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I’m not surprised. After all, that RR has strong roots in Kansas, witnessed by our battle over Evolution v. Creationism.

But it will be interesting come November, or even in July(?) when we learn just who will be the Republican nods for Pres and VP.

Democrats traditionally outnumber Republicans in caucus, this is nothing new.

Perhaps Democrats are thinking in terms of the popular vote yet once again that will win the election. :D (shoots electoral college arrow)

From cjonline.com:
U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., urged caucus participants to consider McCain’s conservative voting record on abortion, defense and other issues. Brownback said McCain, a U.S. senator from Arizona who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, would be the first president since Dwight Eisenhower to have extensive military credentials.

“We’re at war and we’re going to be at war for a generation,” Brownback said.

Now, that’s a heartwarming thought.

* John McCain carried Bob Dole’s caucus site in Russell County, and tied in a nearby caucus site in Trego County.

* Ron Paul beat John McCain at three caucus sites: Brown County (16.8%), Gray County (12.1%), and Pottawatomie County (28.4%)

* Saline County had 38% of the ballots cast for Rudy Giuliani, with more votes (13) than Johnson County (10).

Pictures from Sedgwick County’s Caucus:
http://nataliespianostudio.com/blog/2008/02/09/kansas-gop-caucus-report/

If McCain does not want a floor fight —

Final caucus numbers from Kansas-

Democratic turnout on February 5th: 37,089

Republican turnout today: 20,009

LOL

It shows Kansas Republicans are extremist.

Paul, Only speaking for myself but I would have preferred driving to Butler County on a clear Saturday morning to the much-closer drive last Tuesday evening. And, after the caucus I wouldn’t have minded cleaning sunshine from my car. But, I would have driven all the way to Butler County in the dark and in a blizzard if that is what it took to get there. It really is that important to me! I am sad, worried, embarrased by what bushco has done to our country. I’m even worried about what additional harm can be done in the next months. I’m not trying to be argumentative when I tell you this has been the worst I’ve ever seen in my sixty years.

On the Florida and Michigan delegates — I’m bothered by that situation. My first hope is those delegates aren’t needed for a clear-cut decision on the nominee. If that doesn’t happen, I hope it’s done in an above board way that considers the votes of those Democrats who went to the polls in those states. I’m also bothered by the whole “Super Delegates” stuff. I really need to do some research on both situations as I don’t understand them well enough.

Florida and Michigan were quite rightly treated when they moved their primaries up.

The race to be first was getting out of control. At least the Dems addressed it. If it were to keep up, we could be primaring for the next candidate years in advance of the next election!

But Florida and Michigan must NOT be entirely denied a voice.

Some have called for new primaries. That’s the best solution. For at least this year, it gives Florida and Michigan even MORE power than if they had been counted earlier.

But failing that, the delegates MUST be seated.

There are a whole bunch of us who are hopeful — no mater who we “stood for” last Tuesday! Let’s guard against being overly confident. We must not ever rest on any laurels. This is way too important!

I am supprised that Ron Paul did as well as he did…

What amazes me is what the word “Conservative” means today! Without the word “Social” in front of it, it hardly describes today’s definition of the word! It certainly doesn’t mean what it did not too many years ago!

JR — Kansas was at least prtly blue when we had Slattery in the House, Carlin in Governor’s ofice, and Glickman in DC with Slattery… We also had Joan Finney as Treasurer, and for many years, George Docking was Governor… Kansas has had its moments!! Not recently, but we have had them!!

PMom-

It’s far from over. Hillary has a mission far greater and more important than Obama’s. I believe she will succeed.

Nice mom. You are a great example. Of intolerance.

Consider how lost the Republicans are.

Huckabee is winning today. But just YESTERDAY, the Republican Governor of Texas called Huckabee and asked him to quit!

We do NOT have to work with these people as Obama asks us to. We can run over them just like they have run over America these last many years.

It appears there is a non violent revolution underway! People want their old America, and its values back.

Senator Roberts needs to sweat a few bullets :-)

We’re at war and we’re going to be at war for a generation,” Brownback said.

