Cultural sea change leaving GOP behind

mccainallwhite.jpg“Trapped in an archaic black-and-white newsreel, the GOP looks more like a nostalgic relic than a national political party in contemporary America,” wrote New York Times columnist Frank Rich, noting that supporters at John McCain rallies tend to be older, all white and mostly male. “A cultural sea change has passed it by.”

That sea change is reflected in demographics that are benefiting Barack Obama. Rich noted: “The authors of the new book ‘Millennial Makeover,’ Morley Winograd and Michael D. Hais, point out that the so-called millennial generation (dating from 1982) is the largest in American history, boomers included, and that roughly 40 percent of it is African-American, Latino, Asian or racially mixed. One in five millennials has an immigrant parent. It’s this generation that is fueling the excitement and some of the record turnout of the Democratic primary campaign, and not just for Mr. Obama.”

93 Comments

  1. American Way
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Another wonderful post by the editors with an obvious tilt to the left and showing the republicans in bad light. (sigh)

    Makes me lean just the opposite.

  2. Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    McLame is evidence of the death of the GOP. Gone are conservatives from the party. We have a one party system with war mongering on one side and extreme spending on the other.

  3. Ben
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    As bad as McCain might be he is head and shoulders ahead of anyone else in the Republican field!

  4. Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Ben,

    Is it a shock to you that a Liberal would like McLame? Certainly isn’t a shock for me. As my previous post illustrates…

  5. American Way
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Sol, if both sides candidates represent one party – why bother trashing them in the press.

    You’d think they would rejoice!

    I don’t care what any other citizens/posters opinion is of the candidates,

    the press should do it’s damnest to be balanced in their reporting. So voters can make intelligent informed decisions.

    Real news and investigations – not editorialized.

    (sorry, I think I sound like a commercial)

  6. Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    (sorry, I think I sound like a commercial)

    Unfortunately so does the media. Gone are the days of intelligent reporting. Now ratings are king. If the story doesn’t sell ad space, it doesn’t see the light of day. It seems that what you hear only supports the station’s/paper’s agenda.

    McLame was the media darling. Once he is crowned, the media will eat him for lunch.

    Ps,

    The media will turn on McLame for the sole reason that he is the GOP candidate. They don’t even care that he is a liberal.

  7. American Way
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Hence Ron Paul being muted in the press. Really too bad. If his name appears as an independent, I’d still vote for him. Even if I knew my vote was the deciding vote between Obama and McCain. It’s not a wasted vote – it’s a message.

  8. J R
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    “the GOP looks more like a nostalgic relic than a national political party in contemporary America,”

    The GOP has ALWAYS been a nostalgic relic in contemporary America.

    None of its ideals have been practical since the 1890’s.

    It’s just a slow learning curve for a lot of Americans figuring it out.

  9. rfl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    So why are these “millenialists” right? No where in the opening thread is there a list of the ideals held by these millenialists who support Obama.

    According to the thread, simply being the child of a immigrant gives you the ability to determine what is the best direction for America. Why is that?

  10. Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    The GOP is the Party of Today…….

    Like that old song from the Sixties (Grassroots?)

    Let’s live for today, don’t worry ’bout tomorrow, I’ve better things to do, and I don’t need to hurry,

    The bills are DUE tomorrow, but the Republicans aren’t worried because they can’t even SEE tomorrow.

  11. Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    “According to the thread, simply being the child of a immigrant gives you the ability to determine what is the best direction for America.”

    Huh? Where the Hell did THAT come from?

  12. Wiseman
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Galoot, Obnoxious, Persona non grata, the new definition of GOP.

  13. rfl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Huh? Where the Hell did THAT come from?
    -Clark

    From the Thread:

    One in five millennials has an immigrant parent. It’s this generation that is fueling the excitement and some of the record turnout of the Democratic primary campaign, and not just for Mr. Obama.”

  14. Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    I seem to recall that most of our Founding Fathers were the children of immigrants.

  15. Ben
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    rfl – all that means is that they are active and voting. Not necessarily that they are ‘right’

  16. rfl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    I seem to recall that most of our Founding Fathers were the children of immigrants.
    -Clark

    If you consider anybody who were born British subjects as immigrants, then in fact ALL were immigrants. However, they were all white and British.

