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“…routing Clinton by 28 points. Obama will get another boost with Democratic loyalists when Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., endorses him Monday. And then what will Obama do Tuesday? Hold a rally in El Dorado.”

OK. There must be some grand strategy here that I don’t see.

Obama is pending precious campaign time in El Dorado to convince Red Kansas to turn blue?

Is he out of his mind?

Nice objectivity newspaper guys. Clinton is ahead in Kansas and will be endorsed tomorrow by Sen. Bill Nelson from the nation’s 4th largest state. Guess that’s not news.

Down with the media.

Maybe it’s nothing more than every delegate is important.

There have been happenings these last seven years under bushco I wouldn’t have been able to fathom.

Many people see how badly change is needed. I certainly think Kansans are smart people and think smart people can easily tell there are no Republican candidates worth voting for.

Florida Senator to Endorse Clinton
By BETH FOUHY – 2 days ago

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Florida Sen. Bill Nelson plans to endorse Hillary Rodham Clinton, a major gain for the Democratic presidential candidate in a state that’s at odds with the national party over its primary date yet remains a swing state in November’s general election.

Nelson is slated to make the endorsement on Tuesday, the same day as the primary, according to senior Democrats close to Clinton who spoke on condition of anonymity because the formal announcement was scheduled later in the week.

Word of the endorsement came on the same day that Clinton called for delegates from Florida and Michigan to be seated at the Democratic National Convention. The national party punished Florida Democrats for scheduling their primary before Feb. 5 by stripping all 210 delegates to the convention.

Nelson and Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., had filed a lawsuit in federal court against the Democratic National Committee, but a federal judge ruled in favor of the DNC for stripping the state of delegates for the convention.

All the major Democratic candidates made pledges not to campaign in those states before their primaries.

Clinton could claim most of the Michigan delegates because she won that state’s primary after the other major candidates pulled their names from the ballot.

“I know other campaigns have tried to downplay the significance of these two states,” Clinton told reporters in South Carolina Friday. “I think that is not a good strategy for Democrats or any of us who cares about the outcome of this election.”

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Friday, “Now that Senator Clinton’s worried about losing the first Southern primary (in South Carolina Saturday), she’s using Florida for her own political gain by trying to assign meaning to a contest that awards zero delegates and where no campaigning has occurred.” Obama supporters in Florida had expected Nelson to endorse Clinton.

Nelson was elected to the Senate in 2000, the same year Clinton won her New York seat, and the two serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee. The moderate Democrat and former House member cruised to re-election in 2006, capturing 60 percent of the vote against Katherine Harris.

Nelson was a crew member of the Space Shuttle Columbia in 1986.

I agree PMom – the Democratic Party is very lucky to have well qualified candidates. I don’t favor Hillary Clinton as a first choice but she will get my vote if she is the nominee. There are NO candidates on the Republican ticket I could vote for.

“Regular” never fails us. His latest –

“Older, white women…

“Now there’s a demographic that’s oddly phrased and as about as congruent as a random sack of mixed nuts.”

(wonder what his sister will think of that remark?)

Obama’s Kansas visit seems like a fluke in the campaign schedule; he’s probaly en route to California and they’ve got a couple of hours to kill.

But Democrats and Republic Party advocates forget that Obama isn’t merely a “black candidate.” Yes, the South Carolina Democratic primary was about 50% African-American voters, and the Clintons’ race-baiting backfired. But a trip to a somewhat Spanish-sounding lily-white town in Kansas is gonna shift the conversation. (Provided he pronounces it “El Dor-AYE-Do,” not “Wel Do-RAH-Do.”)

When Obama was elected to the Senate from Illinois, no one thought he could carry the southern half of the state (at least until Alan Keyes became the Republic Party’s carpetbagger nominee). Fact is, the farmers and Cons in southern Illinois *loved* Obama early on.

I suspect this is a convenient strategic stop for Obama. If he screws up or doesn’t attract people in small-town Kansas… no big deal. If he wins some Super-Delegates and shows that even a small rural state can be in play with his candidacy, he’s golden.

Mama:
I am getting a completely different take. Of the 175 calls I’ve made to date, less than 10 percent of the voters I’ve talked to have made up their minds.

