Barack Obama’s GOP opponents capitalized on a comment that his wife made this week — though in doing so they may have reinforced Obama’s message about needing to rise above divide-and-conquer politics. Michelle Obama said during a campaign rally that “for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.â€
John McCain’s campaign dispatched his wife, Cindy, to declare that “I have, and always will be, proud of my country.†Conservative commentator Michelle Malkin accused Mrs. Obama of being self-absorbed. “What planet is she living on? Since when was now the only time the American people have ever been ‘hungry for change’?†Malkin wrote.
Barack Obama responded that people were taking the statement out of context and trying to make a big deal out it. “What she meant was, this is the first time that she’s been proud of the politics of America,†he said. “Because she’s pretty cynical about the political process, and with good reason, and she’s not alone. But she has seen large numbers of people get involved in the process, and she’s encouraged.â€
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AMAROSA!
Say what you mean; Mean what you say.
How about, much ado about nothing?
Actually, Obama should respond with “See how they are? See how eager some in this country are eager to jump on any comment to use the anti-American smear?”
Not unless she’s running for office.
Let’s lynch Billo instead.
He’s a hater, not an innovater.
I like her honesty…so refreshing than the rhetoric we’re always subjected to.
OBAMA LOOSES JOBS FOR MINORITIES
Ms. Obama, VP Chicago Hosp, that charges minorities 6 times as much, isn’t cold hearted enough; she also caused hundreds to loose their 11.hr jobs, to be more efficient she said! In 05, elected to the BOD Westchester-based TreeHouse Foods, she received $12,000 and $33,000 from a subsidiaries, in Nov announced closing its La Junta, plant, that claimed the jobs of 153 workers, most of them Hispanic! Huge blow to a rural town jobs paid a starting wage of $11hr, Company pays top execs like MICHELLE OBAMA tens of millions a year while destroying middle-class America. Raises the question not only about corporate values but about Barrack Obama’s own values. Specifically, while he bashes Wal-Mart, why does his wife, make $45,000 and up a year serving on the board of Chicago comp that pays her a very hefty amount of money while laying off mostly minority workers in economically deprived areas? No. 1 customer is Wal-Mart???
Obamas attack on middle class and minorities- The Crowns and employees of their family-run holding company have given at least $195,000 to Obama’s presidential campaign. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004 Union member say senator did little to save jobs in the blue-collar town of 37,000. Obama connection to Maytag: Lester Crown, company’s director’s records show, has raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama’s campaigns. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004.
Black voters are choosing black candidate based on skin color not merit and not what he can do to help our failing country. What a serious shame…we are giving away another election. Thank the media! Obamas speeches address just black voters. The same person who claims he is not running on race? It sure isn’t experience or who is best to run this country. Don’t believe it will work in the general election He truly had divided voters since SC win. No one is so naive as not to think that black resentment towards whites could render Senator Obama unelectable. NOW IT’S TIME FOR THE MEDIA TO SCRUTINIZE OBAMA LIKE THEY HAVE DONE TO EVERYOTHER NON-BLACK CANDIDATE. MEDIA HAS FAILED AMERICAN VOTERS
Funny how all the Obama supporters are calling Latino’s & Asians racist because they did not vote for Obama. Even though we have voted for many African-Americans who now sit in various city’s as Councilman, State Representatives, School District officials, etc.Let’s talk about the intimidation that is going on in the Latino community with some African-Americans harassing people on the phone and beating up people for not voting for Obama. Latinos vote for Hillary because we believe in her and know she will do whatever it takes to help our country get back on its feet. Create jobs, health-care plan that makes sense, economy, etc… It’s odd nobody is noting the fact that the majority of African-Americans “are” voting for Obama because he is a black candidate and not for what he can do or not do for the country. Only on his Hopes & Dreams speeches with nothing substantial being brought to the table. The sad thing is that the people who will suffer the most under Obama’s health care plan are the poorest African-Americans. As for those who are saying Hillary supporters are ignorant and don’t have a clue, let me remind you Obama will need these votes to win the nomination. Obama supporters are such mean spirited people and they have the nerve to advocate for a person who will supposedly bring unity among all parties.
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Man files Federal Lawsuit against Obama regarding GAY sexual act and drug use claims **
Larry Sinclair posted a video to YouTube claiming to have used cocaine and engaged in a gay sexual act with Obama when Obama was a state legislator in 1999. In the video, Sinclair claims he and Obama met on two separate occasions, that Obama used crack cocaine and that Sinclair performed an oral sexual act on Obama both evenings. Now Obama and company are quickly trying to quiet this man, but Sinclair has filed a federal lawsuit. Sinclair filed suit against Obama and his campaign guru David Axelrod in Minnesota district court for allegedly attempting to abridge Sinclair’s right to free speech, and for waging an intimidation campaign against him. check out the video on youtube for yourself:
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This has also been covered by The Smoking Gun but no one else.
