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  1. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 6:27 am | Permalink

    I love how there is no mention that Obama’s visit falls on Kansas Day. Hell, I don’t even think the Eagle knows that the 29th of January is in fact Kansas’ birthday.

    If that isn’t pandering, then I don’t know the definition of it. Folks still, unbelievably, fall for the handshakes and baby kissing. Good luck with that.

  2. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Report: Russia Completes Shipment of Uranium to Iran

    Monday, January 28, 2008

    Associated Press

    MOSCOW — Russia has completed the shipment of uranium fuel for Iran’s first nuclear plant, officials said Monday.

    Irina Yesipova, a spokeswoman for Russia’s state Atomstroiexport company in charge of building the nuclear plant in the southern port of Bushehr, said the eighth and final shipment of 9.5 tons of uranium fuel had been delivered overnight.

    The United States and Russia have said the supply of nuclear fuel means Iran has no need to continue its own uranium enrichment program — a process that can provide fuel for a reactor or fissile material for a bomb.

    Iran has insisted it would continue enriching uranium because it needed to provide fuel to a 300-megawatt light-water reactor it was building in the southwestern town of Darkhovin.

    More at Foxnews.com

  3. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 6:58 am | Permalink

    Countrywide CEO forfeits $37.5 million
    Facing pressure over his payout, Angelo Mozilo says he is giving up severance pay and other perks.

    January 28 2008: 3:44 AM EST

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Countrywide Financial Corp. CEO Angelo Mozilo, under fire over the size of his potential payout from the proposed sale of his troubled mortgage company, says he is forfeiting some $37.5 million in severance pay, fees and perks he was scheduled to receive upon his retirement

    Mozilo, however, will still retain retirement benefits and deferred compensation that he has already earned, Countrywide said in a statement released Monday.

    In addition to $36.4 million cash severance payments, Mozilo also walked away from $400,000 per year he was to be paid under an agreement to serve as a consultant to the company following his retirement, and perks including the use of a private airplane, the company said.

    More at CNNMoney.com

  4. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    Did you guys ever see this news? It’s doubtful that you did, because, unfortunately, it’s real news, not propaganda.

    You really ought to read how Bushco makes their real money.

  5. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    Funny how opium doubled after we went in.

    For Bushco, the WAR ON DRUGS!!! is going just fine. The WAR ON TERROR!!! is just as lucrative.

    Don’t you wish you were a Bush too?

  6. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    Wow Pfeefer, what crawled up inside you this morning?

  7. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    Three weeks without a cigarette, it’s starting to get to me.

    Low tolerance levels, need power ups.

  8. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    Good job! Keep it going dude. You can put that money you save towards something you want and you can put the life you save towards something you want to be. :)

  9. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    I made myself a deal, quit smoking and you can buy a new vehicle, I have a new Tacoma now. Thanks for the encouragement and I’ll pipe-down here.

  10. Hank Price
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    Hey Pleefer!

    Hang in there! It’s been 21 years for me. The first year was pretty hard, but I got through it.

    Promised my wife t be that I would quit on January 1st 1987. Worried about it so much that I quit a couple of days early.

    I don’t miss the Pall Malls, but I still check the date on the Copenhagen cans now and then. . .

    One thing that helped me was to immediately brush my teeth after eating and going for a walk. I also quit coffee for a while.

    Good on ya! Hang in!

  11. Hank Price
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    Oh, and you don’t have to pipe down, we can take it!

  12. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    Thanks Hank and I know you all can take it. But you gotta admit, I throw it out to both sides of the aisle just about evenly.

  13. Hank Price
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    There’s two sides?

  14. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    That’s the way I keep telling the cooks to fry my eggs Hank. There are two sides, fry both of them please. :)

  15. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Quite astute of you ol’ boy.

  16. Annette
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    I’ve just heard some good news. Perhaps there really is a god – or some form of deity who’s looking out for people who are (or were) human.

    The family of the late actor Heath Ledger is evidently conducting his funeral in his native Australia. Far from the maddening crowds. Far from the bottom-feeding Phelpses.

    Far from the prurient and petty.

    Maybe there really is a god, my tattered faith notwithstanding.

    Last week, Ledger’s untimely death left me with a pervasive sadness. I loved his talent – and was riveted by his understated brilliance. So much so that in 2002, by the time Billy Bob Thornton belched, “I don’t wont tah hear nothin’ but that coffin hittin’ that dirt” in “Monster’s Ball” – I fled the theatre in horror. That scene really hit home with me – far more than was beneficial.

    Two years later, his then-girlfriend, fellow Aussie Naomi Watts, was nominated for an Oscar for her performance in “21 Grams.” Everyone was surprised to see Ledger on her arm at the ceremony, as they had reportedly broken up months before this.

    An “Entertainment Tonight” reporter approached Ledger as the couple stepped onto the red carpet. When asked why he was accompanying Watts, Ledger said, “Because I love her. And I support her.” I was moved by that; Ledger’s immaturity and wandering eye had reportedly contributed to their breakup. Yet there he was, proud of Watts’ stunning performance in “Grams” and unabashed (yet not over the top) about his feelings.

    That clip from four years ago kept revisiting my memory last week. Watts had strongly encouraged Ledger to accept the role in “Brokeback Mountain” which won him near-universal acclaim and an Oscar nom. of his own two years later.

    Ledger and Watts ended their relationship soon after that 2004 Oscar telecast, yet they remained friends. Indeed, it was on the set of “Brokeback” that Ledger met the eventual mother of his child, Michelle Williams.

    I don’t know exactly why all of this filled my mind and heart last week. Lots of people – famous and nondescript – have relationships that end. My thoughts probably should have been with his family.

