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Has anyone saw the new Franklin Mint Dollars? They say they accidently removed “GOD” from them. They are “GODLESS”. This is allowed to be circulated? Guess so. The catch, they are rare and Congress controls who gets them. Congress, the “Anti-God” Politicians decide which fellow “God-Less” idiot gets the coins. I am hoping people boycott these coins. They are not true American Currency. Thanks agian Herbert West III, west.herb@yahoo.com , http://www.wen2k.com {top 25}. Again, I do not get paid for or at http://www.wen2k.com .

Boycott them???

Only people with too much money and too little sense can afford to buy 1 dollar coins for 20 bucks. How many have you stockpiled, Herb?

writerdog: Stupidity like this appointment is now expected from America worldwide, where laughter and amusement has replaced concern and understanding for America.I doubt our friends, our real friends, the long times friends and allies with whom we have shared the spilling of blood in sacred causes, friends and allies now demeaned and diminished by this administration and it’s rabid supporters, will give any credence to an American thought process for a least a generation. Sad, Sad, Sad.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/25392.html

Immigration officials detaining, deporting American citizens
By Marisa Taylor | McClatchy Newspapers

Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008
U.S. citizens detained?

FLORENCE, Ariz. — Thomas Warziniack was born in Minnesota and grew up in Georgia, but immigration authorities pronounced him an illegal immigrant from Russia.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement has held Warziniack for weeks in an Arizona detention facility with the aim of deporting him to a country he’s never seen. His jailers shrugged off Warziniack’s claims that he was an American citizen, even though they could have retrieved his Minnesota birth certificate in minutes and even though a Colorado court had concluded that he was a U.S. citizen a year before it shipped him to Arizona.

On Thursday, Warziniack finally became a free man. Immigration officials released him after his family, who learned about his predicament from McClatchy, produced a birth certificate and after a U.S. senator demanded his release……..

Don’t you all think the Guvment should start some public announcement commercials letting people know that making use of some company’s “quick refund” process are being charge enormous interest rates on getting their money early.

Shouldn’t the Guvment be doing something to protect these idiots who do this. Shouldn’t the Guvment be spending more money dealing with this “Refund loan crisis”.

Maybe putting an IRS agent in each of these stores and when people come in to do one of these quick refunds, the agent must grab them by the shoulders, look them straight into the eye and tell them that paying 28% interest to get money 3 weeks sooner is STUPID, IDIOTIC, MORONIC etc.
THEN we can say that we did EVERYTHING we could do to protect stupid people from themselves. I sure know I’d sleep better at night.

WHO WILL PROTECT THE IDIOTS?? THE GUVMENT!

“making use of some company’s “quick refund” process are being charge enormous interest rates on getting their money early.Maybe putting an IRS agent in each of these stores ”

Gene surely you jest. The gubermint WANTS people to spend the money as fast as possible. The gubermint WANTS the shark and loans to get a quick infusion of cash in THEIR wallets and rake in the exorbitant interest payments.

You gotta be kidding, but there are those who would agree. Like those “idiots” who signed subprime mortgage agreements? Why, the gubermint should make the contract forms easier for the “poor idiots” to read. (They are looking into Dr Seuss language and using font size 29.)

Maybe the gubermint should just put a microchip into every American. That way, anytime a citizen tries to do anything outside the acceptable norm, they can quickly send them a shock, and provide a gubermint supplied acceptable course of action. You know, like a kindly big brother.

Hank Price posted January 26, 2008 at 12:11 am

“Maybe, just maybe, it annoys me to see cheap politicians and their minions like cosmos try and destroy the economy of the greatest country in the world with junk science. Maybe, all I want is honest debate.”

Wow! I didn’t know that I had so much power! /sarcasm OFF

The consensus re global warming already has had an “honest debate”.

Hank Price can’t seem to understand the difference between careful, tedious scientific methodology, and nonscientific opinions, like E.G. Beck’s.

Here are some of Hank Price’s “cheap politicians and their minions“,

‘Geophysicists Urge Steep Cuts in Greenhouse Gas Emissions
The American Geophysical Union says massive reductions in greenhouse gases will be needed — and scientists should speak up about it’
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=geophysicists-urge-steep-cuts-in-greenhouse-gases

I had something interesting happen last night. A friend (or now, ex-friend), message me last night. Granted he was drunk, but we have often shared many a night sparring as he’s a neocon. He obviously came looking for a fight- which was fine till he realized I kicked his ass in the debate and then resorted to some really nasty personal attacks.

Anyway, he kept telling me that the USA has money to blow. That it’s good to have debt, that it can’t be paid back, and that we have all the money in the world to spend. He said the billions we’re spending for war is but a fraction of the GDP and insigificant. Yes, insignificant…the cost of our war.

I said…ok let me get this right….it’s ok and insignificant to blow billions (trillions) on war, but we can’t provide healthcare because it costs too much?

So there you go. The republicans hound about fiscal responsibility, but the money to support a war is no big deal. we’ve got plenty to blow.
The debt is no big deal.

