Some thought Gov. Kathleen Sebelius sounded like Barack Obama in last night’s Democratic response to President Bush’s final State of the Union address. Today she is removing all doubt about where she stands in the party primary race by endorsing Obama at his campaign appearance in El Dorado, his maternal grandfather’s hometown. “I think he brings the hope and optimism that we really need to restore our place in the world, as well as to bring this country together and really tackle the challenges that we have,†Sebelius said via Associated Press, in a line that could have fit nicely into last night’s speech.
There is some question about whether Sebelius’ endorsement means much, even to Kansans, but it’s great to see our neglected state playing a role in this exciting campaign season.
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I think this, along with the endorsements from the Kennedy’s, is a big deal, and will help Obama’s candidacy immensely.
If you don’t want to be forever taken for granted Kansas, Rock The Boat (Vote), this year. We are not Red, We are not Blue, We are Neglected!
I predict she’ll be on the ticket, if Obama wins.
I plan to caucus this year, and have never done so before. I’m excited and a little nervous, since I don’t know what to expect.
That’s what I’ve been thinking too Phantom. I think that might be part of the reason she endorsed him rather than Clinton, because there was no chance she would be on Clinton’s ticket.
I plan to caucus next week too – but am still undecided just where I will end up.
Hmmm. Interesting. Hadn’t thought about the possibility of a quid pro quo. Could be. If there’s going to be any year when having two Midwesterners on the ticket is plausible, this will be it.
Obama for Prez, Sebelius for VP, Edwards for Attorney General, Richardson for Secretary of State. That would be a sweet combo.
Yes Ben, I’m still undecided as well. I am leaning more and more towards Obama. Some people say he won’t be tough enough to withstand the GOP attack machine in a general election, but honestly, I think he will be difficult for them to attack. And like it or not, people really do want change, and for some reason, he seems to inspire that in all ages, that feeling of hope for true change. Clinton doesn’t really give me that feel, and although I voted for her husband twice, I don’t like how he is handling himself in this campaign.
This if fun.
I kinda predicted it, as soon as the Obama/KS visit was announced.
Waiting on KFG and the Juvenile to chime in.
Well, If Kathleen is on the ticket, it will suck for Kansas Republicans in November. I admit that. Well, Gore and Edwards did not do well, with their “favorite son” states, respectively, — so I could be wrong there.
Bob Dole helped Kansas Republicans in many ways, when he was the nominee.
Will that “favorite son” status transfer down to the VP slot?
I don’t know. However, we are a small state. The Kansas GOP Congressional Delegation is secure — we can take the hit of Obama is the nominee.
— I am still, in my own, Machiavellian way, pulling for Hillary!
I do, however, have guarded respect for Democrats that have come out against Hillary.
And, I meant no disrespect.
Kathleen would be our “favorite daughter” not favorite son.
It’s alot of hot air. Good for Sebelius to snub another lady and her competition. Sometimes women can be so mean to each other. Just like high school.
Her state is near the bottom in rankings on education, economic development, more state employees, higher unemployment, higher taxes, and declining population.
But let’s put her near the white house, so some of that rubs off.
Can someone please tell me ANYthing she stated about current events or issues facing our nation other than her plea for socialized medicine?ff
“Waiting on KFG and the Juvenile to chime in.”
Econ I’m shocked that Kitty didn’t listen personally to J R, him being the main representative of liberal beliefs. Hard working man without health insurance for his family.
J R will call her a republican. Just like he called Kennedy (starting with JFK). Anytime someone doesn’t do what he thinks they should do, their republican!
Kind of like PaulTheCon calling any Republican he disagrees with a RINO.
I’m almost afraid to ask Paul, but why would Sebelius being on the ticket suck for Kansas Republicans?
TDT
TURNOUT is the name of the game, in politics.
This is one reason why opinion polls are often wrong.
“If the election were held today who would you vote for?—”
That question leaves out MOTIVATION and actual likelyhood that someone will VOTE!