    Why are immigrants voting Democratic? What specific advantages do the democratic party platform offer immigrants? Those points were missing in the thread.

  17. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Lazy Eagle Reports

    A LEAD for you:

    Type: “plagiarism obama”

    — into your browswer.

    Much of the “excitement” about Obama is his speaking ability. Much of what he says has been said before, by someone else.

    There are SEVERAL Obama Plagiarism problems, not just one.

    Plagiarism sunk Biden. It will at least hurt Obama.

  18. rfl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    rfl – all that means is that they are active and voting. Not necessarily that they are ‘right’
    -Ben

    Well, people vote for what it is they feel is “right” for the country.

  19. rfl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    The WEBlog states (or implies):

    1. The GOP is losing support to the Democrats due to changing demographics (they infere that this change in demographic came about due to immigration)

    2. More people are immigrants and or “non white” today then before when GOP had more support.

    3. Immigrant rich and non white population today supports the Democrats.

    My question is:

    Is it necessarily a good thing that immigrants are driving the direction of national party politics?

    For example:
    What would happen if all the immigrants wanted to vote GOP? would the WEBlog then be such a big cheerleader of their voting habits? Doubtfull.

  20. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Actually, no
    People vote based on what makes them feel good.

  21. Hank Price
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    LOL!

    Do the editors try to be this funny or are they just incredibly dim?

    They post a thread titled “Cultural sea change leaving GOP behind” immediately after one that talks about the Goracle being the potential savior of the Dems!

    OK, reality check children. They have two candidates for the democrat nomination. How incredibly screwed up will their convention have to be for Gore to be the answer?

  22. Stuart
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    This would be why national polls show a dead heat between McCain and the two Democratic candidates, right? I do think Republicans, with their over the top hostility to immigrants, are creating major trouble for themselves, but McCain is the one candidate with a more nuanced view who can perhaps mitigate the damage.

  23. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Obama and Patrick videos, YOU decide:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/18/video-the-audacity-of-derivativeness/

  24. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Stuart

    I want McCain to find a real conservative Cuban running mate.

    That would be funny!

  25. Pleefer
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    The left and right and two sides of the same coin…ad nauseum. There was one possible hope for the republicans, but the average Joe Republican falls for the media and their tricks like a good Pavlovian dog must and disregard Dr. Paul as a kook instead of a genuine and real leader. But because he “doesn’t look Presidential” all of the vain Republicans, (who are either never wrong or can never admit being wrong or could never be lead astray) dismiss him. I’ll vote for Ron Paul at those dumb animal Neo-Cons’ expense. But when I say that, I know that Clinton, Obama, McCain and Hucklebee all have the same bosses, same clubs (CFR) and goals. My candidate doesn’t take money from the makers of guns like the others, hell, he doesn’t take money from anyone or entity but…can I say this??..average people.

    When Rush Limbaugh is asked about these people and he says that “it doesn’t exist”, something is up.

    Some folks don’t get fooled twice, others are just stupid.

    Scores of people are waking up daily. They know that something is fundamentally wrong and are wanting and needing REAL CHANGE.

    When government fears the people, there is freedom but when the people fear government, there is tyranny.

  26. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Some feminists groups and the DU claim that Obama copied or plagiarized Hillary’s economic plan:

    http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/02/plagiarism-or-more-obama-changes-more.html

  27. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    Right-wing talk radio sabotaged the Republic Party’s chances of attracting Latino voters. A decade or more of “English as official language” rhetoric brought out the racists of the Republic Party coalition.

    As a highly family-centered culture, mostly Catholic and naturally anti-abortion, Hispanics should have been welcomed into the GOP. But Hispanics are brown, and the Republic Party couldn’t accept that. Latinos sometimes speak Spanish in front of white people and Republic Party stalwarts just hate that.

  28. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Monkey
    Bull.

    The most anti-immigrant person on this Blog is a HILLARY supporter. He wants to put land mines on the border and blow up Mexicans as the cross. He is a Democrat, not a Republican!

    I have Spanish roots. Many, many people who want us to secure our borders have Spanish or Mexican or Latino roots.