    Instead, I kept thinking back to the late winter of 2004. And how Ledger had quietly debunked Howard Stern’s infamous comment that “men don’t have feelings – they have p—s feelings.”

    Six days have passed since Ledger’s death, and today I’m just pleased as punch that Phelps and his not-so-merry band of psychotics won’t be anywhere near Perth, Australia. I can’t be sure, but I think that recent civil judgement against the hate-mongering clan probably precludes their traveling that far.

    Then again, snakes can crawl on their bellies over great distances. Green slime can traverse through one’s intestines after food poisoning is contracted. But I hope with my heart of hearts that the Phelpses aren’t going anywhere.

    Ol’ Fred is getting a little long in the tooth, anyway. Ol’ “U.M.A.” (ugliest man alive) probably doesn’t have long for this world. And I couldn’t give a frolicking flip.

  17. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Phelps is insane enough to fly to Australia.

  18. Taz
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    I hope he does….I don’t believe the laws guaranteeing freedom of speech are quite as broad in Australia as they are here. Hopefully he will be arrested and jailed for a lonnnnnng time.

    Wouldn’t that be lovely????

  19. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    The world would hail Australia if that happened.

  20. The Phantom
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    He and his clan might get ‘accidentally’ eaten by crocks.

  21. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Did I miss anything? I just went outside for a morning smoke. Menthol lights. Really went well with my cup of coffee. Quiet, a little windy, but relaxing in the morning. That first drag is wonderful, right after that glorious smell when you first light up.

    Breathing in that first drag is wonderful. The immediate rush and alertness.

    But then I thought of Hillary and Ms. Kitty, and their plans to double the taxes on smokes! Ruined it for me. Oh well, at least I will be remembered as being the one funding all the healthcare for Americans.

    No that won’t work either. The tobacco settlement has already been forgotten. The dollars spent on everything nationally BUT healthcare and cessation programs.

    So I guess I’ll join the dying breed of smokers, who will not be honored for their brave contribution to healthcare.

    Gotta run. Time for a nice smoke break.

  22. The Phantom
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    I wouldn’t call being victim of war the same as being an American hero. Makes about as much sense as calling 9/11 victims heroes. McCain didn’ t choose to get shot down; 9/11 victims didn’t choose to die senslessly either.

  23. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Advance note on State of the Union.

    Looks like Bush is trying to return to his republican roots. Too little too late. Republicans have provent themselves just as greedy as democrats
    when it comes to pork (aka earmarks).

    But it’s a step in the right direction, will certainly provoke debate on the merits of deficit spending for legislatures to get reelected, and will force democrats to asknowledge their over 11,000 personal earmarks and 20 billion dollars.

    “The president plans to sign an executive order Tuesday “directing agencies to ignore any future earmarks included in report language, but not in the legislation,” Fratto said. The order will not be retroactive, he added.

    “The president will say that if these spending items are worthy, Congress should debate them in the open and hold a public vote,” Fratto said. “He will state his commitment to veto any spending bill that does not succeed in cutting earmarks in half from 2008 levels.” CNN

  24. The Phantom
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Almost funny, how after abusing the rules, Repubs. always want to change the rules when they no longer benefit from them!

  25. The Phantom
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    rules+system

  26. ghotiphaze
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    AmWay, your monologue on your morning ritual was JUST MEAN!!! You’re a GOOD christian, aren’t you?

  27. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    It’s sad,
    I’m as capitalist as any but when 10 corporations own 70% of the American economy that isn’t fair market, that’s fascism.

  28. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Something kooky, isn’t it great that this fasces will flank the President tonight during his State of the Disunion speech?

  29. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    See?

  30. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    Hey wait a minute! It still says, “In God We Trust”.
    With a new party in power, shouldn’t that be painted over?

  31. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    Some more news from the statehouse Friday.

    TEENAGE DRIVER BILL ON FAST TRACK
    “The House Transportation Committee is working on a bill delaying when
    teenagers can start driving. The committee chairman assigned the bill to a
    subcommittee for further study. SB 294, as passed by the Senate last
    session, would enact a graduated driver’s license system. The bill would
    modify the various permits and driver’s licenses and would raise the age at
    which most Kansans can obtain a learner’s permit from 14 to 15, although
    14-year-olds could still get such a permit for farm work.
    The learner’s permit would allow the teenager to drive with adult
    supervision. The bill would create a farm instructional permit for 14-
    year-olds to prepare them to take the driving test for a farm permit.
    The bill also would raise the age at which someone can get a restricted
    license from 15 to 16. It also would raise the age at which someone could
    get an unrestricted license to six months after turning 16, instead of
    immediately at age 16.
    Supporters, including insurance companies and law enforcement officers,
    believe the bill would reduce accidents among young drivers, but House
    Transportation Committee members were skeptical. That led to the appointment
    of a subcommittee.”

    That’s fine. But when are they going to start at the other end and take away some of these terrible old people drivers licenses?

  32. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Driving is a privilege and there most definitely should be driving tests after say, 70. They should be free and yearly for that demographic.

  33. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Max
    Posted January 27, 2008 at 2:23 pm | \l “comment-283000″
    “Gun control and drug use, both have very similar arguments.” WriterDog
    Huh?
    How exactly?

    Max, both have the argument that they are a personal choice and handled correctly are of no danger to the public at large. Opponents would say that neither have a real need in our society and are of a potential danger to public safety and there for should be banned. Statically speaking, the vast majority of either usage everyday does not result in harmful outcomes. Yet both can be sighted for the potential harm that there use would cause.

