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Uh Nathan, all you other gun guys. Hop to it. Time to start ranting about how them dam*ned east coast liburals are a’gonna take yr guns away.

The Pro 2nd Amendment folks, on this Blog, have proven Blooming idiot Berg WRONG on this issue several times.

Bloomberg wants to file Civil lawsuits against gun manufacturers and gun dealers, holding them liable for crimes that they had nothing to do with.

This is like holding a car manufacturer responsible, in Court, when a crazy person deliberately runs over a crowd of people.

The Tiahrt Amendement stops Bloomberg from doing this, it stops Bloomberg from punishing honest business people for the acts of criminals and crazy people.

The Tiahrt Amendment does absolutely nothing to prevent legitimate law enforcement.

Rhonda, I challenge you to post a CASE, a real life CRIMINAL case, where law enforcement has been prevented from receiving information that might solve that case or help solve that case.

You Can’t Rhonda.

Looks likemaybe Baltimore and NYC have figured out a way to get round TT’s precious amendment!! Hooray for the big guys!!

Why exactly do you cheer Chas?

What Specifically are the cities doing with this database.

Remember, be Specific.

Don’t just say they are fighting crime. How exactly is all this gun data being used.

Please provide examples. How will one criminal be brought to justice? How will one crime be prevented?

Max
Posted February 25, 2008 at 5:12 pm | Permalink
Why exactly do you cheer Chas?

I would like to hear the answer to that one also.

What do you cheer Chas?

Oh BOY! ANOTHER chance for the toddly one to get some donations from the gun lobby. He can sponsor legislation to STOP law enforcement agencies in cities from sharing information.

Yep. I can hear those campaign coffers and cash registers ringing now…

Paul — I suppose you can back this up?? Link??

Chas
We have proven this time and time again.
There is absolutely NO restriction on law enforcement use of these records for law eneforcement purposes.
What OTHER purpose is left?
Bloomberg has already made clear that he is an advocate for the gun control lobby, and that he thinks that gun dealers have civil liability for the actions of criminals.
Do YOUR homework.
(Or, just read a previous Bloomberg thread.)

Maybe Rhonda can answer my questions, since she posted this ridiculous topic.

Sorry, can’t resist.

“This while our citizens reduced to cowering in the corner and praying in “gun-free” zones…”

Uh GMC? This isn’t me. It isn’t anybody I know either.

Is it….you?

Heh It SHOULD be paulie.

Ok done.

JR,

GMC70 was talking about those students at VT and the many other schools where the so called gun free zone was used in a mass shooting spree.

Someone must have forgotten to tell the shooters that it was illegal to have a gun there.

“GMC70 was talking about those students at VT and the many other schools where the so called gun free zone was used in a mass shooting spree.”

He was?

Uh no.

He DID reveal much about himself and those who feel the need to be armed at all times though. And it confirms what I have said all along.

Such folk have a hard wired for lack of a better word… paranoia. This may explain much more as to their politics.

Don’t bother responding Nathan.

I think GMC said it all.

Me I don’t go about afraid all the time.

Jeez, I worry a whole lot more about crazy drivers than I do about wild shooting sprees. Driving in Wichita can be an adventure, but being a pedestrian is far worse.

As a motorcyclist, I trained myself to be ever watchful of drivers, to the point of assuming that they would do something stupid, which they usually did.

As a pedestrian, you don’t have the added advantage of having a throttle under your right hand.

You are a sitting duck if a driver chooses to ignore a red light or ped x-ing.

I don’t worry about shooting sprees, but I sure the Hell worry about some of our local drivers.

No JR,

You called those who carry paranoid and afraid.

GMC70 said no such thing.

JR,

I don’t need to wait for GMC70. His comments were about those who are in the middle of a shooting, not simply wondering around on a normal day…

And your comments still have nothing to do with your labeling those who choose to carry as afraid or paranoid.

WS Clark,

It is not just wild shooting sprees. I choose to be prepared to protect myself, my loved ones, and others from any multitude of things in which my life or thiers is threatened.

I am more concerned about traffic accidents than a fire in my home, but I still have a smoke alarm in my home.

Nathan?

Here is the paragraph in it’s entirety.

“This while our citizens reduced to cowering in the corner and praying in “gun-free” zones as they are killed by — yup, you guessed it — CRIMINALS who ignore the laws. Tip-off, for the dimmer among us: criminals don’t obey laws. So I guess that “no guns” sign makes them feel better. It’s important to “feel” safe as you are shot.

Now Nathan?

This is meant to incite fear and indict reason.

At the recent school shooting, people did not cower in corners. They got the hell out.

Now you and GMC and all most of the other conceal carry folks have posted as to your similar desire to “be prepared”. But this is not what GMC did here.

He implied that everyone is afraid all the time in places where they cannot carry a gun. And that is just not true.

And Nathan you added:

“What exactly will you do if confronted with a guy just shooting people?

Try to run away? And what if you can’t run?”

Despite the fact that a gun was fired at me once as a result of anger and stupidity and another pointed at me once out of irrational late night fear?

I really do not obsess myself much on how likely it is I am going to be shot.

