Even the 27 percent of Americans who, according to a recent CBS News survey, approve of President Bush’s job performance should be concerned that millions of his administration’s e-mails are missing. The Presidential Records Act requires the White House to preserve its records, including e-mails. But testimony in a House hearing this week told of how, despite repeated warnings by technology experts and National Archives officials, the Bush administration installed a system for backing up e-mails that was “primitive†and had serious security flaws. Did it do so out of incompetence or to intentionally hide information? Unfortunately, that’s not an unreasonable question, given that former White House adviser Karl Rove and several other officials also used e-mail accounts at the Republican National Committee in an apparent attempt to circumvent record-keeping laws.
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“Did it do so out of incompetence or to intentionally hide information?”
Do you really have to ask?
Impeach the whole lot of them. Where do I sign the petition?
Where is the rage? Really?
Who cares what the Communist Broadcasting System has to say.
“Who cares what the Communist Broadcasting System has to say”.
“They ain’t gonna talk about my criminal “communist” that way”, said SSITL
We’ve discuss this before and it was shown that the Clinton WhiteHouse, especially “I invented the Internet Al Gore” lost email because of ignoring warnings about backups.
Clinton White House “Lost” Emails Too
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/clinton-white-house-lost-emails-too
“Case in point: Media darling Bill Clinton. It was Judicial Watch that discovered that Clinton White House emails disappeared during his administration. In fact, thousands of messages, including those from the office of Vice President Al Gore, were not properly recorded to begin with and are irretrievable.
Sheryl Hall, the Clinton White House computer expert who alerted us about this scandal, deserves kudos for bravely coming forward. Also brave was Clinton administration contractor whistleblower, Betty Lambuth, who discovered in 1998 that about 100,000 emails had not been preserved by a back-up system that was designed to store them in a single, searchable database.
It turns out the so-called backup system was missing mail from about 500 White House officials. Top Clinton White House officials used threats and intimidation to keep this scandal, including court testimony documents, from going public. These threats also kept the problem from being fixed and resulted in more lost emails. “
Who care ?????!!
And with Clinton, we were more interested in convicting a head job. These criminals, Clinton and Bush need put in prison. THEY SOLD US ALL OUT. Just because you vote with an “R”, you ain’t special to these people.
Please…. everybody knows that Bush and Cheney are both criminals. These guys make Nixon look good. And some people want to give them more power to spy on American citizens.
Can’t you see the “bait and switch”? the diversions? We watch Clinton sexscapades while they fug our country. But wasn’t it great tv?
Everybody knows? Then we need to get impeachment hearings going NOW, TODAY.
Only about 3000 days bush admin can’ account for! They should have used Hotmail.com!
Must be recycling day.
Bush incompetent or evil, history will prove he’s both.
Time for a ‘best industry practice’ statement from the WH!
The Tower of Babel is being built!!!
“Even the 27 percent of Americans who, according to a recent CBS News survey, approve of President Bush’s job performance should be concerned that millions of his administration’s e-mails are missing. ”
Well they SHOULD be. But they won’t be. See those folks that still support bush? Well they are divided between crooks and morons themselves.
In part it is both the secrecy of the Administration and also their tendency to operate mainly by “shooting from the hip”.
It is hilarious when their strongest defense is their incredible incompetance. And BTW Regular - Al Gore NEVER claimed to have invented the internet. You are fully aware of that and that you are simply parroting a rightie lie.
I approve of Bush, he cares for this country and wants to protect us from muslims. Their deleting their e-mails because it’s a case of national security. Everyday they stop a muslim from blowing crap all to pieces here at home.
I think Bush should recieve the purple heart.
Did he get “combat wounded”? heh.
Cheney is evil, he sold out his lesbo daughter and went against same sex marriage.
True Ben, but it’s a convenient hook. :)
There’s nothing the Wingnuts won’t countenance, is here? Lie, cheat, steal–and the only response is that Democrats are angry because they didn’t think to do such things first.
If your Democrats are separate from the cons, why aren’t we seeing impeachment hearings? Because there IS NO DIFFERENCE. Pelosi already took impeachment “off the table”.
What skeletons does she have to hide that might get out?
I want this house of cards tumbling now.
Pleefer,
While I do, of course, support impeachment hearings, you need to think a little more clearly about what you just said: the fact that Democrats HAVE NOT instituted impeachment hearings when such are warranted, whereas Republicans DID institute them when they were NOT warranted, is PRECISELY the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Republicans will do anything to GET power, while the current Democratic “leadership” will not do anything WITH the power it possesses.