Cosmos do you really think that there is one person on this blog or a reader who really reads your articles anymore. Minds are made up. To start this argument over every day just hurts your cause. I read your posts at first, even made some changes in my lifestyle to become more ‘green’ but you are killing my will. I am ready to go buy the largest SUV I can find, leave my lights on 24/7, dig up the trees I planted, leave the water running when brushing my teeth. Do you get the drift. You putting down Hank for presenting an opposite view to your daily Algore worship is over the top. You have never met a person in the opposition you like or who has any credibility.

That is a deal breaker. NO ONE is right 100% of the time.

Chas I too am looking forward to the
SC results.

Saw an interesting picture on the Drudge report this morning. It was of Hill and John Mc. Ck it out. We could make one Prez and the other VP. Cumbaya.

Pmama….excuse me for interjecting something here…but one drunk friend makes a statement, and you extend that to millions of people?

Is there something I missed here? I fail to see the connection between one drunk person’s ramblings and a significant segment of the population.

Taz I think pmom may only have one conservative friend so when he speaks he is 100% of the conservatives she knows.

Just because he was drunk doesnt mean he lost his ability to ramble on with the majority of those who share his thinking… In fact, the booze should have relaxed any of his inhibitions, and caused him to speak even more frankly on his opinions.. :-)

Chas only you would attempt to bring credibility to the rambling of a drunk.

Grm, do you, or do you not believe that alcohol loosens inhibitions?? That seems to be where you got hung up on what I said about the drunk…

Exactly as Chas says. he’s as hardline neocon as you can get. Taz, if he posted on this board, I’m rather sure you all would adore him. I think his inhibitions were lowered, and thus said what he really felt. And as shown, others are making the similar justification.

ksgrm posted January 26, 2008 at 11:57 am

“You putting down Hank for presenting an opposite view to your daily Algore worship is over the top. You have never met a person in the opposition you like or who has any credibility.”

Al Gore’s name is not even mentioned in this article.

‘The American Geophysical Union says massive reductions in greenhouse gases will be needed — and scientists should speak up about it’
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=geophysicists-urge-steep-cuts-in-greenhouse-gases

And my opinion of the people “in the opposition” is irrelevant — what’s important is the science.

ksgrm, why don’t you be honest with yourself, and admit that you attack Al Gore because you cannot refute what the climate scientists say?

(And Al Gore is only repeating what they say.)

BTW: Hank Price quit posting from Sen. Inhofe’s(R-Exxon) list.

Chas–I get so tired of you telling me to read things when you completely missed it. Pmom’s friend rambled on, and then she posted:

“So there you go. The republicans hound about fiscal responsibility, but the money to support a war is no big deal. we’ve got plenty to blow.
The debt is no big deal”

She CLAIMS policy, based on the drunken ramblings of one person. Who is this person? If not a delegate or chairman of the gop, then it is a totally fallacious claim to make.

Totally ludicrous line of “reasoning”.

As close as Bush II gets to a policy:

In the words of Vice President Dick Cheney, “Reagan taught us deficits don’t matter.”

It is easy to see why Republicans are trying to run from Bush II strategies.

A prediction:

Obama will beat Clinton by 20 percentage points in today’s S.C. primary. Not willing to wager on this, but definitely think it is possible.

Chas if you think that being drunk just loosens a persons inhibitions then I couldn’t introduce logic to you. It would go over your head.

Pmom have a sober conversation with your conservative friends and really listen to their logic. I hope they will really listen to yours. Somewhere between the two truth lies.

ksgrm posted January 26, 2008 at 12:40 pm

“It may all be factual. I really don’t know. I do know there are two sides to every argument.”

ksgrm, you stated earlier that you’re an economist, and not qualified on science matters?

Then what makes you qualified to proclaim that the scientific consensus re AGW is incorrect, and still open to debate?

And thanks for proving my point again, by attacking Al Gore, and ignoring my post about the new statement from the AGU.

Ben posted April 16, 2007 at 1:13 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/04/is_there_a_carb/#comment-253684

“Beck – that explains a lot. I have read his stuff – very bogus. Taking samples downwind from power plants etc.”

Zbigniew Jaworowski and Joel M. Kauffman rely on Beck’s “bogus” CO2 claims — and all three are on Hank Price’s “400″ list.

Re the “consensus” on AGW, see Ben’s post,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/why-do-people-s/#comment-197780

Cosmos it really isn’t fair that many on here have proclaimed their fields of expertise and you refuse to do so.

You once again missed the point of the post. Your argument has nothing new to offer. You have said it all. Further argument on your part just alerts readers to scroll over.

What exactly do you want us bloggers to do with your words of wisdom each day? I have indigestion now. Not because of what you write and paste but about the sheer volumn of it.

Who exactly are you? When you use professions against someone you should at least be honest enough to give us your qualifications.

In other words, one of the signs of mental instability is the inability to catch subtle forms of humor… IT WAS A JOKE!! PMom got it… she even said she got it!! Sorry about you others who didnt!!

Yeah Chas, that’s why every one gets tanked before they have to take an exam. You know, so they can have the same cognitive abilities as they did when they were sober. (cough)

Being drunk also impairs judgment. But in some cases, being drunk or not, doesn’t seem to make a difference. :cool:

Taz:
Then I’m changing mine to mrcontroversy I, editor/news anchor/voice talent/and if you believe anything on Drudge, the Sexiest Man Alive!

