Regents feeling student pain

collegetuitionThe Kansas Board of Regents may not be ready to cap costs at state campuses, but it’s right to be talking about when enough is enough. The issue could come up at the meetings Feb. 13-14, in advance of the board’s traditional late spring approval of tuition hikes for the fall. Tuition and fees have more than doubled at the University of Kansas and Kansas State University since 2002, though other institutions have seen smaller increases. Meanwhile, the state’s share of support for university operations has been shrinking. “It’s a tax on kids,” said Jill Docking, the Wichita member of the board. And those kids who can’t pay it either must load up on student-loan debt or pass on college.

13 Comments

  1. Political_mama
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    College will soon be back to where only the priviliged can afford it.

    Perhaps employers could do their part by not asking for a degree for every job that could be promoted into from within. Move people up, by merit and ability…not by education.

  2. johngalt
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    Why aren’t we looking at how much the Regents spend on non-educational activities?

    Are professors teaching less? Are they building more bulidings for fewer students?

    We need to ask more questions.

  3. Student in Pain
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    I can honestly say that I am one of those students that has had to load up on student loan debt. At this rate I will be paying student loans until my death. The cost of college continues to rise and my employer requires a degree for me to move upward – even though I have the experience and knowledge necessary. I cannot even imagine what the cost will be when my children enter college – I will probably have to work 4 jobs just to afford the student loans at that point. Why must the cost be so prohibitive?

  4. Posted January 23, 2008 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    The option that students have that a lot don’t take advantage of, is going to a Junior College to get their general education courses out of the way.

    Most Universities and Junior Colleges have insight into what is offered and give 100 percent credit for courses taken.

    The cost is much lower at Junior Colleges.

    The old joke about taking ten years to finish college works as well. That is, instead of going into debt, the student has a job and takes night school courses and courses available during their non-working hours.

    There are options, they are just not as popular for some who want the convenience of getting it done at a major university.

  5. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    Just how many times each day do the WE editorial staff talk with jill docking? I know she has YOU all on speed dial, but you have HER number on speed dial too?

    And can someone please tell me why we give a buggered rat WHAT jill docking thinks? On ANY subject? Remind me of her claims to fame, other than being married into the Docking family and being governor “leadership’s” best friend?

    Why doesnt the WE just put jill on staff? Then she could write her anti-Clinton, pro-sebelius stuff directly instead of by proxy.

    or sock puppet

  6. American Way
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    I sure enjoyed paying those higher costs starting in 2000. Funded two kids at the same time during part of the run up.

    We should all ask for a better return on those bucks (private and public). We should see an INCREASING JOB PLACEMENT RATES for the additional money spent to “improve education”.

    Not at KU. They have a great program to help students spend money, but very low key assistance at placing graduates. Fortunately, our combined family networking ensured good professional jobs.

    And Rock Chalk Jayhawks tonite at 6PM.
    18-0!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Tom Paine
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    The board of regents could slash tutuion tommorow but they wont

  8. Tom Paine
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Regular, your right about juco and people who become professional students, theirs also millions of dollars in grants and scholarships that go unused because most people dont bother checking on them

  9. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    The issue of student loans as a part of financial aid has been around since I was an undergraduate at KU, and likely before. I graduated with a substantial amount of loan debt for those days, which took me 10 years to repay. The issue now is the relatively larger proportion of the costs of attendance (tuition, fees, etc.) that is borne by the students and their families, whether directly or indirectly (loans, for this purpose).

    One major change in the 40 years which have passed since I matriculated at KU is the proportion of the “total cost” of a student’s education directly funded by the legislature through appropriations. IIRC, back in the day, that proportion was around 30%. Several years ago, this had dropped to 25%, shifting a bigger part of the burden upon the students. I need to look, but I’m speculating the state funding is now less than 25%.

    If a college or university has the endowment resources to do so, I would suggest that it consider taking the step, in whole or in part, that Colby did and eliminate (or reduce, in many cases, given the much larger enrollments) the amount of the loans contained in the financial aid packages. This is in anticipation that the legislature will not increase the base funding to return to the 25% level (if, indeed, it is below 25% as I think it is).

  10. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Tom Paine, there are many grants and scholarships which go unclaimed annually. There are reasons for this which extend beyond folks not looking for or not applying for the same.

    Many of these grants and scholarships are small in amount, limited to a term of one year, and non-renewable. Many are also limited to residents of a particular county/other political subdivision; there are those which require the applicant to attend a certain college or university, undertake a particular major, etc.

    From the experience of our two daughters in “looking for money”, we as a family didn’t find a plethora of generally available funds just laying around waiting for applicants. We found a lot of potential sources with the limitations described.

  11. mrcontroversy
    Posted January 23, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    This is what happens when you allow the uneducated, education-hating, ultra-hate wing of the Republican party to control the Kansas House.
    What is Melvin Neufeld’s educational background? I’ve tried to check, and I can’t find anything.
    Sharon Schwartz, chair of the Education Committee doesn’t have a college education.
    Neither does Brenda Landwehr, who proudly proclaims she graduated from North High.
    Are these the kind of people we want running our state?
    Heaven forbid we ever get the best and the brightest!

  12. Posted January 24, 2008 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    Did one Kansas newspaper report how much the Regents pay the leaders at the state universities?

    The Hays Daily News reported two of the numbers:
    http://www.hdnews.net/Story/salaries101907

    Why can’t the press find this memo:

    10/18/2007
    MOTION FOR FY 2008 CEO COMPENSATION DECISION:

    . . .

    State Dollars Compensation Cap

    Chancellor Robert Hemenway
    $260,660 $332,051

    President Jon Wefald $249,071 $308,256

    President Don Beggs $217,942 $270,400

    President Ed Hammond
    $197,652 $218,400

    President Tom Bryant $197,652 $218,400

    President Mike Lane $197,600 $208,000

    President Reggie Robinson
    $181,000

  13. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted January 24, 2008 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Well, according to testimony of the Chancellor provided January 31, 2007, in FY 2005 the state appropriations funded 24% of the costs of running KU. That’s the most recent information I can find, and is only one university’s case.

    http://www.news.ku.edu/2007/january/31/chancellortestify.shtml