The quote was from CBS (Communist Broadcasting System) they noted for twisting any truth to suit liberal loosers.
“I think Bush should recieve the purple heart.”
I think he should recieve a swift kick in the ass.
Pleefer, CF2K - I would also point out that although an impeachment trial would be great theater that is all it would be. The Republics in the Senate would block it. Unfortunately the numbers are just not there.
NOTHING concerns the bush supporters.
Their motto is “what, me worry?”
Besides, Congress has BASEBALL to investigate, dammit!
They cant be bothered with bush and cheney!
“Republicans DID institute them when they were NOT warranted”
Impeachment hearings were not warranted for Bill? If you or I would have done what he did we would have gone to jail. He lied to a grand jury, that is p-e-j-u-r-y.
If Bush has done something impeachable then they should do the same, but I guess they have not found anything. Just because you don’t like him does not mean there is enough to impeach.
Let it go, Slick Willy actually got punished for doing something wrong. There will be a new pres. in less than a year anyway…
“Republicans DID institute them when they were NOT warranted”
Impeachment hearings were not warranted for Bill? If you or I would have done what he did we would have gone to jail. He lied to a grand jury, that is p-e-j-u-r-y.
If Bush has done something impeachable then they should do the same, but I guess they have not found anything. Just because you don’t like him does not mean there is enough to impeach.
Let it go, There will be a new pres. in less than a year anyway…
27 percent approval for Bush?
Hardly.
That was last month’s poll.
The latest poll has him down to 19 percent, lower than any American president since polling started.
Worst. President. Ever. is truly Worst. President. Ever.
At least, history will remember him for something.
Hey Graffitti Troll–
“liberal loosers.”
How much of a loser do you have to be to misspell loser?
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW WEEEEEEEEEEE! EOOOOOOOOW!
The evil president and vice president, the dastardly duo strike again! Let’s run em up a tree and hang em, for their trespasses! Lynch em!
Let’s all post: Worst President Ever (WPE)!
Why let’s impeach them both! not.
[yawn!]
Ya got nothing. At worst - administrative incompetence.
And how about our democrat controlled congress?
Congress approval rating?
AP-Ipsos 22%
Gallup 23%
This is a “significant” gain!
In Sept/Oct 2007 a paltry 11 percent gave Congress a positive grade, worst rating EVER!
Worst. Congress. Ever. is truly Worst. Congress. Ever.
At least, history will remember them for something.
I wonder where the 19% comes from?
Not that it matters, other than for accuracies sake, but this link summarizes the various presidential approval rating polls shows consistently in the lower 30s.
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
AmWay is just stupudd enuf to beleve anething.
administrative incompetence…who are the administrators?
The Bushco Administration?
Does George Bush live on a different planet?
Today’s Headlines:
Bush: US is not headed into recession
WASHINGTON - President Bush said Thursday that the country is not headed into a recession and, despite expressing concern about slowing economic growth, rejected for now any additional stimulus efforts. “We’ve acted robustly,” he said.
Economy slows to near crawl
WASHINGTON - The economy skidded to a near halt in the final quarter of last year, clobbered by dual slumps in housing and credit that caused people and businesses to spend and invest more sparingly.
Nixon had his blank tapes; are there other parallels?
Lost FBI files?
Former national security adviser Samuel “Sandy” Berger is under criminal investigation by the Justice Department over allegations that he took secret documents from the National Archives while reviewing Clinton administration records for the 9/11 commission.
The former Clinton staffer stuffed them in his clothes, his pants, and even his socks…….
MediaMatters.c
Yeah, and Berger should indicted. But everyone is covering everyone else. They’ve all got shit to hide and money to make.
Hahahaha, now Bush is the Black Knight in “The…Holy Grail”, “tis merely a flesh wound”. dolt.
And did Hillary and Bill ever decide to release the documents from their presidential archives, to include tax records?
Does George Bush live on a different planet?
Today’s Headlines:
Bush: US is not headed into recession
-RD
Does anyone actually expect Bush to predict a recession? I would take a politicians word about the economy with a grain of salt. worthless. However, we know it will alwasy be positive no matter what the indicators say.
Missing FBI Files Should Concern Even Clinton Fans!
