If you think U.S. journalists are lackeys

In an effort to cement the allegiances of China’s future journalists and quell any notions of investigative reporting, the Chinese government has started requiring “Marxist journalism” classes for Chinese journalism students. Textbooks advise: “We need to use the Marxist position, the Marxist point of view and the Marxist method to observe and deal with things.”
Posted by Kristin Mehler

71 Comments

  1. Marxismdeadnot
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    Marxism is dead, NOT. They can teach their american slaves how to run the media.

  2. Doug
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 2:42 am | Permalink

    Doesn’t the Bejing Daily have the slogan, “We report, you decide?” Or is it the Shanghai Times which has the slogan, “Fair and balanced.”? I can never remember.

  3. Writerdog
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 6:18 am | Permalink

    In these days of a demand for political change, journalism is also in the cross hairs. Journalism has always had the power to control the events within a country. They can cause a revolt, shore-up a dictatorship and cause a change in public opinion. That is why I am offended by the decision of ABC and Fox to exclude Candidates from debates and forums. That is not informing the voters it is controlling the voters, making the decision for them as to who is a vetted candidate and who is a losing candidate. Before any American press organization points fingers at the Chinese press for lacking in investigational reporting, it is a classic example of what has been revealed since the invasion of Iraq. As to how the media i.e. journalism had failed to report the facts and the truth to the American people. The news organizations own reporters on the ground and in the areas of concern would hear what was being said back in the United States and scratch they heads. But they reports would be ignored in favor of what was coming out of Washington. Whether journalism be came lazy, owned or just forgot the duty and trust that was their granted by the populous.
    Investigation has become a dead issue within the Untied States, when LBJ watched Walter Cronkite report on how badly the effort in Vietnam was really going. It is said he remarked “ there goes Mr. and Mrs. America in this!”. Such was the trust in our news organizations at the time, now who can be trusted for the truth?

  4. Regular
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    Lot of tabloid journalism now and it has crept into the newspapers.

    Two decades ago I could care less about a Newspaper Editor wrote in an opinion piece. Now days, it appears that newspapers promote their opinions first and facts second.

    I’m undecided if that is a good thing to have occurred.

  5. Writerdog
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    IN Kansas, Washington D.C. might as well be on the moon. That is why honest and truthful journalism has such importances. We depend on it to keep us informed on issues that are beyond the horizon that effect us here. At one time such important was given only to a select few. But today people tend to go with such a short blirt of news that it is even more important. Few actually take the time to think or check on what they hear. They depend on the likes of the Eagle and the news broadcasts to give them all the information they would need for an informed opinion as what to do in life.

  6. Kev
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    I honestly believe that American jounalist are the BEST in the world. There are lots of things other countries do better than we do. Many things. But journalism is not one of those. Journalist from other nations should learn more from ours.

  7. The Phantom
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Under bush more and more media outlets have been and are being consolidated. The FCC is back at it again, trying to make a last ditch effort to allow more consolidation this year. They must be stopped again.

  8. george
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    It no different than the Islamic crazies. Even though most of the Journalist are democrats they are still Americans. Of course if they keep on the socialist bent, they won’t be free to state their views.

  9. mrbill
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    And this differs from The Columbia School of Journalism how….?

    Not much. When you have the media voting for Bill Clinton ie Dems by 90 to 10 , seems there is need for some mandatory “diversity” the media is always first to clamor for. And the same would be true of Academia where diversity of THOUGHT is important , with universities such as Duke where 100% of professors give money to Dems only. Our local media should be investigating the political giving of all the local university profs and see if they hold up to this diversity of THOUGHT rather than diversity of COLOR. Why are all or most univ profs leftists…? AND why are not more conservatives recruited for Tenure. Because the leftists wont allow them to gain tenure…? Media should be on top of this..except for the fact they agree with it. heh

    For gods sake the usual Leftist almost came and burned down the NYTimes building last week when they announced that Bill Kristol was going to write a column from the conservative side. You cant dare have another opinion in the nations premier marxist paper.

  10. Posted January 6, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    As long as the government allows the tv networks and stations and radio networks and stations to merge we will not have honest and/or varied
    investigative reporting.

  11. The Phantom
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    You will have partisan billionaires setting the reporting agenda, from the top down.

  12. Ben
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Even the so-called ‘liberal’ NY Times jumped on George WMD Bush’s bandwagon for war. So much for any pretense of investigative journalism.

  13. JWink
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    In past years, metropolitan areas traditionally had competing metro-area daily newspapers. Here in Wichita, we had the Wichita Eagle and the Wichita Beacon. Plus the Hutchinson newspaper had its followers outside of Hutchison in the farm to market communities of Pratt, Great Bend, etc.