    Both at one time or another their usage can be sighted as being beneficial, for firearms it would be food on the table, safeguarding the home and for varmint control. For drugs such as Marijuana and Opium the reduction of pain and to combat depression. But also both have the argument that their present usage has become outdated. The Presents in the home can be seen as benign or dangerous to the residence of the home. Though the majority of either’s usage does not result in a harmful outcome, the random occurrence where there is harm done fires public outrage and a demand for their banning. The usage of one has been sighted leading to the usage of the other. But neither have a direct link to the other in their usage, it is more happenstance then not.

    Both have been used to fire up the base of one political party or the other and have become known as that party’s stance over others stances that party may hold.

  34. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    What’s this? Kathleen (aka kitty) Sebelius is requesting money to help our poor, poor, utility
    companies recover costs? Hope she is nice to Bush tonight. More for the statehouse:

    GOVERNOR DECLARES DISASTER DUE TO ICE STORMS
    “Gov.Sebelius has sent a letter to President George W. Bush requesting he
    declare a federal disaster for a number of Kansas counties impacted by the severe ice storms that swept the state beginning Dec. 10, 2007 and continuing through Dec. 19, 2007. Six deaths
    were reported, two persons were hospitalized, 11 others injured and more than 183,000 customers were without power at the height of the storms.
    Joint federal/state Preliminary Disaster Assessment Teams estimate that damages to public infrastructure resulting from these storms is in excess of $170 million. Approximately $140 million is in damages to Kansas Rural
    Electric Cooperatives and municipal utilities.
    Sebelius requested federal Public Assistance, which provides reimbursement to the counties and certain non-profits, including rural electric cooperatives. for 59 counties: Atchison, Barber, Barton, Brown, Butler, Chase, Cherokee, Clark, Clay, Cloud, Comanche, Crawford, Dickinson,
    Doniphan, Edwards, Ellis, Ellsworth, Ford, Geary, Graham, Harvey, Hodgeman, Jackson, Jefferson, Jewell, Kingman, Kiowa, Labette, Leavenworth, Lincoln, Lyon, McPherson, Marion, Marshall, Mitchell, Morris, Nemaha, Osage, Osborne,
    Ottawa, Pawnee, Phillips, Pottawatomie, Pratt, Reno, Republic, Rice, Riley, Rooks, Rush, Russell, Saline, Sedgwick, Shawnee, Smith, Stafford, Wabaunsee,Washington and Woodson.
    Sebelius made the Public Assistance request for Categories A (Debris Removal), B (Emergency Protective Measures), E (Building and Equipment) and (Utilities). The governor also requested Hazard Mitigation for all 105 counties. Hazard mitigation is defined as cost-effective action taken to prevent or reduce the threat of future damage to a facility. “

  35. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Oh and Regular sorry to not comment yesterday I got caught up doing other things.
    Not really, I know that other are like me in the Party. They do not agree with everything that is said or done in the Republican party’s name. At one time the planks of the GOP were broad enough and of a general agreement to all. But no I do not think that every Democrat nor Republican holds the exact same stance with their party. From living in Oklahoma for a time I can tell you the Democrats there are more likely to agree with at least Moderate Republican than the Democrats in other parts of the country. And on such issues as Abortion their are in line with the social conservatives at least in the area I was living in.
    Perhaps that is why I do not see every Democrat as an enemy combatant like JR sees every Republican.
    For that matter neither do I see every Republican as a Neoconservative in fact I do not see ever Neo-con as a Neoconservative. I do see that the Neoconservatives are NOT in fact Republicans. We are simply a vessel for them to use.

    I have seen in your posts at times that you do not tote the party line on everything. Good on you!

  36. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    And all republicans are NOT Christian Right.

  37. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    I need to go to bed too many mistakes later people!

  38. XXX
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    President Bush took on Congress today over its appetite for special spending projects, announcing a new strategy of vetoes and executive action to cut the number of so-called earmarks in half during his final year in office and to open the rest to more scrutiny and debate.

    A spokeswoman who previewed Bush’s State of the Union address tonight, said the president has vowed to veto any spending bills for the 2009 fiscal year that do not cut the number of earmarks in half and said he will order agencies to ignore any projects listed in conference reports rather than in legislation.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/28/AR2008012801279.html?hpid=topnews

    My God, Bush is doing something that not only do I support, I totally agree with! Mark this day on the calendar!

  39. poster
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Hansen: White House ‘Reviews And Edits’ All Testimony By Government Scientists

    In 2006, the government’s top global warming researcher, James Hansen, revealed the government’s efforts to muzzle him from speaking out about climate change. NASA political appointees reviewed all his lectures, papers, and requests for interviews from journalists.

    In a new e-mail, Hansen reveals that the censoring is not only happening to him, but to all government scientists. He writes that the White House Office of Management and Budget reviews all scientific testimony to make sure that it’s “consistent with the President’s budget”:

    Do you know that before a government scientist testifies to Congress his/her testimony is typically reviewed and edited by the White House Office of Management and Budget? When I asked for a justification, I was told that a government scientist’s testimony “needs to be consistent with the President’s budget”.

    Huh? There have never been any budget numbers in my testimony or in the testimony of most scientists. And OMB’s editing of the scientific content is invariably designed to make the testimony fit better with the position of the political party in power (yes, it is a bi-partisan problem). Where is it stated or implied in the Constitution that the Executive Branch should have such authority? (Actually, does the Constitution not vest control of the purse strings to Congress?) Why does not Congress get incensed about this and fight back?

    In October, Dr. Julie Gerberding, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, had her congressional testimony on the “Human Impacts of Global Warming” “eviscerated” by the OMB. The final version had almost no references to the impacts of global warming.

    In Jan. 2007, a survey found that 46 percent of government scientists “personally experienced pressure to eliminate the words ‘climate change,’ ‘global warming,’ or other similar terms from a variety of communications.”

