Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton apologized during the Tuesday debate for some of the tactics by their campaigns. Here’s the view of New York Times columnist David Brooks about the fighting:
“What we have here is worthy of a Tom Wolfe novel: the bonfire of the multicultural vanities. The Clintons are hitting Obama with everything they’ve got. The Obama subordinates are twisting every critique into a racial outrage in an effort to make all criticism morally off-limits. Obama’s campaign drew up a memo delineating all of the Clintons’ supposed racial outrages. Bill Clinton is frantically touring black radio stations to repair any wounds.
“Meanwhile, Clinton friend Robert Johnson, a one-man gaffe machine, reminds us of Obama’s drug use and accuses him of being like Sidney Poitier in ‘Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.’ Another Clinton supporter, Gloria Steinem, notes that black men were given the vote a half-century before women.
“This is the logical extreme of the identity politics that (h)as been floating around this country for decades. Every revolution devours its offspring, and it seems the multicultural one does, too.â€
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We cannot have this fight get nasty and nothing good would have come of it. Remember that we ALL have to get behind whoever wins this nomination so that we can defeat the forces of evil in November. The forces of evil (aka Republicans) would love nothing more than to see us demaoralized by a nasty primary fight that divides blacks from whites, women from men and gays from regulars. They want nothing more than divide and conquer. We have to stay above that and stick to the issues.
Very good point Kev, and I think that they (Clinton and Obama) saw that fairly quickly. I think we (Democrats) want debate about policies, and even about how effective our candidates are, but it cannot get to be about race or gender.
More from David Brooks:
“But the entire theory of identity politics was that we are not mere individuals. We carry the perspectives of our group consciousness. Our social roles and loyalties are defined by race and gender. It’s a black or female thing. You wouldn’t understand.
Even in this moment of stress, Clinton wants to have it both ways. She wants to be emblematic of her gender and liberated from race and gender politics. As she told Tim Russert on Sunday: “You have a woman running to break the highest and hardest glass ceiling. I don’t think either of us wants to inject race or gender in this campaign. We’re running as individuals.”
Huh?”
Yup.
I posted on this article two days ago. This is what happens when identity politics clashes with identity politics. Hillary isn’t running on experience (she doesn’t have any substantive experience), she’s running on 1) identity politics, as a woman, appealing to women, and 2) the revival of the Clinton I administration – in other words, her husband (what a strong, independent woman she is!). Not.
Obama, to a lesser extent, is also relying on identity politics. And they are both attempting to appeal to much the same group of voters; thus the conflict.
Brokered conventions!! Cross your fingers, it could come. Yippeeeee!
Apparently all that talk about diversity and tolerance is just talk to the major players in the Democratic Party. How long will the ‘rabble’ put up with watching the party leaders showing their true colors?
Peace between Obama and Clinton lasted ONE day.
They can bring America together? They can’t even bring their own political party together!
End the Iraq war and bring peace? They can’t even bring peace between each other!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8tcMQCbWKZA&refer=home
Clinton Renews Attack on Obama Over Experience, Leadership
Not sure, maybe Clinton is playing Obama for a sucker here. Now be nice boys I won’t say anything if you want.
Max hates Clinton, Obama and all democrats?
Color me surprised.
All they have to do is start accusing each other of wanting to take old people’s Social Security away and it would almost be their typical tactics against the Republicans.
Farmgirl is for any Socialist Democrat running for office. Doesn’t matter what they say or do.
Surprise!
I’m just playing the Devils’ Advocate here but the Republicans aren’t exactly gelling either.
I want the Dems to go all the way to the convention.
Then I want the “Super Delegates” to give the nomination to Hillary.
Then, I want Hillary to pick a White guy, as running mate.
I hope you Dems are that stupid.
I really do.
No Econ, I want Clinton to pick Obama.
Then Obama will say no.
Then Clinton will pick a white guy.
Another thought
Gloria Steinem makes the point that Black men got the vote 50 years before women?
The truth is, many racists and KKK members were very supportive of Womens suffrage as a way to water down the Black vote!
“Thanks to Kathleen M. Blee’s superb scholarship in Women of the Klan I must now live with the fact that the Klan contained ‘all the better people’: businessmen, physicians, judges, social workers–even Quakers, political reformers and (this is the truly discomforting part) feminists. . . . Women of the Klan stands before us as carefully garnered, irrefutable evidence that women are capable of asserting their gender rights in the most noisome settings.”–Barbara Ehrenreich, Los Angeles Times”
http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/5625.html#titles
The KKK and the WKKK:
“The Ku Klux Klan is often thought of as a male-dominated organization; however
there is evidence that women contributed to Klan efforts and participated in their own
group, Women of the KKK. This study analyzes women’s involvement within the KKK
during the 1920s. Women’s participation in early progressive movements, including
temperance and suffrage, served as a catalyst for women’s involvement with the KKK.
This paper explores women’s roles in the Ku Klux Klan as leaders within the WKKK.
From earlier social movements, women gained knowledge needed to promote and expand
the WKKK and other white supremacist women’s organizations”
http://www.marshall.edu/etd/masters/kerbawy-kelli-2007-ma.pdf
That’s what happens when people focus on the less important issue of race and gender and sexual orientation instead of CLASS (as in wealth).
I’m pretty sure that as bad as our society is toward gays, Elton John was able bear up stoically, what with his London mansions and private jets.
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BTW, eCON, what are you telling your clients about the latest Republican stock shock?
The Dow is now officially DOWN along with Nasdaq and the S&P 500 for the year.
Capn
Take a look at history.
The market always corrects every few years.
What is remarkable, under Bush, is that it took longer than usual for this, particular correction.
Also, political pressure played something to do with many of the mortgages that should not have been written. This is, so far, a sector slow down, concentrated in realestate lending and realestate building.
Regardless, Clinton had his “dot-com” bubble. and now Bush has his housing bubble.
You should avoid politicizing to the point of blaming every economic indicator on the current President.
The stock market is often a “leading indicator” rather than a “trailing indicator” — meaning the market might be reacting to a possible Democrat Presidential win, — or the market might be reacting to the Democrat control of Congress.
In reality, political decisions are only one variable among many, as far as the markets are concerned.
Try not to oversimplify. It is not profitable or productive.
Si Se Pueda:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/UniteHERE_ad_Hillary_Clinton_does_not_respect_our_people.html
Hillary is getting bashed in Spanish, for trying to deny voting rights to Hispanics.
The forces of evil want to tax the sh!t out of the good, hard-working people of America. I hope they both go down in their liberal flames.
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