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Chalk it up to Huckenfreude.
The Republic Party fat cats are faced with a candidate who actually *believes* all that stem-cell and gay marriage and “Christian” nation crap. And the Huckster seems to actually believe the poor are people, too!
Richard Viguerie calls Huckabee a “conservative socialist,”
As someone noted on another blog: “The Republican establishment wined and dined the evangelical fundamentalists, then climbed into bed and made sweet, sweet love (with the lights off while thinking about Jessica Simpson) for 25 years. Thursday night the God Squad announced—via Huckabee’s win—that they were pregnant with GOP power. That’s gonna be one ugly kid. And one horrified daddy.
LOL MH you are so quickly becoming one of my favorite posters! Great imagery and spot on comments.
Solar Physicist and Climatologist Douglas V. Hoyt, who coauthored the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change, and has worked at both the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), has developed a scorecard to evaluate how accurate climate models have been.
Hoyt wrote, “Starting in 1997, we created a scorecard to see how climate model predictions were matching observations. The picture is not pretty with most of the predictions being wrong in magnitude and often in sign.”
http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/climate-change.htm
A March 1, 2007 blog post in the National Review explained how the scoring system works. “[Hoyt] gives each prediction a ‘yes-no-undetermined score.’ So if the major models’ prediction is confirmed, the score at the beginning would be 1-0-0. So how do the models score when compared with the evidence? The final score is 1-27-4. That’s one confirmed prediction, 27 disconfirmed, and 4 undetermined,” the blog noted. Hoyt has extensively researched the sun-climate connection and has published nearly 100 scientific papers in such areas as the greenhouse effect, aerosols, cloud cover, radiative transfer, and sunspot structure.
http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDZiZWVjYTU1MGQwNmNhODU5MDI0NWMzY2NhZTI4ODE=
To see Hoyt’s climate model scorecard, go here:
http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/scorecard.htm
I suspect that incidents like this are much more common than incidents in which the gun owner actually protects his home or family.
NATCHEZ, Miss. — A Natchez man shot and killed his wife when he mistook her for an intruder in their home, according to police.
http://www.wapt.com/news/14962750/detail.html
Door King
You would be wrong. If you care to know the facts I can stear you in the direction where you can find them. If you want to stumble on in ignorance knock yourself out.
Since Jan 1 birthdays can be announced here, I don’t think I’m out of line to announce a Jan 5 birthday.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICAN WAY!
#29 today!
Oh so now Max is joining J R in making this his personal email blog page?
Here I thought F. Futer was J R’s butt buddy.
I didn’t know it was Max!
What’s the matter Max. Cat got your tongue?
You are buddies with J R aren’t you?
Bestest of friends on the weblog? You both take the blog as your personal posting page. But unlike J R, I believe you do KNOW how to use email for personal
postings.
I’ll tell you what Heckler. You find stories where someone used a gun to protect a life, and I’ll find stories where someone killed or injured someone with a gun by accident, or stupidly, and we’ll see who can post the most stories. The only criteria is that in either case, the gun must be fired, and cops don’t count.
I’ll start with West Va.
Now it’s your turn.
This new format is indeed a disappointment.
They still allow posts with fake e-mail addresses and no registration.
This means all the old problems are still with us, like nic-stealing and sock-puppets.
Not only that, without registration or log-in, The Eagle can’t ban any post-ers. Nor can it stop the “freehotchix.com” spam.
Enjoy the troll magnet, folks, because that’s what it still is.
Door King
http://keepandbeararms.com/default.asp
Page half way down to “Operation Self Defense”. It’s a nationwide catalog of self defense stories drawn from local papers, radio, and TV stations. Stuff you won’t hear on national news outlets.
Their archives go back into the year 2000.
Have a look.
Good point, Door King.
What the NRA types never mention is that suicides by guns (especially handguns) are one of the leading causes of death in the US.
The medical field has noted for many years that guns are a “vector” for morbidity and moribunity just like fleas (the plague) and mosquitos (malaria).
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Uh oh . . . looks like The Eagle has a problem here.
Or maybe not
*gasp*
New format – same ol’ KapnKremlin. Whiney as ever.
Why not stick to meaningful issues and ignore the minutia?
My gosh, am I ever a dumb ass or what?
Somebody tell me, is this sh*t or shinola?
Here, let me eat it.
Damn, it was sh*t.
Good thing I didn’t step in it . . .
Capn
“The medical field has noted for many years that guns are a “vector” for morbidity and moribunity just like fleas (the plague) and mosquitos ”
If this were true why didnt suicide decline in Great Brittain and Australia after they banned virtually all guns, particularly handguns?
People’s level of ignorance never ceases to amaze me when they criticize the NRA without even knowing what they truly represent. The NRA is the most law abiding, non-violent, self-policing, freedom loving organization in existence. The NRA supports our Constitutional freedoms, defending them from all level of government interference in our lives. They are most vocal of course concerning the 2nd. Amendment, but defend all the others as well. The NRA believes in the people of this country and that they can and should rise to the level of the freedom we have been given by our Constitution, restricting and punishing only those that don’t live up to that responsibility, not law abiding citizens. They realize that our ‘government leaders’ are just people too, and are frequently influenced and motivated by power and personal motives not in the best interest of the citizens of this country but instead for themselves in many situations.
Stocks tanked Friday, with the Dow shedding over 250 points, after a weaker-than-expected December jobs report exacerbated recession fears.
The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) tumbled almost 2 percent. The broader S&P 500 (INX) index lost around 2.5 percent. The Russell 2000 (RUT.X) small-cap index fell 3.2 percent.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/04/markets/markets_0500/index.htm?cnn=yes
Here comes the BUSH recession.
It appears the only problem here so far, other than the Blog being new is CapnAmerica and his troll posts.
Nows your chance Eagle – dump that buffoon into the refuse bin.
Steal from the rich!
Bush is bad!
Handouts for everyone!
From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs!
“Here comes the BUSH recession.”
Should we short the market now XXX?
Can You Count On These Machines?
Then at 10 p.m., the server suddenly froze up and stopped counting votes. Cuyahoga County technicians clustered around the computer, debating what to do. A young, business-suited employee from Diebold — the company that makes the voting machines used in Cuyahoga — peered into the screen and pecked at the keyboard. No one could figure out what was wrong. So, like anyone faced with a misbehaving computer, they simply turned it off and on again. Voilà: It started working — until an hour later, when it crashed a second time. Again, they rebooted. By the wee hours, the server mystery still hadn’t been solved.
Worse was yet to come. When the votes were finally tallied the next day, 10 races were so close that they needed to be recounted. But when Platten went to retrieve paper copies of each vote — generated by the Diebold machines as they worked — she discovered that so many printers had jammed that 20 percent of the machines involved in the recounted races lacked paper copies of some of the votes. They weren’t lost, technically speaking; Platten could hit “print” and a machine would generate a replacement copy. But she had no way of proving that these replacements were, indeed, what the voters had voted. She could only hope the machines had worked correctly.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/magazine/06Vote-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin
Look for a republican win in the upcoming elections?
The vote is compromised.
“Should we short the market now XXX?”
Outlander, I suggest you start figuring out ways to blame this on Clinton.
“Look for a republican win in the upcoming elections?
The vote is compromised.”
Um.. I sometimes have problems with my printer. No offense XXX, but Dems don’t need to start make excuses yet!
Thanks Max. It’s a new year in many ways for me.
It appears the Eagle has a new year planned for their website. So far, the changes appear to be mostly cosmetic.