A “personal connection” or geographic closeness actually helps turnout. That is why these candidates hop all over the country, saying the same dang thing they said at the last whistle stop. If personal contact did not matter, they could all do their campaigning with TV, radio and internet appeals.
Most of the time, the voter turnout in a particular state is HIGHER if one of the national candidates is FROM that state: “favorite son”.
Kathleen would increase voter turnout, for Democrats, in Kansas, IMHO.
Turnout is what matters.
Maybe with Sebelius on the ticket we can get rid of Tankeless Todd. Especially if the GOP candidate is ‘Tanker-Killer John’
So what you’re saying Paul, is that with Sebelius on the ticket, the Democrats just might win Kansas for the first time in over 40 years?
Ben
I think Romney will win.
McCain MUST win Florida. Romney does not have to win, in Florida.
Moreoever, the conduct of McCains campaign is going to hurt McCain, just as the conduct of the Clinton campaign has hurt Clinton.
TDT
I am saying that Republicans, in tough districts in the Kansas House, for instance, might have trouble.
More Dems will vote.
They will tend to vote D all the way down the ballot.
“Coat tails” is what that is called.
A Presidential ticket always has “coat tails” and many people get elected, down ballot, based on the top of the ticket.
“Coat tails” is the concept.
WEBLOG ate my last post. Sorry if I repeat.
Never changes horses in midstream. :D
No, not exactly.
I am saying that there is a “coat tail” effect.
Kathleen S. will tend to increase the Democrat vote, in Kansas, which might help some of your Democrat candidates, in Kansas, regardless of the top of the ticket results.
Shoot… I need to change registrations. Im still registered as a Repub… Can you change party affiliation still?
I would love to see an Obama/Sebelius ticket.
“And while the Kennedys may open the floodgates, they were hardly the first liberals to abandon the Clintons for Obama. In recent weeks the Clintons have watched many of their supporters drift to the young senator from Illinois.
Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the Democrats’ 2004 presidential candidate, endorsed Obama recently. On Tuesday, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius climbed aboard, the morning after she delivered the Democrats’ rebuttal speech to President Bush’s State of the Union address.
Robert Reich, former Clinton labor secretary, on his personal blog: “Bill Clinton’s ill-tempered and ill-founded attacks on Barack Obama are doing no credit to the former President, his legacy, or his wife’s campaign. Nor are they helping the Democratic party … Now, sadly, we’re witnessing a smear campaign against Obama that employs some of the worst aspects of the old politics.”
Columnist/Editor Jonathan Chait: “Am I starting to sound like a Clinton hater? It’s a scary thought. Of course, to conservatives, it’s a delicious thought.
Columnist Maureen Dowd: “It’s odd that the first woman with a shot at becoming president is so openly dependent on her husband to drag her over the finish line.
Al Sharpton: (to Clinton) time to shut up
Even novelist Toni Morrison, who once called Bill Clinton the “first black president,” has come out for Obama.” You Decide Fox
Hey J R! are all these libs now republicans?
Is anyone else having trouble posting at times?
Is anyone else having trouble posting?
always, TDT. and when try to resend, get note saying “you’ve already said that”
Tony – You can re-register on site at your caucus location, so no, it’s not too late.
kansas BD blog came to a halt 2 hours ago; I think it’s locked.
ghotiphaze – They had the nerve to tell me I was posting too fast, slow down. But they hadn’t even let the 5 previous posts through. I don’t know why they didn’t either.
I was thinking too many posts trying to get into the same blog at once and the server just dropped packets. Tried the same post, edited differently, five time on the BD blog.
I even went back and checked for the time warps like these blogs experienced 6 months or a year ago.
You can call me ‘fish’, TDT. I answer to it, and it’s easier to type.
Paul – you are probably correct that Romney will win. But I’d still love to see Giuliani pull it out.
The nice thing is, we don’t have a bad choice among the three.
Our Republic friends don’t even have one good one.
Very true MrC. I love watching them tear each other to pieces. I know you a big Edwards fan but also know that Wednesday morning you and I will be together behind whichever one wins.
