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Objectively I can look at this the same way it was seen about Dr, Paul accepting the five hundred dollars donation from a White Supremacy group “ this is money they can no longer use to farther they hateful message”. I have to admit on a moral level it seems wrong, these same people used their message against Mc Cain when he was running against G.W in the GOP primary. Its like saying she is only whorish if she is not in bed with me! Every bit Amoral and shows not a shred of integrity for oneself, your party or the office you are running for. Politics is the art of compromise that is true, but should not there be some stances not compromised?

WE are all whores, when you go to work on those days you would rather stay home.
When you do something that you know is the wrong course, but the boss told you to do it.
It is true that everyone has their price, but we agree to accept that wage for the better good.
But does Mc Cain really so need the $61, 650 that he can not refuse this money on the principle of this group is so amoral that they attack his character and that of another Navy officer?

Its all politics right, just a “smoke and mirrors” world that does not mean anything. The art of compromise, under Superman’s outfit he too gets stains in his underwear. In reality there are no heroes, no one that can be pointed to as truly being looked to as being a role model. In the end we are all whores and to his credit at least he was not the two-dollar variety of T.J. fame. We dilute ourselves that somehow we are voting for someone with a little higher idea then the others. Otherwise why not just put a blindfold on, spin your finger in the air and slam it down. Whom ever name the finger lands on is the leader of this country.
It would not be reasonable to expect someone else of having more a moral outrage then we expect from ourselves. But somehow one would hope that the higher someone goes that they would at least have the same moral outrage.

That is because McCain is a scoundrel. He can take all the money he wants but he will never ever be the President of the United States of America. Never. And I used to respect this man for his rebel streak and his “straight talk” as well as his service as a POW. But when he turned on his principles and went to Pat Robertson begging, that lost it for me. Now he is with a bunch of Republicans that dare to call other veterans “unpatriotic” just because they do not see eye to eye politically. McCain can stand around and talk and even bawl about his years as a POW all he wants and I am not discounting what he went through a bit BUT McCain can still walk and still sire children. Other veterans who were trashed by this right wing front group such as Max Cleland cannot walk and cannot sire children. And for McCain to sign on with this bunch is a new low mark for him.

McCain would take the pennies off a dead man’s eyes at this point for funding.

I’m with you Kev, I USED to respect the guy his independence. But then he became a bushbot and proved he isn’t a “maverick”, just a nut.

Apparently, McCain’s beef is now with Swifboaters, but with being Swiftboated!

Maybe he stuffed the money is his cheeks!

AL-QAIDA’S AMERICAN SEEKS BUSH ATTACKS

CAIRO, Egypt – Al-Qaida’s American spokesman called on the terror network’s fighters to greet President Bush with “bombs and booby-trapped vehicles” when he visits the Middle East later this week, according to a video posted Sunday.
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What an idiot. This guy, Adam Gadahn, being an American, has certain rights protected by the US constitution. Including the right to a lead enema, one hopefully served up soon (he’s been charged with a capital offense, treason).

In case you’re of the “you’re with Augustus Stupidus or you’re a traitor” mentality, take note. This is what real treason looks like.

Thank you Pedant, and you are correct. But I suspect there are wacko leftists here who would secretly support that miserable traitor, so…

Doug, I believe the guy was a cartoon satirist, IIRC.

There goes McCain, once again trying to sleep his way to the middle–and failing.

Perry, Pickens, and the other Swift Boat Nazis are once again throwing their millions around. What lying scum they are. And what a pathetic suck-up McCain is for taking their filthy money.

Econ101,

Oh. “Decorated war heroes” like Bob Perry and T. Boone Pickens? Neither of whom EVER spent a moment in the military?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_J._Perry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_boone_pickens

Or even, for that matter, John O’Neill, who appears to have overstated and inflated his time in the Navy?

“Some of O’Neill’s claims about his length of service in Vietnam conflict with the records of his service there. For example, on several occasions he claimed to have served in Vietnam “almost three years” [7][8][9], although his records, as described above, indicate that he actually served no more than about 15 months there. Additionally, he claimed to have served “much” of a two year period “in waters adjacent to Vietnam” [10] , to have served in Coastal Division 11 for one year [11][12], and to have served 18 months “in the same place” Kerry served [13]; none of these timelines match the above records. And although he wrote that he “took over [Kerry's boat] after he requested early departure,” [14] the records indicate that he took command of PCF 94 more than five months after Kerry left Vietnam (see above).”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O%27Neill_%28Vietnam_veteran%29

Everything they said about Kerry was a lie. Everything. No surprise, Econ101, to see a liar like you perpetuating their lies.

