No jingle singing; just straight talk

brownbackKansas Sen. Sam Brownback has a bit part in a campaign ad for John McCain, promising that McCain “will appoint strict constructionists to the United States Supreme Court.” Strangely, the cameo endorsements (seemingly) include one by rival Mike Huckabee, who calls McCain a “genuine conservative.”

33 Comments

  1. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    How can Brownback promise that? Is he a McCain symbiote?

    Vote out ALL incumbents.

  2. JWink
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 6:47 am | Permalink

    Regardless of Brownback’s support, I am coming around to supporting McCain.

  3. Writerdog
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    I have to give Brownback some credit, during the debate over the new FICA law Brownback was the only one on the Republican side that used a logical and reasonable argument for the new law.

  4. econ101
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    Well, McCain is an American hero.
    However, McCain is NOT a conservative.

    Neither is Huckabee, btw.

  5. lindainks55
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    All “Conservative” means to many people today is being against abortion and same-sex marriage. The entire leadership of our state’s Republican Party is now taken over by those who think only of the hot-button social issues. Conservative used to have something to do with fiscal responsibility and government keeping their nose out, but that doesn’t appear to be true today.

  6. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    Damned right linda.

  7. econ101
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Linda
    If that was all “conservative” meant, then why arent Huckabee and McCain doing better? Huck and McCain are both anti-abortion. Huck just doesnt understand Federalism and McCain tried to shut us all up, with McCain Feingold. But, neither of them supports gay marriage and both have prolife voting records. You have made a statement that does not stand up, under the evidence. “Conservative” still means something more than just social issues.

    Better queston, why will the Democrat nominee try to get the label: “conservative Democrat” or “moderate Democrat”?

    Why do most Democrat candidates avoid the “liberal” label?
    ——
    By the way, McCain is a horrible flip-flopper:

    http://redstate.com/blogs/gop84/2008/jan/23/mccain_the_flip_flopper

  8. lindainks55
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Paul,

    All I have is my opinion. I’m not an expert on anything! I do have have one vote and will use it.

    I didn’t claim ALL Conservatives are only thinking of the hot-button social issues. I do see many who appear to be. And bushco certainly didn’t keep his eye on the economy or his fingers out of my business! He and his Republican Congress spent like drunken sailors and grew government BIGGER than anyone before him.

    I don’t even know that Huckabee and McCain aren’t doing well. Seems to be a toss up at this point among the candidates.

    One reason I don’t like Huckabee — I think any tiny move towards a theocracy is bad for the United States of America. Huckabee’s economic liberalism is way too liberal for me. I am very much a fiscal conservative.

    McCain lost me when he gave in to torture and the Patriot Act passed with his blessing. There was a time I supported him and even through his taking the smear job bushco did on him in 2000 I admired him for staying above the fray, further when he supported bushco all too often I gave him respect for his respect. McCain’s support for this never-ending useless war may not win him favor with voters; it certainly doesn’t win him favor with me! That picture we all have seen where bush is kissing McCain on the top of his head really does say everything about McCain for me!

    And I won’t pretend anything but disdain for all things bushco. I never have and never will. Not that I plan to get into a pissing contest with you. Been there, done that. I’ve stated my opinions and answered your questions.

    I don’t see a single candidate with an “R” beside their name who can hold a candle to every candidate with a “D” alongside their names.

    Oh, and I love the word “liberal” and proudly claim to be one! I beam with pride when someone calls me a liberal.

    My opinions. I think everyone has a few of those, don’t they?

  9. rs
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    McCain is so pro AMNESTY that he is unelectable.

  10. Ben
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    linda – please apologize to drunken sailors.

    ;)

  11. Max
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    McCain is Pro-Amnesty and he voted against the Bush tax cuts.

    And McCain’s Campaign Finance reform bill attacks the 1st Amendment.

    He hasn’t consistently supported the 2nd Amendment either:

    2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Gun Owners of America 100 percent in 2006.

    2005 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Gun Owners of America 0 percent in 2005.

    2004 Based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionnaire sent to all Congressional candidates in 2004, the National Rifle Association assigned Senator McCain a grade of C+ (with grades ranging from a high of A+ to a low of F).

    http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=53270&type=category&category=37&go.x=15&go.y=12

    He’s a war hero, no doubt. But that wasn’t enough for Kerry to win either.

    McCains Record in Congress for the last 26 years is somewhat important dontcha think?

  12. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Just in case you care about our country.
    Mc Cain gives some straight talk, more wars to come, my friends

  13. mrcontroversy
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    JWink:
    Friends don’t let friends vote for McCain.
    The man has more faces than a courthouse clock.
    He says one thing–and does another.
    Look hard at his campaign finance report. He says he wants campaign finance reform… then look at all the cable industry contributions.
    Remeber the Keating Five?
    There are simply no good choices for my Republican friends… but you shouldn’t settle for the evil of the two lessers.

  14. econ101
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Linda
    I think you are an honest poster here. I meant no personal slight.

    However, conservatism does mean more than just being prolife. McCain will not win, due to his bad behaviour, towards conservatives.

    By the way: I think it is a complete myth that Bush ever “smeared” McCain.

    McCain was aaked to produce a witness, to the so called “push polling” when he ran against Bush.

    McCain could not produce a witness, only hearsay.

    Bush released ALL of his telephone scripts, to the press, and challenged McCain to do the same.

    McCain never did.

  15. Ben
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    PaulTheCon – so you are claiming that the McCain camp made up the push-polling? Interesting … maybe he captured himself in N VietNam too!