I’m a fan of all three.
Actually, I’m already in regular contact with all three campaigns at the national level (I just can’t work with anyone locally or even at the state level). As soon as the nomination is decided, I’ll be sitting down with the winner’s staffers and working on raising money from the PACs I work with.
That goes double if the Republicans choose McCain.
If it’s Romney or Huckabee, I’m probably working Congressional races again.
Obama gave a good speech today, as did Kathleen. Sounds like his head and heart are in the right place, very optimistic.
I liked that reference upthread… Obm for Pres, Sebelius for VP, Edwards for Atty. Gen.,
Richardson for Sec. of State… How about Hillary for President Pro Tem (Harry Reid’s job)of the Senate — Maybe Kucinich as Sec. of Interior… Biden as Sec. of Labor; Gen. Clark as Sec. of Defense?? Sen. Dodd as Secy of Treas??
And give Jesse Jackson a REAL job.. Sec. of HHH… he could do that….
And maybe Colin Powell as Amb. to UN… He would know how to do that… And he could work good with Bill Richardson…
And then appoint Bill Clinton as official USA Icon at all foreign and domestic functions… He does give a good rousing speech!!
“And maybe Colin Powell as Amb. to UN”
That LIAR!? Not a chance!
I just got back from hearing him speak, hearing Sebelius endorse him and shaking his hand.
I used to be worried that Clintoon was unstoppable or that Edwards would siphon votes away and give the nomination to Hillary.
Not anymore.
He’s the Lightning Boy, the man with the mojo hand.
The more people hear him, the more they’ll back him.
Capn, MrC – might Edwards throw his support somewhere after next week?
“’And maybe Colin Powell as Amb. to UN’”
“That LIAR!? Not a chance!”
Ben,
The lying would have been much worse had Powell not stood up to Cheney/Bush. After all, his props before the U.N. were artist conceptualizations of mobile weapons labs and an audio recording of someone saying “heads up Abdul, the boss is headed your way.” The truthfulness of the testimony seemed shaky on its face.
Obama and Sebelius…no.
Why not? This gender consideration is out of control. Some women spout Hillary’s 30 years experience, how she’s been through the “wars” of opinion.
If they desire a first woman President, just say it! Hillary’s experience is an argument.
If Obama chooses Sebelius it’s to get the women vote but that won’t work. Are her politics known to the general America and name recognition? No.
There is a war on and with Cheney making the VP office military minded, going too soft that quickly is a bad move.
A hawk on environmentalism or military minded, someone with strong convictions on something! Wanting to fix the SEC so fraud doesn’t keep happening on the stock market. Someone in the White House HATING the investment banks, that’s the attitude to take with them.
The VP should have an attitude that’s beyond political consternations. Sebelius to me is purely politics and little else.
Cheney sucks but he did put the bully pulpit into the VP office that shouldn’t be diminished.
What did Al Gore and Dan Quayle stand for as V.P.s? Quayle never fixed his image. Al Gore became a spokesman for the environment.
To me, the V.P. needs more attitude than Sebelius projects.
Who will Obama pick, I don’t have a clue and curious about that.
The promotion of Hillary and Obama or Obama and Hillary stinks!
Well, well, well.
Look who ELSE likes Obama.
If Obama is the nominee, I will vote Green party.
FROM THE OPINIONJOURNAL ARCHIVES
PEGGY NOONAN
Out With the Old, In With the New
Obama and Huckabee rise; Mrs. Clinton falls.
Friday, January 4, 2008 12:01 a.m. EST
And so it begins.
We wanted exciting, we got exciting.
As this is written, late on the night of the caucuses, the outlines of the decisions seem clear: Barack Obama won.
Hillary Clinton, the inevitable, the avatar of the machine, lost.
It’s huge. Even though people have been talking about this possibility for six weeks now, it’s still huge. She had the money, she had the organization, the party’s stars, she had Elvis behind her, and the Clinton name in a base that loved Bill. And she lost. There are always a lot of reasons for a loss, but the ur-reason in this case, the thing it all comes down to? There’s something about her that makes you look, watch, think, look again, weigh and say: No.