It is El Dor AHHH do. It a Spanish word…y’know?

As opposed to Colorado which is pronounced with the same “A” sound as is in rat.

El Dorado Kansas is pronounced like the “A” in Tornado.

Of course, then there are words like aficionado.

Can’t forget Greenwich = green witch

I lived in the town for 28 years, I’m over qualified to speak of the place.

I can’t stand these inbred pronunciations, never could.

Yeah, that exactly the reason.

I’m standing for Ron Paul, because there are still confused people everywhere…who aren’t.

It would be a perfect moment in Michelle Obama speaks first and calls it “El-do-RAH-do,” then catches herself; just like the “Ne-Vah-da”/”Ne-Vadd-a” moment a couple of weeks ago. And then if she went on and said something like, “That’s why we’re in El-Dor-RAY-do Kansas instead of Neh-VAY-da Missouri! Or is it Missour-uh?”

It’d be a little regional insider joke the mainstream media might not catch, but it would convey the Obama campaign’s theme that this is an election for all Americans.

I’ll take your $50 buck bet, “Kansas.” But I kinda think he’ll talk more about Kansas than El Dorado; I mean, their campaign will know full well that all the people in the crowd won’t be locals.

I’ll expect double the pay-off if Obama calls it “El-Dor-a-Doo.”

He’d be more accurate calling it SmellDorado.

Brain Alert!! He is going to El Dorado, because he has a Family Tie connection… Seems his mother’s father (Obama’s grandfather) is from there… His mother was born somewhere in Kansas, too!!

I think he can use that family connection…

Did he spend time there as a child and now he’s going back to relive some old memories?

How charming. How quaint.

Obama should get the Kansas vote. Another eigth years of Bill Clinton scare the daylights out of me.
Not because of his policies, but because I think it is wrong for America to be run by one family for such a long period. It was confusing enough the first time, when the first lady promoted healthcare reform. She was not elected and served no public office. And that is what scares me about Bill. He appears to be running again, promoting his record, as hers – and if he is this active during the election, what happens once in power?

We have plenty of fine democratic leaders. Anyone of them will be an improvement over Bush and all will bring a breath of fresh air to the white house.

Hillary brings old laundry, and will further divide the American people.

Obama reminds of JFK. Let’s give him a shot!

The cynicism in this thread makes me want to puke. Obama is running a positive campaign, trying to uplift people in this country. He’s trying to get people to come together and work together for change. Take your negativity somewhere else!

Barack is coming to El Dorado because his grandparents are originally from there, they owned a furniture store in downtown El Dorado when Obama’s mom was a little girl. Barack was raised partially by his grandparents and was very close to them. That is why he is coming to El Dorado.

Obama is the only candidate who has a campaign office in this state. He has received more campaign donations than any other Democrat from donors in this state. I, myself, sent him $25. He is the only Democrat to campaign in the state of Kansas since 1960! Him coming to El Dorado is historic!

Here is a link to a great series of articles from the Chicago Tribune on Obama’s life. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-obama-life-storygallery,0,1773480.storygallery
Be sure to read the story “Obama’s mom: Not just a girl from Kansas” to learn about the El Dorado connection.

I am caucusing for Obama next Tuesday.

“Closet Lib” shows his true colors with–

“Obama reminds of JFK. Let’s give him a shot!

I want to refer to all the Cons who think liberals are the hate-motiviated faction of contemporary politics.

Anyone who’s paid attention to “Closet Lib’s” posts to this forum knows s/he is a right wingnut.

And “Let’s give him a shot! tells us about the wingnut mind-set.

Maybe they’ll name the high school after him (in honor of his majestic and historical visit to The City of Gold).

And Sebelius goes there once a year for that “One-shot (she takes 3) Turkey Hunt” and it’s apparently not that big o’ news.

Cap’n, I already know who you are, Steve Rogers…duh.

Good thing he is coming on Kansas Day otherwise I’d think it was just a political ploy.

“Closet Lib” –

“Obama reminds of JFK. Let’s give him a shot!”
…is pretty clear in its implications.