Where the H*ll was THAT headline 10 years ago?
Hillary had the files the whole time, but couldn’t find them. Right.
But Max! Hillary was the UNelected president!
She had every RIGHT to confidential and highly personal FBI files.
Holding FBI files is one of the “roles” a first lady should perform.
One of the worst things any leader can do is to put fear in the markets with such an announcement.
The Great Historical Debate of the New Millenium will be was George W. Bush really that incompetent or was he as evil as the public thought?
Historians will be the judge.
“Does George Bush live on a different planet?”
Yep - he’s still searching for those darned WMDs!
You mean the posters on the WEBlog don’t get to decide?
No AmWay.
Historians decide. THEY are the EXPERTS.
The PEOPLE are too stupid.
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Watch my stopwatch swing from the chain…
Hope.
Change.
Hope.
Change.
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Clinton and her FBI files….
Clinton is about as relevent now as GW Bush.
Time for Obama now.
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Watch my stopwatch swing from the chain…
Hope.
Change.
Hope.
Change.
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Funny how none of the defenders of the current administration want to deal with this subject. So much for “rule of law”, huh?
And just for you, regular: you can’t blame Clinton for something he didn’t know about!
“WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Clinton administration official who oversees the troubled White House e-mail system testified Wednesday he never told President Clinton about the computer problem that prevented thousands of White House e-mails from being properly stored and archived.”
archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/23/wh.email/
As for the Bush administration, well let’s see:
The White House “lost” roughly five million emails from 2003 to 2005, according to a report (.pdf) yesterday by watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).
The report relies on two unnamed sources to arrive at the estimated figure, which refers to emails on White House servers. The Bush administration has already fessed up to losing emails about key political deliberations that took place on outside accounts. Critics believe outside emails were used to avoid scrutiny and an obvious paper trail in discussing the firings of eight U.S. Attorneys.
CREW says that Bush did away with a key piece of technology Clinton used to preserve internal emails. Called the Automated Records Management System (ARMS), it automatically stores all correspondence.Even so, some 246,000 Clinton emails were lost. This snafu gave the current administration an excuse to discontinue ARMS and, in 2006, kill a project designed to replace it, leaving behind a storage system that looked positively stone-age, according to the report:
“The only email retention process in use by the White House consists of extracting email messages from the email system and saving them in large, undifferentiated files on a file server.”
The Bush administration apparently knew the system was flawed but did nothing. End result: five million emails lost. According to CREW, this is a massive violation of the Presidential Records Act, which requires the president to preserve records of all “activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies.” The law was put in place in 1978 after a battle with Nixon over keeping records.
blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/04/white_house_mis_1.html
http://www.citizensforethics.org/files/041207WithoutATraceFullReport.pdf
Yeah sure Daves, Clinton or Gore never knew about the email problem (wink,wink)
Lot of Clintonians fell on their swords to save Bill and Billary. One more lie by omission is not surprising.
Fine, lets prosecute Both of them, ok?
And by “Both” I mean Clinton and Bush.
Go for it.
http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/
ebruary 20, 2008
Concerns over Economy Push
George W. Bush’s Overall Job Approval to New Low
George W. Bush’s overall job approval rating has dropped to a new low in American Research Group polling as 78% of Americans say that the national economy is getting worse according to the latest survey from the American Research Group.
Among all Americans, 19% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 77% disapprove. When it comes to Bush’s handling of the economy, 14% approve and 79% disapprove.
Among Americans registered to vote, 18% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 78% disapprove. When it comes to the way Bush is handling the economy, 15% of registered voters approve of the way Bush is handling the economy and 79% disapprove.
A total of 78% of Americans say the national economy is getting worse and 47% say the national economy is in a recession. A total of 42% of Americans, however, say they believe the national economy will be better a year from now, which is the highest level for this question in the past year. This optimism does not spread to improvements in household financial situations as 17% of Americans say they expect their household financial situations to be better a year from now, which is the lowest for this question in the past year.
The results presented here are based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews conducted among a nationwide random sample of adults 18 years and older. The interviews were completed February 16 through 19, 2008. The theoretical margin of error for the total sample is plus or minus 2.6 percentage points, 95% of the time, on questions where opinion is evenly split.
Overall, 19% of Americans say that they approve of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president, 77% disapprove, and 4% are undecided.
Trying real hard to find something about emails in that post Annie Moose, just can’t find it. Did you leave it out?