    Kansas City had the competing Kansas City Times and Kansas City Star newspapers. Sometime in the 1950’s or 60’s, these competing metro newspapers were purchased and combined into a single daily metropolitan newspaper.

    In Kansas City, an investor from Pittsburg, Kansas, owner of Dickey Clay Pipe company, attempted to start a new competing newpaper which was named the Kansas City Journal but it eventually failed.

    However, in the 1950’s and 60’s, many smaller neighborhood weekly newspapers continued to exist and even thrive which actually produced news, advertising and editorial content usually favoring a political party or faction thereof.

    Out and out political competition existed in conjunction with those newspapers. Harry Truman’s political campaigns in Jackson County/Independence of the 1930’s are perfect examples. A couple of those ferociously competing Jackson County political factions were the Eastern Jackson County Democratic Clubs (Pendergast) and the Congress of Democratic Clubs. Neighborhood newspapers included the Fairmount newspaper and one along Independence Boulevard.

    Lots of excitement and citizens really paid attention and got involved.

    Then TV came along and presented scraps of news and no written record that could be challenged. And of course advertisers and readers/viewers had to choose between newspaper and TV advertising.

    Ownership of newspapers also took a hit. Newspapers were originally owned by founders and their descendents. Then later by employee owned corporations. Then by national corporations such as Knight-Ridder which owned both the Kansas City (Times)Star and the Wichita (Beacon) Eagle. Then the SALE … Knight-Ridder sold some 30 or so newspapers to McClatchy Company.

    Fiancial pressures are mounting on McClatchy Company so I predict we will see lots of shuffling in and among the McClatchy newspapers this year to attempt to maintain profits.

    So, bottomline, newspapers have trimmed and trimmed and don’t have the news reporters to send outside of their metropolitan areas like they once did.

  14. Writerdog
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Thank you Mr. Bill, I had all but forgotten that aspect of some of the claims about journalism that seem to be not actually true anymore. Liberal sympathy, on the surface it did seem that indeed many favored a liberal agenda. But looking under the surface I find several incidences where it show they are playing ball with a right wing agenda. After watching the BBC documentary called “The power of nightmares”, in it several of the noted Neoconservatives were on camera outlining their plans for this nation and how they effect the U.S. Government. I was shock and called in to question the assertion that the media in the U.S. has a bias toward the liberal agenda. Since then there have been several farther examples of solid damning information that never are reported on in the MSM. If you go with the thought that no secret in Washington can be kept quiet. Then you have your worst enemy reveal the truth, people will automatically assume they are lying. If you condition people to think that your enemy will stop at nothing to undermine you, then ever your enemy’s follower will not believe the damning truth about you.

    Here is a foot note: ON one of the Sunday morning talk show it was noted the split in the GOP.
    One of the commentator made the observation that one segment is more the “Blue collar Reagan Republicans”. I guess I fall into that category, that is why I become fixated on the true Neoconservatives.
    Some on both sides of the aisle see them for what they are, some do not see them as any different from the other conservatives. Some sadly do not see them at all, never the less they are the real threat to America.
    We are all ideologist in one way or another, the difference is that most of us on either side are also realist too. The Neoconservatives do not let reality effect their thought process, as they tend to make up reality as they go.

  15. Max
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    I would bet many in America would agree with the following statement. Do you?

    “The problems of exploitation, oppression, and survival facing humankind can only be solved, ultimately, by the elimination of the exploitative system of capitalism. Our survival depends on a transformation to socialism. The U.S. working class, with a long revolutionary history and many powerful mass movements and organizations, has the potential to make this transition happen. That means building unity for peace, for protecting and expanding democracy, for living-wage jobs, for universal health care, for real equality for all those who are nationally or racially oppressed and women, for an end to the political control of the ultra-right over our political institutions, and for an end to the economic rule of the transnational corporations. Building and strengthening organizations of and alliances between the working class and its allies, winning real unity in the course of struggle, is the path from our current struggles towards socialism.”