  29. Nathan
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    As usual, the liberals do the old bait and switch.

    Republicans don’t have a problem with immigrants or immigration. We have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration and people here ILLEGALLY.

    Of course, it doesn’t become political ammunition and a wedge for the Democrats to use if they use the word ILLEGAL.

  30. JWink
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    In order for McCain’s eventual running mate to help him, his vice president must have nationwide and even world-wide name identification.

    Trying to think who this could be. I come up with Rudy Giuliani or Bush brother, former Governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, or current presidential candidate, Huckabee. Huckabee is a very strong speaker as I grew to recognize.

    Personally, I would like to see 1961 Wichita East High School graduate and current Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates in the position. He’s got the intelligence, education (PhD), and long years of vital federal government experience (CIA) needed as backup for John McCain.

    However, Mr. Gates has been quoted as saying politics is not in the cards for him.

  31. Nathan
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Bush placed more minorities into high political places than Clinton ever did.

    Do we hear about that though?

    Of course, Condi and Powell were not real black people now were they?

    Those are just two of the most prominent figures.

    The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that the Republicans actually work with minorities and don’t rule over them as the Democrats try to do.

  32. Hank Price
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Well, there is talk about Condi getting the nod as VP for McCain.

    It just keeps getting better and better!

  33. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    “Nathan” squirms –

    “Republicans don’t have a problem with immigrants or immigration. We have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration and people here ILLEGALLY.”

    Do you deny that “English as official language” has been a longtime cause for the Right Wing-nuts?

    If so, you’re proving your ignorance.

    Pleny of legal aliens and American-born Latinos live in communities where Spanish is the predominate language. Spanish Harlem in New York, Little Havana in Florida, the Rio Grande Valley in Texas, all along the New Mexico, Arizona, and California borders.

  34. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Senator Martinez of Florida, but he has a campaign finance problem?

    Jindal, Gov of Louisianna? Nope, still too early in his first term, too soon.

    The Governor of Minnesotta? Pawlenty? Not sure.
    He is conservative, might pull a “red” state in.

    I still do not think it will be Huckabee.

  35. Nathan
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    MonkeyHawk,

    Do your children speak Russian? Is that their primary language?

    Why not?

    A nations identity is rooted in several things including language.

    If you think that language should merely be based on location and there shouldn’t be a common language then have fun going back to the tribal system.

    Of course I think English should be our primary language, the one taught in our schools.

    The question is, why don’t you?

  36. rfl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Latinos sometimes speak Spanish in front of white people and Republic Party stalwarts just hate that.
    -Monkey

    Yeah, that’s a bunch of bull. George Bush won because of latino support in his beloved “great state of Texas”. I bet you were not championing the latino vote back then, huh? Bush even spoke quibbles of spanish during numerous state of the union addresses as well as appointing Latino Alberto Gonzales to Attorney General.

    IF immigrants and latinos go for the democrats in November, there is no substantive reason behind it.

    I got one theory, I know mexican born immigrants who learn english by watching TV. So if they are watching TV and all their favorite movie stars and pop singers are supporting the democrats… well, do the math.

  37. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Monkey
    NOBODY has proposed that we outlaw Spanish, or any other language.

    However, English should be our OFFICIAL language. There are plenty of Democrats who agree with that view. It is NOT a racist or bigoted view, in any way.

    Quebec, Canada, has declared French to be the official language of Quebec. Is that racist or bigoted?:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_of_the_French_Language

  38. Fleettwood
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s demographics do not vote. After all the get-out-the-vote campaigns, they still don’t.
    That is good.

  39. Adrienne
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    I’m a single, white, female. I’m 23, a college graduate and I’m a conservative Republican. I don’t go to an evangelical all white church. I was born and raised in Kansas. I’ve spent summers in LA and Africa doing Missions work… I’m a social worker in a low-income school. My friends are of all races and both genders… but I vote Republican

    Explain me.

  40. Fleettwood
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Obviously, you were raised by right thinking parents.

  41. J R
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    You’re a troll and you are lying? That’s a fair bet around here.

