Each endorsement of Barack Obama by a woman raises questions about why she chose him over Hillary Clinton. State Rep. Oletha Faust-Goudeau, D-Wichita, told Harris News Service she saw both as strong candidates but was swayed to endorse Obama by a call she received from a 72-year-old constituent. “It just really moved me when he said, ‘I know there is a God. I’m going to get to vote for a black man for president before I die.’â€
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Sad. People who want to vote for a “black man” regardless of anything else. All they can see is his color, and that is a reason to vote for him?
Really pathetic reason to vote.
Can we put the idea that America is a racist country to bed now? With Obama’s popularity, we should be able accept the treatment all races equally with respect to college admissions and hiring preferences.
I believe people like Obama because he has practically no experience. He is inspirational and
he promises “change”. Sounds like the best choice to lead America for the next 4 years right?
RFL…how can we “put the idea of racism to bed” when a woman publicly comments on voting for a black man simply because he is black? Is that not a form of racism?
Could she have meant something like — “A qualified black man is a candidate for president. You know, I’ve known many black men I would have voted for and now I have the chance!”
No! Let’s read something into this (in all our wisdom) since we don’t really know what that woman meant. We can speculate, and we can stir the pot, and get a lot of hate and discontent going. Yeah! That’s the ticket!
Wow it has to really suck to be a Republican.
They are going into political oblivion for the foreseeable future, AND they have to get used to the idea that a woman or a black man will be President.
Heh heh
They must be wishing for a time machine so they could go back to a simpler era.
Like the stone age.
Taz,
True, that is racism. Historically however, the tag of being a “racist” meant you would NOT vote for someone becaue he is black. That is no longer the case. People are actually MORE likely to vote for Obama because of his skin color then vote against him for the same reason. Racism has been reversed.
With an Obama presidency, we should expect affirmative action programs go extinct.
Straw man (now called “weak opponent”)–
To distort one’s opponent’s argument and attack the distortion instead of the real argument.
That’s what Taz (Regular) did in the opening post above.
The constituent who called Faust-Godeau didn’s say “I’m voting for Obama because he’s black.” She said I’m glad I finally have the opportunity to vote for a black person (who also is a well-qualified, good leader).
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Shirley Chisolm and even Republican Alan Keyes have run for president.
If people were voting for a black just to vote for a black, they’ve had amply opportunity to do it before now.
“People are actually MORE likely to vote for Obama because of his skin color then vote against him.”
You have no evidence of that.
What? Did you take a poll?
CaPn,
You may not be voting for Obama based on race, but let me point you back to the quote included in the intro of this thread:
“I know there is a God. I’m going to get to vote for a black man for president before I die.”
And you are going to try to claim that race has nothing to do with the reason this person is voting for Obama?
I am pretty sure that this election will make history. Actually, it already has, in the fact that the Democratic party nomination process is so closely contested…….between a woman and a black man…… something that has never happened before.
I believe that whicher wins the nomination will win the election. Another history making momemt. For good or for bad. Good in that it will inspire many more Americans to run for office, regardless of race or gender. Bad, in that I like the politics of neither. I should say the policies of one, and the politics of the other. Either way,
one of the two will be President.
The Republican party has neutered itself with their accepted candidates. McCain is a joke, a sad one. I salute his war service, I salute his often rogue status as a Republican by not taking the straight party line,, but not a candidate I can support with any comfort. His part in the McCain Feingold disaster, and his stance on illegal immmigration and immigrants, has shown him to be what I cannot support.His thoughts on continuing the Iraq conflict is unsupportable. There are other issues that he and I disagree with, and all together, I find him politically expedeient, and without merit. If Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will, for the first time in my life, vote for a Democrat for President. If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I will hold my nose and vote for McCain. They are two peas in a pod, and I barely like McCain over Hillary, but McCain wins by a small margin.
Why should race or sex have anything to do with it.It should be about the person with the right ideas and the ability to carry them out. It should be a person that has the backbone to be tough when they need to be.It is sad to see people saying they are voting for a person just because of their race or they are a women.
Oletha Faust-Goudeau wants to be a state senator and she has no better reason than one person called her and supported him because he is black? How shallow can you get?
sotheysaid-
That is exactly my point. Race or sex should have nothing to do with how someone votes. However, by virtue of the fact that SOMEONE black and SOMEONE female has gained national attention and support should encourage many other people that they too can be succesful in politics, that neither race nor is the barrier that it once was.
that neither race nor is the barrier that it once was.
should be:
that neither race nor sex is the barrier that it once was.
