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SWIFT BOATS!!!!!

Sympathy vote?

Why?

bush TRASHED McCain. Then good boy John went right on being a good little bushbot. I think he’s bats.

My mom has a friend who was in a restaruant with McCain. She says he was really nasty and abusive to the wait staff and other customers.

Oh, I think we know which is the party of dirty tricks. And it’s amusing to watch the Republic Party turn on its own.

The 2000 South Carolina primary saw Shrub and Rove at their worst, accusing McCain of siring a black baby with a photo of the child, whom the McCains adopted in Bengladesh.

Someone — obviously not a Mormon — send Christmas cards to South Carolina Republic Party voters with a quote from a 19th Century Mormon which extolled the blessings of multiple marriages. Just a guess here, but I doubt if Mitt Romney sent it. Huckabee’s people are currently push-polling in South Carolina.

The people who are accusing McCain of being a traitor are well known and certifiable nuts. (It’s surprising they’re not among regular right wingnuts who participate in this forum. Lord knows we have more than our share of people who shout “traitor” every time someone disagrees with the policies of George WMD Bush, the Republic Party, or the soup du jour of “conservative principles.”)

I disagree with McCain most of the time, but at least he’s not a stealth-religious fanatic like the Huckster or a pandering to anybody liar like Mittens.

McCain seems to have actually *read* Barry Goldwater’s “The Conscience of a Conservative.” Most of today’s so-called “conservatives” simply have no conscience.

. . .but then, how much does Roberts or Brownback have in common with Bob Dole?

“My mom has a friend who was in a restaruant with McCain. She says he was really nasty and abusive to the wait staff and other customers.”

Chuckle…. Now if JR’s says that his mom said that her friend says she saw John McCain in a restaurant raising hell and abusing the wait staff and the other customers, how could you doubt it?

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth NEVER lied about John Kerry. You can not point to a single thing the Swift Boat Veterans said that was not true.

Also, what hurt Kerry was not what he did, in Vietnam, it is what he did, when Kerry came home.

It also hurt Kerry that he was not honest about his anti-war activity, when he came home.
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By the way, I am no Ross Perot fan, but Ross had come out hard against McCain, too. There is some talk that this is because McCain did not fight hard enough to make the Communists account for all the MIA/POW Vietnam Vets.

I must admit that I do not understand McCains actions on the POW/MIA issues, but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on those things.

Many Vietnam Vets are not willing to let McCain off the hook, and he has been slow to explain himself, in their eyes.
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Having said all of this, McCain is not going to win the nomination because McCain Supported:

McCain Feingold
(an attack on the First Amendment)
McCain Kennedy
(an amnesty bill)

This man has been in politics for so long he has no idea how to repond or even interact with the general public. he knows nothing about what the working class or what they need to better their lives, this is why I still think there should be a term limit for the House and Senate.

You didn’t watch the debates last time, eh, outlander?

Okay, fine, speak from ignorance.

Meanwhile, some more MISSION ACCOMPLISHED for the Repukes to crow about:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/24966.html

The illegals will be going home soon. They won’t like it here when the Bush depression hits.

You know, I was never for using an insulting word for Democrats, despite the unprovoked insults the left offers (like “Repukes”). Primarily because there are too many Democrats that I respect and don’t want to insult.

But the more I see of it, the more difficult it becomes to ignore the hate and obvious lack of thought and intellect that goes into the insulting posts.

GMC70’s earlier post was right. It’s a lib thing.

It’s hard to understand.

Ben
I am also mad at McCain on “global warming”

— so this is not off topic?

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nf/57832

Perhaps good news on the battery front, and something we can all agree on?

outlander,

I guess “Godless liberal baby killers” sounds to you like a description rather than an insult.

Please. I’ve been hearing for the last thirty years that, as a liberal, I “hate America,” and one hears the same thing here, every day, all day long. For that matter, when Winguts here talk about the “Democrat” Congress, it’s the same right wing pettiness.

If Democrats say nothing, they’re wusses. If they respond in kind, they’re full of “hate.” Yet another version of the “heads I win, tails you lose” game that Republicans have perfected.

Give it a rest, outlander.

More GOP dirty tricks:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/24972.html

“ROCK HILL, S.C. — Teresa Clanton was home doing chores when her phone rang.