America wants to know: where’s the media coverage on this???? We deserve to hear the truth!
[www.worldnetdaily.com] is the latest website covering the story.
Obama admitted to smoking pot and going coke in dorm rooms, talked about “getting high.and drinking alcohol and using cocaine as a high school student. So he admits to doing drugs all through school. That’s a role model or our students!WAKE UP PARENTS! Now you understand his youth support!
“LOU” gives us –
“Funny how all the Obama supporters are calling Latino’s & Asians racist…”
No, what’s funny is the absolute falsehood you use as the basis for your post.
Funny how all Republic Party affiliated posters fuc# their dogs before and after they post to WE Blog. Even the female dogs!
Well I’m not for Obama.
But what is this outrage?
No health care for the poor and the rich getting ever richer? Shameless consumption far exceeding any other nation?
I aint proud of this nation either. That a woman or a black man is going to be our next President IS a glimmer of hope.
“Lou” “Federal Lawsuit..” “Obama loses jobs..” Whoever you are, this blog is not your personal advertising spot for whoever you want to attack. Your credibility is zero and your posts are without merit.
Go back to whoever campaign headquarters you work for and try to learn a little tact.
Michelle Obama is much prettier than her husband. I would rather look at her than listen to Barak Obama. :D
Monkey, People on this blog make up stuff all the time. It hit a nerve with you today ONLY because your candiate is now the front runner. If Obama wins the presidency get used to it happening every day.
I’m more worried about Cindy’s poor English. “I have, and always will be, proud of my country.”
That sentence is a linguistic nonsense. She wanted to say: “I have BEEN, and always will be, proud of my country.” She left out the been.
Michelle Obama is extremely narcissistic. Michelle should be proud of all the black and white folks that made so many sacrifices so she could use tools like affirmative action programs to go to Princeton and become a millionaire. Those Americans that did that were there long before her husband ran for president. I am proud of every marcher, every single person who faught against racism in this country and continue to fight it today! Words matter, and the Obama campaign can not nuance what she said, it was from her heart , which is just below the huge chip on her shoulder.
For the person that said Michwlle is pretty is blind. She is ugly.
Cindi McCain is a home wrecking hussy who was sleeping with John when he was married to his first wife and a recovering drug addict that was caught and turned into the DEA for stealing drugs from the not for profit she ran. She entered into a diversion program to clean her record up. Look it up. She has about as much credibility as OJ Simpson.
“Michelle Obama said during a campaign rally that “for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country,”
Some conservative sites have edited the word “really” out of her comment. Not a good sign of things to come.
Boy, some hit and run trolls came out of the woodwork for this thread.
She wanted to say: “I have BEEN, and always will be, proud of my country.” She left out the been.
Parsers need not apply.
While I don’t care for Mrs. Obama, I certainly understood without a doubt, what she was saying. The only time in my life we could be proud of this country, was when Clinton was president, when we always took the high road when it came to other countries, and economically. I have lived through Johnson and on, and he was a disaster, as was all the republicans since then. They all together have run this country into the ground and have embarassed us world wide. As long as they can get us in a war, to keep our minds off of the real problems of the country, then they are doing their job, as far as they are concerned. And, McCain is just more of the same, as he has already stated that he will keep the troops in Iraq for another 100 yrs and has no intention of ending the war. Therefore, continuing the growth of Al Quida, and ruining our reputation world wide.
Agreed, KsAggie. Gotta admit, it gives you a smile to see just how low folk can stoop.
I can go pretty low myself, I just don’t mean it. I do it for snickers.
When ya wallow with pigs, you’re gonna get dirty. And the pigs LIKE IT!
No.
It doesn’t matter what she says. What role does a President’s wife play? White House decorater?
Oh, and it doesn’t matter if Obama blows his nose either, but he did get applause for doing that yesterday. Must have been quite a blow.
As long as they can get us in a war, to keep our minds off of the real problems of the country
Michelle, I seriously doubt the war was to take our minds off real problems. More to increase the stock value of Haliburton, Titan, CACI, etc.
What role does a President’s wife play? White House decorater?
Maybe the next pres after the retard/reprobate has his go?
Y’know, Max, that’s a scary thought. Pres Laurie Bush and her Lake Woebegone theory of education. Be AFRAID, be very, very AFRAID.