Regular says: “Being drunk also impairs judgment.”

Congratulations!! I said the same thing… just in a different way… I said that one effect of alcohol is a loosening of the inhibitions!!

This guy was drunk, and it allowed him the freedom to expound his lunatic ideas more freely than if he had been sober…

Regular – That means his judgment was IMPAIRED!!

Expound on his ideas Chas?

Then you better get a snoot full before your next sermon, so you can expound on your ideas. :)

cosmos is the used car salesman of Global Warming.

He’ll make you a deal after he examines your wallet.

Just heard…plane crash…Meridian and 104th…no further details..

Booze impairs judgment… more booze… more wild rambling… more idiotic junk… you know james — sort of like what you do on here!! LOL

“William Kristol’s opinion column in today’s Times hits the nail on the head. Mike HUCKABEE”

Having William Kristol endorse your candidacy is like having Benedict Arnold endorse your Colonial fortress blue prints. Or Trotsky liking your marketing plan, you are being backed by the wrong ideology and an indication you are on the wrong track!

Paul though not a perfect solution to the woes of the nation is a step in the right direction.
OMG Kristol like Huckabee, well everyone has to have some lunatic supporters. Paul has the founder of “storm front”, Huckabee has Kristol and Jesus Christ had Judas!

“cosmos is not a scientist. cosmos is not qualified to say who or who isn’t qualified to speak about climate change.”

Re: Regular

DNFTT

I decided long ago insults were the only way to address the right. If you show them a chart of office and budget management deficit figures going back to 1960, which disproves every thing they say, the next day, they will still tell the same old lies. They are unresponsive to anything but ideology. Anyone who changed his mind has already changed it, and to be fair, quite a few have. And also to be fair, the liberals or the left can be as ideologically hidebound as people on the right. Still, many of us who prefer ration and logic to back our statements and backing from the best sources we can find have been labeled “liberal” because we won’t swallow righty crap.

Here are some truths.

An eight-celled blastula is not a baby.
George Bush is either a liar, or incredibly stupid, or just don’t give a damn.
Republicans spend money on arms like drunken sailors whenever one of them is president.
Democrats are caught in a trap of trying to bring everyone into a coalition, even though the interests of those in it are opposed.
Most people don’t give a damn about the plight of homosexuals.
Most people don’t give a damn about race.
Most people are against illegal immigrants, but would hire them to mow their lawns.
Hate crimes are idiotic, but they are the compromise you make when you depend on a coalition of minorities.
White men are stupid and fat. Really fat, and really mean, and most vote Republican.
Black men are even fatter and stupider, but they vote Democratic, when they do vote.
Wal-mart is tricky.
Bill Gates is butt ugly.
Obamas wife would make a better president than Obama, but Mrs. Clinton will make a better President than Bill.
When the eggs start dropping the buttons start popping.
An Oakie eating French fries is a goober eating a tuber.
When a country allows itself to be harangued with ideological lies for decades, it is doomed.
When the Chinese take over, they will eat all of our cats.
Whiskey and coke is like sex with a rubber.
I don’t know how to spell “ideology.” The checker caught every variation.

“Wolfowitz to head US arms panel .

This Administration operates under the Peter Principle after a traumatic brain injury.

You are welcome, p_mom. At least Cheney/Bush has helped show what a demented bone-head Reagan was.

The myth that Reagan was a good president has nearly been put to a final rest, also.

ksagnostic,

I apologize for feeding the troll.

I was doing a little experiment, to see if it had the ability to recognize when it was making a fool of itself (Ben & E. G. Beck, etc) and change tactics.

Predictably, JimmyMac failed. Or else he doesn’t care how he appears?

ksgrm,

Do you believe that I am personally responsible for the Davos meeting? I had no connections to it. Go ask the people who did, why Switzerland.

But they are doing some carbon credit work,
http://www2.davosclimatealliance.org/projects/

And Davos does not change the consensus on AGW… which you avoid.

Well Lars Anee you please tell me why Al and friends had to fly in jumbo jets to Switzerland to have their meeting on GW when they could have used a conference call and achieved the same purpose.

Eat my shorts, ksgrm.

“Why a meeting in Switzerland at a ski resort? Is there more GW evidence there?”

Way to avoid the issue, ksgrm.

BTW, there is a lot of evidence of the effects of global warming in the Alps.

http://www.climatehotmap.org/euroruss.html

My point which of course was ignored by the GWers wasn’t why the meeting. Many businesses have meetings but if their business was to decrease their carbon footprints and everytime the public saw them they were jetting off to some distant point using enough carbon credits for several thousand individuals they would lose credibility. If I think something is hurting my my planet then I wouldn’t constantly do that action.

As far as ‘goracle’ goes. I have never called him that so watch the labels. I always call him Algore. He has put himself in the spotlight and made himself the spokesperson for the GW movement. If you want the spotlight you have to endure the heat.

JR–

With all due respect, I think you’re buying the reich-wing line on Obama.