  16. Joe
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    McCain is proud of saving US millions of dollars when he led the fight against the New Boeing Tanker. This flushed out a crooked AF buyer and a complicit Boeing manager.
    It also flushed a thousand Jobs or so in Wichita and even more in Seattle. We still have our antique tankers whose replacement will now cost much more than it would have then and may be an Airbus.

  17. econ101
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Joe
    I must agree with you on the Boeing Tanker deal.
    McCain could have played “public servant” on that one, backing off after he “won” and had made his point on the issue.
    However, McCain was a political opportunist, on the Tanker issue, pushing his personal agenda and ignoring the good workers at Boeing, who played no part in any dishonesty.

  18. econ101
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Ann Coulter is right about McCain:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/

    And, yes, I think McCain made up the entire “push polling” complaint against Bush. McCain NEVER backed up his charges with any proof.

    McCain recently invented another issue, McCain lied and said that Romney supported a public “time table” for withdrawing troops from Iraq.

    This is a lie. In that same statement, made by Romney says he would “VETO ANY TIMETABLE” —

    McCain lied.

    McCain is a war hero.

    McCain is also a liar.

    I do wish he had not dishonored himself like that.

  19. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

  20. MonkeyHawk
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    “Ben” offers –

    “…maybe [McCain] captured himself in N VietNam too!

    You’re too late. There were push-polls in South Carolina that transplanted the “Obama is a Manchurian Candidate” lie towards McCain, claiming that McCain was so indoctrinated by the commies in the Hanoi Hilton that all it will take is the “Queen of Hearts” to sell us all out.

    It was engineered in 2000 by Karl Rove.

    For all the well-deserved criticism Bill Clinton’s getting for his anti-Obama rhetoric, he’s a piker compared to what Republic Party apparatchiks are capable of.

  21. econ101
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer
    Very funny.
    What, exactly, makes Coulter a Nazi?

    I think she is a little rough, at times, but she is right on the money when it comes ot McCain.

    I think the Democrats are the ones in the middle of a “race war” right now, not us Republicans.

  22. Ben
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer – that picture is OBVIOUSLY retouched. With her anorexia there is no way she has … uh … such an endowment.

  23. Ben
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Just a what-if:

    What happens if Giuliani pulls off an upset tomorrow?

  24. Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Pleefer, I just looked at your poster of Ann “the Man” Coulter and puked up my lunch.

    Now I need a new keyboard AND a new lunch.

    Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh……………..

  25. The Phantom
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Ben. We’ll hear him cussing and screaming, because I’m sure he’ll be upset!

  26. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    I hardly think Coulter is right about anything, but I concede that she is about McCain. She is the epitome of what gives Republicans a bad name. Coulter is just as if not more shrill than the Clintoness. She is outspoken to the point of hate-filled and is a main reason that I abandoned the Party as it stands now. Along with Hannity and his little minion…sheeooot, whatshisname?…”ya big dope” guy. They represent everything I am not. I even give Limbaugh a break, but Coulter and Hannity, those people have to be paid by the White House. There is no other explanation as to why they parrot and find nothing wrong with Bushco. When folks are that robotic…man, that’s scary, mindless stuff. Reminds me of this:

  27. MonkeyHawk
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    “Ben,” obviously on acid, asks –

    “What happens if 9iu11iani pulls off an upset tomorrow?”

    I suspect that’s a sign that we all go up to the hills and wait for Jesus to return.

  28. Pleefer
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    If he “pulls an upset” there is obviously no need for anyone to cast a “vote” anywhere else ’cause it’d be apparent that he is the chosen one.

  29. econ101
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    I note that WS “eats lunch” at 5:30:

    “WSClark
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 5:31 pm | Permalink
    Thanks, Pleefer, I just looked at your poster of Ann “the Man” Coulter and puked up my lunch.
    —-
    Oh well.
    —-
    Pleefer,
    Coulter FREQUENTLY bashes George W. Bush. She has been very outspoken against W., on several issues.

    Hannity, for his part, was vocally upset with W. over immigration and over McCain Feingold.

  30. J R
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    The pic above while clever, graces Coulter with breasts that she does not have.

  31. ksagnostic
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    “Ann Coulter is right about McCain:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/

    “And, yes, I think McCain made up the entire “push polling” complaint against Bush. McCain NEVER backed up his charges with any proof.”

    Jesus Christ.

    If there is any question as to whether “Econ 101″ should be taken seriously, here’s your answer right there.

    The push polling in South Carolina was effective. The idea that McCain did the push polling is extremely absurd.

    Paul, the Bushes are known within the Republican party as dirty campaigners. When Dole said to papa Bush, “stop lying about my record”, he was serious. Papa Bush had the late Lee Atwater, and Bush Lite had karl Rove. This sort of thing is very much consistent with the candidates Rove has run.

    And guess what, someone does not have to be a “coalition” across the board economic and religous conservative to be conservative.

  32. econ101
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Ben
    I do think McCain is a war hero.
    I have met a few in my life.
    Very few deserve to be President.

    This is what you and your friends will attack McCain with, if he is nominated:

    http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/presidential_briefing/?p=161

    The man can be a bit of a hot head.

  33. ken
    Posted January 28, 2008 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    All “Conservative” means to many people today is being against abortion and same-sex marriage. The entire leadership of our state’s Republican Party is now taken over by those who think only of the hot-button social issues.

    Linda that has been and continues to be the smoke xcreen republicans like to hide behind