None of the leading GOP presidential candidates has demogogued the immigration issue more than Mitt Romney. But that isn’t stopping him from appealing to Spanish-speaking voters. Romney is running a Spanish-language television ad in Florida, narrated by one of his sons.
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It’s smart Public Relations not to expose one’s fleshy parts when campaigning. It will eventually have to come out, but a nice video for those Hispanic Americans too busy to listen to TV news reports.
In poll after poll this issue has shown up to be of little to no importance. Even the Republicans do not think it is important and it often shows up 9 or 10th on the list of what is important to voters. If they thought it was all the big of an issue, John McCain would not be leading the pack because he is liberal on this issue. I have stated all along that this issue is only important to a very small amount of people who make a very big bunch of noise over it. But like the abortion issue, most Americans don’t care anything about it. Hopefully once this election ends, we can get immigration refom including amnesty passed.
Americans don’t really “care” too much about anything. People can see the writing on the wall. They can be watching America die in front of them (hell, most folks would walk over a dying man in the street) but if it interrupts the stupid game they get pissed off. Give them bread and circuses and they won’t even know they’re being raped. We Americans are the dumbest of animals (but at least we’ve so far, been well fed).
It’s utterly amazing that so-called immigration militants such as Mittens and Rudy don’t mention the issue at all in their *SPANISH LANGUAGE” commericals running in Florida.
After a decade of English-as-Offical-Language talk-radio fodder, the corporate Republic Party candidates are painted into a corner. Big Business thrives on illegal workers and any talk of punishing employers of illegal workers threatens the Republic Party coalition.
“None of the leading GOP presidential candidates has demogogued the immigration issue more than Mitt Romney. But that isn’t stopping him from appealing to Spanish-speaking voters. Romney is running a Spanish-language television ad in Florida, narrated by one of his sons.”
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And Phillip, this is noteworthy because…?
Having the courage to address the illegal immigration problem does not make one the enemy of Spanish speaking citizens.
Anyone still supporting Romney needs to have their lobotomy completed. Hate to see you still running around with half a brain.
Can you NOT see that he will pander to any and every niche he can find? Tell them exactly what they want to hear? Do any Mittens supporters actually think he will come through on all these ridicules claims he is making?
He promised Michigan he “would not sleep” until our recession is over. He promised to “bring back every single auto-industry job back to Michigan.” That would be a pretty neat trick.
But these brainless dolts up here took it a gospel. Please tell me that Kansas is at least a LITTLE bit smarter than that. Please tell me you can see this a$$ for the fraud that he is.
Spanish speaking immigrants are not supporters of ILLEGAL ALEINS for the most part.
Below is a link to a web site, “You don’t speak for me”
http://dontspeakforme.org/
This group has joined the huge group of silent Americans that OPPOSE illegal ALEINS. Supporters of ILLEGAL ALEINS are fast becoming the most treacherous attack group in our country. To suggest that they have to follow our laws make us racists, bigots etc., and now is rising to threats of violence as well.
Unfortunately, many businesses are thriving with the lower cost of ILLEGAL ALEIN labor. Their huge donations and ads for Presidential and US Senate/US Representatives candidates has the appearance that the majority of Americans don’t care. Nothing is further from the truth.
Well over 70% of Americans want our borders secured and current immigration laws enforced. To believe otherwise is just putting your head in the sand.
Below is a statement taken from the above link:
Statement of Principles
March, 2007
You Don’t Speak for Me! American Hispanics, Loyal to Our Nation and Proud of Our Hispanic Heritage
As You Don’t Speak for Me! approaches the first anniversary of its formation, and as the pro-illegal alien advocacy network prepares, once again, for demonstrations aimed at equating their agenda with the American Hispanic agenda, Retired Colonel Al Rodriguez, chairman of YDSFM, issued the following statement on behalf of the organization:
“Since the formation of YDSFM, nearly one year ago, our organization has provided an effective counterpoint to a coalition of pro-illegal alien advocacy groups that have purported to speak on behalf of Americans of Hispanic ancestry. We are proud that since YDSFM was founded we have received support and encouragement from thousands of American Hispanics – those who were born in this country and those who immigrated legally – and from Americans of all walks of life.
“We affirm our status as citizens of the United States and, in our civic lives, we are first and foremost Americans. We embrace the principles of our nation and the rule of law which are set forth in our constitution, and reject all attempts to divide this nation along ethnic, racial, or religious lines.
“Like all other Americans, we are also proud of ancestral heritages. In our private lives we cherish many of the customs and traditions that we and our ancestors brought to this country. Just as we reject efforts by the illegal alien advocacy network to use our common heritage to advance their own political agenda, so too do we reject attempts by the radical fringe that seeks to limit and enforce immigration in furtherance of their own distasteful views on racial identity. They do not speak for us and we do not speak for them.