Obama said he admired Reagan’s message of hope and optimism. In 1980, the RepubliCONs did seem to be the party of ideas.

What was Carter’s message? For that matter, what was KERRY’s message?

The Democratic party needs to be become the party of ideas if they want to American people to entrust them with their leadership.

Thank you ksagnostic for telling us how to think and what we can and cannot say.

In cosmos’ own words he has stated that computer climate models cannot accurately predict the climate. In cosmos’ own words he stated that the climate is far too complex to accurately predict.

Yet, with his own words, he admonishes others by using data outcomes from these computer climate models as accurate.

In the papers from the IPCC, they readily admit that there are hundreds of items they simply do not understand and therefore do not put into them computer climate models.

So tell me ksagnostic, what is so scientific about making predictions with computer climate models that exclude hundreds of unknown scientific fields?

Then there are those temperature averages and means. Everyone with a lick of common sense knows that the weather at the North Pole is nothing like the weather in Central Africa. Weather is reliant on location conditions such as wind paths, oscillations like El Nino, elevation, geological conditions and many other factors.

Yet, like average the telephone numbers of a phone book, the so-called peer-reviewed science expect us to believe that a mean averaged out over widely varying regions is supposed to mean something?

The Gorites jumped up and down when they had the hottest year in the late 1990s until they found it was mainly caused by the El Nino oscillation.

No one knows what the optimum climate temperature for the planet should be. Yet, here again, these so-called peer reviewed scientist pick a number and emphatically state that their imaginary optimum number has been surpassed and there is man-made climate change.

Bull feathers…if one doesn’t know what earth’s optimum temperature is supposed to be, how can they make a statement that the average mean has exceeded that optimum?

There has always been climate change and none of it was due to man. In Kansas there are remnants of underground caverns carved out by glaciers. You heard right – glaciers.

Kansas used to be under an ocean. Any kid that grew up in Kansas knows about the pebbles and rocks picked up in “gravel pit” drive ways often have evidence of ancient sea dwelling creatures.

There are many things totally incorrect about the man-made climate change science, yet the worshipers claim there isn’t.

Instead of making peer-reviewed science examinations of other scientists claims that their research is faulty, the alarmists will assasinate the character and work of scientists who go against the flow.

The IPCC idolaters offer no peer-reviewed science studies of opposing opinion, they bash them in the news media and ridicule them in Op Ed pieces.

Right now, there are climatologists that oppose the theories on man-made Global Warming. Yet, they are supressed, ridiculed and their careers threatens. These aren’t kooks, they are credible scientists with decades of peer-reviewed work on climate.

Then there is the “tricking” of data used to make conclusive reports by the IPCC. The scientists never write a conclusive statement in their reports that their research definitely causes Global Warming. They give estimates, numbers of predictability and even assumptions based on estimates.

The IPCC puts these on some sort of predictability chart and states that the conclusion of peer-reviewed scientists emphatically state this and that, when that is not was said or written at all. I’ve read a lot of the papers and emphatic is not a word often used by scientists.

Then there is the carbon credit trading scam. One of the biggest hoaxes ever to perpetuate the market place. I won’t get into that, I’ve posted several times why it is a hoax and who is getting rich from it and who is abusing the Ponzi schemes of Carbon Credit trading.

Haven’t eaten supper yet, so going to close it here.

Regular of the many nics is also Regular of the many diversions. Diversions are no doubt a part of life… The DANGER is when Diversions become a WAY of life…

That is what Regular of the many nics does; and what Cosmos of peer-reviewed literature, does not do!

Bring it on, Obama!! Speak on, brother man!!

Actually Chas, since you know my name, the claim of many nics is no longer true.

I only use one nic and that is regular.

You know who I am.

At least I don’t hide behind nics like you, CapnAmerica, cosmos and ksagnostic.

Something about not having convictions to own up to your real name to give you credibility.

cosmos is not credible because he hides behind an anonymous nickname. He has no courage to come out and defend his true self.

In agree………………..the troll-boy constantly posts under other nics

It is so crystal clear who you are McCluer.

right………………the troll-boy “says” he doesn’t post under any other nics.

………..like we are going to believe THAT!

Case Closed.

Once a troll, always a troll.

JR — I sense that the biggest error we can make at this point, is to attempt to draw comparisons to Obama, and ________??? Simply, because I have never seen another candidate LIKE him before… Initially, I thought the idea of a female US President was a good concept… But, I am not real sure we have the right Female running!! Yikes!!

I like the grass roots optimism of Edwards… But, something about his campaign bothers me… Obama is very REAL… He has the sense of committment to the NATION… as a whole…

Let’s not make the mistake of trying to compare him to previous Presidents, or candidates!!

Basically, lets just WATCH and see…

The Call on that is, he admitted it, and now we move on… the “old” blog is gone… long live the new one (I think) LOL

Well, JR.

I agree with your concerns, totally. I just don’t agree that Obama is going to cave to the right-wing.

You should read his speech, either tonight’s or in Iowa and maybe you’ll get an idea about why I and so many people are excited about this guy.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/CGxdg

Over two weeks ago, we saw the people of Iowa proclaim that our time for change has come. But there were those who doubted this country’s desire for something new – who said Iowa was a fluke not to be repeated again.