“Obama is the only candidate who has a campaign office in this state”

not true, maybe you are speaking of an actual place, but we’re campaigning all over the state for Hillary. In every county, we’ve got volunteers. So whatever.

And Monkey, I also got that from his post. Give him a shot….yeah he didn mean ANYTHING by that.

Pleefer — What is the bee in your bonnet over Obama?? Gee!!

I meant it as it was intended – let’s give Obama a shot at the white house.

I never made the connection to the JFK death until after you did. That is sick. Very sick. And it does not matter WHAT party or affiliation or leaning one
has – that is NOT anything I ever want to experience
again!

In fact, I believe our nation changed from that date forward. It went further downhill with Bobby and MLK murders. Those who lived through that era, will never forget where we were – and our loss of “something” following.

Please believe – that was not my intent. Regardless of any disagreements.

Actually, the demographics of the state would dictate that neither Hillary nor Obama will stand a chance in this state. Somehow the left wing loonies seem to think that just because Sebelius got in while good citizens slept and did not exercise their right to vote that the whole state now wants granola and Birkenstocks. Payback is coming.

Yeah, “Closet Lib” –

You “…meant it as it was intended – let’s give Obama a shot at the white house.

You “…never made the connection to the JFK death until after you did.

Yeah, alright. Except when you posted at 9:15 pm: “Obama reminds of JFK. Let’s give him a shot!”

People can read the entire thread, but anyone will have to deal with “Obama reminds of JFK. Let’s give him a shot!” and figure it out for themselves. Let’s consider the exclamation point, for starters.

I just got my ticket to the Obama rally in El Dorado. It specifies certain security precautions. Those precautions didn’t come from the Obama campaign, they came from the Secret Service.

The Secret Service is afraid as hell that someone will approach Barrack Obama with a concealed handgun, for whatever reason.

So imagine yourself to be a non-political Secret Service agent and you come upon someone who says: “Obama reminds of JFK. Let’s give him a shot!”

Think that might not raise some eyebrows?

Like I said Monkey, it wasn’t my intend. I hope the secret service IS present and IS listening. We want them to listen to ALL America. Are you a Bushy man?

But regardless, there is security for ALL the candidates. Nothing special for Obama. They are all candidates and ALL need protection. I’ve been to rallies and speeches by many candidates – including our president today. Security was tight as it should be. You should expect metal detectors, explosive detectors, security dogs, and the like. Leave your dope in the car.

We never want another incident like Bobby Kennedy.
But why would you even THINK that Obama is any different from the other candidates?

Just curious.

I, Too am worried about him being so inspired by Reagan. I see him doing a lot of the same things Reagan did.

Good on you political mama.

I remain flabbergasted that so many on my side think the right can be worked with or respected in any way.

Let us remember what Reagan was.

Reagan was a former union leader and Democrat who sold out everything he believed in because Nancy wanted nice things.

Given his respect and laurels for Reagan, it is fair to speculate that Obama is similarly motivated. It is fair to speculate that Obama is just not honest enough to change his party affilliation.

I will continue to oppose Obama and actively until he proves otherwise.

JR is using that support for Reagan excuse to oppose Obama.

We all know why you oppose Obama JR.

J R is using Obama’s comment about Reagan as an excuse to oppose Obama.

We all know why J R opposed Obama.

Regan was a transformational president, you could argue it was good or bad depending on which side of the fence you sit on.

Defending your own racism JR by attacking the accuser.

That’s Clinton’s way of defending herself too.

Defending your own racism JR by attacking the accuser.

That’s Clinton’s way of defending herself too.

Ya need to find a better xcuse JR.

J R is gonna save the world!

Is that before or after you buy health insurance for your child?

Ms Ewing (I mean, Regular/Republikahn/JM/ad nauseam) please go to bed…

The juvenile is a racist and relgious bigot.
That is the primary reason that the juvenile will not support Obama.
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Chas, Bob Dole is from Russell Kansas, he was the Republican nominee in 1996. Remember? Ya, Ike won, and Dole did not, but Dole was BORN here.
Obama, I believe, was BORN in Hawaii whild Ike was BORN in Texas:

“Chas.
Posted January 27, 2008 at 10:01 pm | Permalink
I think its pretty neat that Obama has a Kansas connection… We havent had a Presidential person with the Kansas connection since IKE!!

