Clinton borrowed from Bush’s campaign playbook

ClintonHow did Hillary Clinton beat back Barack Obama in the New Hampshire primary? In part by using the same two-pronged strategy that George Bush employed in 2000 to stop John McCain’s surge: co-opt your opponent’s message, and raise doubts about him with the party faithful. Clinton adopted Obama’s “change” theme, arguing that she was the only one who could produce it, and she attacked Obama for waffling on issues, the New York Times politics blog reported.

24 Comments

  1. Writerdog
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    I hate to break the news to Hillary, I do not think that Obama is a John Mc Cain or an Al Gore!
    He does not have a military record to attack and he can be warm and personable.

  2. rfl
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    [Obama] does not have a military record…

    Having a record is the worst thing a Democrat can have if he/she wants to be President.

    Obama is leading because of his warm and fuzzy rhetoric (minus experience) and promising nebulous “change”.

    Democratic will eat that up!

  3. Posted January 10, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Right, Rolf.

    Exactly like the Repukes had with Bush–zero experience and fuzzy rhetoric (”compassionate conservativism”).

    Except the difference is that Obama isn’t a dumb$hit.

  4. WhiteElephant
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Quite a recipe Hilary threw in there.

    I’ve been an agent of change for years she claims, throw in come croc tears, say Obama’s flip floppin, and voila, she wins NH.

  5. fleettwood
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    Getting beat twice in Texas and twice for president (by a “dumb$hit”), may not be something you should be too proud about.

  6. The Phantom
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Only thing that could be worst is voting for the dumbshit twice!

  7. Posted January 10, 2008 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Fleetwood–

    I would be ashamed of losing to Bush, except that in 2000 Gore won.

    But I can see why you support him–dumb$hits for President Dumb$hit.

    You were the type they based the movie Idiocracy on . . .

  8. econ101
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Kerry is endorsing Obama:

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Kerry_Obama/2008/01/10/63261.html

  9. econ101
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Bush WON twice!

    If not, why did Gore concede?

    And, if the networks had not messed up with the exit polling, in Florida, Bush would have taken Florida by an even bigger margin.

    Those in the Panhandle gave up, they thought the race was over and they decided not to wait in line.

  10. rfl
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Presidents are mostly former governors. Bush and Bill Clinton are no exception and they both had experience typical of any other elected President. Obama has one term as a senator in national politics and no executive experience at the state level, but he is getting endorsements from the Democratic elite.

    For what?

    Because of his slogan?

    Or because having a record and being a Democrat is the worst combination for a politician to have?

  11. econ101
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Here is what a real feminist thinks of Hillary:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/01/10/hillary/?source=whitelist

  12. Ben
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    rlf – you are correct that Presidents are usually former governors. In fact, since JFK 1960 we have not elected a Senator. That is part of why I thought it was foolish for Kerry to choose Edwards as running mate – two east coast Senators – not good.

    That is also why I would look to either Clinton or Obama to choose a governor for balance – perhaps Richardson? (He was my first choice for President).

    Interesting thing this year – it could well be a Senator on BOTH tickets. And I think a McCain-Huckabee ticket would be a strong one.

  13. econ101
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    If Hillary does not pick Obama as a running mate, I would love to see the GOP keep running Hillary’s comments about Obama “not doing the spadework” to become President.

  14. Ben
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Paul – what do you think of my McCain-Huckabee ticket idea?

  15. econ101
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    I think the ticket would win.

    I think conservatives would hold their noses and go for it.

    I also think that Huck is trying for just that, as a Plan B.

    McCain is my second least favorite, Ron Paul being my least favorite. Speaking honestly, though, the populist Huck and the Moderate McCain would be a strong ticket.

    Also, I do not think that the McCain supporters who are turned off by Huck will vote against McCain/Huck.

    The serious question?

    What if conservatives stay home?

    That is why I want HILLARY to win the primary.

    That way, we won’t stay home!

  16. Ben
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Right now I think McCain-Huckabee would be the strongest ticket the republics could come up with right now. And, looking at currently mentioned names, I see either Clinton or Obama paired with Richardson as the strongest Democratic ticket.

  17. Ben
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Paul – off topic. Hop back down to Arena – made some comments a while back.

  18. American Way
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Wow! Hillary copying Bbbbush?

    I thought Bush can’t even tie his shoes right for democrats?

    Now your great leader is copying him?

    And with her 35 count them years of experience, why does she have to copy anyone? She should have elections down pat by now.

    And since she has 35 years experience, why hasn’t there been any “cccchange” yet?

  19. Steven Davis
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    The Obama/Hillary ticket will never happen. There is a rule that you don’t do two firsts on the same ticket. That rule will be observed by the Dems.

  20. mrcontroversy
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    McCain?
    Don’t EVEN get me started on that two-faced !@#$%^&!!!
    If he is the nominee, it will only:
    a) Make me work harder for the Democratic nominee;
    b) Make it easier for me to raise money within my industry for the Democratic nominee.

  21. Ben
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    MrC – those comments notwithstanding – what do you think of the political strength of a McCain-Kuckabee ticket? Would it unify the Republic Party?

  22. SolDevVB
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Would it unify the Republic Party?

    Yup. Unified right on over to the green/libertarian/democratic party.

  23. Sperry
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    This is interesting.

    http://ronrox.com/paulstats.php?party=DEMOCRATS

  24. J R
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    “And, if the networks had not messed up with the exit polling, in Florida, Bush would have taken Florida by an even bigger margin.

    Those in the Panhandle gave up, they thought the race was over and they decided not to wait in line.”

    No, I’m not letting that one stand.

    See? I waited in line for more than 3 hours to vote for Al Gore and I did it with a seven year old in tow KNOWING Gore had no chance in this backwater state.

    Now I guess you could argue that Florida Republicans are less committed or (maybe should BE committed)? Speaks for their resolve huh?

    And Phil? To use the word “strategy” in the same sentence with “bush” is like putting brain surgery together with Winnie the Pooh. And last I checked, bush was not the originator of political strategy of any kind.

    Damn but Senator Clinton looked good after that primary win! She looked more like a great American leader than I have ever seen anyone look.

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