Well, tonight, the cynics who believed that what began in the snows of Iowa was just an illusion were told a different story by the good people of South Carolina.

After four great contests in every corner of this country, we have the most votes, the most delegates, and the most diverse coalition of Americans we’ve seen in a long, long time.

They are young and old; rich and poor. They are black and white; Latino and Asian. They are Democrats from Des Moines and Independents from Concord; Republicans from rural Nevada and young people across this country who’ve never had a reason to participate until now. And in nine days, nearly half the nation will have the chance to join us in saying that we are tired of business-as-usual in Washington, we are hungry for change, and we are ready to believe again.

. . . .

But there are real differences between the candidates. We are looking for more than just a change of party in the White House. We’re looking to fundamentally change the status quo in Washington – a status quo that extends beyond any particular party. And right now, that status quo is fighting back with everything it’s got; with the same old tactics that divide and distract us from solving the problems people face, whether those problems are health care they can’t afford or a mortgage they cannot pay.

So this will not be easy. Make no mistake about what we’re up against.

We are up against the belief that it’s ok for lobbyists to dominate our government – that they are just part of the system in Washington. But we know that the undue influence of lobbyists is part of the problem, and this election is our chance to say that we’re not going to let them stand in our way anymore.

We are up against the conventional thinking that says your ability to lead as President comes from longevity in Washington or proximity to the White House. But we know that real leadership is about candor, and judgment, and the ability to rally Americans from all walks of life around a common purpose – a higher purpose.

We are up against decades of bitter partisanship that cause politicians to demonize their opponents instead of coming together to make college affordable or energy cleaner; it’s the kind of partisanship where you’re not even allowed to say that a Republican had an idea – even if it’s one you never agreed with. That kind of politics is bad for our party, it’s bad for our country, and this is our chance to end it once and for all.

We are up against the idea that it’s acceptable to say anything and do anything to win an election. We know that this is exactly what’s wrong with our politics; this is why people don’t believe what their leaders say anymore; this is why they tune out. And this election is our chance to give the American people a reason to believe again.

And what we’ve seen in these last weeks is that we’re also up against forces that are not the fault of any one campaign, but feed the habits that prevent us from being who we want to be as a nation. It’s the politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon. A politics that tells us that we have to think, act, and even vote within the confines of the categories that supposedly define us. The assumption that young people are apathetic. The assumption that Republicans won’t cross over. The assumption that the wealthy care nothing for the poor, and that the poor don’t vote. The assumption that African-Americans can’t support the white candidate; whites can’t support the African-American candidate; blacks and Latinos can’t come together.

. . . .

The choice in this election is not between regions or religions or genders. It’s not about rich versus poor; young versus old; and it is not about black versus white.

It’s about the past versus the future.

It’s about whether we settle for the same divisions and distractions and drama that passes for politics today, or whether we reach for a politics of common sense, and innovation – a shared sacrifice and shared prosperity.

There are those who will continue to tell us we cannot do this. That we cannot have what we long for. That we are peddling false hopes.

But here’s what I know. I know that when people say we can’t overcome all the big money and influence in Washington, I think of the elderly woman who sent me a contribution the other day – an envelope that had a money order for $3.01 along with a verse of scripture tucked inside. So don’t tell us change isn’t possible.

When I hear the cynical talk that blacks and whites and Latinos can’t join together and work together, I’m reminded of the Latino brothers and sisters I organized with, and stood with, and fought with side by side for jobs and justice on the streets of Chicago. So don’t tell us change can’t happen.

When I hear that we’ll never overcome the racial divide in our politics, I think about that Republican woman who used to work for Strom Thurmond, who’s now devoted to educating inner-city children and who went out onto the streets of South Carolina and knocked on doors for this campaign. Don’t tell me we can’t change.

Yes we can change.

Yes we can heal this nation.

Yes we can seize our future.

And as we leave this state with a new wind at our backs, and take this journey across the country we love with the message we’ve carried from the plains of Iowa to the hills of New Hampshire; from the Nevada desert to the South Carolina coast; the same message we had when we were up and when we were down – that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope; and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we can’t, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people in three simple words:

Yes. We. Can.

Nobody is stupid enough to believe anything you write, JM, even on the slim chance it might be true.

Well, then, we shall see… And I suppose that means I wont have to look at any more stupid posts that try to link me to some other nic as well… Right?? Because I am frankly tired of being linked to a female poster… Even if it is one that I just happen to know personally.

That has been posted before… So, I will do my best to hold off on nic switching accusations… unless or until I see something that tells me otherwise…

I will, of course, expect the same from YOU!!

LOL CapN!! gotta love that one!!

I don’t know CapnAmerica – Brad, how is it coming along?

Frustrates you that you can’t know everything about people’s personal life, doesn’t it Brad?

“Obama’s overwhelming victory over Hillary Rodham Clinton came with 80 percent of South Carolina’s black voters backing him, but only a quarter of whites. Clinton and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards each got about a third of the white vote.”

————-

Obama’s gonna have to do better with the white vote to beat Mrs. Clinton. So Democrats vote along racial lines. No surprise there.