  40. TDT
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    I saw on the news last night that Hillary is trying to get the Florida and Michigan delegates counted, which would be very helpful for her. Personally, I hope the DNC doesn’t change their minds, because that would be incredibly unfair. Edwards and Obama weren’t even on the Michigan ballot.

  41. Springfield
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Sebelius, A leadership void in the Heartland

    Since getting elected the Governor has:

    Proposed tax increases totaling over $600 million. These tax increases included hiking state sales taxes by 8%, income taxes by 5%, and property taxes by 10%

    Promised to “twist arms” to get a $0.50 per pack cigarette tax increase passed.

    Imposed on Kansas the 15the highest state-local tax burden in the nation. It has risen 6% since Sebelius took office.

    Increased government spending 28% since she took office, while at the same time job growth has been well behind the national average.

    Failed to produce private sector jobs. Kansas now ranks 49th in its economic climate rank which “reflects job, income, and gross state product growth as well as unemployment and presence of big companies.” (www.forbes.com)

    Demonstrated that only kind of jobs she knows how to create are government jobs. Kansas is third-highest state in the country in the number of government employees per capita.

    Rejected the permit for a coal-fired power plant in western Kansas, solely on the grounds that coal plants produce carbon emissions. Kansas is now the only state in the country that takes the radical view that no new coal plant shall ever be built. Her decision cost the state 2,400 jobs. It also made it impossible for seven new wind farms to be built near the plant.

    Chairman Kobach added, “Sebelius has the most radical and nonsensical environmentalist agenda of all the governors in America. And she evidently doesn’t care how many jobs Kansas loses.”

    Additionally, since Sebelius has taken office, she has vetoed legislation that would have stopped frivolous litigation from harming businesses and driving up the cost of healthcare.

    Since Sebelius took office in 2002, Kansas has dropped 9 places in the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reforms state rankings.

    Kansas has received a “D” by the American College of Emergency Physicians on medical liability. Governor Sebelius has stated, “Perhaps my objectivity has been seriously compromised by my trial lawyers employment, but the premise that people are too eager to use the courts seems hollow to me.” (Sebelius is the former Executive Director of the Kansas Trial Lawyers Association.)

  42. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Mc Cain gives some straight talk, more wars to come, my friends

    What a freak.

  43. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Fair turnaround on illegal immigration:

    Mexico Tourism http://www.kerman94.com/mexicotourism.html

    Lot’s of laughs.

  44. cosmos
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Springfield posted January 28, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Kansas is now the only state in the country that takes the radical view that no new coal plant shall ever be built.

    False.
    Other states have denied coal plant permits because of CO2 emissions.

  45. ksagnostic
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    “Chairman Kobach added, ‘Sebelius has the most radical and nonsensical environmentalist agenda of all the governors in America. And she evidently doesn’t care how many jobs Kansas loses.’

    So evidently, you got this straight from the Kansas Republican Party.

    Kris Koback, the Ingrid Newkirk of the Kansas Republican Party.

    You cut and pasted that whole screed, didn’t you Springfield?

  46. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    It takes a lot for a seasoned politician like Kennedy to support someone new – over his longtime relationship and friendship with the Clinton’s. Folks I think they are on to something here. It is more telling for what the Kennedy family is NOT saying:

    “WASHINGTON (CNN) — Sen. Edward Kennedy backed Sen. Barack Obama for president Monday, saying: “It is time again for a new generation of leadership.”

    “It is time now for Barack Obama,” the Massachusetts senator and brother of the late President Kennedy added.

    He stood with Obama, his son Rep. Patrick Kennedy and his niece, Caroline Kennedy before a screaming capacity crowd of students at American University in Washington, DC.

    “Like you, we want a president who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American dream,” he said.”

  47. Posted January 28, 2008 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    From Congressman Robert Wexler >>>

    Tonight, President Bush will issue what will thankfully be his final State of the Union address; but, little of what he says can be trusted.

    For the past seven years, we have watched as America has moved steadily backwards. We have become a nation that is less free and less fair. We have become a nation that no longer values the right to privacy and has tragically retreated from our cherished foundations.

    Nothing George W. Bush says tonight will change the sad reality of the America he has given us:

    - Our economy teeters on the edge of recession while property taxes spike and homeowners are losing their homes at record levels;

    - Our educational system is broken and our teachers are abandoned;

    - Our roads and bridges languish in disrepair, while our borders and ports remain under-inspected and insecure;

    - Our most basic ideals about law and justice have been tossed out, as our President uses fear to pursue his reckless agenda; and

    - We remain mired in Iraq – a war built on lies and manipulated intelligence.

    Nowhere in American history – not even Watergate -have we been confronted with an Administration so ambivalent about the truth and established law. A recent nonpartisan study found that the Bush Administration lied over 900 times in the prelude to the Iraq war, misleading us on nearly every critical issue.

    It is time that we reclaim this country and undo the damage wrought by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

    Democrats in Congress must stand up and lead – no matter the cost.

    We need to finally act on the promises of the 2006 election and stop at nothing to bring our troops home from the Iraq. If we do not act Bush will install a permanent US presence in Iraq and John McCain’s vision of a 100 year US occupation will become reality.

    It is time that we faced up to our global responsibilities and begin to prevent global warming. In the richest nation on earth, it is long past time that we provide health insurance to every single American.

    We must aggressively pursue impeachment hearings for Vice President Dick Cheney due to serious allegations of abuse of power including illegal wiretapping, torture, and deliberate lies to bring us to war.

    Fifteen members of Congress – including 4 Judiciary Committee members – have already joined my call to Chairman Conyers for impeachment hearings and more are joining each day.