Old dogs can learn new tricks.
CapnAmerica
Posted January 5, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink
This new format is indeed a disappointment.
Well, it appears Capn has discovered his capabilities to continue on as the Weblog’s biggest troll. Wish he’d just stick to posting on the thread topics – instead of focusing
on other posters.
As I have just been guilty of.
I dunno, “Door King” –
You just might be right.
Here’s what happened *yesterday* in the United States:
CO: Rebecca “Becky” Yanez, 48, of Fort Collins and her 11-year-old cousin who were shot and killed while celebrating New Year’s Day early Tuesday were both victims of the same stray bullet, fired by another holiday reveler.
TX: Cheri Vaughn, 44, of Liverpool was accidentally shot in the leg one minute before midnight New Year’s Eve from a .30-30 rifle her husband apparently was cleaning.
IN: 19-year-old man was hospitalized after police say he accidentally shot himself in the neck after showing off his new .38 caliber handgun.
AL: After changing story, 18-year-old Michael Newman told deputies he simply shot at movement in a pine thicket thinking it was a deer, but the shot from his .270 caliber rifle struck his friend, 15-year-old Joey Drescher in the chest killing him.
MI: Jerry Croone, 17, a Homecoming King, was accidentally shot by his 16-year-old friend as they were getting ready to leave a New Year’s Eve party around 11:30 p.m.
MT: The Toole County Sheriff is investigating the death of two males which appear to be a murder suicide.
DE: 67-year-old Morgan Gunther shot and killed his 58-year-old wife Valerie then committed suicide.
OH: Clarence Ross, 75, used a Colt .38-caliber revolver to shoot his wife of 50 years, Shirley Ross, 71, who was living in a nursing home then turned the gun on himself.
SC: 63-year-old Leslie “Ted” Davis Jr. shot his 59-year-old wife Theresa, who was diagnosed with cancer, in the head then shot himself; the family dog was also shot to death.
VA: Police charged Vernon Ray Chappelle Sr.with taking four people, including two children, hostage in Churchland at gunpoint.
Please. I support the right to keep and bear arms. It’s in the bill of rights, and we can’t give an inch anywhere. I only wish those who supported this right supported the rest of the bill of rights. Many of these people want to amend the Constitution to redefine marriage, or to make flag burning a crime. They don’t blink an eye when it comes to racial profiling, or the trashing of search and seizure rights when it comes to drug crimes. And lets keep the facts straight, if there are any left to find.
A video of what appears to be an object trailing a dark spiralling plume behind it and plummeting toward Prince Edward Island’s Northumberland Strait is the focus of intense speculation.
A P.E.I. couple captured the strange event on video on Dec. 26, but witnesses and experts alike aren’t certain what they’re observing.
“We were kind of dumbfounded,” said Tony Quigley, the P.E.I. farmer who videotaped the apparent unidentified flying object with his wife, Marie Ford-Quigley.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=2fc97f05-2ea9-459b-8c19-fcc786680aa0&k=81956
They’re watching us XXX Be very careful!!
Not a problem: It’s Giuliani crash landing after tanking in Iowa.
I remain strong for John Edwards although I’m realistic enough to think there won’t be enough time to overcome Obamarama in time to succeed in New Hampshire. Senator Clinton’s traditional approoach of campaign bucks and organization might give her a rebound and Edwards will have a tough time if she finishes second.
That said, I remain strong for Edwards because he’s the stronger advocate for getting things done that need to be done in America. Obama inspires our better angels, but a President Edwards would get those angels back to work.
I don’t need a President to hope for me, I want a President to fight for me.
The new WEblog format is 2 steps forward and one back.
I like the page color, and we can now use html tags to modify the font, but what the heck happened to the “preview” button?
Testing the HTML
Big text
Click Me!
Donald Duck
Box 555
Disneyland
They still allow posts with fake e-mail addresses and no registration
I will test your theory with a fake email and see if allows me to post
works
didnt work w the old system
So, when American troops are killed by their Iraqi counterparts, is it considered death by Friendly Fire, Death by insurgents, or Death from Al-Quida terrorist? What would General Petraus classify it as, or would it depend on the poin of entry and exit of the wounds?
Apparently the new WE Blog format is merely a cosmetic change, nothing of substance. And I agree, the preview button was a big help to get the punctuation and spelling right.
Back to the real world. It appears the situation in Kenya, Africa is mending a bit. Both sides are moderating their positions slightly thanks to participation of U.S. assistant secretary of state for African affairs, Ms. Jendayi Frazer. Apparently the current Kenya President Kibaki and possible President-elect Odinga are considering to submit the situation to International Mediation.
Perhaps a way can be found for these two fellows, each with a vociferous following, to share duties in Kenyan leadership.
Its apparent now there will be need for a massive cleanup and raising standards of living in the gigantic slum in the capital of Nairobi, Kenya.
Additionally, its important to preserve this former bastion of peaceful democracy in east central Africa, surrounded as it is by warring nations.
For what its worth, Kenya is 90% Christian. English is the main language. Nile River passes through. It had a growing economy.
agHawk: Looking at worldwide macro numbers there is no valid co-relation between gun ownership and deaths. There is a relationship between deaths and violent societies though. Leaving out US stats, Canada has 31% ownership of guns, Australia 16% and the UK 6%, but their murder rates are almost identical. Countries right behind the US in per capita ownership are very, very low in murder stats., ie Yemen, etc. where “justice” is swift if not accurate. The US ranks no. 24 in murder rates but if you go micro stats, Chicago with the same population as Toronto suffers about 8-10 times as many murders, but here is another interesting stat. Toronto had 84 murders this year with ONLY A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF BY GUNS, which overwhemingly was black, gang on gang, drugs related occurances. 7 whites were killed in the whole year. That is the microstat that seems to trend out that guns do not kill, people kill, that violent people/societies do it more often but guns kill easier. The Swiss have the highest percapita home storage of guns anywhere but they are militia/military weapons whose custodians are given long tutoring and training on weapons handling and is probaly the most crime free society on earth.
Test. Trying…
1. …to make “Ironic, ain’t it!” display in large, bold, red, italic font.
Ironic, ain’t it!
2. …to display an image:
I’ve heard it said, the U.S. can’t be the policeman of the world. I’m sorry but I think that’s wrong. That’s basically an excuse for U.S. to use its resources for other “favorite” programs. Of course, Iraq, the way we have played that card, has cost America and the world a major slice of national resources in people and money.
The U.S. has the largest portion of natural resources, economic resources, a relatively generous people and a generally Christian attitude to our neighbors.
So, this country should maintain the position of being a moderate policeman around the world and/or fireman in the case of natural disasters.
But the political leadership of the U.S. acts more like a playground bully than a mediator for peace.
Pffft. That went well. :)
linda, so far I can only make font changes.
To make your text appear in italic, type the following:
SHIFT , (shift comma)
i
SHIFT . (shift period)
your text
SHIFT ,
/
i
SHIFT .
See the little brackets above the comma and period on your keyboard? The ><? That tells this webpage that you wish to insert a command (as does semi-colon, close parentheses: a wink, and colon, close parentheses, a smile). You can use “b” instead of “i” and make the text you’ve bracketed appear in bold font.