Sure Ghoti, Laura Bush is running for the Senate in New York when Hillary’s seat is vacated when Hillary is elected POTUS.
Didn’t you know that’s the normal career path for Presidents?
First Lady
Senator
President
In 2016 we’ll have Laura Bush vs Michelle Obama for President!
What she said was, “I’ve always been proud of my country, but now I’m REALLY proud . . . ”
When you see the full quote, you see there’s nothing controversial at all about it.
The usual swiftboaters are up to their usual tricks is all . . .
BTW, to you Republic shill-trolls who are desperately trying to dish dirt on Obama?
Nobody can read what you write because it’s so badly formatted.
Muddled thinking = muddled writing.
Cap’n, don’t know about the formatting, just the first couple lines informs you it’s all Bull-larkey. If anyone reads more than 2 sentences, they’re either irreversibly insane, can’t add 2+2 twice arriving at the same result, or just has so much time on their hands they’re reduced to perusing inanities for a cheap thrill.
“Barack Obama responded that people were taking the statement out of context and trying to make a big deal out it.”
Damn straight Phillip.
I would further advise you to have no more negative Obama threads until AFTER he beats Hillary.
Obama was the winner of the state your newspaper sells in, so you should focus on his strengths.
(again, at least until AFTER the convention)
Obama is a great and wonderful person. He is new blood. He brings a lack of experience which will be tried and tested against congressmen and women who have made a lifetime career out of Washington.
He will be like cold water to a thirsty soul, and those voting twice in Texas and those voting in Ohio should KNOW this.
Boy, some hit and run trolls came out of the woodwork for this thread.
This administration has taught them well. FEAR is their motto, and these “people” (using the term very loosely) are in fear, so they use it against others.
And this is what politics in the country has come to. Shameful.
T’was always the way, RD.
Sometimes, you have to stoop down to the level of your constituents. George Smathers once called Claude Pepper a “extrovert,” who had “frequently marticulated on campus,” and who had a sister who was a “known thespian.” He also accused Pepper of “engaging in celibacy before marriage,” and of being a “practicing Homo Sapien.” Smathers won in a landslide. It ain’t what you say…it’s how you say it.
http://journals.aol.com/monponsett/HighAboveCourtside/entries/2004/07/06/down-to-the-wire/368
And those of you being critical of Michelle Obama need to realize that she has exactly the same experience that Hillary Clinton had at this stage in Bill’s career.
And Michelle looks better in a sweater than Hillary Clinton did with her best wonder bra.
And Michelle looks better in a sweater than Hillary Clinton did with her best wonder bra.
What a GD sexist comment. how about for once, you aholes figure it out that it’s not about how a woman looks, it’s about substance.
And Michelle looks better in a sweater than Hillary Clinton did with her best wonder bra.
What a GD sexist comment. how about for once, you aholes figure it out that it’s not about how a woman looks, it’s about substance.
They’re not your GD eye candy
ghotiphaze, I’m sure Smathers was holding back the observation that Claude Pepper had also engaged in “fenestration” and “defenestration” and was also one who regularly engaged in “interdigitation” and “social intercourse” for the second round, if necessary, of the campaign.
“And Michelle looks better in a sweater than Hillary Clinton did with her best wonder bra.”
What a GD sexist comment. how about for once, you aholes figure it out that it’s not about how a woman looks, it’s about substance.
They’re not your GD eye candy
“They’re not your GD eye candy”
You can say that again!
“FEAR is their motto, and these “people” (using the term very loosely) are in fear, so they use it against others.”
Are you talking about Global Warming??
Just an observation. Nothing wrong with looking good. No different than the comments I’ve read here about McCain (his looks age), or his wife (looks, slut history).
It’s ALL about looks, skin color, and sex. That IS the Democrat way!
Hell you don’t talk about anything else! Beyond the fact that Barrack is black and Hillary is a girl, what else do you talk about? Their positions on the issues? Their voting record?
Hah!
Oh and Pmom, you are right.
Hillary is NOT eye candy.
Ok, Vaughn, I’ll get out the Webster’s LOL
Surgical procedure that creates a new fenestra to the cochlea in order to restore hearing lost because of osteosclerosis
Ok, I’m not surprised any longer I had no clue what that was.
8^b~~~~
The biggest round of applause for Obama came, not after he spoke about the issues, but after he BLEW HIS NOSE!
I suppose the crowd would faint if Obama farted.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102×3190845
Even blowing his nose, Obama gets applause
They’re not your GD eye candy
I agree with the Polka Masters: If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, get yourself a fat, ugly wife.
Eye candy can get stuffed.