Now, that’s a heartwarming thought. mr.contreversy
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We’ll be in Iraq for at least 10 more years, the Democrats will call a withdrawal, while they keep a substantial number of troops there. It will sound like we withdrawn from Iraq, but we will still be there for a long time with a lot of troops. We’re not gonna leave Iraq and let it be taken over by another dictator, or worse yet an islamo fascist. It will be a long time before Iraq can take care of their selves. Thats the cost of underestimating such an under taking.

You already are a caricature outlander.

The not rich man who votes Republican. The “pro life” zealot who opposes health care for kids.

What is it that is broken in you?

I don’t see you as I portray the evil Republican above outlander.

You just are way late figuring things out.

Slattery and Finney
Good PROLIFE Democrats, lol

Hey, Econ–

Have you started chawing tobaccy and handling snakes at church?

How are you going to fit in with your fellow Republicans?

Hillary Clinton’s postions are much more conservative than Obama’s positions, on the issues.

Hillary takes far more money from Business PAC’s than does Obama.

Again, JR, Obama should be your guy, based on issues.

There has to be something else that drives you, since the issues don’t justify your vote.

Oh, yah, you told us: Obama doesnt want to destroy Republicans, or something to that effect.

Well, Hillary works with Republicans all the time.

I will laugh very hard, should Hillary get elected.

She has already said that she intends to garnish your wages, since you refuse to buy your own health insurance.

That will be funny!

Capn
The truth is, I am Catholic and you are a bit bigoted, in your reference to Evangelicals.

The Democrat Webpage actually cautions Democrats, when calling into talk radio shows, by telling them that talk radio listeners are:

Smarter than average Americans
Make more money than average Americans
Have more education than average Americans.

The same can be said of Conservative Christians.

Trying to lump people into stereo-typical categories doesnt work very well.

I am sure that I could find a tobacco chewing snake handler who likes Hillary. What, in the world, would that prove?

Yeah paulie?

Tend your own party. I don’t take suggestions from you on who to vote for.

Actually, I DO take you suggestions into consideration and do exactly the opposite.

November is gonna be a nasty time for you paulie. I am so looking forward to it!

And I also think that Hillary Clinton, should she win out against Barack Obmama, will be the better for it.

AmWay probably couldn’t get the convoluted rules and regulations about how far in advance he had to register and how many pieces and what types of ID he needed to have to register for the RepubliCON caucus.

So he had to go as an “observer.”

I love it.

I guess as the saying goes that ever small victory is still a victory! I heard that about some really meaningless occurrence in Iraq recently. Its not sour grapes just facing the reality of unless the Democratic nominates does something that totally turns the country against them Oh like invading a country that did nothing to us…I know now stop that snickering! The GOP candidate has no chance of winning in Nov.
Quite a few Republicans are facing that reality so why go to the Caucus?

I went for Ron Paul, did I think he would win not really but its like has been pointed out about any close race. “Every vote may count”, how would I have felt after all my support for him if he had lost by one vote? And as my friend KFG has pointed out ( If I was a woman I would kiss you lady! I would still kiss you between friends.) my intent is to try and save the party from within and in a bigger effect save the country too. You can find it hard to believe but Republicans are not monsters! In the claim clear light of day they can talk without bias and often make perfect sense. As you maybe aware of, before the Caucus Ksgrm, Hank and myself met for breakfast. None of us were born with silver spoons in our mouths and me being me I would not have a silver spoon since the regular old metal ones work just as good! All of us were born into working families and if we have anything it is because of simple work. All have fallen flat on our faces and pick ourselves up having to start over again. Often its a matter of choices in life whether you have something or not. And yes choice! If you find you don’t see any you make them for yourself that’s part of the wonder of the United States. As a good man said, (and I paraphrase) “ with a roofing hammer and a ladder no one is out of work. You can find the work actually comes to you!”. That’s not saying that a Democrat is not a working person, I have known too many for that to be true (again look at my friend KFG). I would wage that when Democrats come together they too have similar stories of successes and failures, of falling flat only to have to pick themselves up. It the human story and has nothing what so ever to do with a party affiliation.