CLINTON! CLINTON! CLINTON!
LOOK OVER THERE! I THINK BILL MIGHT BE FEELING SOMEONE UP!
BTW, if was also previously discussed as to how inadvertent and relatively insignificant the Clinton WH losses were compared to the full-scale destruction of evidence by the current regime.
The Clinton administration was also the first to use modern internet email, accessible even to the public (albeit with canned responses). That Rove & company chose to scrap that in favor of “primitive” technology comes as absolutely no surprise.
Of course, we’ve seen previous emails go missing in Republican administrations. Remember Ollie North’s famous PROFS notes in the Iran-Contra scandal? Gee, who knew those tech geeks made backups? Ooops!
The “loss” of emails by this administration. which they are required to keep by law, cannot be explained, in the 21st century, as anything that the wilful criminal spree it plainly is.
Add it to the list.
Hillary had a lot of missing file problems as well. :)
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5 mil. emails deliberately lost, this admin. has no equal.
Fine, lets prosecute Both of them, ok?
What charges? Can you bother to write them up specifically. Or are you just spouting off.
“One of the worst things any leader can do is to put fear in the markets with such an announcement”.
No a true leader would be forthright with his countrymen, tell them the facts, admit he fuched up and warn his people to prepare. Bush is far, very far from a real leader.
“CLINTON! CLINTON! CLINTON!
“LOOK OVER THERE! I THINK BILL MIGHT BE FEELING SOMEONE UP!”
Exactly.
It’s pathetic.
Look!! The SKY is falling!! Its true because Max says it is true…
Max’s second cousin Suzy’s ex brother in law, told Max, that the Feds are coming to take his guns!! The SKY is falling!!
Max says it is true!! And Max knows, because a biological entity from the Andromeda Galaxy, told him it is… therefore it must be true!!
They are trying to disarm us. Little by little. I dare em try what they did in New Orleans on a grander scale though. We “gun nuts” saw the videos and we watched the news with those people getting their guns confiscated. And like what was to be expected, only the bad guys had them. Did you see the vid of the old lady getting tackled? Why? Because her home wasn’t flooded, she had plenty of food and she had a little habdgun. She was beat up by cops because she was self-sufficient.
…a little handgun…
The Bush regime break the law to hide the truth about their fascist regime? There’s a shock. Maybe if more facts got out Bush’s 19% approval rating might slide even further.
“The Bush regime break the law to hide the truth about their fascist regime?”
pelosi and reid disagree.
It really amazes me how the Bushettes on the blog can point, with a straight face, at Clinton, both Bill and Hillary, losing emails and files, as if their doing so vindicates Bush. “There ain’t no life nowhere”, Jimmy.
Maybe the Bushettes perverse obsession with the Clinton’s is because Bill was able to get a BJ, and Bush is only able to give them.
American Way
Posted February 28, 2008 at 9:38 am | Permalink
Ya got nothing. At worst - administrative incompetence.
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Pfffffft. A trifle.
:lol:
Bush supporters: lowering the standards for POTUS since 2001.
Just think of all the fun things the Dems can do when they run things. Bushco has set new WH tradition. We’ll always have him/them to thank. ;)
Over the last seven years, the President and the rest of Government have given themselves extraordinary powers. Let’s see how the Cons like it when the Libs put that power to use…as in the shoe is on the other foot.
Ohhhh yesssss….lobotomies for Republicans…it’s the LAW!
Thank-you Weblog for giving the fanatical libs here another post to hate on.
Been a long day. Still no posts of actual charges.
Ya got nothin’.
But it’s been fun watching you whine all day!
His crimes will all come out in the wash soon enough. Right now, he can pass the buck to anyone and he does.
Ditto, RD.
President Obama can tell Congress to stuff the subpeonas where the sun don’t shine.
“You have questions? Too bad . . . if we have to answer them the terrorists have won.”
What we’ve learned from Bush–the president doesn’t have to obey the law, the president is the law.
Thanks for teaching us that, ‘Pukes.
Enjoy reaping what you’ve sown . . .
Regular, if you stand on your soap box and complain about how the other guy misused the system then don’t get caught doing the same thing. If you are so outraged about B. Clinton the where is your outrage about Bush for doing the same thing. If you think B. Clinton broke then what about Bush. Bush knew the problem existed and did nothing to solve it. What does that make him, a bigger crook or just a stupid republican?
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