  42. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    “Econ101″ –

    One of the more humorous “English as official language” political fisascos happened in California a couple of years ago. You right-wingnut racsists floated a voters’ inniative for a state constitutional amendment to outlaw Spanish in government documents. Except, the Calfornia Constitution is bi-lingual; been that way since 1850. The “English only” amendment had to be presented…in Spanish!

    As for yours and “Nathan’s” boilerplate reponses, I might refer you to my original post on this topic. I have no great passion one way or another about “an official language.” My point is that right wing-nuts screwed the pooch when it came to attracting what, quite logically, might have been a natural fit for a political party professing family values and good ol’ fashioned Roman Catholic values.

    You guys blew the opportunity due to your nativist bigotry and racism.

    Live with it.

  43. Regular
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Figures that MonkeyHock would give Hollyfornia as an example, the land of fruits and nuts.

  44. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    “Adrienne” –

    “I’m a single, white, female. I’m 23, a college graduate and I’m a conservative Republican. I don’t go to an evangelical all white church. I was born and raised in Kansas. I’ve spent summers in LA and Africa doing Missions work… I’m a social worker in a low-income school. My friends are of all races and both genders… but I vote Republican

    “Explain me.”

    I’ll explain you.

    Just a few more questions:

    Are you a virgin?

    Does Daddy have a lot of money?

    Ever had a boyfriend?

    Are you obese?

  45. Ben
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Paul – I agree that we need to move forward to English. I have a number of reasons for that including the fact that for a non-English speaker has ‘too-limited’ information sources. I would add that a eprson can earn a living much better if he can communicate with more potential employers.

  46. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    “Regular” chimes in with –

    “Figures that MonkeyHock would….”

    Seems like the Cons in this forum were denigrating what they perceived as “Libs’” monopoly on name-calling.

    I’m assuming all of you will come forth and criticize “Regular’s” little play on words.

    (Of course, that also assumes, you are honorable people.)

  47. Nathan
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    MonkeyHawk,

    Which is it? On one hand you say you are indifferent to English being an Official language and then say the Republican call for it is bigoted and racist.

  48. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    “Ben” offers –

    “…we need to move forward to English. I have a number of reasons for that including the fact that for a non-English speaker has ‘too-limited’ information sources. I would add that a eprson can earn a living much better if he can communicate with more potential employers.”

    So let the marketplace dictate the language!

    All around the world, from Mexico to China to Germany to Russia to Botswana to the Middle East, the marketplace has led ambitious people to learn English. The marketplace works, doesn’t?

    On the flip side, if I am running a business in the Southwest United States and want to sell stuff to Spanish-speaking people, I have the right to put up bi-lingual signs without catching the wrath of “English as Official Language” fanatics.

    Again, this is not an argument about the advantages — real and imagined — of being fluent in English in a predominately English-speaking nation. What screwed the Republic Party with Latinos was their visceral hatred of Spanish-speaking people. It’s evolved into bias against Spanish-sounding people. It’s gone all the way toward Spanish-looking people.

    This isn’t something that is not obvious to anyone of Hispanic ethnicity when dealing with you white bread Republic Party voters. They see it every day.

  49. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Monkey

    You call Conservatives “bigots” out of hand, with no proof of actual malice, on our part, collectively or individually.

    And then, you make a very harsh statement, assuming all types of stereotypes, against a woman that you disagree with?

  50. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    “Econ101″ –

    “You call Conservatives “bigots” out of hand, with no proof of actual malice, on our part, collectively or individually.”

    Nope. I don’t call Cons bigots, I simply cite the consequences of your bigotry. You can’t argue with the consequences, so you attempt to divert the question.

    “And then, you make a very harsh statement, assuming all types of stereotypes, against a woman that you disagree with?”

    And that would be how?

  51. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    “Nathan,” clueless as ever, offers –

    “Which is it? On one hand you say you are indifferent to English being an Official language and then say the Republican call for it is bigoted and racist.”

    Because, “Nathan,” the whole concept of “an official language” is a bogus and bigoted position.

    I don’t care about English or Spanish or African-Click Language becoming the “Official” language because the marketplace already makes English the most advantageous fluency to have in the world today. (But here’s a hint: start studying Manderin.)

    You want an “official” language? Let’s make it Swedish, so all of us can learn it together (well, not counting those bachelor farmers in Minnesota).