But there is two ways to look at someone having something you do not. Either you can complain that life just isn’t fair and they must have done something wrong else you would have it too. Or you can say to yourself that you can have it too if you really want it. Hell people on welfare look at my house and want to give me money! But its because I have chosen this life not that I can not have better( I still play the lottery, maybe I puts some wheels on this here Place!).

Back to my point, I see the Party partisanship as having more destructive power to this country then Bin Laden with a couple of Nukes. For the Democrats good on ya, you guys are seeing a light at the end of the road and are excited. You have every right to be and it is a natural thing it seems as both party have a tendency to destroy their runs in power. It is just your turn in the barrel till the country has enough and votes the Republicans back in. I will let you in on a secret, both parties tend to have a crappy element to them and it would be better all around if we think of America first instead of a party affiliation. Yes it can be hard to do with all this back and forth and the hateful words that seem to never stop. Who started it first? That is like who started the shooting first. When everyone is dead that does not even matter? But sadly by that time a lot of good people have been harmed. OK Chas its your turn on the soap box…

“So he had to go as an “observer.”
I love it.”

CapnAmerica, you need to get a life. Why attack me personally?

If you would take the time to read what I have posted over the last month, you would know I deliberately voted for Obama. I had to register as a democrat (I posted I almost puked). I knew full well that 25 January was the last date to be registered as a republican to vote today. I gave that up. Why? If you read my previous posts you would know why. Laugh all you want. I did the same while speaking on behalf of Obama.

Writer Dog: Could you please let me know if Huckleberry had a designated speaker at your caucus location?

It is difficult for anyone not established as left to get a point across here (without being flamed).

But I am curious if my observations hold true throughout Kansas.

Thank-you.

I would wager

Oh, to heck with it, mine was at the WSU Metroplex.

Didn’t see you give any speeches . . .

“will let you in on a secret, both parties tend to have a crappy element to them and it would be better all around if we think of America first instead of a party affiliation.”

Damn WriterDog, sounds an awful lot like my previous posts over time, that those in power want us on two teams (like football). That is how they stay in power and keep us divided. I’ve also posted that I don’t think we are all “evil” and we are not all “religious right”.

Capn America, I prefer to keep my personal life, well personal. If you go back and read my posts, I am very interested and directly involved in Kansas politic’s. I am very concerned where the “red” is going and am excited to pass on state house news – regardless of party affiliation.

I am honest in my posts. WE may be 180 degrees in opposition, but I have no reason to falsely post.

Admittedly, I am also quick to temper and flaming. But some of that can be attributed to my personal background.

But I do not HATE or “lump” liberals into one mold and I do not believe you are “evil”.

This is why we need a primary. One voice one vote.

They would’nt be so quick to screw with the election then.

This kind of behavior needs to be reported to the DNC.

Political Momma, I am torn in my stand on the caucus/primary format.

I liked the idea of individual speakers. The chance for individual citizens to speak. The chance for trying to move people from one corner of the room to the other.

I also got tired of standing. Tired of waiting in line. Tired of the BS from the republican county chairperson in today’s event.

But on the other hand – one million dollars to allow us ALL to go into a booth and vote, is a very SMALL price to me for democracy. Get in and get out. We spend millions/billions on other programs. One million seems a small price.

But, having observed both: I think I witnessed more democracy in action with the caucus.

Painfull. Time consuming. And tolerance of listening to others opinions.

It would have been much quicker for my wife and I to drive to the polling place and get our voting done. But I would not have received any input or ideas, different from my own.

“Capn America, I prefer to keep my personal life, well personal.”

BULLSH*T, Regular-AmWay.

You’re all the time crowing about how much money you make, what kind of expensive scotch you’re drinking, how much more successful you are than everybody else.

I guess “my paid-off house and two paid-off cars” isn’t personal . . .

Typical Regular post–first you attack, and when you get attacked in response, you go for the outraged pity.

That’s what you get for your side Writer, and like a good little boy, you keep putting up with it.