Capn…you are really spinning in your self made fantasy, aren’t you? Reg and I are two different people. I know it is very difficult to believe that more than one person on the planet might disagree with you, but <> it is true.
Repeating your fantasy 50 times is not going to make it true.
and…just where did that woman say she was thankful she could vote for a black man who is well qualified and a good leader? Do you have special insight into her thoughts that the rest of us mere mortals are not privy to?
I just love how these threads about the Democratic nominee are dominated by republicans. heheheh.
Is it a strategy on the part of the GOP?
Links to a story from NPR
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×4530130
No strategy on my part. I remain a Republican, but bsically in name only. I have never given money or time to the party. I support candidates. I have generally found it easier to support the Republican candidate instead of the one put forth by the Democratic Party–hence my affiliation. . I have contributed time and money to candidates, but never to the party. This year, the apparent Republican party nominee will get neither. I may vote for him, maybe. But only as stated previously.
grl….I am soooo sorry. I didn’t see the rule that only Dems can post about Democratic Party issues. So, does that mean that no democrats can post about republican issues?
so, where does that leave us independents? Are we not ‘allowed’ to post anywhere?
There is no rule. But it is interesting that you all seem far more interested than the real democrats. I dont see anyone disputing that observation. Touchy today?
Nice try at changing the subject and attacking the straw man.
kfg…your ’straw man’ mantra is getting a little old. Here is a simple question for you…did anyone complain about the number of dem/lib posts on the recent McClain topic (that recorded well over 200 posts)? If not…what is the difference? These are national issues that will affect us all in November. Party affiliation or lack thereof does not bestow special qualifications to comment on national issues.
God believe me, racism is still alive and well in America. I’ve heard so many say they won’t vote for him because he is black, or they think they’re being more PC to say “I don’t think America is ready for a black president”. These statements infuriate me. No race is not why I”m voting against Obama. I’d gladly vote for him in a few years when his record is more set.
Political_Mama,
Are these democrats who you have overheard saying that they won’t voting for Obama because he is black? One would think so given that only democrats have had a chance to vote for or against him so far.
PM…and there are also people who say they will vote for him–because he is black. Sad, isn’t it? Of course, if he doesn’t win all the way, Sharpton and his ilk will be screaming he lost because of his skin color–you can bet on that.
And if the Republics win in November, God forbid, they will also make history – electing an old senile man that fails to realize that his hero/mentor has an approval rating of thirty percent.
He has to be senile to be running as Bush III.
I wonder if he’s gonna change his name?
Both parties, I’m sad to say.
Cheer up everyone! 4 Years time and either the next President will be shown to be good/neutral for the country or be a failure. Failure is good if you support the opposing party of previous election winner.
So, just hang in there and prepare for 2012 by hoping for complete failure if your candidate doesn’t make it. Worst case scenario is the candidate you loathed so badly, actually turns out to be a decent President!
Cheer Up everyone. In 4 years, the winning candidate will either be good/neutral for the country or be a complete failure. If your candidated doesn’t make it, hope for failure! If that doesn’t happen, well you got yourself a decent President.
Woops, sorry about the double post! My Bad!
Each endorsement of Barack Obama by a woman raises questions about why she chose him over Hillary Clinton
What. A. Stupid. Statement. *sigh* Aren’t we all adults to the point that it shouldn’t MATTER if you’re black, white, man, woman, religious or not… anything except where a candidate stands on their POLICIES? And IMHO, the party system has gotten the same way. Democrat hates Republican. Republican hates Democrat. Makes me glad I’m Unaffiliated, I can vote for who makes the most sense without worrying about labels. Sad that we have become such a labeling society; nothing in life is that black or white but the colors themselves.
The mark of a colorblind society will be when we see differences but don’t act, speak, or think on them accordingly. Those that bring attention to them are racist themselves, for they are continuing the hate and the divide. Look around… you’ll see it.
I agree Angry. Whether they are black or female should really not matter. But until both are voted into the highest office, it will. When I go vote this year, I will be proud to vote either for the first woman president, or the first black president. I find that inspirational in of itself. However, I also find it MOST important to vote for the BEST candidate.
It’s almost as if that woman who said she listened to the old woman at the headlining post, never heard someone say “I’ll vote for a WOMAN before I die”. Wonder if I called her and said that if she’d change her endorsement.
To vote for someone because of their race, religion, sex, or something like that is as prejudiced as not voting for that person for the same reasons. The road goes both ways. Prejudice will never die when we still see in color. Shame on the “71 year old constituent” who says she is voting for Obama because he is black. She is prejudiced in reverse but still very much a bigot. How can we ever overcome this attitude? I do not have the answer. Maybe its impossible.
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