    And, since it’s obvious you are having trouble paying attention, I’ve not tried (despite trolls from you and “Econ101″ and others) to address the case of the value of English literacy in a predominately English-speaking society. I’ve merely observed that the English-as-Official-Language movement put a turd in your political punchbowl because you’ve approached Spanish-speaking people with obviously biases and racists arguments for the past decade or so.

  52. Posted February 18, 2008 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    There are still sections of Louisiana where French or French based dialects are still spoken as a primary language.

    Many people that speak English as a second language PREFER to hear important information in their native tongue.

    English is a difficult language, for one, the grammar is backwards from most European languages.

    The English only hysteria is just that – a minor issue to detract from the major issues.

  53. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Is Plagiarism in any other language still Plagiarism?

    LOL

  54. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Change the subject, “Econ101.”

    Proof positive you’ve got nothing when it comes to the issue at hand.

    Loser.

  55. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Monkey
    I believe that I brought up the Obama Plagiarism issue, on THIS thread, prior to you calling conservatives bigots for wanting English as our official language.

    Therefore, perhaps, YOU changed the subject?

    plagio

    There, I said it in Spanish!

  56. Phantom
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    ” We have a one party system with war mongering on one side and extreme spending on the other.”
    We’ve had 7 yrs. with the worst of both worlds, War Mongering combined with extreme spending under bush.

    Condi with MCCain would be a God Send, I can just hear the mushroom cloud jokes now! Would definitely pit war mongers against the people anti-war.

  57. RD
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    I see Paul has learned how to spell ‘plagiarism’.

    Paul, if those, who others are accusing Obama and anyone else of plagiarism, feel and have proof, then THEY should be filing the necessary paperwork to bring suit. Otherwise, nobody else has that right.

    You do know about rights, correct?

    Just because something is similar to something else, that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s plagiarism. If, indeed, you were a journalism major, you’d know this to be true. Don’t believe me? Then why don’t YOU try filing suit against Obama and see where it gets you.

  58. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Hey Monkey–

    What does obese have to do with anyone voting any which way? I hope you are not demonstrating that bigotry against fat folks is the last acceptable bigotry. But I guess I’m not pure either. I have a bias against over forty, chunky, pasty white guys. We all have our bias?

    “African-Click Language becoming the “Official” language”

    Hee hee hee. I’m in! I’ve got the tongue technique. Uh, being an old trumpet player and all :)

    “But here’s a hint: start studying Manderin.”

    No kidding. Twenty years ago at AT&T we couldnt find enough Manderin speakers to meet the demand for international operators. We used to PAY people to go to school to learn it. And it aint easy learning it.

    “You want an “official” language? Let’s make it Swedish, so all of us can learn it together (well, not counting those bachelor farmers in Minnesota).”

    They are bachelor NORWEGIAN farmers in Lake Woebegone. Not Swedish. hee hee hee. Or out here, we are bachelor Volga German farmers. Gella?

    hee hee heeeeeee….

  59. Dennis
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Speaking of fading GOP, is the entire Kansas legislature in the pay of Sunflower and the rest of the coal people? As KFG says, Jesus wept, the vote of the Senate last week and now the House today.

    Why are they bothering meeting? They can just have their checks shipped to their banks electronically.

  60. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    No kidding Dennis. They may as well have automatic deposit. Where is Meadowlark?

  61. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Or I guess the backers of Ol’ King Coal could do what Bo Pilgrim of chicken fame did in the Texas legislature when they were considering some strict confined animal waste regulations.

    He WALKED AROUND THE FLOOR and handed out checks to the legislators at their desks. And it was all perfectly legal.

    Might we see Steve Miller and Earl Watkins walking around with checkbook in hand? Or perhaps, like the bushies in iraq, just handing out bundles of cash?

  62. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    GOP? Grand Ol’ Polluters?

    NOT a good way to attract young voters.

  63. WhiteElephant
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    The Republican Pary should change their mascot to a dinosaur

  64. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Well anyway, melvin is getting the Ethics Commission in order. Now. Since the position has been open for FIVE YEARS!

    Why now? heheheheheeh.