Political Mamma must be a Hillary supporter.
“Hillary is NOT eye candy.”
Max, I almost forgot Political Mamma is a Clinton supporter. None of them are feeling very positive of late.
Capn..your revisionism is showing again. the REAL quote: (cnn.com)
Speaking in Milwaukee, Wisconsin today, would-be First Lady Michelle Obama said, “for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”
Then in Madison, she said, “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.”
Nowhere does she say what you made up. Try sticking with the facts sometimes instead of false accusations and insults.
That’s too bad Amway.
Maybe Chelsea Clinton will run in 2016. Hillary will be too old to run again after Obama finishes his 2nd term.
Well apparently it mattered what HILLARY said, when she was just the wife – afterall, she is campaigning on all that EXPERIENCE as a wife of a politician.
Guess it works both ways, doesn’t it?
Did Hillary say anything when she was First Lady?
“Maybe Chelsea Clinton will run in 2016.”
Max, that is not such a crazy idea. By that time Chelsea will have amassed almost her entire life to count as experience to be president.
Childhood under Bill = 16 years
Bills campaign = 2 years
Bill in Whitehouse = 8 years
Hillary in whitehouse = 8 years
She will be about 36 years old, but will have nearly 34 years of experience!
“Did Hillary say anything when she was First Lady?”
I think she said, “Would like sugar with your tea?”
Max I looked it up in Wikipedia.
Hillary also screached, “I want free healthcare! I want socialized medicine!” until Bill had to backslap her for nearly causing a political outcry for overstepping an unelected persons bounds.
So Bill put her in charge of securing 500 confidential FBI files on republican opponents.
I’m convinced, I won’t be voting for Michelle Obama. Since she isn’t even running for office that shouldn’t be difficult. Non-issue, moving on.
Sorry, guys, women have come into their own. Gone are the days when the Frist Lady stood smiling by her President hubby, and all the press talked about was how pretty her suit looked and how she started a trend with those cute hats. Someone finally discovered there were brains under those hats.
Of course, Eleanor Roosevelt did a bit of speaking her mind, too, both publicly and privately. Do you have a problem with that?
Time to grown up, guys.
Funny RD.
You left out LadyBird.
Did Hillary say anything when she was First Lady
She thought about doing horoscopes, but figured it was already done.
And Babs Bush. ya left her out. Then again, I think the world just passed her by.
You guys are too funny. You’re so intent on throwing mud, you don’t notice the crap you’e standing in.
Hotdog…excellent point. Hillary is claiming ‘experience’ so it DOES matter what a spouse says.
Michelle Obama Clarifies `proud’ Remark
19 hours ago
PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — The wife of Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama sought Wednesday to clarify her comment that for the first time she’s really proud of her country.
On Monday, Michelle Obama told an audience in Milwaukee that “For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country. Not just because Barack is doing well, but I think people are hungry for change.” Cindy McCain, wife of Republican presidential contender John McCain, later sought to capitalize on the remark, saying “I have, and always will be, proud of my country.”
Asked by WJAR-TV if she would like to clarify her comment, Obama replied that she has been struck by the number of people going to rallies and watching debates, as well as record voter turnouts.
“What I was clearly talking about was that I’m proud in how Americans are engaging in the political process,” she said.
“For the first time in my lifetime, I’m seeing people rolling up their sleeves in a way that I haven’t seen and really trying to figure this out — and that’s the source of pride that I was talking about,” she added.
When asked if she had always been proud of her country, she replied “absolutely” and said she and her husband would not be where they are now if not for the opportunities of America.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gF6i4iEHstfMbiVDziPEgI7m6pFAD8UUAQJG1
Let me guess, Taz, you also gave money to the Swiftboat Liars too, right?
“For the first time in my lifetime, I’m seeing people rolling up their sleeves in a way that I haven’t seen and really trying to figure this out — and that’s the source of pride that I was talking about,” she added.”
I’m rolling up the cuffs on my pants, it’s gonna get deep after while.
I expect the “Age of Aquarius” being sung by the 5th dimension with the wearing of head bands by all throwing flowers and releasing butterflies.
(chortles)
You are witnessing exactly why Obama must not be the nominee Capn.
He wants to WORK with the people dishing out this crap.
Maybe this bit will serve to wake him up and make him want to swing back.
I was referring to her original quote, not her coverup, you moron.
Reg-Pat-Tap–
Considering that you are content to do nothing all day except bother people on-line, it is not surprising that Obama’s “rolling up the sleeves and getting something done” would not appeal to you.
If Reggie died, one wonders how many days it would take before someone noticed . . .
That’s what her original quote meant, moron.