I remember going to the Dedication of the Eisenhauer Museum in Abilene when I was a kid… What CROWDS!!!
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“I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left ME” Ronald Reagan.

There was a time when the Democrat Party was pro-defense, pro American and supported law and order.

Yes, the Democrats have tried to move back to the center, but when Ronald Reagan said those words, a great many Democrats, of the time, agreed with him.

WhiteElephant:

Why would that monicker suggest anything racist? Inquiring minds would like to know???

Ooooh we ARE in some despicable company here late at night.

Paulthecon has come to aid his pal James McCluer.

And it may all get deleted and I hope it does.

But I’ll get the fight.

Um Paul?

Why when you post do you refer to “Black areas” and “Black men” and “White women”?

An unconscious need to marginalize?

I won’t support Obama because he wants to work with people like you paulie.

People who work with you get stabbed in the back don’t they Paul F Rosell?

Like when you sold out your union?

Yup ya better watch out “Ms Ewing” James McCluer.

I see ya when you are sleeping and I know when you are awake.

Next lightning bolt is for your pal paul.

“I won’t support Obama because he wants to work with people like you paulie.”

Ha like Obama can’t survive without your support JR?

You can’t even support your self and your kid, how you going to be able to send money to support Clinton or anyone else?

I can see Obama now, practically in tears because JR won’t support him.

Juvenile

Attacking candidates, over personal matters is one thing, especially when those personal matters are public, or where public policy is involved, or where legal action is involved..

However, your “opposition research” into other posters here, just makes clear what a hateful jerk you are.

You LIKE the Clinton “war room” — you LIKE dirty politics. You LIKE personal attacks for no reason other than to intimidate or destroy.

(Kind of like Hillary hitting Obama over Rezko, a man his law firm ordered him to represent. Hillary, on the other hand, VOLUNTARILY met for a photo op with Rezko. Hillary the hypocrit. You LIKE that kind of behavior, huh?)

Grow up. No poster, on this Blog, deserves to be attacked for anything other than what is posted, on this Blog, by that poster.

No candidate, not even the devious, hateful Clintons, would EVER allow you to run their campaign. In fact, no Democrat in the state, who knows of your postings, on this Blog, would ever want your picture in their brochure, or to be seen with you, in public.

You have no class.

Obama does.

I disagree with Obama, but I would trust the man with my car or my kids. I also trust Obama to tell the truth.

I actually think Obama would be hard for the Republicans to defeat.

I want Hillary to win, because Hillary’’s hateful, scorched Earth approach is much like YOURS. Hillary will turn off the voters.

Hillary, also, has no class.

Damn I’d like to give Obama the CHANCE to convince me he does not want to work with creeps like you Paulie.

And here you are endorsing him?

I think Ron Paul should run as John Edwards running mate, that would be an awesome presidency, and I think enough people would go for that.

I know how to fight you and yours paulie.

And the best you have as a second is a washed up, no life, no wife, kid taken away, welfare recipient in James McCluer and his many nics.

In fact if the two ran together, they would win in a landslide, they both combined together represent more of peoples views than all the other top candidates combined. They would be unstoppable unless Barack and Hilary ran together.

Prediction.

JR will blog 24/7 cause he doesn’t have a job.

Damn I hope this all gets deleted.

Or not.

Damn James I have been posting as “J R” for near onto three years now.

And just TODAY you get the idea to do the Dallas thing?

My you are slow. And not terribly bright.

Now barring any reappearance of your pal (alter nic?) econ, after this, I am off to bed.

Now James this leaves you free to be Miss Ellie, or Bobby, or any other fictional character you choose to attack my nic with.

Have fun!

Kook.

Juvenile
It is NOT your Blog.

“Even a broken clock is right twice a day” as they say.

This Blog is for the free exchange of ideas. This Blog is not a grade school play ground. You do not get to tell us who we can and can not agree with. We can change our alliances, at will, as it should be, on each issue.