“You Don’t Speak for Me! supports an immigration policy that requires everyone to respect the laws of this nation; that protects the legitimate interests of the American people; that embraces newcomers of all backgrounds who obey our laws, contribute to the common good, and endeavor to become a part of the fabric of American society. We believe these views are shared by the vast majority of Americans of Hispanic heritage. Any organization or individual who does not espouse these core values does not speak for us.
If you look at history, just as far back as our civil war, countries who manufacture thier own goods prevail.
We need to get back to building for America. Regardless of cost, manufacturing vs importing is well worth the short term cost for our long term security. It’s too bad that businesses of all type have that 2-3 year window of focus. We as consumers must make them reverse the trend if we are to survive.
Study politics.
Intensity counts far more than simple majority opinion.
Therefore, yes, illegal immigration is important.
McCain and Huckabee CHANGED their views, on this issue, remember? Why aren’t they called “flip floppers” or “opportunists”?
I challenge you to show me any issue that remained “#1″ in voters minds, for any length of time in our history.
I would echo the statement, upthread, that opposition to “illegal” immigration is not the same thing as opposition to Hispanics. It is dishonest to claim otherwise.
By the way: I do not think the Democrat nominee will run very many TV ads, in Michigan, complaining about “greenhouse gasses” and “global warming” during the general election contest.
By the way: I do not think the Democrat nominee will run very many TV ads, in Michigan, complaining about “greenhouse gasses” and “global warming” during the general election contest.
You got THAT right. I also expect NOT to see them blatantly lying and telling Michiganders that they can single handedly wave a wand and get all the manufacturing jobs back
To quote you, that would be dishonest would it not?
Bill Clinton came into office claiming that George H.W. Bush gave us “The Worst Economy in 50 years”
That, my friends, was a lie. There is no measure of economic history that can back that up. In fact, the minor recession, at the end of George H.W. Bush’s term, was very comparable to the minor recession under Bill Clinton, which George W. Bush inherited.
The Democrats have always lied about the economy.
Bill Clinton also promised a “middle class tax cut” and then, well, he fudged, remember?
“Econ 101″ –
You need to read this. It addresses some issues beyond, ya know, Econ 101.
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/74262?page=entire
Maybe Willard should do an infomercial about his not well known Mormon faith?
Instead of talking out of both sides of his mouth about illegal immigration?
Juvenile
What, exactly, have ANY of the Democrat candidates done, or said, concering illegal immigration?
Of course, none of them want to put land mines on the border, to blow up Mexicans, as YOU have proposed.
However, I believe that all of them, pretty much, support some form of amnesty or open borders.
You seem to think that illegal immigration is one of the most important issues we have.
Who, on the Democrat side, is even talking about that issue?
Hillary did not even want to tell us where she stood on drivers licenses for illegal aliens.
By the way, I think that you told us, recently, that the “Dubai Ports” deal, was also high on your list of concerns, about Bush. You constantly go off about the border and the ports. Did you know that Bill Clinton made $20 Million off of Dubai investments?:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120097424021905843.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Juvenile,
Try this test:
State an issue that you care about, and tell us, if you haven’t already, where you stand on that issue.
Then, the rest of the Blog can show you, in short order, how your candidates, Edwards or Clinton, have gone against your wishes.
Shill?
Worry about your own issues and candidates.
Another one of them just self destructed.
Buhbye Fred Thompson.
Are you afraid of information about Romney’s…unusual faith getting out paulie?
Why? You jump like a stuck pig any time I ask about it.
Is there something you’d rather folks not know?
JR, don’t you and Mitt Romney pretty much see eye to eye on illegal immigration?
Well, except for Mitt hasn’t called for land mines on the Mexican border.
The Juvenile makes religous attacks on Romney all the time.
The Juvenile is a Democrat, but he can not make an argument against anyone, based on issues.
It is all personal with him.
That or religion.
That or race.
He won’t support Obama, why?
He attacks Romney’s religion. Why?
Show him that his candidates don’t agree with him, and he does not care.
He hates Republicans. Issues are simply ammunition, that he uses, to shoot at Republicans.
If the ammunition turns out to be a “dud” — he just looks for MORE ammunition.
I won’t support Obama because he wants to make nice with folks like you paulie.
Where? Where have I ever made a religious attack on Romney?
I HAVE posted FACTUAL information as to his not well known faith.
How is asking questions or posting factual information an attack?
Why are you so defensive?
Heh
Talk about a dud?
Look at the hits to this thread before I posted.