An automated voice rattled off names of Republican presidential candidates as if conducting a poll. When Clanton indicated that she supported Fred Thompson, the voice asked if she knew that the former Tennessee senator supports abortion, gay marriage and illegal immigration.”

When gangsters are more honorable than politicians, you know the country is in trouble. The only way to get the rats out of Washington is to consistantly vote against the dirtiest in every race. It may take a few elections, but they’ll eventually get the message.

I’ll take you up on your offer Ben.

Unflattering nicknames for politicians are common on both sides. You will always see that.

Insulting everyone in an entire political party is not.

McCain is the most two-faced politician I’ve ever encountered.
He claims to want special interest money out of politics, but then you look at his FEC reports, and he is pwned by the cable industry, especially Cox.

Oh, hell, I left out some of the convicted felons–

G. Gordon Liddy, Lewis “Scoot Outta Jail” Libby, Lt. Col. Oliver North, Rear Admiral John Poindexter, Chuck Colson

Not even close, eCON.

But thanks for playing and don’t forget to pick up your consolation prize on the way out.

Fact check.org has their own credibility problems.

Part of the claim against Kerry, is that Kerry DID “doctor up” his military records, in many ways. Therefore, reference to “military records” is a VERY weak argument, in Kerry’s defense, wouldnt you say?

FACT: Kerry never spent a day in the hospital for his wounds.

FACT: Kerry never released all of his military records to the public.

FACT: Kerry DID have the Jimmy Carter Administration ALTER his records, probably even to the point of upgrading a dishonorable or less than honorable discharge. Kerry served under Richard Nixon. Ford was President when Saigon fell to the Communists. Carter should have had NOTHING to do with Kerry’s discharge, yet the Navy Secretary, William Claytor, did alter Kerrys records:

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/19872.html

“So what is it that we still don’t know about Kerry’s military service? We know that he left the Navy in 1971 or 1972, but that he didn’t receive an honorable discharge until February 1978, six years after his enlistment was completed and thirteen months after Jimmy Carter signed EO 4483, granting amnesty to all Vietnam era draft dodgers and war resisters, and upgrading discharges of all those who had previously received less-than-honorable discharges – the same EO4483 that resulted in Bill Clinton receiving a presidential pardon for ignoring an order to report for active duty in July 1969.

The question remains, what kind of discharge did Kerry receive when he left the Navy in 1971 or 1972?

The cover letter transmitting his February 1978 discharge papers, signed by Carter’s Navy Secretary, W. Graham Claytor, indicates that the honorable discharge was granted at the “direction of the president,” and upon “the approved recommendations of a board of officers convened… to examine the official records of officers of the Naval Reserve on inactive duty…”

So why was it necessary for a “board of officers” to evaluate Kerry’s fitness for an honorable discharge – six years after his commitment was completed? According to an October 13, 2004 story in the New York Sun, by Thomas Lipscomb, the sections of the U.S. Code covering such evaluations refer to “the grounds for involuntary separation” from military service (emphasis added).”
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Now, ksagnostic, more to the point:

What Kerry did or did not do, in Vietnam, did not sway too many voters, IMHO. After all, nobody questions the fact that Benedict Arnold and Timothy McVeigh served, honorably, until they became traitors to the country.

When Kerry returned, he trashed ALL of his fellow Veterans. Kerry worked with Hanoi Jane Fonda, and Kerry brought forward “witnesses” to bash the United States, who had NEVER been to Vietnam in their entire life!

Kerry has NO credibility when he asks others to be honest.

KERRY never released his military records to the public.

KERRY lied about other Veterans.

KERRY hid his anti war activity from the public.

KERRY hid his dishonorable discharge from the public.

Jeez, Paul, I thought this thread was about McCain – apparently you just can’t get over your Kerry fixation………………….

What up with that?

Did John Kerry steal a girlfriend from you once upon a time, Paul?

Ah,and the Republicans are squeaky clean Boy Scouts with only the best interest of the country at heart.

Now I get it, Paul, thanks for clearing that up for me.

Of course, the thread is about Republican dirty tricks addressed to Republicans, but no matter, it’s all the Democrat’s fault, right?

According to you, Paul, this would be a perfect world if all the Democrats were to just up and die.

By the way, Paul, are you running for office any time soon?

Don’t worry – I won’t Atwater you………….