MOM I do not exactly put up with it, at times yes I feel somewhat alone but I know I am not. Its just being handled in different ways, the rest of the Moderates, Liberals as now we are called. Can be either just not voting, be a swing voter or in some cases change party.
LOL I have to admit though life did seem easier when I was surrounded by OKie Democrats. Though I did disagree with them on the abortion issue, I tend to be grudgingly Pro-Choice. While they did seem more pro-life, but then I was a Elephant in a pack of Donkeys! Some moderates are finding their voices and speaking out I just seem more vocal about it. Some of what you may call the extreme right are not happy about it too. But this partisanship is often forcing them into a corner and they end up defending rather then explaining.

I respect you writerdog.

But I cannot understand you.

How is it that you as a working person votes with the party of your boss? And you don’t just vote for it. You embrace your own servitude. Why?

A democratic President would bring a union to your work place. You would not have to beg for fair treatment or wages. They would be your right.

I respect very much your Libertarian ideals. But you must ask yourself, is success or economic liberty DEPENDANT on reporting to a boss? And if it is, does it make any difference if that boss is a state functionary or a corporate drone mid manager?

I weigh with the state. There, I get a vote.

I can vote out the boss.

But on your line of thinking, I’ve no choice but to do as the private boss says I must. Well that or starve.

Freedom must be to ALL or it is to none writerdog. I don’t know why it is you do not understand that.

“And if it is, does it make any difference if that boss is a state functionary or a corporate drone mid managerI weigh with the state. There, I get a vote.”

The above views are those of Karl Marx, Lenin, and the now defunct Communist Party.
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Saddly, they are now the beliefs of the American Democratic Party.

WEBLOG EDITORS: Please set J R on the straight and narrow.

Why he chooses to attack another poster, and make personal attacks – I have not a clue.

Send him a personal email (I know he emails you) and let him know I am not whom he claims I am.
Please tell him to limit his posts to opinions/counter opinions on the issues.

Wichita Eagle & Beacon Publishing Co: Please stop this nonsense.

That’s nice J R. I now have email on you.

Hopefully, your 13 year old son is home tonight, and you are going to get a job with good wages to be able to afford health insurance for him.

Our children’s welfare should be of paramount concern for all of us. It was for me and I am thankful I could provide for them, until they married and became independent and contributing citizens.

In a real sense JR we all work for someone, whether it be for a company, yourself or your family. If you do not like working for a “boss” you start your own business, but then you are really working for those that use your business either a customer or your employees.
Someone is depending on you to do something that at any moment you would not rather do. In a sense the company works for me, I require payment for my serves else they do not get them. I require they provide me with the proper equipment else I do not do my job for them. I required them to provide health insurance else I am not going to be healthy enough to do my work. I work for my wife as she depends on me to provide assistance with the house payment, putting food on the table and clothing.

I understand where you are coming from, here is where I am. That company in order for them to work for me needs to survive and prosper. Else they fail and can not give me what I want. If I do not want to own the company they need to own it for me.
This is something often over looked in a Capitalist society, if you want to be a business you have to have employees and by your paying them they are now a customer of your business. If not directly then through the expansion of their money throughout the economy. True the Boeing employee is not buying a 767 but his wages go to a business and that business either flies on that 767 that Boeing makes or passed along the money to some one down the road who does.

When an employer either cuts the buying power of the employee or lays them off. He is cutting into his own income or profit. Since that employee’s salary is where the employer’s money is coming from. That is the problem with the thought process of shipping jobs over seas and downsizing here. They are actually cutting into their profits while doing it. In the end it will be that company that suffers for the lost of jobs.

What I support is not the company as much as my own best interests. I use to be a real wind mill tilter in my younger days till I finally figured out that the only thing I was receiving was a bloody forehead for my attacking those windmills. I still do to an extent as often my opinion is quite clear.

None of it really matters, “Regular” –

I’m pretty confident you post under a number of sockpuppet nics. But do I care?

Nah. There may very well be others as stupid and ignorant as you. Perhaps they’re just trying to achieve your level of idiocy and simply sound like you.

Huckabee winning told be that the religious right is behind him, not McCain. I think they are afraid that McCain won’t appoint judges to the Supreme Court that will over turn R v W.

It’s hard to undermine a life that has already been foolishly forfeited.