Another test. Let’s see if any of the following result in emoticons:
:loco: :help: :eek: :s :( :p :fume: :raspberry: :D :lol:
More emoticon testing:
:noway: :cool: :oops: :eek: :eh: :twisted: :bravo: :( :roll: :braveheart: :banned: :homer: :cry: :eh: :exclamation: :idea: :fatchance: :grin: :grrr: :heart: :idunno: :liar: :lovestruck: :neutral: :no-no: :offtopic: :aiyo: :ohreally: :ponder: :saywhat: :shocker: :sick: :silenced: :sleepy: :snooty: :uhhuh: :tic: :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :stinkyface: :snore: :upyours: :wall: :whistle: :yay: :bs: :salute: :fedora: :discodance: :hand: :blah: :shh: :rant: :nyah: :stfu: :grandpa: :runaway: :lick: :kiss: :star: :note: :cookie: :soapbox:
Emoticon testing – not doing well
smile :) :-) :smile: biggrin :D :-D :grin: sad :( :-( :sad:
surprised :o :-o :eek: eek 8O 8-O :shock: confused :? :-? :???:
cool 8) 8-) :cool: mad :x :-x :mad: razz :P :-P :razz:
neutral :| :-| :neutral: wink ;) ;-) :wink: lol :lol: redface :oops:
cry :cry: evil :evil: twisted :twisted: rolleyes :roll: exclaim :!: question :?:
idea :idea: arrow :arrow: mrgreen :mrgreen:
So I guess Hillary #3 is going down the tubes?
JR likes her, not because of her qualities, but because the republicans hate her? (It can’t be because Hillary has promised him free CHEESE and handouts to support a man who does not even have his own computer, but relies on a handout.
Makes a heck of a lot of sense.
But that’s JR…….
just use the colon at beginning and ending ? and the symbol for the emoticon, thus far appears to work.
I will attempt a question mark emoticon.
:?:
List of emoticons that I can get to work. Remember, colon before and after intended emoticon.
smile = colon + Right Parens :)
biggrin = colon + D :D
Sad = colon + left Parens :(
Surprised = colon + small o :o
Testing these four
Thanks Regular!
A kind of legend:
colon + oops + colon = :oops:
colon + cool + colon = :cool:
colon eek colon = :eek:
colon twisted colon = :twisted:
colon roll colon = :roll:
colon + open parentheses = :(
colon idea colon = :idea:
colon grin colon = colon + close parentheses = :grin:
colon cry colon = :cry:
colon neutral colon = :neutral:
colon lol colon = :lol:
:)
This could be fun!
Maybe our nice hosts will provide a “lessons thread.”
OK, here goes some practice. Now, don’t laugh! You progressives will accept; you who aren’t keep in mind that I’m a stewpid liberal and I should be ignored. ;-)
to undo italics by doing shift period.
Bold should happen now
Now comes the >B HARD > part. I hve to hit the post comment and make a fool of myself!
Okay more,
eek = colon + eek + colon :eek:
or
shock = colon + shock + colon :shock:
confused = colon + question mark :?
cool = 8 + Right Parens 8)
or
cool = colon cool colon :cool:
Sorry, just testing these out. Hopefully they work as planned.
Well, that didn’t happen as I planned. I got some italics and some bold but not where I thought I would. So, more practice is needed but can’t do it here and be a bore and a laughing stock.
Nice Kind Editor Hosts: Could we have a Practice Thread, at your convenience, where only those who choose to show off or make fools of themselves could go? Thank you in advance if that’s possible!
mrGreen = colon mrgreen colon :mrgreen:
roll eyes = colon roll colon :roll:
Hey,
AmWay knock off with the personal attacks on JR.. You read what Brownlee said ast the beginning of the “new” blog!!
arrow = colon arrow colon :arrow:
exclaim = colon exclaimation point colon :!:
question = colon question mark colon :?:
Hey Chas, how are you? You haven’t been around much. Busy? Good to see you now! Where is Mr. Brownlee’s opening statement? I missed it!
I think there is a standard set of emoticons appearing in the code for this page. The reason some others (eg, :big grin: :eh:, etc.) don’t display anything is that they’re not yet defined in this code. My guess is that you can define them, but of course that would depend on additional programming (read “dollars”) and my guess is that ain’t happening anytime soon.
Still, if I’m right and the editors know of the “out of the box” emoticons, it would be nice to list them or clickable links to the side of the Comment box so that by merely clicking on the appropriate emoticon icon it’s copied to the Comment field.
In my experience, these emoticons can certainly warm a place up. Of course, they can connote some pretty cynical and caustic wit just as well.
:D
A German smiley maybe?
:DANKE!:
colon DANKE explaination point colon
Don’t think it will work as it is from another blog.
About halfway down the page is where I got the initial list of emoticons at this page.
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies#How_Does_WordPress_Handle_Smileys.3F
Hey Pedant and Regular,
I need to hang out with you two. You’re good! Right now I’m trying hard to listen to the debate (sigh, it isn’t easy) so I can’t concentrate on your lessons. I’ll try harder later. ;-)
JR is a man who does not even have his own computer, but relies on a handout.
That’s not true. JR bought his own computer himself. He got a good deal on it.
AmWay, next time you ask me to back off, I’m going to tell you to shove it.
Regular
Posted January 5, 2008 at 9:58 am | Permalink
It appears the only problem here so far, other than the Blog being new is CapnAmerica and his troll posts.
Nows your chance Eagle – dump that buffoon into the refuse bin.
Hey, great idea, Regular. But that would mean that The Eagle could ban people. And since this new system is exactly like the old system except for a few cosmetic changes, that ain’t a-gonna happen . . . unfortunately.
http://www.portia.org/chapter12/0000758.php_files/1503.jpg
Let’s test this.
A photo showing the success of “Mission Accomplished” in Iraq . . .
They can ban people on a WordPress Blog, just read up on it.
They can also have a sign in with password.
It appears to be a versatile blog formatter.
Hmmm . . . that’s interesting.
On other blogs on this system, when you hover your cursor over the link to a photo, the photo itself pops up.
Also, if you have an avatar, that is also posted next to your nic.
The Eagle has apparently disabled that functionality . . .
How do they do that, Regular?
At best, all they could do is ban your nic.
So a troll posts a bunch of nasty stuff over your nic, and your nic gets banned.
And even if your nic gets banned, you just come back under another nic.
Without registration, they got nothing.
Test
Testing if normal html is allowed.
“Also, if you have an avatar, that is also posted next to your nic.”
Doh :oops: silly me!
You could only have an avatar if you logged in, and The Eagle would rather have the site constantly disrupted than require anybody to :gasp: log in.
The website where I read how to block users.
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/access.html
Regular :?:
You never answered the question.
How does The Eagle ban somebody if they don’t have to log in to begin with?
John Glenn (DEMOCRAT) said this —–
It should make you think a little:
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That’s just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
When some claim that President Bush shouldn’t
have started this war, state the following:
FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II.
Germany never attacked us ; Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost …
an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea North Korea never attacked us
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost …
an average of 18,334 per year.
John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ..
an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us.
He was offered Osama bin Laden’s head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush
has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled
al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya , Iran , and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining
about how long the war is taking.
But wait, there’s more:
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound.
That was a 51-day operation.
We’ve been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
Fewer people died in Abu Ghraib Prison than under U.S. supervision than died in Kennedy’s Oldsmobile.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
t took less time to take Iraq than it took
to count the votes in Florida!!!
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB !
The Military morale is high!
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant
to realize the facts
But Wait There’s more!
JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor – January 26, 2004)
Some people still don’t understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it’s also a good example of one man’s explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what
some who have never served think of the military.