“Texas Oil Nazis” is EXACTLY what these lying shills deserve to be called. Although maybe “lying Texas Oil Nazi Pigs” would better convey my feelings with regard to them.

And let us remember, in attacking Kerry, they also attacked those who served with and backed up Kerry.

All because of politics and money. They served their country in a good way once. Too bad they decided to sabotage it later in life. They are to blame more than any one or any other group for giving the failure george bush another 4 years. For that alone they should be reviled.

Christmas in Cambodia?

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Christmas

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200408101318.asp

John Kerry is a liar:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/08/10/do1002.xml

I am SURE they get your ringing endorsement paulthecon.

Well for what that is worth.

It’s not like they need any more negative notoriety.

I don’t see any of the candidates objecting to money.

Now some, like Senatory Clinton, get $850,000 from convicted felons like Norman Hsu (just went to jail again!). Hsu also gave to Obama and Edwards!

Oh well, where the money comes from doesn’t matter!
(Unless you are a Liberal Rag Newspaper writing a STORY about a Republican)

CF2K
Your link is weak.
Your links arguments have been rebutted countless times.

The opening point of your link, above, is something like this “attacking John Kerry, a decorated Veteran, attacks ALL Veterans”

Go back and look, CF, that is, basically the opening defenses of John Kerry.

How Hypocritical!

It was John Kerry that teamed up with Hanoi Jane Fonda and went around the country making up stories about Vietnam. It was John Kerry that lied and said he went to Cambodia one Christmas. It was John Kerry who, on his “Summer Soldiers” anti-war propaganda tour, presented a “veteran” as a witness to “war crimes” who had NEVER been in Vietnam!

Kerry is a fraud. Kerry slandered and libeled every Vietnam Veteran.

Kerry, and his supporters, have NO business demanding the benefit of any doubt, for him, when Kerry lied about himself, his missions, his fellow Veterans, and his anti-war past repeatedly.

By the way, John Kerry was most probably discharged under less than honorable conditions, to begin with.

The Navy Secretary, under Jimmy Carter, signed off on some of his documents.

That could not have happened for a Veteran who served under LBJ (Before Nixon, before Carter).

John Kerry took a movie camera to Vietnam, because he thought it would help his political career.
John Kerry then joined the anti-war movement, while still obligated to the Naval Reserve. (Nobody knows where he met his Reserve Duty, since John Kerry will not release his records.)
John Kerry even meets with the enemy, prior to his orginal discharge.
For this, John Kerry was, probably, Dishonorably Discharged.
Then, John Kerry takes advantage of the Jimmy Carter Amnesty Program, to upgrade his discharge.
Then John Kerry runs for President?

Ok, if Kerry had told the truth about his anti-war past, that would be one thing. But Kerry tried to make himself out as a “war hero” not as a “hero against the war.”

Veterans resented his dishonesty.

Do you think I am making this up?

Why did Kerry decide not to run again, for President?

Why has Kerry still refused to release ALL of his military records, including his Naval Reserve records, to the PUBLIC?

http://www.useless-knowledge.com/articles/apr/oct493.html

And this is the document that the Carter Naval Secretary signed off on, long after Kerry should have been discharged:

http://www.erickerickson.org/archives/002684.html

“The document is a form cover letter in the name of the Carter administration’s secretary of the Navy, W. Graham Claytor. It describes Mr. Kerry’s discharge as being subsequent to the review of “a board of officers.” This in it self is unusual. There is nothing about an ordinary honorable discharge action in the Navy that requires a review by a board of officers.
According to the secretary of the Navy’s document, the “authority of reference” this board was using in considering Mr. Kerry’s record was “Title 10, U.S. Code Section 1162 and 1163. “This section refers to the grounds for involuntary separation from the service. What was being reviewed, then, was Mr. Kerry’s involuntary separation from the service. And it couldn’t have been an honorable discharge, or there would have been no point in any review at all. The review was likely held to improve Mr. Kerry’s status of discharge from a less than honorable discharge to an honorable discharge.”
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John Kerry lied, repeatedly.

John Kerry can fault no one for telling the TRUTH about John Kerry.

And, many of the Veterans who have made claims, against John Kerry, are also decorated combat veterans.

Again CF, your link clearly makes the claim that those who attack John Kerry’s honesty are attacking the Navy and all Veterans.

No, not exactly.

It is John Kerry who attacked all Vietnam Veterans.

It is also John Kerry who, in a weird, arrogant way, demanded that the Veterans he verbally spat upon fall in formation behind his campaign.

Perhaps the most fitting cut of all is the fact that “Swiftboating” is now a commonly accepted pejorative.