WS Clark,

Carrying a gun is second nature to me. I am not afraid, paranoid, or living my life in fear when I carry my gun.

I simply carry a gun, just like I wear underwear.

The only time I start wondering about things or my safety is when I go into a gun free zone which requires that I disarm.

That is when I start getting woried about my safety.

Unless there are armed gaurds and/or Police officers clearly present, I wonder who or what is going to protect me or anyone else in that gun free zone.

That is the point we make. A gun free zone only disarms the law abiding people like me.

Criminals don’t care.

Not to insult Nathan.

But I have a better poster to answer and am putting it off to fence with you.

I have an awful lot of things to worry about.

I’m a single dad for just a start.

That I or my son or anyone I know might be randomly shot is the very least of my worries.

Maybe you should ask yourself why that is?

I mean since it is such a concern to you. Why?

And…IF our society and your place in it makes this or “scary terrorists” your primary and motivating fear?

I just really cannot see you as connected with reality. Do you have a reason to be scared?

Are you part of the reason?

And I thought I was done.

Well Nathan your pal James aka “Regular” aka “JM” aka many other nics is right with you on conceal carry, etc.

He has also threatened to shoot me on multiple occasions.

Do I think he is a representative for you?

How should I know?

No one on your side ever calls him out.

And now I am done here.

WS Clark,

“Jeez, I never worry about my safety regardless of whether it is a gun free zone, a gun zone or a shooting range.”

I highly doubt you really thought that statement through before you posted it.

Just the other day you said you would never bring your Grandkids around me let alone ever meet me because you valued your safety.

Would you walk into a condmened building which looked like it was ready to fall?

There are a multitude of things you do, to protect yourself and those you love.

Trying to pretend like you don’t so you can win an argument on guns is absurd.

I don’t fault you for not wanting to carry a gun. I don’t care if you want to or not. I care when others don’t want me to be able to.

If you don’t worry about your safety enough to carry a gun, fine. Why do you worry so much about me being able to carry a gun because I do?

“I highly doubt you really thought that statement through before you posted it.”

As usual, Price, you have start with the insults. Phuck you.

“Just the other day you said you would never bring your Grandkids around me let alone ever meet me because you valued your safety.”

I would never bring my grandchildren around you because I do NOT like you and their mother would have a fit if she knew that you were going to be around. Trying to intimidate “liberals” with a gun is just flat out juvenile.

“Trying to pretend like you don’t so you can win an argument on guns is absurd.”

An idiotic point at best.

“Why do you worry so much about me being able to carry a gun because I do?”

I could care less if you had your Johnson surgically replaced with a Colt .44 Magnum.

You just are too thick headed to get the point – I do not care about you and your guns.

Pack a freakin’ bazooka for all I care.

Damn, for being an allegedly intelligent person, you are certainly stupid.

Get the picture – one last time.

(yelling now, jumping up and down, flailing arms)

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU AND YOUR GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh……………….

Those that opt for a permit to carry a weapon are in a small minority. If the democratic process determines, through our representatives, that gun owners should NOT be allowed to carry weapons in gun free zones, schools, businesses posted as such and government buildings, then democracy has spoken.

Gun owners need to get over it.

WS Clark,

I didn’t insult you. You keep making statements here like you are oblivious or simlply don’t care about your safety in an attempt to say you don’t worry enough to carry a gun.

My point is that you do care about your safety and there are a multitude of things you do which evaluate the safety of situations.

That is not hard to point out.

And just the other day you did indeed say you wouldn’t have your Grandkids around me because you not only don’t like me, but because you don’t trust me.

And here you go again with the vulgarity. Would your Daughter care if you spoke like this in front of her children or would you just tell her that you are from Detroit and that is how people talk?

WS Clark,

Once again you further the insults.

You constantly cry foul when there is even a hint in my post that I am insulting you. Yet you just blatantly call me names, swear, mock me, and insult me without what appears to be any regard what so ever.

Is it really so hard for you to be nice?

“Is it really so hard for you to be nice?”

For 99.9972% of the population, no.

For you, yes.

“Once again you further the insults.”

Check back, Price, you tossed the first insult. I never fire unless fired upon.

Well, except for “Regular” but he just an idiot anyway.

WS Clark,

All it takes is for me to disagree with you and you don’t simply fire back, you turn into some irrational vulgarity spewing machine.

You look for an excuse to be as mean and vulgar as you are.

Once again, it all comes down to character.

WS Clark,

I never defending his use of that term.

Wow! Congratulations Clark! Now if only you actually believed what you said enough to practice it when it comes to your irrational hatred and dislike of me simply because of disagreement on a public blog!

There might be hope for you yet.

I piss you off, because I disagree with you. I piss you off, because I don’t put up with your crap or back down.

You are like any other emotionally manipulative person. You cry, scream, and be as mean and vulgar as you can to try and control the situation and get your way.

Sorry, that is not how mature adults act. Especially mature adults who try to say they have any character.

Simply because this may or may not be a place only for adults doesn’t excuse your vulgarity. There are still people who don’t like that kind of language and would rather not read it.

I guess you don’t care about that do you?

Up to give my kid medicine.

I’ll have to get back to this one later.

