Here’s conservative columnist Jonah Goldberg’s take on the GOP presidential campaign:
“Mitt Romney has been hacked apart like the Black Knight in ‘Monty Python and the Holy Grail.’ John McCain’s fortunes — which had been bouncing up and down like a printout of Dick Cheney’s EKG — have suddenly spiked northward after his victory in New Hampshire. Fred Thompson ran a brilliant ‘testing the waters’ campaign from his front porch, but when he tried to walk on the water, he sank like a basset hound trying to swim. Pushing the poor beast under the waves was Mike Huckabee, whose down-home folksiness makes Thompson look like David Niven.
“Huckabee’s surprise surge in Iowa has made him this season’s pitchfork populist, albeit a much nicer one — sort of a Disneyland Pat Buchanan. Then there’s Ron Paul. He started out as the designated wack job, then became so successful that the Des Moines Register had to cast Alan Keyes in the role of hopeless firebrand wingnut for a brief campaign cameo. And it’s a sign of how poorly Rudy Giuliani — once the indisputable front-runner — has done that I’m now mentioning him only after Paul.â€
Goldberg blames the chaos not on the candidates but on conservatives, who he says are changing what they believe.
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No, we aren’t “changing what we believe” —
Notice how, when a candidate wants to get ahead in the primary, that candidate speaks to the conservative Right?
Mitt Romney LEADS in delegates.
The press said NOTHING about Romney’s win in Wyoming.
The PRESS hates conservatism. The Press always says conservatism is cracking up.
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By the way, how about the chaos in the Democrat Party?
Hillary played the “gender card” and Hillary played the “race card” as well.
Obama is fighting back:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8U5KD5O0&show_article=1
It is NATIONAL news, on the internet and on Fox, anyway.
But liberals don’t know what to do when a “fake feminists” and a Black candidate fight over race and gender, in the DEMOCRAT Party!
I think the GOP are cannibalizing each-other. The shoe in Giuliani that was suppose to maintain the status quo for the current administration turned out to be a miserable failure, so the gop candidates are in a bloody free for all right now. Its really a wide open race, and we get to see the ugliness emerge.
The reason why Ron Paul started out as a “designated wack job” yet continues to stick around in the polls is that as voter research his message of strict fiscal conservatism, more voters are comfortable supporting him despite the long odds.
Ron Paul a wack job? You must be part of that Meth problem sweeping the mid-west. Are you trying to get a job with Fox News?
Heh heh
THIS thread is the reason for the one next door!
Unlike the other candidates Ron Paul is honest, a statesman, never voted for a tax increase or an unbalanced budget, pro life, supports the US Constitution, wants the government out of our lives, opposes the Iraq War, opposes the North American Union, opposes a National ID Card, and will not give amenisty to illegal aliens. He doesn’t wrap himself in a flag and wear his religion on his sleeve like Huckaboo. McCain is ready to start the draft and keep us in Iraq for a 100 years and bankrupt the country. Romney is a flip flopping, new world order, north american union, nafta, cafta, patriot act loving puppet same as the current president and his admin. Mr romney will not bring about any change and will continue the country down the path to economic disaster.
Unlike McCain Ron Paul has never taken a government paid junket or participate in the congressional retirement program. Google Ron Paul and learn about Freedom and how our Constitution is supposed to work. A vote for Paul is a vote for Freedom, anyone else and you get what you deserve. Enjoy your chains….
We’re surprised by this how? Both parties in the US are big-tent parties, driven by elections, not ideology. “Conservative” in America is an amorphous and largely self-applied label, just as is “liberal” (and the new preferred self-applied and largely meaningless label, “progressive”). Conservatives have never been a monolithic block of uniform true believers, any more than liberals are. And a candidate, for either party, is necessarily a bundle of compromises; no candidate is “perfect” on every issue to any voter.
Yawn. Some “news.”
Interesting. Unpredictable. Certainly different than GW’s coronation 7 years ago. That’s OK with me.
And it seems the Paulbots have arrived here.
Gentlemen: as much as conservatism does indeed have libertarian roots, yes, Paul is a whack-job.
