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Jerry Moran is correct of course and the people I talk with over coffee understand this. But why is Jerry Moran pointing this out now when his myopic fellow Congressmen think the people of the U.S. don’t understand this and will throw them another vote.

China thanks us, of course, for the increase in our interest payments to them for their huge proportion of the nine trillion dollar U.S. National Debt.

Yep. Even here, on this blog filled with people who hate taxes, I havent heard too many say this is a good idea.

And this is the second major vote that Moran has bucked the party on, no? Didnt he buck them on the Medicare Part D vote too?

Maybe he feels the shift in the wind.

troll-boy, the only reason YOU think it is a good idea is because your lord and savior, bush, wants it. As a member of the Democratic Party (what you and others describe as the “party of socialism”), I think this is a STUPID idea as well. bush is suggesting the Congress borrow money from the Chinese to supposedly “jump start” an economy that that is heading south due to the malfeasance of bush and the party that controlled Congress (the Republics) throughout the majority of the years of National Disgrace (2001-2009).

Apophis, it does make me wonder if they have already booked their flights out of the country?
Only a fool would be around after this crashes the country even farther.

Bankrupting this country is never funny.

The party of fiscal resposibility is no longer the Republics.

Rep. Moran listens to the common voter.

We could all use a represenative who does this.

Everyone knows that giving everyone $300 by going further in dept is not a stimulus of any LASTING value.

Okay, okay . . . enough already. Congress and the prez have declared this country needs a stimulus package to undo the effects of over seven years of the bush doctrine, which says, “Hey, it ain’t MY money.”

The only thing is, congress failed to see that the stimulus package is nothing but a further extension of the bush doctrine. Reminds me of the “whose on first” shtick. And someone, somewhere, is still saying, “Hey, these elected officials sure are smart.” I’ll also bet those same people attend snake charming school every sunday.

Moran votes along party lines far too often for my taste, but once in awhile, he’ll pull one I am not expecting. This is one of those times. I’m quite pleased he chose not to vote for it. I truly just don’t understand why they keep putting us further in debt.

OMG!!!

MOTHER!!!!!

Heheheh. The return of the Queen! All hail Mother.

I’m playing some blues right now!

Uh Pedant? I thought you lived in Virginia?

And I think numbers 2 and 3 are optional. Witness brownback and ol’ rubber stamp.

“The business of our nation goes forward. These United States are confronted with an economic affliction of great proportions. We suffer from the longest and one of the worst sustained inflations in our national history. It distorts our economic decisions, penalizes thrift, and crushes the struggling young and the fixed-income elderly alike. It threatens to shatter the lives of millions of our people.

Idle industries have cast workers into unemployment, human misery, and personal indignity. Those who do work are denied a fair return for their labor by a tax system which penalizes successful achievement and keeps us from maintaining full productivity.

But great as our tax burden is, it has not kept pace with public spending. For decades we have piled deficit upon deficit, mortgaging our future and our children’s future for the temporary convenience of the present. To continue this long trend is to guarantee tremendous social, cultural, political, and economic upheavals.

You and I, as individuals, can, by borrowing, live beyond our means, but for only a limited period of time. Why, then, should we think that collectively, as a nation, we’re not bound by that same limitation? We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow. And let there be no misunderstanding: We are going to begin to act, beginning today.

The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several decades. They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but they will go away. They will go away because we as Americans have the capacity now, as we’ve had in the past, to do whatever needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion of freedom.

In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we’ve been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price.”

This wasn’t taken from a recent speech but from the inaugural speech of Ronald Reagan in 1981. Today I say we do have this same problem and as long as we set here divided and complain along party lines we are still part of the problem. When we start looking at the man or woman we are putting in power whether it is congress, the senate or as the prez – by their attitude on cutting government spending and addressing the deficit then we have started to look at the problem with a view to solving it.

The deficit isn’t new, gov hands outs aren’t new – politicians depend on our votes to stay in DC. Until we say enough to them, and vote the big spenders out of power it isn’t going to improve.

What I’ve read on this thread is people from all sides and political views knowing full well that the stimulus package isn’t a solution or a good decision. Count up how many of us have agreed with Moran when we disagree often on other subjects. Why can WE THE PEOPLE understand and agree that spending must be cut and still refuse to UNelect the people who are doing what we disapprove?

“I occasionally get up on Sunday morning and pine for Kansas.”

Pedant, I am always glad to see when you check in! I also appreciate it when you include views and news from your new home state. Good to see you! Come back often.

It was great finally meeting you grm, how did the Grandson like the Caucus? LOL I promised Hank not to make a scene. Besides with all the noise those Huckabee supporters were making you could hardly hear the Paul supporters! Man don’t you just love the words of the “great communicator”, (I know I know guys its libel to get boring listening to two people having a love fest over President Reagan)? And what you said,

ksgrm
Posted February 10, 2008 at 12:26 pm | \l “comment-291088″
Linda we can’t change the past but we can change the future. It is in our power to look for the candidates in both parties that we agree with most. It may mean that we vote for someone who opposes our pet issue but someone we agree with on fiscal policies.
Just my thoughts. This speech was after 4 years of Carter and we were in a horrible position. It took change. I will vote democratic if it means policy changes that will affect the deficit problem and excess spending.

Spoken like a OKIE democrat,, ah I mean a Kansas republican! Hee!

Huckabee wants a Constitutional Amendment to ban gay marriage and one to ban abortion……………

How about a Constitutional Amendment to require pay as you go and balancing the flippin’ budget?

These folks need to grow the flip up and act like grown ups.

Four percent of the adult American population is gay. Abortions are at their lowest levels in decades and what do the Republicans focus on?

Abortion and gay marriage.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh…………….

It is a good time to be an American and there is much work for the adults to do in order to clean up after what the children are leaving us. We’re up to the job and the Democratic Party candidate will get ‘er done! Look at who is motivated, excited, enthusiastic and in what numbers!!

But let’s make sure we don’t rest on any laurels, or get overly confident! It is too important to stop working or take our eye off the goal of this November!

Right after the Carter presidency we had Reagan and Bush 1 come in and make an even bigger mess of our economy! The last time a balanced budget was even presented was during the Clinton presidency. bushco don’t even pretend to spend our money with an eye to responsibility! They are too busy trying to be a one-world power to pay attention to Americans.

bushco really have been the very best ambassador the Democratic Party could ever have had!

WS it will always come back to states rights. Or it should. I still say social issues don’t belong in a national election whether you are for or against them. Too many fiscal issues to bring this up now. Why are you?

WS I have yet to hear this brought by Huck or McCain. It is only brought up by those who tell us who is against something such as you. Dobson is not running for public office. Let me know if I have missed something.