Mary, I only use part of my name… When you are a public figure, partial anonymity is not hiding… it is practically a necessity… I do hope you understand that…

BARACK OBAMA WINS SOUTH CAROLINA DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY

Holy Moly! Obama slaughtered Clinton 55 percent to 27 percent.

Edwards got 18 percent.

Does MAX hide behind a nic?? or Nathan?? or maybe KsGrm?? You dont seem concerned about THEM doing the same thing YOU are doing…

Hypocrisy, your name is……

JimmyMac posted January 26, 2008 at 8:22 pm

“cosmos is not credible because he hides behind an anonymous nickname. He has no courage to come out and defend his true self.”

Ben Huie posted April 16, 2007 at 1:13 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/04/is_there_a_carb/#comment-253684

“Beck – that explains a lot. I have read his stuff – very bogus. Taking samples downwind from power plants etc.”

You and your hearty band of Leftist Libs are constantly attacking me Chas, have posted my sister’s address and her email. I would say there is much hypocrisy in your response and in your ideological buddies.

Also much fear in that by not posting with their real names, they have no base line convictions in what they believe.

In other words, they and you are two-faced cowards.

“The leftist libs wouldn’t be as near as ballsy if they couldn’t hide behind a nic.”

Re: Regular

DNFTT

Especially since, with the long, developed post I fresponded to (regardless of the fact that I thought the arguments were very flawed), I know you can do much better.

Much better than the Price boys have done on the global warming issue so far, and they typically aren’t trollish.

Oooops! I gave you soup. Still, I’m feeling generous. You can be a fun opponent when you are not trollish.

Well Mary you think what you like.

“Regular” or James or whatever he is calling himself in the moment has threatened to shoot me.

I’ve also been accused of the most vile things by the Price’s

I’ll not be handing such folks my real name.

Well looky there Capn at who is happy Obama won in SC.

SEE why I can’t vote for Obama?

Regular writes:

“Also much fear in that by not posting with their real names, they have no base line convictions in what they believe.”

Guess you shouldnt talk about yourself, then??

Mary is being trolled by James is my bet.

Whatever, Chas…I doubt anyone would care enough to show up at your church. I would be surprised that anyone takes this blog so seriously.
I think many of you should just get over yourselves.

I have to side with Chas on this one, by a wide margin. He is a minister of a church in the area – should he use his full name, he, his family and his congregation would be subject to harassment and disruption.

I use my real name, by choice.

Others use nic names, like Regular, JM, Republikan, Kansas, TT, Republican, Eagle Beak, etc.

That is their choice, but they should not accuse others of being less than forthcoming for using a nic.

Hey JR, your girl just got her ass kicked by a 2 to 1 vote in South Carolina.

How’s it feel to support a loser JR?

Yep — looks like Mary has been trolled!! How unfortunate…. VERY sad…

Mary?

I’m glad you’ve never had any problems.

Did you read my post . . . because I have had problems.

I hope you’re not one of those people who only care about things when it happens to them personally.

You guys are stupid, no one is trolling Mary. Mary was even nice enough to send an email to my sister’s email.

Mary is the real deal, at least she stands up. You left libs hide behind your computer screens because you don’t have the courage to put your real names up, because you might get criticized in real life.

They call that cowardice.

ksgrm posted January 26, 2008 at 6:20 pm

“Many businesses have meetings but if their business was to decrease their carbon footprints and everytime the public saw them they were jetting off to some distant point using enough carbon credits for several thousand individuals they would lose credibility.”

Actually, the Davos meeting did decrease their carbon footpint. And they’re doing compensation projects — solar cookers, a 1.15 MW hydro plant rebuild, and sustainable rural energy.

http://www.davosclimatealliance.org

But don’t let those inconvenient facts get in the way of your rant…

“Why do you lump ME in with anybody who posted your sister’s information on the Blog?? I had nothing to do with that… Nor do I know who DID…”

Ditto, Chas.

Anyway..I’m glad Obama won, he seems to have more integrity than Hillbill.

Lies CapnAmerica aka Brad.

You were the very first one who posted my sister’s email on this blog.

As Mary stated, you used intimidation and real life threats by exposing personal information in order to increase your blog status.

You are a scumbag Brad.

I’m not going to respond to that, James.

You know the truth. I know the truth.

What you said ain’t the truth.

BTW, I for one am also getting sick of seeing every newcomer conservative poster being labeled as another identity of Regular. Yes, Regular has trolled, a lot. Yes, he has posted under multiple nics even if he isn’t now. But no way do I believe that Max is Regular, for example. Max is very consistent in the ideology he (she?) argues for, and it is distinct from the one that Regular argues for.

JR’s comments to the contrary the night before last were out of line. And I am sure that the comments under Mary’s name were Mary’s comments.

JimmyMac posted January 26, 2008 at 9:40 pm

“You left libs hide behind your computer screens because you don’t have the courage to put your real names up, because you might get criticized in real life.

They call that cowardice.”

So post using your real name as a nic, JimmyMac — and then report yourself for harassment every time you post.