NOBODY wants to talk about ol’ plastic Willard!
Somebody who DOES want to talk about him is quickly told to shut up.
I leave this dud of a thread to the one and only supporter of corporate raider Romney.
Floors yours paulie.
Interest me enough maybe I’ll come back and mop it with ya.
The only “mopping” that the juvenile is qualified to do is with a real mop —
But he would rather Blog and make us pay for his needs.
Florida is probably the only state Republicans have any chance of getting Hispanic votes (and only because of Cuba) after all the demagoguery on this issue. Even there, look for Democrats to make big gains in that demographic. This insane hostility to immigrants, driven by talk radio and nativists, will make a generation of Democratic voters. It was all so unnecessary.
Nobody has proposed amnesty. Paying a substantial fine is not amnesty. I got caught speeding, and paid a fine. It hit me in the pocketbook, but I was allowed to continue driving anyway. The fact that I was allowed to continue driving, even though I did so illegally once, does not mean that I received an amnesty. If people who crossed the border illegally long ago, but have worked hard and kept their noses clean ever since, are offered the chance to regularize their status by paying a significant fine (quite a bit more than my speeding ticket in any proposals I’ve seen), this is not amnesty. This is punishment for a crime. We need comprehensive reform.
I saw Mitt Romney’s commercial online. There are plenty of Republican Cuban voters in Florida, all of whom are in the country legally by the way. The fact that somebody who comes here and learns English still prefers to watch TV or listen to radio in their native language is not surprising. If you ever learned another language, you would probably still enjoy English language radio and TV. If a candidate wants to reach those voters, there isn’t really much else to do but advertise in the media they watch and listen to.
Romneys son speaks excellent Spanish:
http://www.mittromney.com/Espanol/index
Hoo boy!
This thread is on FIRE!
Not.
What a yawner. Just like the candidate it is devoted to.
Illegal immigration is USUALLY a pretty hot topic. But you hook ol’ plastic Willard to anything and it dies a slow, cold death.
A seminar on socks is more inspiring than Romney.
Still, he could continue to try and BUY the office. He has the bucks?
Nope. MOST Americans are not for sale. I guess he could go the hostile takeover route. He has that down.
Ooops. No foot soldiers. Well not any worth anything anyway.
“Econ101
Posted January 22, 2008 at 9:26 pm | Permalink
Romneys son speaks excellent Spanish:”
Yeah. Probably so he can detail just how he wants the hedges done.
Illegal immigrants toiled for governor
Guatemalans say firm hired them
December 1, 2006
This story was reported by Jonathan Saltzman and Maria Cramer of the Globe staff and by Globe correspondent Connie Paige and was written by Saltzman.
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SUCHITEPEQUEZ, Guatemala — Outside his aqua-colored concrete house here, Rene Alvarez Rosales paused under an almond tree to answer questions about a subject with which he has surprising familiarity: Governor Mitt Romney’s Belmont lawn.
For about eight years, Rosales said, he worked on and off landscaping the grounds at Romney’s home, occasionally getting a “buenos dias” from Romney or a drink of water from his wife, Ann.
“She is very nice,” said Rosales, 49.
About 6 miles away in Copado, a 37-year-old man who recently returned to Guatemala from the United States told a similar story, describing long days tending Romney’s 2 1/2-acre grounds.
“They wanted that house to look really nice,” said the worker, who asked to remain anonymous. “It took a long time.”
As Governor Mitt Romney explores a presidential bid, he has grown outspoken in his criticism of illegal immigration. But, for a decade, the governor has used a landscaping company that relies heavily on workers like these, illegal Guatemalan immigrants, to maintain the grounds surrounding his pink Colonial house on Marsh Street in Belmont.
The Globe recently interviewed four current and former employees of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, the tiny Chelsea-based company that provides upkeep of Romney’s property. All but one said they were in the United States illegally.
The employees told the Globe that company owner Ricardo Saenz never asked them to provide documents showing their immigration status and knew they were illegal immigrants.
“He never asked for papers,” said Rosales, who said he had paid smugglers about $5,000 to take him across the US-Mexican border and settled in Chelsea.
The workers said they were paid in cash at $9 to $10 an hour and sometimes worked 11-hour days.
Romney never inquired about their status, they said.
In addition to maintaining the governor’s property, they also tended to the lawn at the house owned by Romney’s son, Taggart, less than a mile away on the same winding street.
Asked by a reporter yesterday about his use of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, Romney, who was hosting the Republican Governors Association conference in Miami, said, “Aw, geez,” and walked away.
Florida is one thing because of the Cubans there.
Think ol’ Willard has the cajones to run such an ad for Super Tuesday?