Oh, jeez, Obama lost Taz’s vote.
How can he possibly win now?
:roll:
If her stupid comment was a first for her, it would not mean much. But look into her background. She is a race-obsessed, mean-spirited leftist. She gladly accepted special treatment for college; benefitted from affirmative action, but then attacked those who helped her and then played the victim card. Read her thesis. Fortunately for her and her husband, most Americans are more interested in American Idol than the future of our country.
“Someone finally discovered there were brains under those hats.”
I hope someone discovers that the US Constitution does not provide a role in government for the wife.
Of course, if you are inventing one: then the character and comments of the potential first ladies (or husband in Billy’s case),
DO MATTER.
RD,
What is the official “role” of the president’s spouse under the law?
Michelle Obama’s brother Craig was a gifted athlete at Princeton. By her own admission in a recent Newsweek interview, she admits that as a “legacy” student and advantages given to her through affirmative action, she gained admission. Hold off on the praise for her intellect. The jury is still out on that point.
As CapN rightly points out, concerning Michelle Obama’s quote >>>>
CapnAmerica
Posted February 21, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink
What she said was, “I’ve always been proud of my country, but now I’m REALLY proud . . . ”
Ahhhh…now I get it. You can say anything you want, but then clear it up later by saying, “what I MEANT to say was…” That is how it works for anyone who Capn supports, but OMG, don’t ever let anyone he doesn’t like try that tactic.
There IS no official role of the First Lady in our government. We have had a couple of bachelor presidents. Thus, there is no official role… It is whatever the President and First Lady SAY it will be.. First Lady roles have been greatly varied.. Eleanor Roosevelt; Mrs. Wilson; Jacquie Kennedy; Lady Bird; Betty Ford; Nancy Reagan; Pat Nixon; they all had their own defined roles… Some were much more active than others!!
“…do nothing but bother people online”? Not quite..just trying to keep you honest. Impossible task, considering your outright hatred, juvenile attitude and constant repeating of lies, but what the heck, someone has to try.
Taz, just go find her REAL comment for yourself… it has nothing to do with CapN… he just posted the REAL quote… Dont take it into a personal attack… Geez!! Youre acting like a moron!!
Regular says >>>>
“I expect the “Age of Aquarius” being sung by the 5th dimension with the wearing of head bands by all throwing flowers and releasing butterflies.”
Hey, bring it on!! Sounds terrific!! And if you are going to San Francisco, be sure to wear a flower in your hair (not much hair left, but…)
Taz
Posted February 21, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink
“…do nothing but bother people online”? Not quite..just trying to keep you honest. Impossible task, considering your outright hatred, juvenile attitude and constant repeating of lies, but what the heck, someone has to try.
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The comment was addressed to Regular… Taz responds… Is Taz — in so posting — admitting to be Regular?? LOL It COULD look that way…. Inquiring minds might want to know… then again, maybe not!!
Speaking in Milwaukee, she said, “For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.” Later in the day, she repeated it, and added, “really”. Some people look it up, some make it up. Go look it up.
Michelle Obama was not proud of America when Bill Clinton was President.
Michelle Obama was not proud of America when Hillary was First Lady.
Hey, that is what she said!
Chas-
Number 1, Capn addressed it to multiples, perpetuating the lie he knows it to be, claiming anyone who disagrees with him must be the same person, since he is convinced in his little tiny mind that only one person in the world could possibly disagree with him.
Number 2..her ORIGINAL quote before her “correction” was the one I was referring to, in which she NEVER said she was always proud…
Moron? You and capn must be the same person. we have proof…you have used the same word. That is enough proof for capn…
Hehehe, good catch, Chas.
Sometimes even Regular forgets who he’s posting as. Hell, I’d forget too if I were juggling all those nics.
Chas.
Posted February 21, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink
Taz, just go find her REAL comment for yourself… it has nothing to do with CapN… he just posted the REAL quote… Dont take it into a personal attack… Geez!! Youre acting like a moron!!
I must be a moron. I looked it both the video and authe audio and it came up the same.
Michelle Obama – Monday 18 February 2008
Let me tell you something. For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback. And let me tell you something. I need to believe that we live in that kind of nation, where hope and possibility and unity is still what drives us.
I wonder who posted another version and who is supporting the other version. Maybe the need to look it up.
You make a good point Econ. While I was not a Clinton supporter, I will concede that most Americans viewed his years in the White House as successful. Pride in America was high, as it has generally been through my lifetime. I will never apologize for America. This country is the first to respond anywhere in the world when there is crisis, and has never asked for more than a small piece of ground to bury our dead. To me, that alone is worthy
of deep pride and gratitute.