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/01/open-thread-125/#comment-282307
“From this point on, anyone who keeps using my real name will be thusly reported as using it for harassment purposes only.“

Regular — I dont think anybody knows for sure WHO posted your sister’s information.. I for one said at the time that it was despicable…

Now, what more you want, I dont know… But IF that person is found, they should be reprimanded for their actions…

“BTW, I for one am also getting sick of seeing every newcomer conservative poster being labeled as another identity of Regular.”

Well you may blame “Regular” for that Ksag.

For the record I still say Max is another of his creations.

And your proof for your absurd claims is what??

I have never seen anybody admit to posting your sister’s name, etc. I already said it was a despicable thing… NOW, if YOU have problems with posting personal information, they WHY do you keep harrassing ME because I dont and wont?? Hmmmm??? Hypocrite!!!

Again blame James for any confusion here.

He has posted as his stated objective to make nics here interchangeable and irrelevant.

And I note “Mary” did not answer my question.

“along with my sister’s house address and her name”

Absolutely, unequivocally, catagorically, I never posted anyone’s house address or name regarding JM
Regular.

Lies again JR.

I said that a person can post under the nic they choose. That doesn’t including stealing nics.

Door King admitted to posted under several nics today and no one has said a thing to him have they?

Door King aka Ophelia Cagel and etc.

Chas, pssst.

DNFTT

Getting into charges and counter charges as to who is accusing who of posting under what is not only silly, when Regular IS trolling, arguing the point is giving it what it wants.

I tend to agree with you KsAgn…. But, I DO think your posts contribute much to this Blog nearly every time you post… Please dont hold back because of the Blog confusion… :-)

Well, I have preparations to make for tomorrow…

Good night; Good luck;
God bless, whatever you conceive
God to be!!

Blessings All!!

And Charmin, how many times did you accuse Chas of being Sugar or Tara, etc?

And you demand that people refer to you by your nic, but you called me Heebie, etc?

And you demand that other use their real names as a nic, yet you only posted under McCluer for a very short time, and now you use another nic.

You have used more nics than any known poster on the Blog, yet you damn others for using A NIC, nonetheless your multiple nics.

You want respect, but you give no respect.

Therefore, you are nothing but a hypocritical troll that is to be ignored.

Oh, and you have posted compliments to yourself on the Blog – “you are the leader of the conservatives on this forum.”

And you have copied and pasted articles, while adding your own text, trying to pass them off as legitimate.

You have accused me, because I defend gay rights, of being a homosexual.

You have used MY information to look up MY genealogy, in an unsuccessful attempt to discredit me, yet you complain that others use your personal information.

You have described me as a 400 pound grease eating chimp or couch potato, yet you have never even seen me.

You accuse other of ad hominim attacks, yet you consistently attack others without provocation.

What a joke……………………….

See ya’ Charmin!!!!!!

I’m still not good with links in this new format.

Please google “ASPCA”+”Arms of an Angel” and view the video.

Posted January 26, 2008 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

“I’ll tell you why Chas, is that you leftist libs use it to intimidate my sister by posting her name, email and address.

“I don’t care if you know my name. My name is James McCluer. Happy now?

“I’ve asked politely many times that you use my nic as I post here.

“The reason? Because you and your scumbag friends post information on this blog that should have never been post.

“Look at what’s above this text box.”

“Your e-mail address is never published or shared.

“Your scumbag friend, CapnAmerica aka Brad, did that and it was posted several times, along with my sister’s house address and her name.

“What kind of crap is that?

“These are your friends Chas, low life scumbags who think they did something by posting an innocent person’s personal information on the blog.

“Why they haven’t been banned I have no idea. They didn’t do it just once, they did it many times over an eight month period and Brownlee has the emails to prove it.

“They should be banned permanently.”

Sorry James,

You are completely out of your mind. Big surprise there!!!

This is the “mad” James’s post about me:

Posted December 21, 2007 at 6:10 am | Permalink
Isn’t this interesting:
Notice the poster at:
Sorry James,Won’t even bother to engage your flaming attempts at interaction. You poor pathetic soul [sic].
Posted by: Steven Davis | December 20, 2007 at 11:07 PMhttp://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/12/open-thread-122.html#comment-94408958
Then…
Chuckle, as the outlander would say.
Posted by: outlanders friend | December 20, 2007 at 11:53 PM
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/12/open-thread-122.html#comment-94411782
The post that ties Steven Davis to all three posts.
“But knowing blind partisans want to make it about Kline, if he is smart, he will appoint a well-respected, attorney or former judge, whose impartiality is beyond question.”
If Kline is smart? As outlander would say ‘chuckle’.
This whole deal with Morrison is very disappointing. I may swear off sending any support to future politicians as a result of this.
Posted by: Steven Davis | December 14, 2007 at 10:04 AM
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/12/will-the-prosec.html#comment-93532352
This Steven Davis is supposable a poster all of you Libs respect.
He doesn’t know the meaning of legal boundary when it comes to privacy.
I’m asking once again for WE Blog to examine the IP address of this poster Steven Davis.
If it is the same, I asked he be permanently banned.
I will be seeking to tie the rest of the Lib crew hit squad together with Weblogs I have saved from the past.
2. Kansas
Posted December 21, 2007 at 6:15 am | Permalink
Yeah Apophis funny.
You think it is funny don’t you?
That’s the way Libs think. Instead of keeping it on the blog and not worrying about who the poster is, the Libs who everyone think are so great, use blackmail and coercion to become blog bullies.
Of course, Brownlee won’t do anything, so I am doing something.
Oh yeah, Steven Davis, I have your blog website recorded and that nice pic of you standing in the trout stream.
I’m coming for you Steven Davis.
You want it personal? Let’s do it.