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
“How can you run for Senate when you’ve never held a real job?”
Senator Glenn; “You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee…and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DAD’S didn’t hold a job.
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):
‘I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn’t my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank.’
‘I ask you to go with me .. . as I went the other day…to a veteran’s hospital and look those men …with their mangled bodies . in the eye, and tell THEM they didn’t hold a job!
You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
Arlington National Cemetery , where I have more friends
buried than I’d like to remember, and you watch
those waving flags.
You stand there, and you think about this nation,
and you have the gall to tell ME that those people didn’t have a job?
What about Metzenbaum?
For those who don’t remember
During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney
representing the Communist Party in the USA .
Now he’s a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.
AgHawk–
I doubt that John Glenn said that, but nevermind, it’s still stupid.
If Iraq is going so well, why are we still f***ing there?
“There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January”
AgHawk
Posted January 5, 2008 at 9:17 pm
———–
I quit reading there as I’ve read it many times before.
What do the deaths in Iraq have to do with the deaths in Detroit? If we brought our capable brave soldiers home and no more of them died in Iraq what affect would that have on the murders in Detroit? What sense does it make to try to equate the two?
Okay, fine, Regular.
Just admit you can’t answer the question.
I’m not clicking any links you post.
I just googled ban user wordpress, and all I could find was banning user names and IP addresses.
We already know that doesn’t really work.
That’s why RepubliKhansas is still here . . .
Okay Capn,
One can use the server to ban people and I’m sure there are facilities in Wordpress to do it.
If you are so concerned about banning in a blog, why not get your own, have a login and you can control who comes there?
I don’t know the Wichita Eagle’s plan for this blog, it is the first day it is up. Give them time.
I’m fairly sure, they don’t want to let their security measures for the blog out in public information.
Drink some green tea, it has a calming effect.
Exactly right, LindaKS.
Using the rationale that Detroit has more killings than Iraq–total red-herring.
What? Should we not worry about murders anymore because after all, a lot more people die in car wrecks than murders?
The United States is a big (and by world standards) pretty violent country. That doesn’t justify invading and occupying another country and killing American soldiers for nuthin’.
Obviously.
If every poster ignored every post that should be ignored, together we would reduce the posts that should be ignored. Guess some will ignore this post. At least the process of ignoring it will mean I won’t know it was ignored. ;-)
CapnAmerica,”If Iraq is going so well, why are we still f***ing there?”
I’m sure just to pi$$ you off, and it is so easy to do obviously, it’s not even sport anymore.
The Dems have killed a whole lot more of our capable brave soldiers than this administration, and in fact the Dem. leaders just in Detroit.
One can use the server to ban people
Uh, yeah, I s’pose.
But in addition to the computer I’m using now, I’ve got a laptop with a wireless card. I can connect at my house with some neighbor’s system, and I don’t even know who’s it is. I suspect it’s more than one.
Or I could take it to a cafe with a wireless connection.
Or I could buy a cheap anonymizer that is hard to track (without law enforcement level forensic computer software and search warrants).
Or I could use a dial-up system which uses various servers etc . . .
Face it–there’s only one way to ban disruptors, and that’s the way that the big sites like DemUnderground and Freepville do it: mandatory log-ins.
And thanks, Regular, for the advice on the green tea.
While an overly-excitable person can learn to relax, there’s no way you can make a stupid person smarter.
Too bad there isn’t something you could drink to improve your life, Regular.
You’re stuck with what you are . . .
Logins don’t guarantee anything.
One can get their own domain, nym the email addresses (hide the real email) and then create several hundred emails sent via a proxy server.
Websites with logins have to ban people and the same Websites have people sneak back in using the techniques I described above.
I agree with lindainks, just post and ignore the posters.
Or, you can let the subject control your life and obsess over it. :cool:
AgHawk, too, proving you can’t fix stupid.
Democratic Underground does a great job of eliminating trolls through monitoring and log-in.
Once you’re tombstoned at that site, you’d have to re-register, and they don’t permit free e-mail accounts (yahoo, hotmail, gmail).
They don’t have one-one hundreth of the problems there that the WEBlog does.
BTW, the people who are least concerned about shutting down trolls are trolls . . .
Regular, I will tell you I was able to recognize the poster JM, Eier, Khan, Republican, Kansas (I think I’ve left out some as I didn’t pay close attention) as the same person. I also ignored most of what s/he posted because I didn’t think someone who wasn’t willing to own their opinions was credible. Some posters here I’ve learned what they think, how they feel, who they are and whether I agree with them. Agreeing with them isn’t as important as knowing they value their opinions enough to stick with them OR say they’ve reevaluated and changed their mind. I have ZERO respect for the poster who can’t take responsibility for what they post. If a poster needs to change their nic does that mean they want to distance them self from something they posted under another nic? I think yes.
CapnAmerica can’t stand anybody on ‘HIS’ blog that even disagrees with him, let alone somebody that recognizes his naive ignorance, so he wants to ban them. He just can’t stand it that there are new kids on the block who don’t think all that much of what he posts and don’t give him the respect HE only thinks he deserves.
When you’re in a hole, AgHawk, quit digging . . . What a maroon.
Oooo nice shot in the dark there Amway.
Aint got the guts to take me on when I’m “around” huh? Probably a good idea.
Thanks Capn for setting the record straight.
“What a maroon.” posted by CapnAmerica
Okay ‘Cap’ what’s a “maroon”, I thought it was a color (?).
I tell you what, since I make you so miserable, as well as every other poster you want to ban who like me thinks you are the moron most of the time and say so, I’ll go away and not respond to your silly ideas
for the night….just say ‘uncle’ first.
C’mon, AgHawk, everyone knows a maroon is a cookie!
Sorry, AgHawk.
Didn’t know that you had no electricity growing up out there on the prairie and you had to do the “ciphering” on a shovel with a piece of fireplace coal.
The saying is from Bugs Bunny, “sheesh, what a maroon.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_bunny
Looking at the Header for this site, I had to wonder at first, are we supposed to submit captions for all the balloons? Must be reading too much Crowson.
BTW, AgHawk–
I was right that John Glenn did not author that piece of BS.
According to Snopes, it’s been floating around the internet since 2004. It’s part of the right-wing “pass the turd” that you and KSGrm and Hank and outlander and Econ do.
You’re all on the same crap mailing lists apparently.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/glenn.asp
Okay ‘Capn’, thanks for the explanation. No, I wouldn’t have gotten ‘maroon’ even though I did watch a little ‘Bugs’ as a kid, black & white I think.
You win, you don’t have to say ‘uncle’, I’m headed out. After this exchange tonight if I don’t quit I’ll soon will be reduced to a condition where, as you say, “you can’t fix stupid” and I’ll be stuck like that.
Right, AgHawk.
And keep posting crap you get in your e-mail box from sources that you don’t bother to check out.
After all, if it supports your world-view, it doesn’t matter if it’s factually true or not, because in CON WORLD, if it should be true, it must be true . . .
From Snopes, http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/glenn.asp
I Have Held a Job!
Claim: Senate candidate John Glenn delivered a stinging rebuke to a challenger who accused him of never having run a business.
Status: True.
The Senator Metzenbaum exchange is most assuredly true, the part about Iraq was added on later and not attributable to Glenn but TRUE none the less.
Nightie night,
Here ya go linda >>>
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:-)
Early day tomorrow —
Good Night; Good Luck; and God bless, whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings All!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!! :-)
OMG, AgHawk.