Uh…capn? did you put:
“Reg-Pat-Tap–” as the first line of your post? Spelling my nic wrong does not prove a thing, except that you are an idiot who can’t remember his own posts.
Unless, of course, it was Chas posting as Capn. Which would not surprise me.
Hud…
Capn/Chas has his mind made up. Facts are not important to him.
HUD — I just listened to what she said, at CNN.com — Type “Michelle Obama” in the Search box… It will take you to a breitbart link to the Video of what she said… Easy enough?? And then there is another link to another speech nearly identical in Milwaukee just yesterday… If you WANT to find the right words, it can be done… http://www.cnn.com
Taz–
“Tap” referred to
Tap Herroni
Posted February 21, 2008
I don’t blame you though . . . stupidity is a difficult handicap to overcome after all.
Taz — CapN was not addressing his post to TAZ… but, as you rightly point out, to Reg-Pat-Tap… “Tap” is not a typo…
Try again, moron!!
Ummm sorry again Taz… CapN is in Wichita… I am in T E X A S at the moment…
Others have misspelled my nic.
My apologies for thinking it was done again. I made a mistake, unlike Capn/Chas, I am not perfect.
ALERT ALERT U. S. Embassy in Serbia has now been secured from rioting crowds, according to CNN Breaking News…
Pretty darned difficult to misspell Taz, Taz…
:roll:
I was wondering the same, chas. even my monkey fingers and dyspeptic brain wouldn’t confuse lower left stretch with upper right stretch. But hey, who know about Dvorak keyboards?
(but, it’s your fight, I’ll stay out of it)
“This country is the first to respond anywhere in the world when there is crisis, and has never asked for more than a small piece of ground to bury our dead. To me, that alone is worthy
of deep pride and gratitute.”
Oh, sh*t. Listen to the buttons popping as tears well up . . .
Here are a few names for you to research
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mossadegh
Mossadegh was a democratically elected PM of Iran overthrown by a British-American coup to make Iran safe for Big Oil Profits
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Torrijos
Torrijos was leader of Panama and demanded that the canal be re-patriated to Panama. Died with several others when his plane was exploded by the CIA.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Rold%C3%B3s_Aguilera
Jaime Roldos, democratically elected president of Ecuador, also killed in a plane crash when he refused to allow Big Oil to seize petroleum there.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngo_Dinh_Diem
Leader of Vietnam killed in a CIA backed coup. Probably the defining moment when the US insured its political defeat in Vietnam.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandanista
The democratically elected government of Nicaragua that overthrew US backed dictator Somoza. Reagan mined the harbors and conducted a secret, illegal, and unconstitutional war against them, killing tens of thousands of civilians using its killers-for-hire, the “contras”.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende
Salvador Allende, despite US money and dirty tricks, he became the duly elected president of Chile, overthrown by a CIA backed coup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez
Hugo Chavez, democratically elected leader of Venezula. Survived a national strike and coup attempt fomented in part by the Bush administration. (See Otto Reich)
Nothing says “America the beautiful, America the free” like knocking off some elected leaders in other countries so that multinational corporations can run rough-shod over people’s rights and decency . . .
:roll:
Very interesting CapN, and provocative :-D
You know, even if Capn and Chas were to meet Taz and I in person, they would still come up with some b.s. excuse for their behavior and accusations.
As I said before:
Libs: Persecutor – Accuser – Victim
It’s a pattern they can’t break and why they are Libs.
Capn, I think you must have a kink in your oxygen tube. Take your meds and get some rest. I notice that you have an affinity for Wikipedia. Is that because most of the propaganda on their is written by Commie Pussies like you?
Name calling.
Real nice, Peapicker.
That’s what you people do when you can’t argue the merits of the case.
It’s how you know you’ve won.
Nice try. What a lame response. I’ve noticed that you have no reluctance to call people names, but I guess that’s a priviledge reserved for you elites. Here’s my offer: a free one-way ticket anywhere in the world, but you have to take a busload of your fellow dirtbags with you.
Once again, this is much ado about nothing, other than the fact that some on the right are very inclined to jump on any statement that can be construed as anti-patriotic.
The only way to deal with it is to label it as the nasty strategy as it is.
To paraphrase Samuel Johnson by way of amemdment by Ambrose Bierce…
“Patriotism is the first refuge of the scoundrel.”
PP–
So why aren’t YOU in Iraq, macho man?
I came back last year
Regular writes:
“they would still come up with some b.s. excuse for their behavior.”
Yeah, I guess vowing that you never posted as JM and had only posted under one nic was just b.s., right, JM?