WSClark,

Another example is the way JimmyMac falsely attacks me whenever I criticze E.G. Beck’s nonscientific CO2 claims — but just politely side-stepped away when Ben called Beck’s claims “bogus”.

Upthread, and at old thread,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/04/is_there_a_carb/#comment-253684

Oh for crying out loud!

I am listening to Obama’s victory speech in South Carolina.

It is IDENTICAL to the speech Capn posted earlier.

Change and new ideas? Bunk! Obama is a panderer ACCEPTABLE to the enemies of America. They being the forces of greed and compromise to greed.

It is our nomination fight and Obama can only be vetted through that fight.

Therefore from this point on, I must vigorously oppose Obama.

Oh he talks a good fight. But when was he ever part in it?

“For instance, a couple of years ago, I wrote a letter to the Editor about an article I didn’t like. The Eagle requires that you provide your real name with a Letter to the Editor. Within days, I got junk mail with the name of the person I had attacked in my letter coming to my house, subscriptions to magazines I didn’t want, and Columbia House video club DVD’s in my mailbox.”

Actually, this did happen to me a few years back when I wrote a letter denouncing Kline’s unhealthy obession with teen sex. The next night, the CU-Next Tuesday word was keyed all over my car…I couldn’t justofy a paint job on such a POS so I sold it for parts, thought it was running quite well finally :(

However, I think things like this are rare enough to not worry so much, and that more crazies read the paper eagle than the online blogs.

But Mary, I can understand people not wanting to use their last names. For example, I don’t because I don’t want it to come up in a Google search if I apply for a job, (or am thinking of being asked out on a date, lol). It’s a remote risk that a differing political view than my prospective employer would affect my chances of getting an interview (or a hot date), but not one I’m willing to take. However, plenty of people here know my last name and I haven’t had anyone come across the ocean and try to strangle me :)

This is just the internet, folks, it’s not SERIOUS BUSINESS and it would be cool to see everyone just lighten up. I think everyone was nicer when there were regular WEBlog meetups.

Thank you, Mary, ksagnostic, Tara, and RD, particularly ksagnostic: I fully associate myself with his comments.

Can we get back to acting like grownups now? ;-) Pretty please??

Thanks in advance, folks!

Since I’m still conscious a quick thought about Obama.

The man is a canny politician. I don’t think he’s a Manchurian Republican anymore than he’s an undercover Muslim.

But. . .the man is a Rhorshach test. I like his idea of challenging assumptions. Let’s think anew, and examine things carefully. Especially him. We need to quit analyzing personalities and rhethoric, and start looking at what these candidates are really saying, and doing. . .and what they’ve said, and done, in the past.

I include myself in that admonition. While I haven’t been swayed by the tabloid TV coverage, I haven’t spent nearly enough time curled up with a good policy paper or two.

For my part, at present, I will continue to support Edwards, both in spite and because of OBama’s victory in SC. I do believe the man has an idealistic streak, but he’s not above using cyncical tactics to get his way (i.e. homophobic black preacher keeps the conservative black in his camp—and it did!).

Obama is a peacemaker, and a dealmaker. This should be underestimated. Being an effective community organizer is like herding cats. This question is: What does he take away from his deals? That’s the issue.

But Edwards is raising issues that desperately need to be addressed, if this Republic is going to remain one worth saving. It’s a better primary debate for his having been in it and–unfortunately–the economy may make his message all too relevant. :(

P.S. Honorable mention to Hillary–I’m not writing her off, either, if for no other reason than she drives Max nuts! :)

And you Rage, were amongst the worst in the past. So try and not act so innocent now.

Uhm, Right. Whatever. You really love that personal thing, don’t you? Were that you were the only one here who did.

Moving on, I found Obama’s comments in Christianity Today interesting. He seems at least to understand something that churches have yet to grasp: taking tax dollars for “faith-based” initiatives threatens the independence of churches from government, i.e., “he who pays the piper calls the tune.”

You can of course set up separate organizations (e.g. Catholic Charities), but it looks like in an Obama administration, the Bush practice of simply handing money to churches would end.

I say “looks like” because Obama, has, typically, finessed the issue, and left it up to us to fill in the blanks.

President Rhorschach, your limosine awaits. . .

Posting personal information on the internet for all to see isn’t the brightest thing. Too many crack-pots out there. If you choose to do that, it’s your problem.

When WE Blog first started, I posted under my real name and e-mail. That caused me grief. Tons of spam, responses from crazies, and a couple of threats.

If anybody wants to know who XXX is, just say so and we can make arraignments to meet face to face.