If anyone had any doubt about your jejune concatenation of ersatz evidence, you just keeping posting and eliminate any other possible conclusion.
Hey, knucklehead, scroll down the page to the “update.”
Doh!
I’m embarrassed for you.
:oops:
:punk:
:lol:
Please refrain from personal attacks
Shoot, we would lose every regular poster if the eagle followed this rule and the eagle would lose a decent revenue stream.
Please Capn, don’t be embarrassed for me, I don’t need it. As I said and if you will look again the part about Iraq is not attributable to Glenn but the facts stated concerning Iraq are true. The part about the exchange with Sen. Meathead is also true.
This following is a copy/paste from Snopes, don’t argue with that it make you look as stupid as you are.
From Snopes:
“I Have Held a Job!
Claim: Senate candidate John Glenn delivered a stinging rebuke to a challenger who accused him of never having run a business.
Status: True.”
The Senator Metzenbaum exchange is most assuredly true, the part about Iraq was added on later and not attributable to Glenn but TRUE none the less.
We need you, dont let CA browbeat you into leaving.
BTW, the people who are least concerned about shutting down trolls are trolls . . .
The ones complaining about trolls the most are the ones doing most of the trolling.
If DUG does not allow free email accounts, how do you people with free accounts get to post? Not everyone has paid accounts. Do they allow AOL? They are free accounts now for those who dont want to sign up for the less than optimal AOL system.
Do they only ban yahoo, hotmail, and gmail, or do they block all free email accounts? There are several thousand free email providers out there.
It appears that CapnAmerica wants to control what is said on the blog and who says it.
Best way to control a control freak is to ignore him.
I would strongly suggest that. Just let him post and then ignore what he writes.
That’s what they make scroll wheels on computer mice for, to scroll over. :cool:
:afraid:
:worried:
:afraid
“Pls stay AgHawk
Posted January 5, 2008 at 11:06 pm | Permalink
We need you, dont let CA browbeat you into leaving.
BTW, the people who are least concerned about shutting down trolls are trolls . . .
The ones complaining about trolls the most are the ones doing most of the trolling.”
Thanks. He won’t, I am dedicating my online life for the next undetermined period of time to making Cap’s life as miserable as he makes everyone else’s.
He bothered me at first, but I soon realized he needed help, as his condition is a mental illness. So I’ll stick around and try and help him, it’s my mission.
May not take word smileys.
This following is a copy/paste from Snopes, don’t argue with that it make you look as stupid as you are.
From Snopes:
“I Have Held a Job!
Claim: Senate candidate John Glenn delivered a stinging rebuke to a challenger who accused him of never having run a business.
Status: True.”
The Senator Metzenbaum exchange is most assuredly true, the part about Iraq was added on later and not attributable to Glenn but TRUE none the less.
*****
Let the record show, the part in italics is directly from the Snopes website.
However the part in BOLD DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE SITE.
That’s just more of AgHawk’s turd polishing.
Learn the difference between a fact (which can be proven true or false) and an opinion (which can’t), and we’ll talk.
Otherwise you remain stuck on stupid.
Bless you for undertaking an arduous task. May you have the strength to see you through as you face a long hard row. Many have tried and none had success.
Graffitti Troll asks,
If DUG does not allow free email accounts, how do you people with free accounts get to post? Not everyone has paid accounts. Do they allow AOL? They are free accounts now for those who dont want to sign up for the less than optimal AOL system.
Do they only ban yahoo, hotmail, and gmail, or do they block all free email accounts? There are several thousand free email providers out there.
Gee, I dunno, GT. But what I do know is that when I tried to register with a yahoo account, I couldn’t do it and I got a message that they don’t accept free e-mail accounts.
But really, I think it’s the close monitoring at both FRepublic and DUnderground that does the most good. Flame-bait posts are pulled within ten minutes at DU.
Takes the fun out of it for the disruptors.
You for instance wouldn’t last half an hour there.
I challenge you to post your usual BS there.
Give us a full report . . .
The true GT master speaks. At last count, you had so many GT nics you couldnt keep them straight.
Dont worry, be happy. When the eagle is sued because one of the bullies on the blog carries out the bodily harm they threaten, the lawsuit will close the blog or the eagle will address the issue.
From DU, using a yahoo account. ;P :P
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The only one doing any threatening is the post-er known as JM-RepubliKhansas.
Looks like you won’t be taking my challenge.
Big surprise.
:roll:
Capn, do you know what quotation marks are???
Thats why in my copy/paste of Snopes I closed quotation as follows, and this is copied directly from your post above Capn.
“I Have Held a Job!
Claim: Senate candidate John Glenn delivered a stinging rebuke to a challenger who accused him of never having run a business.
Status: True.”
Your bold part following I did not put in quotation.
Listen if you need me to explain quotation marks I’d be willing to donate some time but not to the boredom of everyone on the blog. Why don’t you look it up yourself first and ask for help when you can’t figure it out.
Now this has got to stop, everyone is bored and I’m really afraid arguing with with idiots can be contagious, so I’m headed to bed.
Hmmm . . . okay. They must have changed their policy.
Well, see if you can disrupt them like you do here.
Good luck.
CapnAmerica
Posted January 5, 2008 at 11:28 pm | Permalink
You for instance wouldn’t last half an hour there.
I challenge you to post your usual BS there.
Give us a full report . . .
If they follow the site rules mentioned, you would not last 10 minutes. I dont post the kind of crap you and the others here do. I dont threaten people with death, bodily injury, make personal attacks first, or accuse everyone and their uncle of being a GT or of being Kansas. Not sure what your fascination with Kansas is, or maybe it is fear. You use the GT moniker so often you must be trying to hide your own GT nics. How many do you have? Two dozen, two hundred? Are you really Kansas as some have said?
As the Karma freaks like to point out, what goes around comes around. Funny how most of the people posting about Karma dont think it applies to them, or they would be acting nicer.
AgHawk writes, your bold part following I did not put in quotation.
But you implied that it was from the site.
You lied, and everybody saw it.
Nice try, you lost, but please take the consolation prize of a cheese straighter on your way out . . .
Let the record show, the Graffitti Troll has lost his mind and is now spouting gibberish.
Ciao, comrades.
CapnAmerica
Posted January 5, 2008 at 11:39 pm | Permalink
Hmmm . . . okay. They must have changed their policy.
Well, see if you can disrupt them like you do here.
Unlike you, I dont disrupt here. Unlike you, I dont launch personal attacks against people who disagree with me. Unlike you, I believe everyone has the guaranteed right to speak their mind here. Unlike you, I have no problems with people who disagree with me. Unlike you, I dont waste tons of time here everyday, or post from work.
You must not have much of a personal life with as much time as you spend here posting. Of course, you are not the only one because there are at least 20+ people that post almost as much as you do.
I visit here to see if it has changed since my last visit. It hasnt.
CapnAmerica
Posted January 5, 2008 at 11:42 pm | Permalink
Let the record show, the Graffitti Troll has lost his mind and is now spouting gibberish.
Ciao, comrades.
You shouldnt be so hard on yourself and talking about yourself in the third person is not healthy.
It just dawned on me . . .
DemUnderground requires a 24 hour waiting period for “security reasons” because if one is a disruptor and gets banned, one would have to wait 24 hours before they could re-register.
Kinda takes the fun out of disrupting, doesn’t it?
The sock puppet ballet is out in FULL force tonight!! Give some people an inch, and they want the whole sand box!!