Tell us your ideas, and you might get some respect. I mean, other than the fact that you want to blow up Mexicans with land mines, on the border, abolish the state of Israel, and make bigoted attacks on Mitt Romney’s religion.

Grow up, for Heavens sake. Quit kicking so much sand, when you don’t get your way.

And, also, try being honest. You never were prolife and you never supported Ronald Reagan. You make that stuff up because you think the “convert” ploy will be more persuasive. It is not working. Nobody believes you. Nobody who voted for Reagan would have this much hatred towards a man who simply said the truth, that Reagan was a “transformational figure”.

I fear Obama, because I think he MIGHT be such a person, himself.

Clinton was not. Carter was not. Obama MIGHT be.

Obama has studied what makes a President “great” — changing hearts and minds is what he believes is important. He admires Reagan for how he did it, he does not like Reagans policies, only his style. I think I get it. Why can’t you get it?

In your own words, you claimed that you used to shout “baby killer” when you protested, at the Clinics. (Before you changed your mind on the issue?) BULL! Not to say that doesn’t happen, sometimes, but the overwhelming majority of prolifers that I know would have asked you to be quiet or leave, if you behaved so poorly. I was out there many, many times, at Tillers. Rarely did anybody yell “baby killer” and when it happened, they were promptly scolded, by other protesters, and told that they were not helping the cause.

You also claim, as proof of your former “support” for Reagan, that you wrote “Fritz and Tits call it quits” on a WSU blackboard, after Reagan beat Mondale-Ferarro. (This, too, before you “switched sides”?)

Well, If you are telling the truth, GLAD YOU LEFT US! You do far more harm than good, to any cause that is unfortunate enough to have your support.

You have no class.

I see the Clark joins in on the bashing. I wasn’t even online when Ewing or whatever posted. The blog paranoids need to give it a rest.

And it would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO unlike McCharmin to troll, nic switch, nic steal or anything else REMOTELY dishonest.

Yeah, and Bush is a truly GREAT president.

Yeah, right.

For the record, for more than a year now, I use either Econ101 or econ101.
Nothing else.
Ever.
Not even once.

Paranoid grandiosity is at work here. The juvenile MUST be right, since he BELIEVES so strongly that he is right. Other posters MUST all be the same person, because the Juvenile has nearly unanimous support, dont you know?

As a Republican, I fear Obama. But it would be fun to watch the Juvnenile implode, should Obama actually pull it off.

The man is an obvious racist. Any Republican who would advocate all the other radical views the Juvenile has spoken, here, would have been branded a racist long ago.

The Juvenile is a racist Democrat.

The kind of person Billary is counting on!

Hi Paulie.

I said I’d wait for you.

Just like clockwork, when you think I am not around to respond, you attack.

The first half of your post is a whine.

Now I’ve often reduced you to that.

AND most of the rest is a lie.

Yep Paulie I did vote for Reagan in 1984. The story I have told and you have re-posted is true.

In the English 101 classroom of Professor Diane Wahto, I did indeed brag stupidly and write on the blackboard, “Fritz and tits call it quits”.

I’ve grown since then. Mostly because of exposure to folks like you.

The “summer of mercy” Yes I was there too. I didn’t want to get arrested like you did. I even remember you. I could probably recognize you even today.

I remember you and the kids in the street.

I KEPT my principles Paul. I fight for them here and in life everyday.

What is it you fight for?

I mean aside from trying to get someone who wants to work with you elected on the side I left you and yours for?

Ben Huie Posted April 16, 2007 at 1:13 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/04/is_there_a_carb/#comment-253684

“Beck – that explains a lot. I have read his stuff – very bogus. Taking samples downwind from power plants etc.”

I’ll kick back here and watch both sides play the race card. Typical.

You people don’t want change, that’s obvious, what you do want, is “your side” to win. That’s it. Pretty friggin useless.

For the record, for more than a year now, I use either Econ101 or econ101.
Nothing else.

You can’t control what your clones use, I suppose.

Guide to Kansas pronunciations:

Washington = warshington

Arkansas = are kansas

El Dorado = el do ray do

soda = pop

AND

Lunch= Dinner
Dinner= Supper

boobs.