Hillary and Obama both spoke to La Raza.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-hillary-pander-to-racist-la-raza
La Raza and the Juvenile have nothing in common, on the immigration issue.
Again, why does the most militant anti-immigrant blogger support Hillary?
We are facing a labor shortage. We need immigration, but it should be LEGAL.
And
Romneys employees say, to a person, that the Romneys are VERY nice people. (See the post, above, by the Juvenile.)
You will be hard pressed to find a comment, from an employee of Hillary, praising Hillary.
Nobody calls Hillary “nice”.
Rossell, why don’t you address the Republic candidates for a change.
Democrats will select our own candidate for the presidency without any help from you, thank you so much.
So, what does your boy Mitt (What Grown Man Answers to Mitt) Romney have going for him?
And Rudy the Ghoul – what is his plan other than to torture and give tax breaks, (presumably to two different groups, but you never know with him?)
Huh?
What about your bozos, er, candidates for a change?
Hey WS?
When your first name is WILLARD?
As in the same name as the king of the rats in the 70’s movie?
“Mitt” is good to default to.
I mean ya don’t need issues with your name when you are already of a really different and not well understood faith…
Countdown to paulthecon in
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What RS said at 9:59 a.m. & 10:14 a.m. No sense in my being repetitive.
Here is Hillary, TRYING to speak Spanish:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-si-se-p.html
If the Democrats nominated Democrat Harry Reid, another Mormon, the Juvenile would be all for him.
He has already defended Harry Reid, several times, on this Blog.
The Juvenile would support a Druid or an Aztec, as long as that candidate had a “D” by his or her name.
I have defended Harry Reid ONLY that he kept the Senate in session to deny the “emergency appointments” of george bush.
I am not one of Senator Reids constituents. And it is not up to me to judge him outside how he acts in his role in the Senate.
JR,
If it is not up to you to judge Reid on how he acts outside the Senate, then why is Romney any different?
Has he done something during his public service which calls you to question his faith constantly?
And for heavens sake, go to the public library and check out a book on the Mormon faith and read it.
There must be hundreds of them which talk about their faith from every perspective.
It is not a mystery.
Then why do right wingers here get so antsy when I post facts and ask questions Nathan?
The GOP fronts Huckabee, who has said that he would work to alter the Constitution to accommodate his faith.
The same GOP gives us Romney. And although it could be argued that Romney and his money are on their own agenda, Romney IS a Republican. Should we not better understand Romney’s faith? Since the GOP is ok with writing religion into law?
JR,
The question was:
Where has Romney, in his public career, done something which would lead you to question his faith?
Well Nathan,
As I have said, it is your party that finds itself ok with writing religion into law. And you yourself are on record here supporting the same.
I only say that if Willard Romney is the GOP party candidate of writing religion into law, it is probably a good idea we better understand religion.
I mean Willard has said that there can be no freedom without religion. So it is only sensible to ask as TO that religion.
JR,
With your understanding of how faith and politics work, religion has already been written into law because Christianity thinks murder is wrong and it is against the law to murder, so by goodness, that is my religion written into Law!
JR,
Did you see Hilary say the other day that we have God given rights?
Why are you not questioning her faith on exactly what God she believes in and what those rights are and how she is going to implement them in her Presidency?
It is absolutely absurd how you look at this stuff sometimes.
Romney does know who the President of Germany is.
Hint to McCain: It is NOT Putin:
http://www.wjno.com/pages/spotlight.html?feed=244038&article=3180167
Nathan
Did we not just celebrate MLK day?
Did we not see Hillary and Obama and their various surrogates visiting as many Black churches as they could squeeze into their schedules?
Funny how the “religious right” is somehow a bad thing —
And liberals act like the “religious left” doesnt even exist!
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Obama says he was never a Moslem, yet he certainly had Moslem family members. In fact, the punishment for leaving the Moslem faith is death.
I bring this up now, because, if Obama was “born” into the Moslem faith, but “converted” to Christianity later, Obama might be a higher assasination risk than most Presidents.
This would be an instance where, perhaps, bringing up faith might be important.
However, if you start asking a Catholic if he or she really believes in the Eucharist as divine, or a Pentacostal or Evangelical if they really believe the Lord speaks to them, or asked a Baptist who really wrote, edited and published the first Bible — well THOSE are theological questions that have no place in political debate or discourse.
Respectful curiosity is welcomed by the true believers of every faith, in my experience.
Derision and bigotry are easy to spot. Such things have no place in a political debate.
“Derision and bigotry are easy to spot. Such things have no place in a political debate.”
Not surprising you would be bringing it up to debate here —- need a little bigger mirror?
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