I think that a lot of conservatives have lost their principled ways. I do not think the rhetoric of Fox News helps either. Ron Paul is the only TRUE conservative on the ticket, yet he continues to be smeared by the candidates, as well as the MSM (including FOX). Why? Ron Paul has never flip-flopped his principles, ideas, has NEVER voted to increase taxes and is the only candidate that is promoting the abolishment of some unnecessary federal agencies, like the Department of Education. Why is this not the stance of the Republican party? Where have the real Republicans gone? Why is there not more of an out-cry within the party to promote MORE candidates like Ron Paul? This primary election should not even be a race if the Republican party still held true to their principles of limited government and civil liberties! No other candidate is even talking about these issues, other than Ron Paul! Why? Not to mention our economy…why is it that Ron Paul is the only candidate that wants to get rid of NAFTA…which is making it “legal” for our jobs, American jobs!!!!, to be moved to other countries? The other candidates continue to talk about bringing in “new jobs” to our country. How about bringing BACK the old jobs that once made this country great!!! Get rid of NAFTA, secure OUR borders! Vote Ron Paul…the true conservative!!! Where have the true Republicans gone????????
GMC70, please state one reason why Ron Paul is a whack-job. True, Paul is an isolationalist and a fiscally responsible true conservative, which makes him a ‘whack-job’ compared to the way the rest of the republican candidates. Every person that I have talked to about Paul says something like ‘he doesn’t have chance’ or ‘he’s the ralph nadar this year.’ However, upon watching a debate or being directed to his website and actually learning what Paul’s positions are, EVERYONE becomes a Paul supporter. His momentum is gaining……RON PAUL 2008. Vote for a real conservative.
Ron Paul sponsored a newsletter with racist content.
Racism is NOT conservatism.
Ron Paul is a nut.
How can one help but have a dysfunctional Republican candidate? They all claim government is incompetent and shouldn’t do anything and they want to run it so they can run the country into the ground. They are all wackjobs by default. They only praise Reagan, the guy who was the most incompetent Republican since Hoover (Republican President, Republican Congress = economic depression). They think he’s brilliant because he ran the government with a $5 trillion credit card.
The only positive thing to say is that all the candidates think racist Ron Paul is a nutjob and don’t want to be associated with him.
“True, Paul is an isolationalist ”
Utterly false.
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst121806.htm
The bogus “Ron Paul” racism charge debunked – AGAIN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6rxts0-f9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CYNV0U_kg
The NAACP came out in Ron’s defense about those racist papers. Though I think all the Republicans have issues which will keep them from being elected. McCain and giuliani have shown in their adds and their comments in the debates that they are pretty racist against Arabs. Huckabee and Romney tell the populace what they want to hear. Thompson is running his campaign to be vice-president, and Ron Paul is completely ignored by the media.
It is not “racist” to recognize that radical Islam is the enemy, and to try and defend us from that enemy.
In fact, Ron Paul thinks that the way to handle radical Islam is to serve up Israel, on a platter, to the radicals.
All Christians should be rounded up and killed. BTW, I didn’t write that, it just happened to appear under my name and I pushed the submit button. I won’t say who really wrote it but I’ll say that some of my best friends are Christian so I couldn’t have possibly written that all Christians should be rounded up and killed.
“serve up Israel”
Israel seems quite capable of protecting herself. Are we on contract to support and defend Israel? When did Israel become the 51st state?
Do you really think the NAACP would back and/or stand up for a racist? I told you ever so many times that this was bunk and had no legs. You just further prove you inability to comprehend Doug. So sad.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/011308_not_racist.htm
http://www.nolanchart.com/article1134.html
Sol, I never said Ron Paul was a racist. Sure it might have said that in my posts but some one else wrote all those comments under my name. I’m a big Ron Paul supporter.
Even with your argument lost, you still play the ignorant a$$. Your parents must be ever so proud doug.
Whats odd is for the last few decades you’ve had conservatives screaming the the “government is evil” the “government is the problem” Now you have Dr Paul actually running on a platform of getting rid of much of the government, and you have many of the same conservatives running like chickens with their heads cut off at the prospect of a Paul candidacy
“The press said NOTHING about Romney’s win in Wyoming.”
Gee Paul, then how did I manage to read about it?
Even if Ron Paul was for war
he will not be a media darling because he is not in bed with big corps and military complex.
Unfortunatly as Ron Paul said many times in the debate , if the reps do not go back to their roots they will loose this election big time.
Just look at the record number of people voting for dems this year !!!
Bush policies bankrupted the country and anyone
that supports his policies will not be taken seriously.
Even fox news are completly lost. They do not know who to support anymore. Whenever they support someone , another condidates comes from the middle of nowhere and breaks their condidate lol then they change their mind again according to the new results.
First they were for Rudy ,Then for Ramney then now for Thomson but one thing is sure .
They do not want Huckabee nor Ron Paul nor MCain(because of his immigration positions).
So the choice is easy if u are not for amnesty for illegals go for Ron Paul or Huckabee if you are for war and amnesty you have Mcain.