She started out way ahead, met everyone, and lost.
As for Sen. Obama, his victory is similarly huge. He won the five biggest counties in Iowa, from the center of the state to the South Dakota border. He carried the young in a tidal wave. He outpolled Mrs. Clinton among women.
He did it with a classy campaign, an unruffled manner, and an appeal on the stump that said every day, through the lines: Look at who I am and see me, the change that you desire is right here, move on with me and we will bring it forward together.
He had a harder row to hoe than Mrs. Clinton did. He was lesser known, too young, lacked an establishment. He had to knock her down while building himself up. (She only had to build herself up until the end, when she went after his grade-school essays.) His takedown of Mrs. Clinton was the softest demolition in the history of falling buildings. I think we were there when it happened, in the debate in which he was questioned on why so many of Bill Clinton’s aides were advising him. She laughed, and he said he was looking forward to her advising him, too. He took mama to school.
And so something new begins on the Democratic side.
Who knows what will happen?
My take on next week now is that nothing will change. Since all the big states will allocate delegates by congressional district, no candidate is going to overwhelm anyone else.
We could be looking at the first multi-ballot convention since 1960.
Eliminate Taxes on Dividends and Savings. The basis of capitalism is savings, and Americans who do so should be rewarded.
Pass HJ Res. 23 to encourage savings over consumption.
Repeal the Death Tax. Attacking small businesses and breaking up family farms smothers growth and kills jobs.
Pass H.R. 2734 to make the Bush tax cuts permanent.
Cut Taxes for Working Seniors. Grandmothers and grandfathers working to make ends meet should keep all the fruits of their labor.
Pass H.R. 191 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the inclusion in gross income of Social Security benefits.
Eliminate Taxes on Social Security Benefits. That money belongs to seniors, not the government. They paid into the system for a lifetime, and they should be free to spend every penny as they see fit.
Pass H.R. 192 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 1993 increase in taxes on Social Security benefits.
Accelerate Depreciation on Investment. We need to help companies grow and create jobs.
Pass H.R. 4995 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to reduce corporate marginal income tax rates.
Eliminate Taxes on Capital Gains. Investment should be embraced and rewarded.
Pass H.J. Res 23 (The “Liberty Amendment”), proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens.
Eliminate Taxes on Tips. The single parents and working students who earn their income chiefly through tips deserve to keep all of their money. This tax on “estimated income” is unfair and should be ended.
Pass H.R. 3664 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide that tips shall not be subject to income or employment taxes.
Support the Mortgage Cancellation Relief Act. Working families who lost their homes should not be punished a second time with a big IRS bill.
Pass H.R. 1876 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from the gross income of individual taxpayers discharges of indebtedness attributable to certain forgiven residential mortgage obligations.
Sol – looking at only one of your issues: the ‘death tax’. With the large exemption before anything is taxed it generally doesn’t hit small businesss and farms. Especially when you add to that the marital exclusion.
Oh good grief.
CNN is calling Kathy a “rising Democrat star”!
A panderer in a back water red state and SHE’s a rising star?
Geez we’re doomed.
Ben –
The following summary is provided by the Congressional Research Service, which is a nonpartisan government entity that serves Congress and is run by the Library of Congress. The summary is taken from the official website THOMAS.
6/14/2007–Introduced.
Tax Increase Prevention Act of 2007 – Repeals the general termination date of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (i.e., December 31, 2010), thus making the tax reductions enacted by that Act permanent.
Repeals the termination date for provisions of the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 reducing income tax rates on dividends and capital gains.
Amends the Internal Revenue Code to make permanent: (1) the tax deduction for state and local sales taxes; (2) the tax deduction for tuition and related expenses; (3) the increased expensing allowance for small business assets and related provisions; and (4) the tax credit for increasing research activities.