Number of physicians in the US = 700,000
Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year = 120,000
Accidental deaths per physician = 0.171
Number of gun owners in the US = 80,000,000
Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) = 1,500
Accidental deaths per gun owner = 0.0000188
Therefore, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US,
Causing 250,000 Deaths Every Year
Journal American Medical Association (JAMA) Vol 284 July 26, 2000: author Dr. Barbara Starfield of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health
Depends on the banning method. If they use IP addresses, it wouldnt matter if you have a static IP address. If you use a dynamic IP address or an IP changing program, it wouldnt stop you. If you are like a friend of mine with over 240 email accounts, it wouldnt stop you for long as she could create new accounts often enough to overcome any 24 delay.
It appeared to apply to some free email accounts like gmail, yahoo, and hotmail.
As an update, I registered using a nontypical free account and it did not require me to wait 24 hours.
User account was successfully created. A random password was sent to your email address. Check your mailbox for instructions on how to login.
The rules are a nice change from here and as an admin at another site, a refreshing change.
COOL!
Recent comments is back.
sugar
Posted January 5, 2008 at 11:49 pm | Permalink
The sock puppet ballet is out in FULL force tonight!! Give some people an inch, and they want the whole sand box!!
Bradley, good to see you.
J R, they have been there for several days, but only on the home page.
Originally, you couldnt click on them, but you could see who posted where.
“Bradley, good to see you.”
Huh???
ENOUGH WHINING! PLEASE!
Obama’s Rise Dismays Clinton’s Supporters
The pillars of the New Hampshire Democratic establishment had filled the front tables at the party’s annual dinner Friday night, the better to applaud enthusiastically when Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, their overwhelming choice for president, talked about her readiness to lead.
But when Sen. Barack Obama took the stage, hundreds of Obama supporters swarmed the front of the hall, surrounding their tables and sending people such as Beverly Hollingworth to the exits.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/05/AR2008010502616.html?hpid=topnews
Could the Clinton Machine be in trouble?
A Wisconsin man convicted of having sexual contact with a dead deer has been sentenced to nine more months in jail.
http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hiZ4j2OOEug3O3W7pEfVHLsp4TyQ
I guess the dead horse didn’t satisfy him.
The incident was triggered when O’Reilly–with a Fox News crew shooting–was screaming at Obama National Trip Director Marvin Nicholson “Move” so he could get Obama’s attention, according to several eyewitnesses. “O’Reilly was yelling at him, yelling at his face,” a photographer shooting the scene said.
O’Reilly grabbed Nicholson’s arm and shoved him, another eyewitness said. Nicholson, who is 6?8, said O’Reilly called him “low class.”
http://www.electiongeek.com/blog/2008/01/05/massive-crowds-bill-oreilly-following-clinton-obama/
Was that video about O’Reilly supposed to show something?
Ever wonder the real reason we won the cold war?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7477649880464836840
Solar Physicist and Climatologist Douglas V. Hoyt, who coauthored the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change, and has worked at both the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), has developed a scorecard to evaluate how accurate climate models have been.
Hoyt wrote, “Starting in 1997, we created a scorecard to see how climate model predictions were matching observations. The picture is not pretty with most of the predictions being wrong in magnitude and often in sign.”
http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/climate-change.htm
A March 1, 2007 blog post in the National Review explained how the scoring system works. “[Hoyt] gives each prediction a ‘yes-no-undetermined score.’ So if the major models’ prediction is confirmed, the score at the beginning would be 1-0-0. So how do the models score when compared with the evidence? The final score is 1-27-4. That’s one confirmed prediction, 27 disconfirmed, and 4 undetermined,” the blog noted. Hoyt has extensively researched the sun-climate connection and has published nearly 100 scientific papers in such areas as the greenhouse effect, aerosols, cloud cover, radiative transfer, and sunspot structure.
http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDZiZWVjYTU1MGQwNmNhODU5MDI0NWMzY2NhZTI4ODE=
To see Hoyt’s climate model scorecard, go here:
http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/scorecard.htm
Hank Price,
I remember seeing a submarine on a cruise in the Gulf of Mexico. I was surprised how huge it was. I couldn’t hear it either, but it was pretty far away.
It was sleek, metallic black and had an intimidating look.
“Could the Clinton Machine be in trouble?”
I think people are so sick and tired of the status quo… and many are ready for change, any change..I think Ms Clinton would be surprised to know that most Americans are really tired of the same political faces for the last 15 yrs…she’s so out of touch with anyone but herself.
Solar Physicist and Climatologist Douglas V. Hoyt, who coauthored the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change, and has worked at both the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), has developed a scorecard to evaluate how accurate climate models have been.
Hoyt wrote, “Starting in 1997, we created a scorecard to see how climate model predictions were matching observations. The picture is not pretty with most of the predictions being wrong in magnitude and often in sign.”
http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/climate-change.htm
A March 1, 2007 blog post in the National Review explained how the scoring system works. “[Hoyt] gives each prediction a ‘yes-no-undetermined score.’ So if the major models’ prediction is confirmed, the score at the beginning would be 1-0-0. So how do the models score when compared with the evidence? The final score is 1-27-4. That’s one confirmed prediction, 27 disconfirmed, and 4 undetermined,” the blog noted. Hoyt has extensively researched the sun-climate connection and has published nearly 100 scientific papers in such areas as the greenhouse effect, aerosols, cloud cover, radiative transfer, and sunspot structure.
To see Hoyt’s climate model scorecard, go here:
http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/scorecard.htm
It doesn’t matter, when Yellowstone blows up, we’re all toast anyway.
The Earth has been wiped out totally 6 times in it’s history..we won’t be the last species to exist on this planet..it’s only a matter of time before we get hit by a meteor or a super volcano blows..hopefully a LONG time.
Yellowstone is going to BLOW?
2007 is behind us, and the actions and inactions of the democrat controlled congress belongs to the history books.
Democrats ran in 2006 promising to be better stewarts of the peoples money. They blasted republicans for the 13,000+ earmarks in 2005 and promised to cut the pork. Between the defense appropriation bill and the “catch-all” omnibus spending bill, DEMOCRATS included more than 11,000 earmarks. This isn’t tough love – this is tough shit to the taxpayers.
Speaking of the Omnibus Bill, because the democrats FAILED to pass all twenty-six appropriation bills into law, on the last day of the calendar year (3 months after the start of the 2008 fiscal year – 3 months late) they lumped all the bills together, and without debate, review, or give-a-shit: rammed through a bill which will affect much of our nations life for the next year – without discussion.
The democrats did succeed in tying up legislation and delaying legislation inorder to conduct a multitude of worthless investigations. Investigations with no meaningful results for the “people”.
Congress delayed any GW for another 15 years, giving automakers until 2022 to meet standards BELOW those already achieved by foreign automobile manufacturers today. Absolutely NOTHING regarding greenhouse gases or saving the environment.
Nancy Boyda: As you promised “change” if I supported you, now I promise “change” as I support WHOMEVER becomes your opponent in the next election.
Regardless of party: THROW THE RASCALS OUT.
This – all politicians understand.
This – cuts threw the division which the two parties use to divide us.
Measure the performance of your elected representatives.
Did they meet your expectations?
The democrats have done what they could against the foot dragging Republicans in congress.
What we need is a Democratic majority. THEN we can get important stuff done.
Hank Price posted January 6, 2008 at 8:54 am
“… Douglas V. Hoyt, who coauthored the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change…
A March 1, 2007 blog post in the National Review…”
Wow! A book, and some web pages.