In all cases (unless there is vote fraud) this will be a dems presidency especially if Obama gets nominated. People support him without even knowing his positions on issues (America loves the rich and famous)
Cheers
Ron Paul is in favor of indentured servitude and debtor prisons. For a guy who harps about the Constitution he sure does argue in favor of feudalism a lot. Maybe he’ll make himself a baron.
“No, we aren’t “changing what we believe”’ —
Right, Econ 101. You never really believed in anything.
What is your source doug is is this more hate rhetoric?
Sol –
I’ve seen Paul’s denial/apology. And I’ve seen the “debunking.” It won’t wash. One cannot have so much published under your name, for so long, and then proclaim it’s not yours with a wave of the hand and make it OK.
It’s either rank incompetence, or rank hypocricy. Neither is worthy of a serious candidate for president.
Whack-job. And yes, isolationist whack-job.
Doug, back up your indentured servitude claim with facts. Then maybe people will respect your positions and oppositions on canidates like Ron Paul.
Or at least back it up with a theory.
Paul is for deregulation and removal of federal protections protecting people from bankruptcy. Or has he changed his view on the “free market” recently?
GMC,
Have you heard-read what the NAACP had to say?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/011308_not_racist.htm
http://www.nolanchart.com/article1134.html
GMC70 theres a difference from an isolationalist foreign policy, and a non-interventionalist foreign policy, Ron Paul is the latter. His position is that we shouldn’t be policing the world, we should only intervene in foreign affairs if the situation is serious enough. We can’t even fix our problems at home when we spend most of our money on foreign affairs.
http://www.ruckus.org/warprofiteers/
Heres a website, you should get know all the people connected with the current adminstration and their economic expanisonalism foreign policy.
the biggest ennemy of isreal is saudia arabia :)
yet Bush just announced that he will sell billions of dollars of highly sofisticated weapons to them.
Do not forget that radical islam is a Saudia Arabia trademark !! Because usa backs a dicatorship kingdom that is stealing and opressing their people. And the “Radicals” overthere find it extremly easy to recruit anti american freaks.
Sooner or later that kingdom will crack and Isreal will be facing not a goup of terrorists but a whole country .
And since Saudia Arabia is a holly land , if any country dares to attack it , they will find themselves facing the whole arab world.(Most of the oil in the world)
As Ron Paul says all the time )-BLOWBACK-( )-BLOWBACK-( )-BLOWBACK-( )-BLOWBACK-()-BLOWBACK
but anyway Isreal is extremly powerfull compared to the other countries around it and it can take care of itself as long as its only ennemy is Iran and Hamas and Plestine.
But let us supposed that all arab countries decide to attack isreal !! all they have to do is drop millions of soliders on the ground and the deal is done.Even if Isreal nukes many countries , they will be outnumbred 1 to 100 or more and isreal is extremly small.
Cheers
A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. Capitalism cherishes voluntary contracts and interest rates that are determined by savings, not credit creation by a central bank.
Ron Paul
All initiation of force is a violation of someone else’s rights, whether initiated by an individual or the state, for the benefit of an individual or group of individuals, even if it’s supposed to be for the benefit of another individual or group of individuals.
Ron Paul
Capitalism should not be condemned, since we haven’t had capitalism.
Ron Paul
Cliches about supporting the troops are designed to distract from failed policies, policies promoted by powerful special interests that benefit from war, anything to steer the discussion away from the real reasons the war in Iraq will not end anytime soon.
Ron Paul
Deficits mean future tax increases, pure and simple. Deficit spending should be viewed as a tax on future generations, and politicians who create deficits should be exposed as tax hikers.
Ron Paul
Everyone assumes America must play the leading role in crafting some settlement or compromise between the Israelis and the Palestinians. But Jefferson, Madison, and Washington explicitly warned against involving ourselves in foreign conflicts.
Ron Paul
Having federal officials, whether judges, bureaucrats, or congressmen, impose a new definition of marriage on the people is an act of social engineering profoundly hostile to liberty.
Ron Paul
How did we win the election in the year 2000? We talked about a humble foreign policy: No nation-building; don’t police the world. That’s conservative, it’s Republican, it’s pro-American – it follows the founding fathers. And, besides, it follows the Constitution.
Ron Paul
I am absolutely opposed to a national ID card. This is a total contradiction of what a free society is all about. The purpose of government is to protect the secrecy and the privacy of all individuals, not the secrecy of government. We don’t need a national ID card.
Ron Paul
I am just absolutely convinced that the best formula for giving us peace and preserving the American way of life is freedom, limited government, and minding our own business overseas.
Ron Paul
I have never met anyone who did not support our troops. Sometimes, however, we hear accusations that someone or some group does not support the men and women serving in our Armed Forces. But this is pure demagoguery, and it is intellectually dishonest.