Nobody trusts you because you’ve completely discredited yourself by lies, lies, and also lying.
And they won’t let you go back, eh, PP?
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ksagnostic
Posted February 21, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink
Once again, this is much ado about nothing, other than the fact that some on the right are very inclined to jump on any statement that can be construed as anti-patriotic.
The only way to deal with it is to label it as the nasty strategy as it is.
To paraphrase Samuel Johnson by way of amemdment by Ambrose Bierce…
“Patriotism is the first refuge of the scoundrel.”
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There’s a reason they called him “Bitter Bierce”
He couldn’t play nice with others and was up to his neck in his own mental feces. It was his own smell that he lashed out towards others.
Nice role model you have there.
Bitter ksagnostic. :D
CraponAmerica, the Blog’s most prolific nic switching, liar and troll makes a comment.
laughable…
When they call you names, that’s when you know you’ve won.
Cap, I was actually in Afghanistan from Aug 04 through June 05, and it’s not a matter of letting me go back. I did one tour and believe me – one is enough.
Yeah CraponAmerica, you won the privilege to screw the pooch.
Wait, you already did that – it was reported in the paper.
(chortles)
Yeah . . . tell me about it.
My son-in-law was in fricking Ramadi.
I appreciate and respect your service.
America is a great country. We just have to take it back from the politicians.
“America is a great country. We just have to take it back from the politicians.”
At least we can agree on that. Thanks
Cap, as I reread your last post, I find it more profound than it first appears.
“There’s a reason they called him ‘Bitter Bierce’.”
Well, that’s true. I still like his amendment to Johnson’s famous quote, but it isn’t for nothing that he is considered one of the most famous of cynics.
“He couldn’t play nice with others and was up to his neck in his own mental feces. It was his own smell that he lashed out towards others.
“Nice role model you have there.
“Bitter ksagnostic.”
Project much? I actually am something of an optimist.
Ooooops!
Well, no MORE soup for you.
Note to self.
Re: Regular
DNFTT
Except when he is not writing trollish stuff.
Obama thinks the National Anthem was written and to be sung like this, “O Che can you see…”, as in the Communist Che Guevara.
I abolutely agree one hundred percent with Michelle Obama’s comment. It is exciting right now because so many more people are getting involved in the process, and are ready for a change. The majority of the people have not shown this strong of a desire for change in a considerably long time. I am quite sure this is the first time in her adult life that this has happened. I know it is the first time in mine. It is unmistakable the difference in people who used to be apathetic to the political process. It was such a positive comment in my opinion. There is no reason to make it into something it wasn’t. I think she said exactly what she meant. I also think their are people clammering out there to find bad things to say about this energetic and inspiring pair.
Boxlock
Posted February 21, 2008 at 4:15 pm | Permalink
Obama thinks the National Anthem was written and to be sung like this, “O Che can you see…”, as in the Communist Che Guevara.
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Boxer… That post is not just a bunch of horse hockey, it is a total LIE!! Politics is one thing — Intentional LYING SMEAR is quite another.. You are taking part in the “other”
Chas,
What you are accusing me of is all a matter of opinion…yours.
You already know I don’t value that very highly, but out of civility let me just say that he wants the government supplying literally conception to grave entitlements. The government involved in nearly every aspect of our lives. He IS the Wizard in the Wizard of Oz. He would control most aspects of the economy, health care, raise taxes increase undeserved benefits, ad nauseum.
He would take this country from an already socialist one to a giant Cuba…just like Fidel and Che Guevara the murderer.
There is one I think even possibly worse though Shrillary.
Not new, but still very relevant.
I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back patio and filled it with seed. What a beauty of a bird feeder it is as I filled it lovingly with seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
Then came the shit… It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table…everywhere!
Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.
And other birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn’t even sit in my own back garden anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.
Soon, the back yard was like it used to be …. quiet, serene and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
Now let’s see…. our government gives out free food, subsidised housing, free medical care, and free education and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.
Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands.
Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; your child’s 2nd grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn’t speak English.
Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to ‘press one’ to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than the Union Jack are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
Just my opinion, but maybe it’s time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
What a load of BS. Michelle Obama stepped in a big pile of it and the stench is overpowering. But just like his refusal to salute the flag and say the pledge of allegiance, you bedwetters are trying to pretend it never happened. Sorry but nobody is buying it. Why do you think she went out later that same day and added the word “really” to her pathetic little statement. Her handlers knew she had went off the reservation and screwed up big time. I’m sure she is being fitted for a muzzle as we speak.