Expresses the sense of the House of Representatives that the Committee on Ways and Means should report legislation on or before December 31, 2008, to simplify the federal income tax system.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?tab=summary&bill=h110-2734
BTW, JR, you’ve got the CONs so rattled around here, they can’t help but talk about you while you’re gone. . . .
That’s how you know you’ve won.
CONs aren’t just crazy
they’re Bush crazy.
Sol – that does not change the fact that even before the recent legislation there was a million dollar exemption.
I tried to post this with links, but this thing eats posts!
California is a state to win on Feb. 5th. Be competitive there goes a long way to nomination.
It’s interesting how Kansans will reflect on Obama admiring his maternal grandparents. Their family life story is recognizable to Kansans before Obama was born.
Red can cross over this election by recognizing something in Obama. People that knew his mother can see her a lot in him.
Obama has recieved endorsements
Seattle Times http://www.seattletimes.com
Oregon Herald http://www.oregonherald.com
San Fransisco Chronicle http://www.sfgate.com
San Jose Mercury News http://www.mercurynews.com
Sacramento Bee http://www.sacbee.com
Go to those sites and read their Obama for President opinions. That’s a nice list of Pacific Coast newspapers.
LA Times is going to endorse Presidential candidates first time in 34 years they said. They did endorse no experience Arnold for Governor, showing celebrity can make a difference in dry politics, giving better image to government office.
http://www.latimes.com
San Diego Tribune hasn’t chosen yet either.
http://www.signonsandiego.com
Why should anyone vote based on who others support? Are you missing your own brain?
Does a newspaper know better than you? (the WEBlog group here for example.) How about other politicians? Sports figures or Hollywood celebrities? Is there anyone here who will vote for Obama just because our Guv and Uncle Ted Kennedy endorsed him? Or McCain because the FL governor, and Sen. Brownback endorsed him?
If we’re supposed to care, I don’t.
Knock yerselves out worshiping governor “leadership”.
She’s getting roundly roasted on democratic websites and blogs for her wishy washy response last night.
I could post four different links, but why bother?
Oh yeah, and some of the roasting is being done by Obama supporters. She did NOT do herself any favors last night.
And if Hillary wins? Kansas is toast.
GO MAXINE!
One more thing…
If Obama does pick her for VP, it will be a monumental blunder. She brings NOTHING to the ticket but her gender and seven, count ‘em, seven votes in the EC.
The DLC has got to go if democrats expect to win in November.
kfg, I think it is only six votes in the EC that she could bring with her.
Could be VT. I thought we got one for each congressional district and senate seat. But I could easily be wrong :)
In any event, it’s not many votes. And if gender is the only criteria to be VP, well, we really are in sad shape.
With so many women supposedly supporting Obama, surely he could pick up a few more EC votes with someone else.
Whatever. I’m still not counting out Hillary. I’m sure she’s just sweating buckets over how kansas votes next week.
heheheh!
Mrage,
Actually, Arnie hasn’t done bad in California. He did bring both sides together on many issues. Of course, he had to use some pretty scary sh*t to do it, but it got done.
He is, though, going through some tough times with his medical insurance plan.
6 votes – correct. The other thing Sebelius might bring would be geographic balance: Big-City Urban Senator and small-town country Governor.
“Today the audacity of hope had its rendezvous with destiny. The Kennedy clan anointed Barack Obama a son of Camelot.”
. . . ABC’s goose-pimply David Wright, fawning and gushing over Obama’s empty shell of a left wing extremist candidacy
[CHANGE=back to the early ‘60s??]
. . .
Meanwhile, Obama is trying to buy the Latino vote with driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.
[Who knew the President of the USofA could issue fraudulent driver’s licenses?]
I dont think anyone on either coast, where most of the EC votes are located, really care much about that “small town” stuff.
I see how well edwards and huckabee are doing in the urban areas…
OH god help me. Parkay and I are on the same side? Jesus WEPT!
If Obama gets the nomination, he will look for a southern V.P. Edwards doesn’t do that role too well, so hopefully he will not be asked.