    Bush Administration officials and cabinet members must answer questions – on the record – regarding illegal wiretapping, torture, and what I perceive as deliberate, knowing lies to the American people in an effort to bring us to war in Iraq.

    Impeachment hearings are essential because the Administration has recklessly used claims of executive privilege to block key witnesses from testifying. Impeachment hearings could force the Administration to drop their executive privilege claims and we would then finally get the answers this nation deserves. We are making progress with over 216,000 Americans already registering their support at http://WexlerWantsHearings.com.

    We must rededicate ourselves to the core values of this nation and finally deliver to the American people the change they demanded when they stood up and voted for Democrats in 2006.

    I value your support, and I am thankful for your patriotism. Together, we can begin to restore the state of our Union.

    With warm regards,

    Congressman Robert Wexler

  48. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    I love the sound of impeachment. If we can do it for a fellating, maybe destroying the constitution is worth it as well.

  49. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer do you want a box of kleenex for that whine?
    But keep it up, it makes me laugh.

    I heard tell there is an asteroid barrelling toward the earth – and Bush caused that too. The evidence is all the UFO’s being seen where? Texas!!

    Impeach him. No, heck, let’s crucify him! No, he ain’t good enough. Let’s run him up a tree and tar and feather him boys.

    LoL!

  50. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    PLEASE BILL CLINTON DO NOT SHUT UP! Do not let them silence you!! Do NOT let them make you be quiet!! Do NOT stop confusing the democratic voters!!

    Please keep your mouth motor running Bill. You are the best thing a conservative could ever ask for (well, besides a clear candidate of my own):

    “CNN) – Democratic sources supportive of and regularly in touch with the Clinton campaign describe what one calls “a huge wave” of sentiment that Bill Clinton “needs to stop.”

    And it’s too late, baby, now it’s too late Though we really did try to make it Something inside has died and I can’t hide And I just can’t fake it …

  51. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    You are one blind, dogmatic automaton.

    I voted for the bastard twice. At least I can admit I screwed up, you?, you’re just ignorant, you can’t help it. You “patriot”, you.

  52. Springfield
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    ksagnostic; Posted January 28, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    “So evidently, you got this straight from the Kansas Republican Party.”

    Factual truth is just that regardless from where it originates. No attempt was made to hide the ‘cut and paste’, that’s the best way to get it accurate.

  53. Ben
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    “Factual truth” – only in the minds of right-wing extremists.

  54. TDT
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Wexler’s page is temporarily unavailable. That sucks, ’cause I just haven’t been able to figure out how, as Pleefer alluded, we can impeach a president for a blow job, but can’t impeach a president who tortures, wiretaps regular citizens, and takes us to war to increase his bank account using lies and fear.

  55. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    “Wexler’s page is temporarily unavailable”

    That depends on what the meaning “is” is.

    :)

  56. Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/world/middleeast/29iraq.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

    January 29, 2008
    5 U.S. Soldiers Killed in Iraq
    By RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr.
    BAGHDAD — Five American soldiers were killed in the northern city of Mosul on Monday when militants attacked them with a roadside bomb and then fired on their patrol from a nearby mosque with machine guns, military officials said. The troops returned fire and Iraqi forces raided the mosque, but the gunmen had fled, they said.

    It was the second catastrophic attack on United States forces this month, after a house rigged with explosives killed six soldiers in Diyala three weeks ago. The attack underscored the grim situation in Mosul, Iraq’s northern hub, which remains a stronghold for Sunni extremist fighters.

    In addition, as many as 60 people were killed and 280 wounded in a huge blast in Mosul on Wednesday as Iraqi soldiers entered a building packed with thousands of pounds of explosives. The following day the provincial police chief was assassinated after he visited the site of the blast and an angry crowd of people gathered around him.

    ******

    3,940 + five more = 3,945.

    Will we make 4,000 American dead by the fifth anniversary in March?

    Very likely . . .

  57. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Special recognition to the “Death Count Cheerleader” CapnAmerica.

  58. Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    “I heard tell there is an asteroid barrelling toward the earth”

    The asteroid will miss the Earth by 335,000 miles – the Bush impact on the country and the Earth has hit much closer to home.

  59. Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Capn’, the Cons don’t want to hear anything about dead soldiers – they don’t care – to their way of thinking, they would have died sooner or later anyway.

    They just don’t care about our dead and wounded – it means nothing to them.

  60. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    We’ll just rename CapnAmerica, Baghdad Brad like Hanoi Hannah.

  61. cosmos
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Springfield posted January 28, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Factual truth is just that regardless from where it originates. No attempt was made to hide the ‘cut and paste’, that’s the best way to get it accurate.

    Springfield posted January 28, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Kansas is now the only state in the country that takes the radical view that no new coal plant shall ever be built.

    Springfield believes that GOP lies = “factual truth”. How long will they lie?

    ‘Coal plants cancelled in 2007′
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Coal_plants_cancelled_in_2007
    Climate concerns have begun to play a major role in plant abandonments and cancellations: Concerns about global warming played a major role in 15 cases. These included five proposed Florida plants …, seven proposals in Western states that have newly implemented strict carbon regulations on coal…
    More details at link.

  62. ksagnostic
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Just so GD stupid I have to quote it again:

    “Chairman Kobach added, ‘Sebelius has the most radical and nonsensical environmentalist agenda of all the governors in America. And she evidently doesn’t care how many jobs Kansas loses.’

    This is Kathleen Sebelius Kobach is referring to.

    Anybody who knows much of anything of any depth about Kansas politics knows just how flat out stupid that comment is.

    Yoo hoo, Springfield. Sebelius was for the power plant before she was agin’ it. And even then, she foisted the decision on Bremby, then stood by him, I suspect, when she saw that the wind was blowing against the power plant.

