Comments on: Either way, Democrats will make history

By: black,

black, — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:10:23 +0000

[...] also sold some 35 million GPS devices and are looking to offer a new array of lowww.atmasphere.netEither way, Democrats will make historyEither way, Democrats will make history Posted6:00 a.m. Each endorsement of Barack Obama by a woman [...]

By: Eddy boy

Eddy boy — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:30:36 +0000

To vote for someone because of their race, religion, sex, or something like that is as prejudiced as not voting for that person for the same reasons. The road goes both ways. Prejudice will never die when we still see in color. Shame on the “71 year old constituent” who says she is voting for Obama because he is black. She is prejudiced in reverse but still very much a bigot. How can we ever overcome this attitude? I do not have the answer. Maybe its impossible.

By: Political_mama

Political_mama — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:02:58 +0000

I agree Angry. Whether they are black or female should really not matter. But until both are voted into the highest office, it will. When I go vote this year, I will be proud to vote either for the first woman president, or the first black president. I find that inspirational in of itself. However, I also find it MOST important to vote for the BEST candidate.

It’s almost as if that woman who said she listened to the old woman at the headlining post, never heard someone say “I’ll vote for a WOMAN before I die”. Wonder if I called her and said that if she’d change her endorsement.

By: AngrySar

AngrySar — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:38:56 +0000

The mark of a colorblind society will be when we see differences but don’t act, speak, or think on them accordingly. Those that bring attention to them are racist themselves, for they are continuing the hate and the divide. Look around… you’ll see it.

By: AngrySar

AngrySar — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:33:36 +0000

Each endorsement of Barack Obama by a woman raises questions about why she chose him over Hillary Clinton

What. A. Stupid. Statement. *sigh* Aren’t we all adults to the point that it shouldn’t MATTER if you’re black, white, man, woman, religious or not… anything except where a candidate stands on their POLICIES? And IMHO, the party system has gotten the same way. Democrat hates Republican. Republican hates Democrat. Makes me glad I’m Unaffiliated, I can vote for who makes the most sense without worrying about labels. Sad that we have become such a labeling society; nothing in life is that black or white but the colors themselves.

By: rfl

rfl — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:17:15 +0000

Woops, sorry about the double post! My Bad!

By: rfl

rfl — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:16:46 +0000

Cheer Up everyone. In 4 years, the winning candidate will either be good/neutral for the country or be a complete failure. If your candidated doesn’t make it, hope for failure! If that doesn’t happen, well you got yourself a decent President.

By: rfl

rfl — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:10:57 +0000

Cheer up everyone! 4 Years time and either the next President will be shown to be good/neutral for the country or be a failure. Failure is good if you support the opposing party of previous election winner.

So, just hang in there and prepare for 2012 by hoping for complete failure if your candidate doesn’t make it. Worst case scenario is the candidate you loathed so badly, actually turns out to be a decent President!

By: Political_mama

Political_mama — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:59:33 +0000

Both parties, I’m sad to say.

By: WSClark

WSClark — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:35:52 +0000

And if the Republics win in November, God forbid, they will also make history – electing an old senile man that fails to realize that his hero/mentor has an approval rating of thirty percent.

He has to be senile to be running as Bush III.

I wonder if he’s gonna change his name?

By: Taz

Taz — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:28:55 +0000

PM…and there are also people who say they will vote for him–because he is black. Sad, isn’t it? Of course, if he doesn’t win all the way, Sharpton and his ilk will be screaming he lost because of his skin color–you can bet on that.

By: rfl

rfl — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:27:00 +0000

Political_Mama,

Are these democrats who you have overheard saying that they won’t voting for Obama because he is black? One would think so given that only democrats have had a chance to vote for or against him so far.

By: Political_mama

Political_mama — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:12:53 +0000

God believe me, racism is still alive and well in America. I’ve heard so many say they won’t vote for him because he is black, or they think they’re being more PC to say “I don’t think America is ready for a black president”. These statements infuriate me. No race is not why I”m voting against Obama. I’d gladly vote for him in a few years when his record is more set.