Well probably not on the same side. I’m sure parkay would rather eat a big bowl of dirt than vote for a democrat.
“Meanwhile, Obama is trying to buy the Latino vote with driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.
[Who knew the President of the USofA could issue fraudulent driver’s licenses?]”
Got some backup for that claim?
ksfg – I’m also thinking of the industrial MidWest states like Ohio, PA, etc. Lots of Electoral votes there.
She would have great symbolism, being a woman and being a dem. gov. of a red state.
All of this talk of endorsements makes me wonder. Why would anyone vote based on who others support?
Does a newspaper know better than you? (the WEBlog group for example.) How about other politicians? Sports figures or Hollywood celebrities? Is there anyone here who will vote for Obama because our Guv and Uncle Ted Kennedy endorsed him? Or McCain because the FL governor, and Sen. Brownback endorsed him?
Maybe it’s the arrogance of the media believing that we should care what they think.
I’ll announce my endorsements later.
Barrack was impressive in El Dorado today. (And he pronounced the town the Kansas way.) It wasn’t his standard stump speech, even to the point he had a little trouble with the teleprompter. He spoke of his grandparents (He was from El Dorado, she from Augusta), and really connected with a diverse crowd of young and old, Black, Brown, and White. I saw some peple I know were Republic Party-members and I saw some of them stand and applaud. It was the damnedest thing you’d ever expect to see in Kansas.
I understand your frustration and fears, “J R,” but sometimes your rhetoric sounds like you won’t be happy ’til a candidate promises to put all Republic Party advocates in cattle cars and concentration camps.
I’m going into my caucus ready to stand for John Edwards, I think. But I’ll join the Obama corner willingly and enthusiastically if need be.
Thousands of Kansans stood in a bitter-cold white-out blizard today to rally for Senator Obama. He warmed the room. Something historic is happening in the Democratic Party.
“outlander” –
I explained yesterday the realpolitk implications of endorsements from Super Delegates to the Democratic National Convention.
Please try to keep up.
Oh… Dang, I almost never miss a Monkeyhawk post. Or was it “almost never read…”. Oh well. Cheers!
bada bing!
“‘almost never read…’. Oh well. Cheers!”
Some really good endorsements, you just can’t buy.
“Something historic is happening in the Democratic Party.”
Yeah. It’s taking the abuse the Republicans have heaped on all of America these last many years and is now asking for another helping.
Another word would be surrender.
Obama will get eaten alive by ANY of the con nominess.
I originally come from the right. The fact that I had a heart would not let me stay there. I am telling you all that weakness is something you dare not show those people.
Cattle cars and camps? No. MOST people who vote Republican are just misguided folks who do not vote their and their country’s best interest.
Ya don’t punish people because they are not very bright.
But the CORE of the GOP? It needs smacked vigorously about and sent to a corner for a few decades until it can learn to play well with others.
Obama won’t do that. I’ll tell you the truth. If I had gone to see him today and had the chance? I would have asked him why he didn’t run as a Republican since he thinks they are folks with ideas and can be worked with. He is turning his back on the strongest elements of the base of the party to reach out to the most vile people. Maybe he has math that says the squishy middle outnumbers the party passionate.
Oh and as to Kathy’s little stepford moment last night.
That had to be the WORST little bit of promter reading I have seen in my life. She had all the fire of a rutabega but not as appealing.
“PLEASE! Work WITH us Mr. President!”
Pitiful.
Obama has simply calculated that Leftist Libs that support the old school Liberal Democrat ain’t working no more.
The flag burning-no bra wearing-protest marching -ugly American-tshirt wearing-koolaid drinking Leftist Lib of the 60s mindset is a dying breed.
Politics is about reality, bedtime stories and the fables of the “other guy did it” have become tiresome in the American Publics’ mind.
Rancor used to be a contact sport enjoyed by the Leftist Libs, but when the majority of the Dems found out that the rancorous were non-productive and destructive in leading the country to a proper direction, they started looking for greener pastures.