    In addition to greenhouse gases, let’s use the water Colorado hasn’t stolen from us to generate electrical power for them.

    Cerebral intertia. Remarkable.

    Kobach, the Kansas Republican’s Ingrid Newkirk.

  63. ksagnostic
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    “We’ll just rename CapnAmerica, Baghdad Brad like Hanoi Hannah.”

    Re: Regular
    DNFTT

  64. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Have you ever seen the pigs at the trough when someone is slopping the hogs? All the pigs are filthy dirty, greedily fighting to get their suck. Well, it appears the democrats are busy at the trough again. The Economic Discouragement Plan is scheduled to put us 150 billion dollars further in debt. But they just cannot seem to get enough!

    “But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, has said the Senate would consider adding to that plan, including extending unemployment benefits, boosting home heating subsidies, raising food stamp benefits and approving money for public works projects.” (CNN)

  65. poster
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Cartoon “MOUNT LIESMORE”

    http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20080126/lcrmlu080126.gif

  66. J R
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    “Tonight, President bush will make his last State of the Union address.”

    I just LOVE how that sounds!

    Hope we get a thread so we can dissect the twisting, gymnastic, lie feast it will be.

  67. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    (you don’t want to read this, it takes some thought)
    I guess it depends on how you see the death of five more U.S. soldiers, for some it is only five and no big deal. They volunteered, they knew they could be killed, so suck it up and be thankful it was only five!
    Its a small price to pay so we do not fail, to fail would mean that we would have to own this war. That the United States would have been at fault for it. No we must not let the terrorists win, then forever we would have been wrong to have invaded! WE must win, it is no longer about a threat to our country from a small group of foreign ideologists. It is about admitting that OUR ideologists were wrong and that just will not do.
    It transcends the concept of right and wrong, for he who wins sets the very concept of right and wrong!

    That is more important then five soldiers or ten thousand soldiers lives, it would only be a mistake if we lose. That is how it has always been, whether it be a military dictator or a Nation in enraged “History will be kind to us as we are the ones writing it”. We can not let others to grab the pen from us while we write it, so these Americans dieing does not matter. Every night in the back seat of a car there are many teenagers making new soldiers. But there is only one right and only one chance to decide it for once decided it can not be undecided, That is until time has passed and we can rewrite the history books to be more favorable to our ideology. For it is ideology and not mere human life or Country that is important neither will be important when the end comes. It is the moment ideology that matters and it need not be based on reality or on right and wrong. It is perception that matters, that is the driving force in life, the moment entertainment.

    Or you could see Nathan’s face on every dead body, young, Vidal, the future of a nation laying broken and bloody. Having died without question in his mind, he died for his country and believing his death will have served the greater good. Not wanting to die but still allowing himself into the fray for the greater good.

    The Greater good, a moments thought these days it would seem, but then that is all the time allowed for such matters.

  68. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    (You do not want to read this, it takes some thought)
    I guess it depends on how you see the death of five more U.S. soldiers, for some it is only five and no big deal. They volunteered, they knew they could be killed, so suck it up and be thankful it was only five!
    Its a small price to pay so we do not fail, to fail would mean that we would have to own this war. That the United States would have been at fault for it. No we must not let the terrorists win, then forever we would have been wrong to have invaded! WE must win, it is no longer about a threat to our country from a small group of foreign ideologists. It is about admitting that OUR ideologists were wrong and that just will not do.
    It transcends the concept of right and wrong, for he who wins sets the very concept of right and wrong!

    That is more important then five soldiers or ten thousand soldiers lives, it would only be a mistake if we lose. That is how it has always been, whether it be a military dictator or a Nation in enraged “History will be kind to us as we are the ones writing it”. We can not let others to grab the pen from us while we write it, so these Americans dieing does not matter. Every night in the back seat of a car there are many teenagers making new soldiers. But there is only one right and only one chance to decide it for once decided it can not be undecided, That is until time has passed and we can rewrite the history books to be more favorable to our ideology. For it is ideology and not mere human life or Country that is important neither will be important when the end comes. It is the moment ideology that matters and it need not be based on reality or on right and wrong. It is perception that matters, that is the driving force in life, the moment entertainment.

    Or you could see Nathan’s face on every dead body, young, Vidal, the future of a nation laying broken and bloody. Having died without question in his mind, he died for his country and believing his death will have served the greater good. Not wanting to die but still allowing himself into the fray for the greater good.

    The Greater good, a moments thought these days it would seem, but then that is all the time allowed for such matters.

  69. Springfield
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    ksagnostic, Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:24 pm
    “Yoo hoo, Springfield. Sebelius was for the power plant before she was agin’ it. And even then, she foisted the decision on Bremby, then stood by him, I suspect, when she saw that the wind was blowing against the power plant.”

    Sounds like a DemLib, ‘for it before they’re against it’. Will blow back the other way too if they think that is politically expedient.

    The plants will get built after an expensive legal process. And when they are I’ll be laughing encouraging you to go out there and stick you head in the stack.

  70. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Well, I tried watching George, couldn’t hack it. It seemed that taking a shower gave me more hope than listening to that drivel.

  71. Apophis
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    You’re correct bush is just babbling on and on and on…………

    …………….Less than a year until the great national disgraces ends

  72. Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    PROTECT OUR TROOPS… BRING THEM HOME NOW!!

  73. Rage
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    When he threw out that line about medical decisions being made by doctors and patients, I got a bit confused. What?? Did he suddenly become pro-choice? Was he regretting the Terry Schaivo fiasco?

    Naaah—of course not! I bet he just wants a certain class of other medical decisions to stay where they belong: firmly in the iron grip of Big Insurance .