Hank, how many peer-reviewed papers did Hoyt write that were NOT about solar fluctuations?
‘Douglas V. Hoyt’
http://www.desmogblog.com/node/1311
“According to a search of 22,000 academic journals, Hoyt has published over 35 peer-reviewed articles mainly in the area of solar fluctuations. Hoyt has not published any new research since 1998.
Hoyt is a retired solar physicist with Raytheon Corporation.”
Being a retired solar physicist does NOT make a person an expert in other fields, like carbon-cycles, aerosols, GHG’s, etc.
Hoyt also does not seem to understand the difference between the hype from a few journalists in the mid-1970’s, and three decades of careful scientific research.
He (and 59 other so-called “scientists”) signed a letter making this false claim.
“It was only 30 years ago that many of today’s global-warming alarmists were telling us that the world was in the midst of a global-cooling catastrophe.”
Dear Hank Price,
Your retired solar physicist is very unimpressive.
http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/climate-change.htm
“1. The sun may have warmed over the last 25 years and caused most if not all the warming as discussed here.”
Let’s read more from Dr. Willson,
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2003/0313irradiance.html
“Although the inferred increase of solar irradiance in 24 years, about 0.1 percent, is not enough to cause notable climate change, the trend would be important if maintained for a century or more.”
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/record/23/05/14.html
“Greenhouse warming, in which gases created by human activity trap more solar heat in the atmosphere, is expected to increase temperatures on Earth by about 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit over the next 50 to 100 years. By contrast, according to Willson, solar forcing — the sun’s effect on long-term climate — might account for between 0.7 and 1.4 degrees of warming over the next 100 years, if sustained at the pace his observations suggest….
“Solar forcing would provide only about one-fourth as much warming, if the solar trend persists over the same period,” Willson said. “Solar forcing could be significant, but not dominant.”
Whoa cosmos!
A typical knee-jerk cosmos response,
“He’s not a climatologist!”
“He’s not a climatologist!”
“He’s not a climatologist!”
“He’s not a climatologist!”
Whoa, but wait, the good doctor Douglas V. Hoyt is a climatologist! In fact, a very highly respected climatologist in his field!
“He’s not peer reviewed!”
“He’s not peer reviewed!”
“He’s not peer reviewed!”
Whoa, but wait again! The good Dr. Douglas V. Hoyt has published over a hundred peer reviewed papers! Plus several books!
Then cosmos references his favorite left-wing website, the highly biased website that exists for no other reason than to defame and intimidate legitimate scientists that dare to break away from the ‘politically correct’ the ’sky is falling’ GW consensus: desmogblog A BLOG! Give me a break!
Then cosmos points out,
“Hoyt is a retired solar physicist with Raytheon Corporation.” Cleverly leaving out the fact that Doctor Douglas V. Hoyt is a CLIMATOLOGIST!
Yet one more reason that adds credibility to the good doctor’s opinion! He’s retired. He’s not working for anyone. He doesn’t have a ‘dog in the hunt’.
cosmos also speculates,
“Hoyt also does not seem to understand the difference between the hype. . .”
Well, cosmos, a highly respected, published, physicist, climatologist and peer reviewed scientist probably understands better than you “hype” when it comes to climate change.
Shrill and pathetic, cosmos, shrill and pathetic!
US Navy encounters global warming!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb_LCPGtzpU
Oops, my bad! Listened to the OOD and realized it wasn’t a US sub!
Did some investigation and Youtube was wrong. It’s a British sub, HMS Tireless!
Dear Hank Price,
Okay, once again you cannot understand the very significant differences between,
(a) peer-reviewed science papers, versus
(b) non-peer-reviewed books, web pages, “opinions”, and journalist’s hype in mid-1970’s Newsweek and Time magazines.
Hank Price seems to believe that since Dr. Hoyt wrote peer-reviewed papers re “solar fluctuations”, then ALL of Hoyt’s non-peer-reviewed “opinions” are 100% valid, and unquestionable.
Hank Price posted: “cosmos also speculates,
“Hoyt also does not seem to understand the difference between the hype. . .”
Yes Hank, I can only “speculate”.
Scientists in the mid-1970’s did NOT know if human-added aerosols would cause global cooling, or human-added GHG’s would cause global warming.
A statement in 1975, from the NAS:
“Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report.
“Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”
By 1977, scientists thought that warming was the main risk.
There seems to be NO peer-reviewed science in the mid-1970’s claiming Earth was having a “global-cooling catastrophe”
Hank Price, tell us WHY an open letter in April 2006 was signed by “Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired)…” making this FALSE claim.
“It was only 30 years ago that many of today’s global-warming alarmists were telling us that the world was in the midst of a global-cooling catastrophe.”
And Hank… please don’t “speculate”!
Hank Price posted January 6, 2008 at 3:40 pm
“Then cosmos references his favorite left-wing website, the highly biased website that exists for no other reason than to defame and intimidate legitimate scientists that dare to break away from the ‘politically correct’ the ’sky is falling’ GW consensus: desmogblog A BLOG! Give me a break!”
Hank Price believes that someone who provides the truth is “left-wing”.
‘Richard S. Courtney
Coal Union Spokesperson’
http://www.desmogblog.com/node/1095
“Climate change research
According to a search of 22,000 publications, Courtney has never published any research in the area of climate change.
Courtney and the Coal Industry
Courtney was a technical editor for CoalTrans International, which describes itself as the “web’s most comprehensive resource” on the coal industry. He was also a spokesperson for the British Association of Colliery Management, a coal industry union in the United Kingdom and has written opinion papers about his concern over the loss of jobs in the coal industry as a result of the UK’s movement towards renewable energy.”
Courtney is on Hank’s “400(sic) prominent(sic) scientists(sic)” list.
“Dr. Richard Courtney, a UN IPCC expert reviewer and a UK-based climate and atmospheric science consultant,…”
Personal opinions on the winners in the NH primary? Lets see who can accurately predict or come closest. I do not know who will win. The experts lean towards Mccain and Clinton. My guess is Obama again and Romney. Romney will get an edge for regionals and Obama is more likable. Second Mccain and Edwards; third Hillary and Huckabee. Sorry if this is already being done on the blog. I did not see it with a search.
While on the campaign trail on Sunday, Mitt Romney deployed foreign policy rhetoric straight out of President George Bush’s playbook and even repeated one his most memorable gaffes.
Speaking in front of hundreds of Republican voters in Nashua, New Hampshire, Romney was pressed to describe why Osama bin Laden was deemed such a high threat to America. The former Massachusetts governor rambled a bit about the obvious dangers the al Qaeda leader poses — as well as the litany of atrocities he’s committed – before offering: “I want to get Osama bin Laden dead or alive.”
The statement is reminiscent of a similar remark made by President Bush in the wake of the 9/11 attacks — a statement that Bush later said he regretted making.
“Kind of tough talk, you know, that sent the wrong signal to people,” Bush said. “I learned some lessons about expressing myself maybe in a little more sophisticated manner.”
Oops.
Here’s a cut-and-paste from another blog:
A couple of quick points on the Romney drubbing last night:
1) My sense was the others don’t so much dislike Romney as that they have contempt for him. The sharp barbs were delivered with an undercurrent (or in McCain’s case, overtly) of derisive laughter. Give Romney his due: It is quite an achievement to be too phony for even the GOP.
2) There’s still hope for your boy: There’s another GOP debate tonight on Fox. Viewership should skew heavily toward registered Republican voters who still have a basic distrust of McCain, so Romney has another shot at rehabilitating his traditional GOP charlantry with the voters he must win.