For now? I ask Nathan if he would say the same things about me in person to my mother as she has read him say about me here.

WS Clark,

I ahve gotten several local businesses to take down their signs, I have contacted several others who did not, I am still in the process of getting some down now.

I have also contacted my representatives about my concealed carry concerns.

“I never defending his use of that term.”

The Hell you didn’t. Now you are just flat out lying. You defended his use of the term because you didn’t think it was a Jewish reference.

And you know damned well that it was an anti-Semitic slur – you knew that, but you chose to ignore it because I am from the Left and he is one of your good old ass kissing buddies.

“You are like any other emotionally manipulative person. You cry, scream, and be as mean and vulgar as you can to try and control the situation and get your way.”

Oh, bullshit. You use terms like ignorant and stupid, etc, to piss people off.

I use terms that are offensive to you to (drumroll) offend and piss you off.

I am just better at it than you are, with a greater vocabulary and the knowledge of how to use it.

What a joke you are, Price.

“There are still people who don’t like that kind of language and would rather not read it.”

Well, boo hoo. If the WE Blog folks were interested in cleaning anything up, they would start with a registry. They don’t and they don’t care. Check out the Opinion Line commentary section some time. They make me look like a Saint.

WS Clark,

You think you are better at using offensive language?

LOL

This isn’t the second grade anymore.

I NEVER defended his use of that term. I pointed out that there is something similar which is said that is not a slur.

I then even pointed out, immediately that it was in no way a defense of the use of the deragatory term nor was it a defense of him using it.

And you sit here wondering why I sometimes say you have a reading problem???

“This isn’t the second grade anymore.”

Jeez, Price, that sounds like a challenge. You up for a game of Dozens some time?

I’ll whip your ass so bad that you’ll have to run home to Daddy.

And……………………

“I NEVER defended his use of that term. I pointed out that there is something similar which is said that is not a slur.”

Liar. You know damned well what he meant and why he said it. His explanation changed twice and yet you STILL defend the use of the term.First it was because I gave HIM the Heebie Jeebies and then it was because I had the same.

He is a liar and you are either an idiot for buying the lies or you are a liar yourself.

You might want to remember that Jesus was a Jew also.

WS Clark,

I am not a liar. Go back to that thread and you show me where I defended the use of the deragatory term or him.

You can’t.

What you will find is me clearly explaining myself on how I thought there was another term which wasn’t deragatory and that I don’t condone his use of the term in a deragatory way either.

This is the problem with you and other liberals just like you.

I can sit here and tell you over and over again, that I don’t like the term, I wouldn’t use it, I don’t approve of it, and I don’t think others should use it either.

And yet you grasp onto something I said, and you clearly don’t understand, and try to use it to prove what?

You really do have a reading problem.

You are so wrapped up in your dislike and hatred for me that you can’t be reasonable.

Get help.

“You are so wrapped up in your dislike and hatred for me that you can’t be reasonable.”

My hatred for you is completely reasonable – you are simply the type of person I despise – smug, arrogant and holier than thou.

Completely reasonable.

What have you ever said that would make me feel ANY different?

Zip, nada, nothing, zilch.

That is YOUR game, Price, you deliberately set out to piss people off and then you whine like a little baby when someone doesn’t like you.

Cry me a river.

And Dozens is a verbal game – easily facilitated online.

No, I have no desire to meet you in person. Dang, the thought of it alone is revolting.

Why on Earth would I want to? Really? That is a serious question – why would I EVER want to meet you? There is no reason that I would even want to pretend to be civil to you and I am normally very civil to people I meet. Actually, I am very gracious, charming and polite, witty and an excellent conversationalist.

WS Clark,

I think you have it all wrong. It doesn’t bother me that you don’t like me.

I simply think you are absurd for not liking me based on simple disagreement on a public blog.

It is far from rational or reasonable.

And for someone so concerned with people being hateful, you are probably one of the most hateful here.

Practice what you preach brother.

Damn, are you TRYING to be funny, Price, or are you just so naive that the real world hasn’t come to visit you yet.

Dang, figure it out.

“I simply think you are absurd for not liking me based on simple disagreement on a public blog.”

Jeez, do you know of better reason not to like someone other than they are diametrically opposite of everything that you have stood for all of your life?

If that is not enough to dislike someone, I don’t know what is…………….

“I am watching episodes of Jericho on CBS right now.”

Jeez, I don’t watch television, most of it is just pablum for mindless morons that can’t think for themselves.

Right now, I am listening to a new CD my son bought me and having a few cold ones before bed.

I am sleeping alone tonight since I have an early appointment with a fifteen month old ball of fire and I get to spend six or seven hours alone with him. I will need all of my energy.

Oh, and I will try not to curse in front of him.

But then, I never do………………………

“it just goes to show you fear what you do not understand.”

Bullshit, GMC, I fear nothing but I will not waste my time with people I do not like.

And I don’t like either Price and could truly care less what they or you think of me.

I have my family and that is all I need.

The best senerio is all this stupid rednecks shooting each other because they think they are arm chair cops.
To all you wanna be cops!!!

To keep YOU is no gain, To get rid of YOU is no loss!