  74. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Bush just talked about the Sunnis turning against Al-Qaeda and working with U.S. Troops to his credit.
    It reminded me of the outcome of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Bin Laden took credit for the Soviet withdraw and the U.S. also took credit for the withdraw.

    Need I point out though, the actions of the U.S. was not what got the Sunnis to side with us at least for the time being. It was the actions of Al-Qaeda that forced them to turn against Al-Qaeda. The Muslims in general have a concept called the “Greater and the lesser Jihad” Al-Qaeda simply became the Great Jihad for them. We just happen to be standing on the side-lines when it happened.

  75. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    As the camera pans across the gallery, you see from a wave of standing, shouting and clapping souls.
    To the other side where only one soul is clapping, a slender man, white haired and alone in a sea of those that find nothing to clap about! Heeeeee

  76. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    “So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause?”-Padmé Naberrie Amidala

  77. ken
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Watched him for 5 minutes — got tired of the bull shit and lies — 1 year — worse president ever — watching the history of the Gambino crime family was better yet some how appropriate ……………

  78. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Different name, same game Ken.

  79. ken
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    ty was the point I was making

  80. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Now they put Romney on???Not hard to see who NBC is trying to sell.

  81. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    She still would not do it! My wife who so gleefully told me her vote in 2004 cancelled out my vote.
    Refuses to watch the State of the union address! SHE voted for him both times ( I only voted for him once)
    yet her pride has never reached the point where she can stand to even watch him for even a few minutes?

  82. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    The Gov is doing Kansas good!

  83. Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    The GOV said mostly nothing!!

  84. Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    But you’re right, Dog… she did Kansas good by saying mostly nothing!! LOL

  85. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    OH really? So Chas how has being apart worked so well? How has putting partisan politics above the country made it better? Least we forget, it is the United States of ? is it the conservatives? No that dog don’t hunt! Wait it is the Liberals! No that just does not work either. Hey I read this somewhere! ITS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WOW what a radical concept, outdated, pass it prim the very thought that in times of trouble we might actually be one country is just nonsense huh?

    No she said a lot, it just the blind can not see the words….

  86. J R
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Thank you Kathy that was hideous.

    I am so SICK of this coming together crap!

    bush’s speech wasn’t about that. It was about rewriting and history AND trying to script the future.

    “We agree, that US vital interests in the Persian gulf must be protected.”

    WHAT vital interests? It is NOT our oil.

  87. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    I have to go to work, China needs me to sell some more of the poison toys!

  88. Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Dog, usually, the Democratic Response is just that… a Partisan response… She pulled an Obama… by talking about the American People, instead of Dem/Rep people… It was a different kind of Response to the SOTU speech…

  89. J R
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Yeah well I’m sorry writerdog.

    But folks on YOUR side of things have had their way on us for 14 damn years.

    Can you say America is better for it?

    You damn bet I am ready for some pay back.

  90. Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Apparently, the DNC figured it wasnt worth the air time or effort to just debunk all of Bush’s tired old over-used same-old-same-old lines he has used every year since 9/11 —

    So, Gov. Sebelius just said what was left to say… Time to get on with the things that matter to the American People… Not to Dems, or Repubs. or Black or White… But to the American People…

  91. Regular
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    People are elected to serve the people, not a particular party.

    Payback is for lowlife morons.

  92. ksagnostic
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    “Sounds like a DemLib, ‘for it before they’re against it’. Will blow back the other way too if they think that is politically expedient.”

    In case you hadn’t figured it out, I am no fan of Sebelius. On the other hand, if you think only “DemLibs” flip flop with the political wind, then, well, in your case, I can’t say I would be surprised. Reality does not seem to be your strong suit.

    “The plants will get built after an expensive legal process. And when they are I’ll be laughing encouraging you to go out there and stick you head in the stack.”

    See above.

  93. The Phantom
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    It was nice to see Kansas mentioned on the Natl. networks, and not be the butt of a joke for once!
    I think Sebelius will be Obama’s running mate. I also think she did well, the majority of people I believe are extremely tired of divisiveness, and truly want a new direction for the country.

  94. cosmos
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Springfield posted January 28, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    The plants will get built after an expensive legal process. And when they are I’ll be laughing encouraging you to go out there and stick you head in the stack.

    Will that be before, or after Congress passes carbon taxes, that increase the rates for coal-fired power, and coal transport costs?

    Before, or after more people learn that increasing end-use energy efficiency, and renewables are cheaper than building very expensive central coal plants?

    You better win that lawsuit soon, and start building fast!

    ‘Coal plants cancelled in 2007?
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Coal_plants_cancelled_in_2007

  95. cosmos
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Springfield posted January 28, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    The plants will get built after an expensive legal process. And when they are I’ll be laughing encouraging you to go out there and stick you head in the stack.

    Will that be before, or after Congress passes carbon taxes, that increase the rates for coal-fired power, and coal transport costs?

    Before, or after more people learn that increasing end-use energy efficiency, and renewables are cheaper than building very expensive central coal plants?

    You better win that lawsuit soon, and start building fast!

    ‘Coal plants cancelled in 2007?
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Coal_plants_cancelled_in_2007

  96. American Way
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    None of the candidates said jack shit.
    No specifics, only general statements.

    Bush put forth proposals.

    Half the audience standing, half sitting.

    We remain,

    A nation divided.

  97. J R
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Bush put forth edicts.

    And yeah we are a nation divided.

    And the GOP is about to get run over like a semi running over a road apple.

  98. Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Funny — I didnt hear Bush put forth anything except the tired old, worn out phrases that he has been using ever since 9/11..

    You cant make proposals by looking in the rear view mirror!!

  99. Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Remember — Great words of Confusion say:

    Him who have one eye on the past, and one eye on the future, is cockeyed in the present…

    Yesterday is a memory; Tomorrow is a dream;

    TODAY is a gift… Thats why we call it the Present!!

