Voters did not pick based on electability

votingboothHere are some interesting statistics: 46 percent of New Hampshire voters thought Barack Obama was the Democratic presidential candidate most likely to win in November, and 36 percent thought Hillary Clinton was. Yet, as we know, Clinton won the primary. So why did some people vote for a candidate they thought would be less likely to win? Because more than 50 percent of Democrats said that what was most important about a candidate was the ability to bring about needed change, and only 7 percent said it was “the best chance to win in November.”

Of course, you can’t bring change unless you get elected. Still, it’s refreshing that voters went with their own priorities, rather than voting based on what they think others might do — especially when, as New Hampshire also showed, predictions of what voters will do aren’t always accurate.

11 Comments

  1. Kev
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    Hint to ALL Democrat voters- IF the candidate we pick LOSES in November, they will have NO ability to make change of any kind! Being able to WIN should be at the TOP of our list! And Obama can win easier than Hillary.

  2. J R
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    Obama is the compromise candidate. I cannot vote for him unless/until he shows he knows and refuses to compromise with the the enemy.

  3. Writerdog
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    It depends on whether people are serious about wanting change. It seems JR doesn’t but as to your point Kev. I am not saying this because of party membership. “The Democrats have a habit of turning a victory into a defeat!”. To be honest there are some of the strongest GOP Candidates I have seen in awhile.
    Huckabe said something last night which I hold as true. He said that his religious believes are a personal matter and it guilds his personal life. But it does not hold any sway with his duties as President, he would be the President of the United States and not of only the Religious among the people.

    At to the GOP, if Romney gets the nod or Giuliani, even Hillary will slide in without much trouble.
    It would drive some to vote solely for any Republican. Except for the moderates and Independents who lean toward Moderate. Man I would have to hold my nose to push that level! Obama would be the best hope or Edwards. Edwards specially as he is more inline with many of the Moderates views.
    But many on both side are seeing the need to stop this partisanship. They care more about the country then their own party. The rest can go to Riverside and throw mud pies at each other all day if that is what makes them happy!

  4. Regular
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    I wonder how many Democrats voted Republican so they could dilute the Republican leaders number of candidate votes?

    Wouldn’t be the first time it happened.

  5. ken
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    “…shows he knows and refuses to compromise with the the enemy.”

    JR

    In order to move forward — compromises have to be made — it is the soul of effective politicians —- what shouldn’t be compromised are core values …..

    The inability for our leaders to compromise has contributed much to the plight we are in now: … war with out end, no immigration policy of any worth, an economy / society that focuses entirely on accumulation of wealth (Heard some one say on tv the other day that one god that all Americans worship is money – seems that way sometimes)

  6. Posted January 11, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    “7 Point Swing for Clinton Over Obama in NH’s Diebold Precincts”

    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5540

    This is from a lefty blog, but the essential point is fairly easily confirmed or refuted. The implication, of course, is harder to confirm–but that’s been precisely the point about these machines. The evidence disappears with the flip of a switch, so go 01000110 01010101 01000011 01001011 yourselves!

    Not good.

    Voting fraud has never been a solely Republican sport (see Kennedy Daley Illinois dead 1960 ).

    Whaddya think, folks?

  7. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Rage, I think facially correlation, not causation. With that said, there are plenty of opportunities for mischief, whether paper ballots are used or electronic machines; the problem is that most folks understand the forms of mischief associated with paper ballots, and don’t understand all the potential forms of mischief available with electronic machines.

    On the variance; I saw something close to your link Wednesday morning. There are some explanations therefor which do not necessarily involve mischief. Use of machines vs. paper ballots in areas with higher population density, combined with the larger number of older women (the “swing” according to some pundits) living in the higher density areas is one.

  8. Wiseman
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Two things that I would like to see happen in this next election.
    One – Dynastic Politics broken, in the last two decades, presidential leadership has revolved around two families.
    No-one else matters, no-one else given a chance as capable intellects.
    Two – Religious terrorists removed out of official positions.
    Separation of the church and the states, our founding fathers had good reasons to include this in the Constitution.
    It is not because of religious persecution of not being able to practice their religion but because of the religious persecuting those that do not practice their form of religion.
    I hope that the voters have enough sense not to allow known history to repeat it self and take the risk to vote in real change.

  9. Econ101
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    The Clintons have made some racial statements that are finally getting them in trouble:

    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/south_carolinas_big_dog_threat.html

  10. Econ101
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    I predict Hillary will win the primary.

    I predict that Black voters will be, to some degree, upset with Hillary. Especially when she does not pick Obama as VP running mate.

    On top of that, the “spade work” comment, the “shucking and jiving” comment, the “drug use” comment — These comments come not just from Bill and Hillary, but from their campaign, I grant you.

    Still, some tapes of Clinton relatives using the “N” word, frequently, would tend to show that Bill and Hillary grew up looking down on Blacks.

    That, and the fact that Senator Fulbright, a segregationist, was Bill Clinton’s primary political guru, in Bill’s younger days.

  11. Kev
    Posted January 11, 2008 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    “”" wonder how many Democrats voted Republican so they could dilute the Republican leaders number of candidate votes?

    Wouldn’t be the first time it happened.”"”

    Actually I have seen more evidence the other way around. I saw a voter in Iowa that admitted he was a Republican and who voted in the Democrat primary because “I figure they are going to win and I don’t want her (Hillary) in there”.