The Leftist Lib side of the Democratic Party is heading towards the Labrea Tar pits there in Hollyfornia. Soon there will be democratic bones and remnants of patchy skin floating.
So Obama’s a uniter not a divider.
Hmmmm, haven’t we heard that before somewhere?
Check out his stance on abortion posted earlier.
Obama is far more liberal than Clinton would ever be!
Oh yeah?
Herndon asks Obama directly, about Kathleen being his VP, interview on ch 10 news at 10. Bet he doesn’t get a direct answer.
What good does it do to remain divided with the “we’re the good guys and they’re the bad guys” attitude? Americans needs to come together to overcome the problems that have been heaped upon us in the last 7 years. I’m sick of the Bushes and I’m sick of the Clintons and all the baggage that comes with them. Just looking at how they’ve conducted themselves in the primary has been a huge turnoff to me.
Someone who is young, positive, optimistic, and not into partisan politics or mud slinging would be a refreshing change. Obama is looking better to me all the time.
“Obama is far more liberal than Clinton would ever be!”
Good! Not that I ever doubted it.
Jeff Herndon asks Obama the direct question, will Kathleen be his VP. On ch 10 at 10, bet he doesn’t get a direct answer- most likely a teaser.
Regular,
I live in California and I have no idea what the heck you are talking about.
Why is it always people in the least populated states claim to be mainstream, and think the most populated states are the fringe? Wouldn’t it logically be the other way around???
Wow. That was a surreal experience.
Got off the phone with a “Tiahrt Town Hall” meeting.
1st caller–Old guy: No GD amnesty for those stinking Mexicans!
Thank you, Jesus Jr. “For what you do unto the least of these, ye do unto me.”
Unless they’re Mexicans, of course.
2nd caller–New geeser: Todd, go to 78mpg.com. Government is to blame for not letting engineers market a gasoline VAPOR engine that gets 100 mpg. All the patents were bought by big oil companies.
Say, science idiot. Gasoline doesn’t burn. Only gasoline VAPOR does. That’s why it’s turned into vapor in a carburator (or now fuel-injection) system.
Not only that, Mr. Logic, why is government responsible for technology that is bought by big business?
3rd caller–Whiny female: I’m a baby boomer whose kids are grown up. Why does everybody have their hand in MY POCKET for education for THEIR kids. We paid our dues. Enough taking from me to give to them.
Dear Dumbbeyotch, who paid for your kids when they were going to school? For that matter, who paid for YOU back when “butter” was a food group?
And nothing ruins the value of one’s biggest assest, one’s HOUSE, faster than bad neighborhood schools.
So if you want your house’s value to fall to about 1/2 of what it is now, go with the “I shouldn’t have to pay taxes for your kid” idea.
Not only is it unconscionable; it’s also bad economics.
4th caller–younger female: I like the idea of people who have kids getting more money with the stimulus package. But won’t this make welfare moms want to have more kids so they can make more money?
Dear Mrs. Limbaugh, you are nucking futs.
******
At this point, I had had enough and hung up. Every single caller was selfish, selfish, selfish and mean-spirited about it.
Must have been a Republican calling list . . .
“Obama has simply calculated that Leftist Libs that support the old school Liberal Democrat ain’t working no more.”
etc. ect.
Re: Regular
DNFTT
Kee-rap–
My post that I spent five minutes typing just flippin’ vanished.
That totally sucks.
Note to self: copy message before posting.
Kee-rap.
Now my posts are getting EATEN too.
I wonder if that’s why the post counts seem to be lower than they used to be . . .
How about she end up in the cabinet – an EPA post?
Wow, Regular, you said something I agree with. Obama’s sugar coated, Martin Luther King reminiscent hope speeches are just feel good candy to lure voters. I wish I’d hear the guy actually talk about how he is going to change things than just spout off the same old change rhetoric. Matter of fact, all the candidates except McCain and Paul have sugar coated feel good speeches, sounds like there coaching a pee wee football team. I think McCain is an honorable man very deserving of respect, but he’s on the side of the type of aggressive nation building war campaigns that Bush is. Its pretty obvious with his bomb bomb Iran song, and mentioning that we’ll stay in Iraq 100 years if we have to. Obama may just get the nomination from being young, black, martin luther king, preacher type speeches, and a lot of smiling.