Ron Paul
In time it will become clear to everyone that support for the policies of pre-emptive war and interventionist nation-building will have much greater significance than the removal of Saddam Hussein itself.
Ron Paul
Justifying conscription to promote the cause of liberty is one of the most bizarre notions ever conceived by man! Forced servitude, with the risk of death and serious injury as a price to live free, makes no sense.
Ron Paul
Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense.
Ron Paul
Our country’s founders cherished liberty, not democracy.
Ron Paul
Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.
Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
Ron Paul
The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.
Ron Paul
The obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
Ron Paul
Throughout the 20th century, the Republican Party benefited from a non-interventionist foreign policy. Think of how Eisenhower came in to stop the Korean War. Think of how Nixon was elected to stop the mess in Vietnam.
Ron Paul
War is never economically beneficial except for those in position to profit from war expenditures.
Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
Ron Paul
When the federal government spends more each year than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans.
Ron Paul
But let us supposed that all arab countries decide to attack isreal !! all they have to do is drop millions of soliders on the ground and the deal is done.Even if Isreal nukes many countries , they will be outnumbred 1 to 100 or more and isreal is extremly small. – deepak
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The Gog and Magog prophesy. Ezekiel 38-39. The God of Israel rises to defend her. The end of radical Islam.
That would be interesting.
Sol:
You sure you want to link to “prisonplanet” as a site to support Paul?
I mean, the place is whack-job central.
Uh-huh.
“The press said NOTHING about Romney’s win in Wyoming.”
That is because, other than Romney, only Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson participated.
Neither Hunter nor Thompson have a snowballs chance in Hell of winning the nomination for the GOP.
I have never figured out what they believe. Seems they believe one thing today and another day tomorrow. First they preach “fiscal responsibility” and then run up the largest deficits in history- even beating Reagan (who also was a “conservative”). And then they say they do not believe in “nation building” yet they have got us into that in 2 countries costing a trillion dollars a year. Then they sau they are for “freedom” but have little trouble taking it away from everybody else.
Saudi Arabia is also the origin of 41% redical muslims that have gone to Iraq and Afghan….. and joined Al Qaeda.
The Saudi government also supports the coninued teaching of radical muslim.
We are now going to send them more technology to bomb Israel and train Al Qaeda —– they have proven there is a sucker born every minute – some ally …..
CONs have completely lost their common-sense.
Reagan, as bad as he was, was appalled when he learned that a single mother paid more income taxes than General Motors.
That’s how the Alternative Minimum Tax was born.
Reagan Republicans had some pragmatic principles as the above example illustrats.
The current crop has none. They make the mistake of all ideologs in believing their own propoganda. The CONs left the world of fact-based thinking (what most people call “reality”) and took on the fanaticism of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Cal Thomas, Thomas Sowell, The National Review, Fox News and other Neo-CON fire-breathers.
They didn’t need no steenkin’ facts. They had convictions. Convictions can never be refuted by facts, as Iraqmire continues to show us . . .
I totally agree, Ken.
If logic had ruled the day instead of greed for oil profits, we would have invaded Arabia and overthrown its corrupt and undemocratic feudal monarchy.
16 of the 19 hijackers on 9-11 were Saudis. None were from Iraq.
We invaded Iraq.
What’s wrong with this picture?
No, we aren’t “changing what we believe” —
Notice how, when a candidate wants to get ahead in the primary, that candidate speaks to the conservative Right?
Econ it depends on which conservative right you mean, most of what is said is not to conservatives like me.
“Hello we are still here!”, they speak to the Social conservatives and to the Neo-conservatives but to the Fiscal conservatives they sound more like drunken Democrats ( no offense to Drunken Democrats).
Some may call themselves Fiscal conservatives but to me they seem to be licking their lips and staring hungrily at their own children. Their policies are like those of a frat boy who has gotten their first credit card in College. You always back fill to build a solid base, you don’t take the soil from under the foundation and pass it up to build higher.
GMC70, I am a Republican, even during these times when the party has gotten a reputation of be Nazi like and willing to drink the blood of this country. I have not agree with many policies and stated that many times. But I take responsibility for these failure as well as the successes. I did not make these policies, I am responsible for them as I have voted Republican time and time again. I voted for the board member and head of the State BOE that pushed for the teaching of I.D. (creationism). I did it not know his intent or stance. Why did I vote for him then? Because he was a Republican and I also do not know anything about the Democratic candidate in that race. BUT Steve did these things in my name and the name of the Republican party. Because we shared the same party affiliation I assumed he was uphold my values and views. I was totally wrong… Bad on me! I voted for G.W. Bush the first time in 2000, so yes I am in part responsible in the end putting into office whom I believe is the worst President this country has ever had and by the Grace of God will ever have. So what is my point? Dr, Paul has stated that even though his name is on the top of the letter head. He was not running it and did not know until after the fact that these remarks had been made. He took responsibility as morally he was responsible it was print in his name and as such he has to take accountability for it. Denounce it as wrong and not what he actually believes or agrees with.