By: Taz

Taz — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:53:44 +0000

kfg…your ’straw man’ mantra is getting a little old. Here is a simple question for you…did anyone complain about the number of dem/lib posts on the recent McClain topic (that recorded well over 200 posts)? If not…what is the difference? These are national issues that will affect us all in November. Party affiliation or lack thereof does not bestow special qualifications to comment on national issues.

By: ksfarmgrrl

ksfarmgrrl — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:36:31 +0000

There is no rule. But it is interesting that you all seem far more interested than the real democrats. I dont see anyone disputing that observation. Touchy today?

Nice try at changing the subject and attacking the straw man.

By: Taz

Taz — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:26:58 +0000

grl….I am soooo sorry. I didn’t see the rule that only Dems can post about Democratic Party issues. So, does that mean that no democrats can post about republican issues?

so, where does that leave us independents? Are we not ‘allowed’ to post anywhere?

By: littlejohn

littlejohn — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:26:43 +0000

No strategy on my part. I remain a Republican, but bsically in name only. I have never given money or time to the party. I support candidates. I have generally found it easier to support the Republican candidate instead of the one put forth by the Democratic Party–hence my affiliation. . I have contributed time and money to candidates, but never to the party. This year, the apparent Republican party nominee will get neither. I may vote for him, maybe. But only as stated previously.

By: ksfarmgrrl

ksfarmgrrl — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:19:16 +0000

I just love how these threads about the Democratic nominee are dominated by republicans. heheheh.

Is it a strategy on the part of the GOP?

Links to a story from NPR

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×4530130

By: Taz

Taz — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:35:10 +0000

and…just where did that woman say she was thankful she could vote for a black man who is well qualified and a good leader? Do you have special insight into her thoughts that the rest of us mere mortals are not privy to?

By: Taz

Taz — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:33:58 +0000

Capn…you are really spinning in your self made fantasy, aren’t you? Reg and I are two different people. I know it is very difficult to believe that more than one person on the planet might disagree with you, but <> it is true.

Repeating your fantasy 50 times is not going to make it true.

By: littlejohn

littlejohn — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:29:34 +0000

that neither race nor is the barrier that it once was.

should be:

that neither race nor sex is the barrier that it once was.

By: littlejohn

littlejohn — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:05:41 +0000

sotheysaid-

That is exactly my point. Race or sex should have nothing to do with how someone votes. However, by virtue of the fact that SOMEONE black and SOMEONE female has gained national attention and support should encourage many other people that they too can be succesful in politics, that neither race nor is the barrier that it once was.

By: sotheysaid

sotheysaid — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:55:40 +0000

Why should race or sex have anything to do with it.It should be about the person with the right ideas and the ability to carry them out. It should be a person that has the backbone to be tough when they need to be.It is sad to see people saying they are voting for a person just because of their race or they are a women.
Oletha Faust-Goudeau wants to be a state senator and she has no better reason than one person called her and supported him because he is black? How shallow can you get?

By: littlejohn

littlejohn — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:52:58 +0000

I am pretty sure that this election will make history. Actually, it already has, in the fact that the Democratic party nomination process is so closely contested…….between a woman and a black man…… something that has never happened before.
I believe that whicher wins the nomination will win the election. Another history making momemt. For good or for bad. Good in that it will inspire many more Americans to run for office, regardless of race or gender. Bad, in that I like the politics of neither. I should say the policies of one, and the politics of the other. Either way,
one of the two will be President.
The Republican party has neutered itself with their accepted candidates. McCain is a joke, a sad one. I salute his war service, I salute his often rogue status as a Republican by not taking the straight party line,, but not a candidate I can support with any comfort. His part in the McCain Feingold disaster, and his stance on illegal immmigration and immigrants, has shown him to be what I cannot support.His thoughts on continuing the Iraq conflict is unsupportable. There are other issues that he and I disagree with, and all together, I find him politically expedeient, and without merit. If Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will, for the first time in my life, vote for a Democrat for President. If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I will hold my nose and vote for McCain. They are two peas in a pod, and I barely like McCain over Hillary, but McCain wins by a small margin.

By: rfl

rfl — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:49:54 +0000

CaPn,

You may not be voting for Obama based on race, but let me point you back to the quote included in the intro of this thread:

“I know there is a God. I’m going to get to vote for a black man for president before I die.”

And you are going to try to claim that race has nothing to do with the reason this person is voting for Obama?