Obama might just get the nomination from being young, black, preachy type martin luther king speeches, a lot of smiles, and a bunch of change rhetoric. All very bad reasons to vote for anybody. I liked the guy at first, but I haven’t heard what the hell his real positions are, he and hilary haven’t laid out any of their cards of the table. Their trying to win voters through propaganda techniques and sadly its working.
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Obama is more liberal than Hillary.
This is very true.
My heart wants Obama, however, for what it would say about our country. I trust the man. I disagree with him, but I see in him something that Nancy Reagan said about Ronald Reagan: “He is a man without guile”. He does and says what he thinks is best, and he lets the chips fall. He can disagree without taking offense, and without being disagreable.
No, I do not agree with him. He does give the impression, however, that he will listen to a good argument, and will carry no grudge, when he doesnt get his way.
This can not be said of Hillary Clinton.
My heart says Obama, because he has more character and honesty.
My head says Hillary, because I think we can BEAT her! Machiavelian, but that is what I think.
The Juvenile was never “on the right” — he is a man without a Party, as he always has been.
Noboby agrees with him.
Obama is an honest liberal.
Hillary is a dishonest opportunist.
Not really a hard pick.
An honest liberal will admit it, when he has not won an argument.
This is wonderful news! Sebelius is very popular even with many Republicans and her endorsement carries weight. And Obama has made it quite clear that he has no intent of writing off his “native” state of Kansas- now or in November if he wins the primary.
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ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) – Following his third place finish in Florida, former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani is expected to drop out of the presidential race today and endorse Sen. John McCain.
Last night, Giuliani stopped short of announcing he was stepping down, but delivered a valedictory speech that was more farewell than fight-on.
The former mayor finished a distant third to the winner, McCain, and close second-place finisher Mitt Romney. Republican officials said Giuliani would endorse McCain on Wednesday in California. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in advance of the public announcement.
FOr some reason, I cannot seem to post a “cut and paste” news item from another site. However
Just FYI, it was two articles (AP) that Edwards and Guiliani were out as of this week
why can I not post!
I would like to believe that she would be on the ticket, and while I think Obama reacted well to the suggestion, it was by no means a given.
I think Sebelius has been a remarkable governor and would make an outstanding running mate for Obama. But I also worry that it harbors too much change for a society that has never elected a black man or a woman to it’s highest offices.
And what is it governor “leadership” has done that makes you think she has been remarkable? Other than being a blue woman in a red state?
Is gender all she brings to the ticket? ‘Cause as discussed yesterday, it sure as hell isnt EC votes.
She AND Obama are just “born to be mild”.
As far as I can see, all less-than-chatty-kathy has done is exploit a suicidal division in the kansas republican party. And then replace real democrats with newly converted republicans.
If that is governor “leadership”s m.o. I doubt it will work on a national level. Once a repuke nominee is chosen, you wont see that kind of division that is killing the kansas gop.
The national republicans will eat her and obama alive. And they wont even chew! Just swallow them whole and lick the blood off their chops for another four or eight years.
Is that what you want?
I’ve had about six people who were either Republicans or non-voters ask me how to register to vote for Obama.
If this Chicago grass-roots organizer who accepts no lobbyist money is not liberal enough for you, well remember, “the perfect is the enemy of the good.”
FDR isn’t running, last time I checked, and Edward’s “eat the rich” message didn’t catch fire.
I unapologetically choose to back the guy who offers hope and change.
Yep Capn, I had to re-register, just so I could vote against Hillary in the gathering.
I guess the real problem with bushco and the republicans in congress is that the democrats just didnt say “please work with us” often enough.
After reading various posts here, I think Obama’s appeal is that he is the “none-of-the-above” alternative. I will need more than an “I’m not Hillary/Bush” from him to be able to support him.
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