and other sanctuary states disproportionate representation.

    All of these points serve to illustrate that illegal immigration is unfair to both legal Kansas
    citizens and to the illegal aliens.
    We must stop the public benefits and jobs incentives that serve to entice illegals to our state. Senate Bill 458 will address these issues.

    The only people who should be nervous about this bill are employers who hire illegals at a
    cheap rate to gain an unfair advantage over their competitors. These employers exploit their illegal employees by paying low wages and providing no benefits. Employers pass these costs
    to taxpayers.

    Illegal aliens avoid paying taxes, avoid paying for health insurance by using emergency rooms, and are counted in the uninsured Kansas citizens.

    Kansas is becoming a Sanctuary for illegal aliens. Surrounding states are enacting tough laws to protect their citizens; these laws will encourage even more illegals to flock to Kansas.

    California has sanctuary cities that are impacting:
    CA State Budget deficit: $14 Billion and counting after spending increased by 44% to fund the CA welfare system,
    Health Care Funding: $14 Billion plan to cover the uninsured, mostly illegal immigrants and their children.
    Hospital Closings: Due to mandated and unfunded health care for illegal aliens has forced closure of 86 emergency rooms and trauma care facilities in California.
    Housing inflation: Illegals have been encouraged to buy homes that they cannot afford, thus artificially inflating the prices. The housing crunch brings to light how illegals are really impacting our economy and housing.
    Prison overcrowding
    Highway congestion

    We need to take control of this problem now and adopt SB 458 to address these issues in Kansas!

    We need to dispel the belief that cheap labor is good and helps everybody.

    We need to inform people that we are all paying the price for their subsidized labor and contributing to the exploitation of illegal aliens.

    We must welcome, respect, and encourage those immigrants who have come into this country and state legally, but those who break the law must not be rewarded with the benefits and privileges reserved for legal citizens!

    Act now to show your support!

  9. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    For whatever this may be worth: immigration laws are the province of the federal government. The preemption doctrine, it seems to me, would result in any state law addressing illegal immigration being found to be preempted by the federal law, and thus unenforceable.

  10. RS
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    sb 458 enhances the current federal immigration. I provides addtional requirements for driver’s lisensees, Allows state and local law enforcement to enforce federl immigration law. Requires using the e-verify system to screen new employees to determine elgibiliy, Makes Idenity theft a felony.

    Basically it give us the right to enforce the laws our federal government has chosen not to enforce.

    A nation who chooses to not enforce it’s laws will soon find it CAN’T enforce it’s laws.

  11. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    RS, I understand your position about “enhancing” the federal law. I still believe that federal law will preempt any state law on the topic.

    BTW, with that said, the employer sanctions could well stand.

  12. Republic
    Posted February 7, 2008 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    RS, thanks for all your work on this.
    I think I found a post by you, at least it looked like the one above with the Senate Committee members and emails on it and I wrote each individually urging support of SB 458 and the others.
    Thanks,

  13. killerpizza
    Posted February 8, 2008 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    We are supposed to sit on our hands and wait while Catholic Charities

    who do you think is the biggest smuggler of illegal immigrants??

    the catholic has safe houses in te*as to help bring them in.

    i guess 10% of a weeks wage in mexico isn’t worth as much as 10% of a weeks wage in the us.

    same thing after viet nam.
    the promise was… if we get you into the us you have to join the catholic church.

    oh… and you have to vote no on a ca*ino issue…ok?

    ok.
    welcome to america… !!
    ———————————–
    Sorry, your comment has been rejected because it contains one or more of the following words: ca*ino, te*as.

    Please try posting your comment again, but without these words.
    ————————————

    lol oops… l*l.

  14. sotheysaid
    Posted February 8, 2008 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Az. Illegal-Immigrant Hiring Law UpheldBy PAUL DAVENPORT and JACQUES BILLEAUD Associated Press WritersPHOENIX (AP) – A federal judge on Thursday upheld an Arizona law that prohibits businesses from knowingly hiring illegal immigrants and yanks the businesses licenses of those that do. U.S. District Judge Neil Wake’s ruling was a defeat to employers who argued the law was an unconstitutional attempt by a state to regulate immigration, traditionally the federal government’s responsibility.Wake rejected arguments by business groups that federal immigration law severely restricts Arizona’s ability to punish people who knowingly employ illegal immigrants.So much for the comments about federal law being the last word.

  15. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted February 8, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Hmm, looks like I was right about employers’ sanctions standing, at least in Arizona. I note that the question before the court was only, as stated in the AP piece, the employer sanctions. I’d predict that if the said law delved into sanctions against the illegal aliens themselves, the outcome might be different, again on a preemption basis.

  16. mrbill
    Posted February 8, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Morris is full of it. We are coming for them and coming big time. I just went over the new law and added some new items to make it as harsh and punitive as possible.

    The new Kansas version is based on the new Oklahoma one that just went into affect. It is being modeled around the country as a starting place and it has been upheld in all the court cases so far.

    Tulsa has seen a drop in population of over 25, 000 so far. But guess where they likely went….yep, likely here and Texas. The best thing is that the local law enforcement can obtain Section 287g training to get the Gang issue under control by deporting gang members immediately.

    The employers are getting their little houses in order to address who is working there. All they need do is confirm all SS numbers through the E-VERIFY system put in place by the government.

    Just saw some other states are now seizing homes of the Employer if they have illegals employed. Why, because the homes are seen as being “Ill Gotten Gains” the same as Drug sales and property. The gov. takes it as it was obtained thru illegal activities.

    So you business owners out there better tidy up and quickly. Your wife will NOT like to be out of a home if she lives on the East side…not many shelters over there Im guessing.

  17. RS
    Posted February 19, 2008 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    I have seen first hand the Cultures accompanying ILLEGAL, UNCONTROLLED immigration.

    I lived in Garden City for almost 7 years abd worked near 5 points.This was within 1 block of a large “housing complex”, 8-10 blocks from 2-3 of the most dangerous nightclubs in town, next door to the GC alternative school, two block from an elementary school that had at least 2 ESL classes for each English language class. (I was on the Advisory council for this school the first 3 years I was there. I have seen the culture that grows when you have multiple families and individuals renting a house.

    I think I have had a pretty realistic view of what the “unintended Consequences” this abrupt and UNINVITED culture change brings. I strongly feel that we are at a crossroads that we must stand up and take action before it is too late. Peggy Palmer has had the backbone to fight this fight. As Americans and Kansans we owe her our support

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