  100. Political_mama
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    How sad that we didn’t have a state of the union thread.

  101. Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    Humans have altered Earth so much that scientists say a new epoch in the planet’s geologic history has begun.

    Say goodbye to the 10,000-year-old Holocene Epoch and hello to the Anthropocene.

    Among the major changes heralding this two-century-old man-made epoch:

    Vastly altered sediment erosion and deposition patterns.

    Major disturbances to the carbon cycle and global temperature.

    Wholesale changes in biology, from altered flowering times to new migration patterns.

    Acidification of the ocean, which threatens tiny marine life that forms the bottom of the food chain.

    The idea, first suggested in 2000 by Nobel Prize-winning chemist Paul Crutzen, has gained steam with two new scientific papers that call for official recognition of the shift.

    Vivid metaphor

    In the February issue of the journal GSA Today, a publication of the Geological Society of America, Jan Zalasiewicz and Mark Williams of the University of Leicester and colleagues at the Geological Society of London argue that industrialization has wrought changes that usher in a new epoch.

    Scientists of the future will have no trouble deciding if the proposal was timely. All they’ll need to do is dig into the planet and examine its stratigraphic layers, which reveal a chronology of the changing conditions that existed as each layer is created. Layers can reflect volcanic upheaval, ice ages or mass extinctions.

    “Sufficient evidence has emerged of stratigraphically significant change (both elapsed and imminent) for recognition of the Anthropocene — currently a vivid yet informal metaphor of global environmental change — as a new geological epoch to be considered for formalization by international discussion,” Zalasiewicz’s team writes.

    The paper calls on the International Commission on Stratigraphy to officially mark the shift.

    In a separate paper last month in the journal Soil Science, researchers focused on soil infertility alone as a reason to dub this the Anthropocene Age. (The term “age” is sometimes used interchangeably with “epoch” or to indicate a transition period between epochs.)

    As an example, they said, agriculture in Africa “has so degraded regional soil fertility that the economic development of whole nations will be diminished without drastic improvements of soil management.”

    “With more than half of all soils on Earth now being cultivated for food crops, grazed, or periodically logged for wood, how to sustain Earth’s soils is becoming a major scientific and policy issue,” said Duke University soil scientist Daniel Richter.

    Richter’s work was supported by the National Science Foundation, the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation.

    Origin of a term Earth’s 4.5-billion-year history is divided into major eras, then periods and finally epochs. The Holocene Epoch began after the last Ice Age.

    As early as the late 1800s scientists were writing about man’s wholesale impact on the planet and the possibility of an “anthropozoic era” having begun, according to Crutzen, who is credited with coining the term Anthropocene (anthropo = human; cene = new) back in 2000. That year, Crutzen and a colleague wrote in the scientific newsletter International Geosphere-Biosphere Programme about some of the dramatic changes: “Urbanization has … increased tenfold in the past century. In a few generations mankind is exhausting the fossil fuels that were generated over several hundred million years.”

    Up to half of Earth’s land has been transformed by human activity, wrote Crutzen and Eugene F. Stoermer of the University of Michigan. They also noted the dramatic increase in greenhouse gases and other chemicals and pollutants humans have introduced into global ecosystems.

    The epochal idea has merit, according to geologist Richard Alley of Pennsylvania State University.

    “In land, water, air, ice, and ecosystems, the human impact is clear, large, and growing,”Alley told ScienceNow, an online publication of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. “A geologist from the far distant future almost surely would draw a new line, and begin using a new name, where and when our impacts show up.”

  102. Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Link to above article >>>

    http://www.livescience.com/environment/080127-new-epoch.html

  103. J R
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Second that political mama.

    Editors? What was up with that?

  104. Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    PMama… They will probably put one up tomorrow morning…. Maybe they didnt want to keep anybody up all night tonite!! LOL

  105. Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    OR… they could just be so excited about Obama coming tomorrow, they forgot all about the President’s Speech!!

  106. parkay
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    New KS RINO House District 17 Rep. Jill Quigley reports lunching with the baby-hating KS Choice Coalition, celebrating the heinous, brutal slaughter of 50 million American babies in just 35 years.
    Never, never, never trust a RINO.

  107. J R
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    Quoting bush:

    “We believe American workers can compete in a world economy”

    Translation: Americans must learn to live down to the standard of living of illegal aliens and Chinese slave labor.

  108. GMC70
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

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  109. Republic
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Sebelius said nothing of importance. Same old rhetoric, speaking in generalities and platitudes. Again expressing the idea that non-partisanship is doing everything the DemLibs want to do. She again showed she is nothing but a pretty skirt, at least some say so, but says nothing and does nothing of any importance. Lets hope the rest of Kansas and the country have now come to realize that after her dribble tonight.

  110. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    Seems like democrats from across the country were not as impressed as her adoring kansas fan club.

    Interesting comments here

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×4257131

  111. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    She will endorse Obama tomorrow. Bet on it.

    However…

    seems like some REAL democrats prefered Biden’s response to governor “leadership’s” DLC/reid and pelosi approved pablum.

    The comments here are priceless…

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×2784087

  112. Posted January 29, 2008 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    Well, Good night; Good luck;
    God bless, whatever you conceive God to be!

    Blessings All!!

  113. cosmos
    Posted January 29, 2008 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    GMC70,

    Carbon offsets, and carbon taxes will be very important in the near future.

    Will you continue to deny reality then?

  114. cosmos
    Posted January 29, 2008 at 12:30 am | Permalink

    GMC70,

    Carbon offsets, and carbon taxes will be very important in the near future.

    How will you continue to deny reality then?

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