  16. Max
    Posted January 6, 2008 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Kristin, do you and/or The WE agree with the above statement? (10:04 pm)

  17. Writerdog
    Posted January 7, 2008 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Well I do not agree Max, capitalism has its faults and to be honest to work best it should have some Communist leans. IN that in order for capitalism to work best, it is a symbolic relationship. Between the business owner, the consumer and the worker. Often the latter two are one and the same, as the worker is also a consumer and spreads their money through the economy and in turn the owner’s money paid to the worker comes back to them. It is prudent for the owner to invest in his business, to grow it as that investment will in the end come back as a long term profit. The more employees the more money is injected in the economy. The stronger the economy the better their business will do, as that inject is spread through to other workers who are also consumers of their business.
    The benefits paid by the owner are also to their business’s benefit, healthier workers are more productive and happier. Workers who have a vested interest in the business are more concerned for how the owner’s business is doing. There for if the owner offers a profit sharing program, where the more profit the business makes the worker reaps. The worker will then be thoughtful of waste and more likely to report such waste.

    Sadly the advise my dad give me over forty years ago as to “If you take care of the employer they will take care of you”. Is not true for most employer these days, about four years ago I was talking with an employee at Raytheon. He told me he had noticed a change in the company’s hiring practice, where the company use to be concerned about a prospective employee work history. Looking for people that had good attendance records and longevity of service to their former company. But they turn to rather hiring those that would not be expected to stay long. Those that could be used then thrown away or move on within a couple of years.
    The company I work for had a memo from the vice president of benefits that was leaked. She advocated to the board of directors. That the company should among other cost saving measure force out anyone whom had over five years of service to the company. As they had earned higher benefits and were getting older.
    And “were no more productive then an associate with only one year of experience.”.

    Capitalism give an opportunity for advancement, where In a communist system the jobs and the pay is equal among the worker class. As each job is seen as being equally valuable to the state. Though this gives a chance to work the job you would prefer. It ends up that is it the state and not the worker that chooses what job you will do. As such the state does not see how switching job solely on dissatisfaction is valid.

    Now Max, I answered you question though I feel it was rhetorical on your part. But perhaps it is rhetorical for all of us! In the mid seventies while I was in high school, it was a general agreement that the United States was moving toward Communism. The fact that openly declare Socialists were able to gain power within the Republican party. Means we very well may be there, listening to a number of the leading candidates in the GOP. and listening to Senators and Congressman with Rs beside their names. As they denounce the Constitution, we may have arrived. Now Max where do you stand?

  18. Ben
    Posted January 7, 2008 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Max – I will answer your question: NO.

  19. J R
    Posted January 7, 2008 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Max I will answer your question.

    Yes. At least to a much greater degree than we currently have.

    I can confirm your Raytheon story too writerdog. Management at that place is actually rewarded for treating workers badly and getting rid of them.

  20. Posted January 7, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    “Capitalism give an opportunity for advancement, where in a communist system . . .”

    Writerdog, I have to quibble with that. I don’t think the world has ever seen a true communist system–the old USSR and today’s China interpreted Marxism and applied it in their own peculiar way.

    But is that communism? THEY say it is, but when I read Marx, I don’t see much similarity. These states who call themselves “communist” in fact became just another kind of gov’t fascism, dictating people’s lives.

    I would say that a country like Japan which thinks of itself as a single family and strives to maintain economic equality is more in the spirit of Marxism than any so-called communist states we’ve seen.

  21. Ben
    Posted January 7, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    The closest thing to real communism would be an Israeli Kibbutz. And they have had problems operating after the first fervent religious members pass away.

  22. Max
    Posted January 7, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    The Source for my 10:04 pm comment was:

    Communist Party USA
    http://www.cpusa.org/article/view/758

    I thought many of you Libs would agree with it. The slant of the Lib press is now beyond Socialist and getting closer to their hero – Karl Marx.

    Writerdog confirms this when he says:

    “Well I do not agree Max, capitalism has its faults and to be honest to work best it should have some Communist leans.”

    MAX does NOT support this view.

    I did find it humorous that the American Press criticizes China for indoctrinating their own non-free press on Marxism, as it would make them biased and unable to write an objective news story.

    While the American press of course writes nuthin but objective and investigative news stories! (cough, cough)

    And the American press does not understand the meaning or value of Freedom, if it thinks that Communist China for one minute will allow their own press to be free to write whatever they want to write.

    Yet the press keeps pushing America in the direction of Socialism, then Marxism, still expecting to be able to publish their newspapers down the road, without first obtaining approval from the almighty, all powerful, all caring, and all powerful benevolent Government.

  23. Ben
    Posted January 7, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    “The slant of the Lib press is now beyond Socialist and getting closer to their hero – Karl Marx.”

    Like the slant of the New York Times in selling George WMD Bush’s war?

    I find Marx’s writings to be interesting reading but his theories are fatally flawed IMO.

  24. Ben
    Posted January 7, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Is that ‘liberal bias’ the reason FAUX kept Ron Paul out of the Republic “debate”?

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