    “House speaker fills vacancy on ethics commission

    Eds: APNewsNow

    TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — House Speaker Melvin Neufeld has filled a vacancy on the state Governmental Ethics Commission.

    Neufeld’s appointee is Tecumseh resident John Reimer, a retired employee of a state agency that provides supplemental medical malpractice coverage for Kansas doctors. Reimer served in the House in 1977-81, as a Republican then from Parsons.

    The position has been vacant since 2003. State law limits who can serve on the commission, which enforces ethics, lobbying and campaign finance laws, so that people who are active as lobbyists or in politics and state government aren’t members.”

    Better late than never I guess? Why now?

  65. WhiteElephant
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    pary = party

  66. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Nah, “ksfarmgrrl” —

    The “obese” snark was just that: a snark

    Since “Adrienne” is most likely somebody’s sock-puppet, I wasn’t all that concerned about being personally offensive.

    As for your “…bias against over forty, chunky, pasty white guys,” I suspect that reflects good judgement on your part. Lord knows, I wouldn’t want to marry one.

  67. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    “The Republican Pary should change their mascot to a dinosaur”

    Dont you mean a vegetarian dinosaur less than six thousand years old who rode over on the ark?

    Looks like McCain always has guys standing behind him that COULD have ridden along with Noah. I heard he does that so HE looks younger?

    hehehehhehe. It aint workin. Maybe dinosaurs would work better? Or would he blend right in?

  68. WhiteElephant
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Nevermind, they should change their macot to a Wasp.

  69. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    “Lord knows, I wouldn’t want to marry one.”

    Well, thank god the kansas taliban STOPPED that from being possible.

    Now, if you could find me a chunky, over fifty, pasty white WOMAN (who is wealthy and owns a liquor store…) I could be persuaded to march down the aisle.

    Oh yeah, I cant do that either. Thanks to terry, joe and fred. And more than seventy percent of Kansans.

  70. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    “Nevermind, they should change their macot to a Wasp”

    Maybe a likeness of Ol King Coal?

  71. WhiteElephant
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Yea, or the money bags monopoly guy.

  72. WhiteElephant
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    oh, i guess his name is penny bags

  73. MonkeyHawk
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    “ksfarmgrrl” offers –

    “…if you could find me a chunky, over fifty, pasty white WOMAN (who is wealthy and owns a liquor store…) I could be persuaded to march down the aisle.”

    You may have tripped over the key to the Kansas Taliban, “ksfarmgrrl.” My guess is “terry,” “joe,” and “fred” don’t want you as competition.

    Your natural appeal is more than seventy percent of Kansans what to compete against.

  74. KenS
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    You mock what you don’t understand.

  75. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Didnt Bill Clinton sign the Defense of Marriage Act into law???

  76. writerdog
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Jeb Bush? Why not make the Neoconservatives ticket complete and have Bill Kristol or Paul Wolfowitz as V.P. I don’t know… Is the guy who thought of the death camps still alive?

  77. Kansas
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    What we’ve known all along…the Repubes are a party of old farts, disabled, unmarried, and probably on some sort of government giveaway $$$ that they pretend they’ve earned .

  78. Kansas
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Hah! McCain and Lieberman…the undead candidates!

  79. Regular
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Swedish as the official language…

    Do we have to speak like the Swedish Chef (Tim Conway) on the Carol Burnett Show?

  80. Econ101
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    wdog

    Deathcamps?

    “Neocon” is a term first coined in reference to Jewish Republicans.
    I do not see the humor in a “neocon” being, in any way, involved with a “death camp”.

  81. writerdog
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Kansas I had forgotten about Lieberman! He would be the best V.P. for Israel they could have.
    He is not much for America but is great for Israel. Why is it that here we have a Presidential candidate that seems to be disliked by many in his own party. Is best bud’s with someone that has more Loyalty to a foreign nation then his own. And yet is being portray as the alterative to two candidates that their party is so divided over that they may end up having a small group deciding which will be President ( I think the electoral college is a bad idea and then comes along Super delegates! ). What would seem a longer shot then a dead horse stuffed into the starting gate and could actually be a real possibility of being the next President! If Mc Cain would become President now who would be left with the illusion that there is anything left of a Democratic government? 2000 might have been a wake up call set on buzz, but Mc Cain would be a wake up call set of 10,000 volts to the bed. Is there still high country to go to?