MonkeyHawk, my man is Obama and he does not like to be called boy. I will vote for him even if it is obvious he will lose. He is the true voice for change.
Sorry, “NH winner” –
Something got lost in the translation. As I noted in my above post, it was a cut-and-paste from another blog. The original response was to a Romniac and the cut-and-paste was not directed at you.
Mr. Cosmos,
What are Vice President Gore’s Climatology degrees?
He was presented a Nobel Prize.
Surely V.P. Gore has a scientific background to have presented such information.
Please elaborate on the formal education and curriculum vitae of your former Vice President as it pertains to climate science.
Regular posted January 6, 2008 at 6:38 pm
“What are Vice President Gore’s Climatology degrees?”
To learn how stupid that question is, watch Gore’s AIT, or read the book.
Why don’t you answer the question Mr. Cosmos?
What are Vice President Gore’s science degrees?
My point being, is that specialize knowledge in Climatology is not a prerequisite in discussing or even studying it.
The are questions of Physics that only a Physicist can answer, so I well imagine that Climatologists depend on them for answers.
What about biological science? Do you think Climatologists are experts on diatoms? Or would they need specialists in oceanography to study such things?
The point is, that Climatology appears to encompass many fields and disciplines. It also encompasses many backgrounds and diversification of experiences.
Would you agree Mr. Cosmos?
I’m more interested in an expose’ on you there “Regular”.
I presume this means you are a regular poster? Well in frequency anyway.
Curious. Since the nic “Regular” has existed in this forum no more than a few days.
Do you care to share your regular nic? Or…do you invite speculation?
I’m a poster just like you J R.
What are the qualifications to participate in this blog?
Whose approval do I need?
Well “Regular” this blog has pretty much decided as a group that nics ARE important. That is why those who deal in multiple nics or routinely change nics are poorly received.
You see? If a person posts a post that would tend to make them look….bad…well then it is valuable to know who that poster is if they should speak up again. Their posts stand or fall based partly on how the poster has acquitted their self here.
Now you already know all this, but we have new readers all the time so I’ll give you an example.
Let’s say a poster called…oh…”Republican” posts in a manner that would seem to prove that he is mentally unsound. Using pirate lingo, threatening others, lying etc. And let us say he tries to hide himself out and continue posting by changing his screen name or “nic” because everybody has pretty much decided that “Republican” is not a reliable source of information, wisdom, or even sanity.
Well, an opinion blog is sort of like a debate hall. Now without defined nics, any kook can come into the hall, say his…whatever, and then go outside, totally change his appearance and go back to TRY and be considered credibly again. It would be as if Charles Manson could speak in the hall and return as Mother Theresa.
So as you see and as MOST posters here hold to, nics ARE valuable and those who think otherwise are invited to the sort of treatment they usually get. We like it that way.
I see J R.
Well thought out, I’ll have to study what you have written.
I would note that this is a blog and not a formal debate session.
If it were formal, it would require real name be used, a real working email and snail mail address, phone number and a signing of an agreement by electronic signature.
I’m game for that, are you?
Well with only a few bad actors and the attendant distractions, the blog has served MOST posters here for nearly 3 years now. I don’t think the sort of changes you contemplate would be welcome.
It is what it is. People can post here or not. History shows that those who misuse nics are generally dealt with by the other bloggers.
You do of course, have other options in blogging.
Regular,
I already covered your points about “fields and disciplines” in my earlier posts at 12″:10 pm and elsewhere.
Hey JR…what’s the big deal if he calls himself “Regular”? Maybe he plans to become a regular poster…and unless it’s a nickname someone else has used in the past, what does it matter if that’s his nickname of choice?
Mr. Cosmos,
Your 12:10 post appears to be about a “Hoyt.”
That doesn’t address the questions I posed to you.
I’m voting for Huckabee!!!! I’ll support him 100%. Glad to be back and I see we have the regular fighting… good to know it didn’t go anywhere!
Shrill and pathetic, cosmos, you’re getting ever more shrill and pathetic!
“It was only 30 years ago that many of today’s global-warming alarmists were telling us that the world was in the midst of a global-cooling catastrophe.”
Interesting, cosmos. I’ve read the whole letter you got this quote from and didn’t find anything ‘false’ in it.
Maybe you should try and get a more balance view of the world and quit depending on has been politicians and socialist websites for you science information.
Well “swallow”
You suffer (at least my take) by just the sort of anonymous free fire zone that “Regular” seems to advocate.
The fact of it is? I think that you and “Regular” are the same poster.
This is the sort of confusion? that results when posters are loose with nics.
Hank? Cosmos is like 10 and 0 on you now my take. In fact? I speculated before that you were posting your list of “scientists” to PROVE that global warming is real and that humans are causing it. You claim otherwise, but quite honestly you are making Cosmos’s claim FOR him.
Now if that is not your intention and you TRULY oppose efforts to limit carbon emmissions, then I must ask you again, why? What is your stake in holding America back and keeping us dependent on fossil fuels?
Hank Price posted January 6, 2008 at 9:16 pm
“Maybe you should try and get a more balance[d] view of the world and quit depending on has been politicians and socialist websites for you[r] science information.”
Were “many of today’s” peer-reviewed scientists warning about a “global-cooling catastrophe” in the mid-1970’s, as Dr. Hoyt (falsely) claimed?
NO!
So Hank Price predictably makes a false ad hominem attack at me, instead of admitting that Dr. Hoyt was WRONG.
Dear Hank Price,
“Shrill and pathetic” is making false ad hominems, instead of supporting your opinions with accurate facts.
J R,
Alan Titchmarsh is on Hank’s (Sen. Inhofe(R-Exxon) “400″(sic) list.
“Horticulturalist Alan Titchmarch, a prominent naturalist who hosts the popular “The Nature of Britain” program on the BBC, joined the climate skeptics in 2007.
… “I’m sure we are contributing to global warming, and we must do all we can to reduce that, …”
Ooops… he seems to believe that humans ARE causing GW.
For some more LOL’s, read about him at,
http://rabett.blogspot.com/2007/12/ethon-visits-400-club-eli-sent-ethon.html
Make that 11-0 Hank. Thanks cosmos.
Mmm that last was not clear.
Hank is 0 and 11? I’d have to go look.
I sure hope he keeps on. By election this rate it will be like all 400 of Hank and Hannity’s “scientists” better defined,exposed, discredited.
No answers to my questions Mr. cosmos?
Last chance, work week coming up.
If I don’t get an answer tonight, you’ll have a week to think about it. 8)
J R,
Here are 4 more… 2 on this page, and 2 on “here” links.
‘The ‘Inhofe 400′ skeptic of the day’
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/1/1/182558/9615
Eventually it will be Hank Price = 0, and Sen. Inhofe’s(R-Exxon) entire list will be discredited.
Science, reality, and facts are brutal…
Another good breakdown of Inhofe’s list, except it’s overly polite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KimDabelsteinPetersen/Inhofe
Looks like the new blog setup does a “Your comment is awaiting moderation” if you have more than one link in a post.
Dear Hank Price,
Would you please explain why we should rely on a retired marine (ocean) geologist for up-to-date info about solar winds.
Should we also rely on a retired solar scientists, for up-to-date info re ocean geology?
So you think Regular and I are the same poster? And just how did you come to such a conclusion, J R? After all, I’ve been here for a few months now, even if I don’t spend a large portion of my day here, like you obviously do.
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