What is funny is that those complaining the loudest about Michelle’s remarks arent even those in her own party, and arethose who would LIE about her husband’s beliefs, and his goals…
Like those who would LIE about what the National Anthem will be if Obama is elected President… Which of course is a total and outright lie… Yea, that means YOU Boxer…
What you say about what YOU think Obama believes and wants does not make it TRUE…
It doesnt matter how much you WANT it to be true, doesnt make it so…
Boxer, you said above:
Boxlock
Posted February 21, 2008 at 4:15 pm | Permalink
Obama thinks the National Anthem was written and to be sung like this, “O Che can you see…”, as in the Communist Che Guevara.
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Nothing you said in response to my post changes the FACT that what you posted above is still a blatant LIE… Just more right wing vitriolic spew!! Shpit on you!!
What is even funnier yet, is that there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what she said!!
The woman speaks truth, and a whole day is spent on the Blog condemning what she says!!
And those condemning what she says are the REAL Liars!!
Chas, I could not POSSIBLY get under your skin like I do, making you go just plain berserk, as you so clearly demonstrate time and time again, if what I was saying didn’t have a gem of truth to it.
You simply confirm to everyone your own fears that the dirty little secrets you want hidden are getting out, and your candidates are a poor choice.
You really need to try to calm down and take a little of your own medicine in stride. You sure like to dish it, but simply erupt if anybody throws it back at you.
Boxer, is your EGO so big that you think somebody like YOU can get under my skin??? LOL Thats a good one… And how DARE you pretend to know who my candidate is!! I mean, I have never YET posted anything on this Blog, or any other Blog who my choice of candidate is… Not ONCE!! And since you have said you are a relatively NEW poster, how do you figure that you have even had TIME to get under my skin??? Oh, unless you are actually saying that you are somebody else, using this Boxlock creature as your current User ID??
We know you cant possibly be Regular/James/JM/Kansas, etc., since we all know that he always says he uses only ONE nic…
So, NO, Boxer…. you dont get under my skin… But on the other hand, I am not going to stop posting what I believe to be truthful statements, just because you will rant against it…
And what YOU posted about Obama’s re-write of the National Anthem, is STILL a blatant LIE!! Since Obama has never said that, nor has he written it… Therefore, for you to say it is a LIE… And it doesnt matter how much you spin it, it is still a LIE!!!
So, if your EGO is soooo huge that you actually believe you get under my skin, I think it is YOU who needs to figure out what makes YOU tick, and not worry about whats makes me tick!!
Get it??? Its simple… You post a LIE, and I am gonna call you out on it every time… and if you dont like it, Tough!! I have had enough of this Garbage politics on this Blog, and elsewhere…
This whole thing of what Michelle Obama said is classic… She spoke something very dignified, and very true!! For HER view of life… taking into consideration where SHE comes from…. And nothing any of you sickening ego maniacs can change that!! But do keep trying!!
Seriously now: what qualifications does b. hussein have to be president? What has he done to merit such attention? He is a one term senator, and he has spent most of that one term running for president. Beneath the goofy and amateur speeches about “hope” and “change” there is really an empty suit.
Exactly Hal, your observations are right on!
And notice by the way from Chas’s post just above at at 8:56 pm how I’m not getting under his skin, oh no sirree, not me. That boys got thick skin, can’t get under it for sure.
Sure seems a little sensitive about Obama’s rendition of the National Anthem though.
“Obama thinks the National Anthem was written and to be sung like this, “O Che can you see…”, as in the Communist Che Guevara.”
Just so this doesn’t turn into another pi$$ing contest tonight…I’m headed to bed to read.
Night all,
Be sure you dont pi$$ your bed Boxlock. You wouldnt want to wake up wet, would you?
Good night; Good luck; and
God bless; whatever you conceive
God to be!
Blessings All!!
“Obama thinks the National Anthem was written and to be sung like this, ‘O Che can you see…’, as in the Communist Che Guevara.”
Re: Boxlock
DNFTT
“But just like his refusal to salute the flag and say the pledge of allegiance, you bedwetters are trying to pretend it never happened.”
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
Most conservative hacks know better than to regurgitate this stuff. And please, don’t waste brain cells trying to point out that the one Snopes is labeled “true”, there is a difference between the Pledge and the National Anthem, and a lot of people simply stand (and sing unless there is a professional singer) during the anthem.
Chris, you sir, are a willful dumbass. Period.
Well, hmmmmm. I don’t put my hand over my heart during the playing OR singing of the National Anthem. I do stand, and I think that’s enough to show my “patriotism”. Puting my hand over my heart makes me feel like a kindergartener. It’s dorky. And the song sucks.
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