And none of the radicals on 9/11 were Iranians either, yet our President seems to want to provoke some sort of military assault on Iran… go figure!! And figure that many on the Right (religious right in particular) WANT some kind of HUGE battle in the Middle East, to promote their idiotic idea of prophecy being fulfilled!!
Of course republicans are NOT to blame! This is the work of liberals and their liberal press.
We won’t fall for it.
When the time comes, when a final candidate is decided, republicans will bond together to rid the world of evil democrats and their socialist agenda to undermind the youth of America!
Of course Republicans are NOT to blame for dysfunctional candidates. YOU the media came up with that negative label. Not republicans!
The liberal press and the democrats are responsible for the label.
Republicans will band together once our candidate of choice becomes known. We love a healthy debate! We think. We act. We disagree as a party.
No koolaid like democrats drink. Sheep all.
God WiTogether, republicans will fight the good race and campaign to defeat the forces of socialism which are so prevelant in the liberal party. We will fight for our candidate to defeat the forces of liberal socialism trying to undermind the youth of America.
writerdog
You simply MUST come and join me and the Dems.
The GOP is going on 30 years broken. Ya can’t fix it from inside.
Too? You simply have too much soul to continue on with the party of goons.
Now you and I are gonna differ on things like entitlements and such. But? At least if you come with me, we spend money on our own people and not the enrichment of giant corporations through worker abuse at the least and subsidized war at the worst.
Join us witerdog. WE will listen to you.
Begging for converts? What will that give you 100 in the entire county?
Now you are begging for converts? What will that give you in the county? 100?
It’s an oldie but still funny
Things Democrates believe in…Must be confusing.
“1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. Nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth’s climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV’s.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.
7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can’t teach fourth graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
9. You have to believe that hunters don’t care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make “The Passion of the Christ” for financial gain only.
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certainparts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn’t worked anywhere it’s been tried is because the right people haven’t been in charge.
18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the Chinese Government is somehow in the best interest to the United States.
21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.
22. You have to believe that it’s okay to give Federal workers the day off on Christmas Day …but it’s not okay to say “Merry Christmas.”
Like I said…very confusing indeed.
Ready to vote?
Still nothing from JM on the lawsuit against The Eagle and half a dozen bloggers.
Musta lapsed into insulin shock . . .
To be a CONservative, you have to believe that despicable sliming of your political opponents is funny.
He is suing BLOGGERS Capn?
I musta missed that.
My guess is I’d be on the short list too.
ALL you Ron Paul supporters?
Dems have always been a big tent. The GOP thinks it is bigger than you. Vote Dem or don’t vote. The GOP is overdue a lesson.
Yeah, JR.
Of course, that would mean that JimmyMac did something instead of just said something.
So it doesn’t seem likely, now does it.
Haven’t received my subpeona, but maybe Nola Folston stopped by when I was out. I am sure she did not have anything better to do today than investigate “crimes” on this blog.
As parkay would say, Tiller might have been needing some protection from Kansas law, and thus this blog was Nola’s second priority today.
This was scarcasm for the humor impaired here.
An insane person wants to sue me.
Well…
I don’t THINK he can garnishee my sanity. I know he cannot garnishee my beliefs.
I guess he will have to take my Earthly treasures?
Even he is gonna be awful disappointed.
You May Be A RepubliCON IF
you think the reason that you can’t live on your wages sweeping up at Wal-Mart is because of evil socialists who tax you too much . . .
Outlander
That is not true. The last time the Arab countries tried that the world made Israel give back the territory it captured. Arab-Israeli war aka 6 day war.
Don’t kid ourselves the Israels have the most complex and sophisticated army in the world.
They can take care of themselves and solve their own problems. If they want us to help with peace negotiations great if not fine.
you think the reason that you can’t live on your wages sweeping up at Wal-Mart is because of evil socialists who tax you too much . .
LOL actually Capt’ it was Republicans who screwed with my wages, one man’s tax cut is apparently another guy’s “ I know it hurts to be robbed so I will do it on the installment plain!”. Though the original Neoconservatives stated they are Trotskyites and you big tent guy made them feel unwelcome so they came to the Republican side! Way to go! Thanks a lot! I didn’t kick your dog!