    It has been pointed out, the Republican party has left true conservativism behind to become the Neo-Liberalism.

  82. NN
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Econ101: New Brunswick and Ontario are officially bilingual Provinces and as a country, Canada is officially bilingual. Quebec is unilingual but in reality, bilingual as well. Because there are 3 French oficial speaking entities in Canada it has 3 seats in the Francophonie, the French counterpart of the Commonwealth. I have 3 grandsons whose first language is French and 5 English. Being bilingual does not mean we all speak two languages though 40% do, it means that all governmental services are available in both oficial languages. Given that the France and England hated and fought each other over the centuries it was quite a feat of accomodation to see their descendants contributing to a rather unique society. There is a local proverb that says, “Canada had as birth DNA, English Political Wisdom, French Culture and American Knowhow. What we ended up with was French Political wisdom, English Knowhow and American Culture”. We’re still working on it……..

  83. writerdog
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Neither do I Econ, but the lessons learn and adopted by the crop of these Neoconservatives from Nazi Germany is just short of that! Strauss left Germany to avoid Hitler but the Ideology he gave to his students.
    Show he had a secret crush on the ideology that influenced the Nazi. Many of the tactics that they use are right out of the Nazi handbook and broader on Fascism:
    “There is a difference” I pointed out, “In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare war,”.

    “Oh that’s all well and good, but voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders, that is easy.
    All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of Patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country“.

    From an interview conducted by Gustavo Gilbert a German speaking intelligence officer and Psychologist given access to Nazi Reich marshal Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials.

    http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp

    Mc Cain wants to continue the Bush doctrine unchanged! The Neoconservatives want a major war to prove themselves right in their ideology. And do not care if it means the end of the United States!

  84. writerdog
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    And no the term was first coin to describe the Jewish LIBERALS that joined the Republican party.

  85. Regular
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Neocons and Nazis…

    Imperceptibly, a circle can be made of tiny line segments which makes it a multi-faceted polygon. From far away it looks like a circle.

    Upon closer examination one can tell it is not.

  86. Posted February 18, 2008 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Well, in the photograph you can clearly see that McCain has broad support.

    Over his left shoulder, there is George Allen who “reached” out to Macacas during his failed Senatorial campaign.

    Over his right shoulder, there is a cadaver, proving that McCain enjoys the support of dead people.

    Just to the right of the cadaver is a black man.

    Wait! That is actually Governor Suntan of Florida, not a REAL black man.

    There are at least three women in the audience, representing ALL of the women that support McCain, literally.

    Then there are a few more whitebread men in attendance, proving that McCain does not have a preference for wheat over white.

    So McCain is truly representative of the Republic Party.

  87. J R
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Heh

    Hover your cursor on the pic WS.

    Telling the title the JPG

  88. J R
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    Geez look on McCains right shoulder!

    Is that zig zag Zell Miller?

  89. Posted February 18, 2008 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    I’m a social worker in a low-income school. My friends are of all races and both genders… but I vote Republican

    Explain me.

    *****

    Hmmm . . .

    Stupid idiot.

  90. Posted February 18, 2008 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Finally even the advertiser-driven corporate conglomerate that is MainStreamMedia gets it–

    the Repukes are finished.

  91. killerpizza
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Nathan
    Posted February 18, 2008 at 2:55 pm | Permalink
    Bush placed more minorities into high political places than Clinton ever did.

    lol
    yeah sure.
    nice p. r. try gun boy.

  92. Kev
    Posted February 19, 2008 at 5:48 am | Permalink

    I have been saying this for 4 years. The Republicans are a party of old white guys. That is all they appeal to for the most part. That worked when the white male was the dominant figure in the country but the sun is setting on that era. A new generation is rising that is less white, less male and certainly less conservative. They want to move forward into the new century and not go back to the 18th century. Soon the only place the Republicans will win is the old south.

  93. Taz
    Posted February 19, 2008 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    Real mature there JR…making fun of someone’s looks. I bet you point and snicker at people in wheelchairs as well, don’t you?

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