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Rox – Chas Thanks —
Rox have a short list of where not to go ?
Didn’t seem to get much snow here (Mulvane) maybe a half inch …
We got about 3″ here near Lake Afton. Really beautiful when feeding the horses this morning!
I’ve got an old beardie and a young beardie and it’s a joy watching them play in the snow!
….. after the cats last 3 day excursion out being the neighborhood ho she won’t go outside without me —
(my sons cat) i’ll get a good size (retriever) when i get the fence in
Ben
Sent that email to Randy
It’s days like today I wished I had a retriever. I’ve never been able to train a beardie to get the paper!
it’s either a retriever or setter — foster homed a setter when i was in st jo mo — dumbest dog i’d ever seen — but always just thrilled to see you — and the plumber, and the robber
Hah
All five voting systems used in Ohio, a state whose electoral votes narrowly swung two elections toward President Bush, have critical flaws that could undermine the integrity of the 2008 general election, a report commissioned by the state’s top elections official has found.
At polling stations, teams working on the study were able to pick locks to access memory cards and use hand-held devices to plug false vote counts into machines. At boards of election, they were able to introduce malignant software into servers.http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/15/us/15ohio.html
Well, so much for the vote…
South Korean scientists have cloned cats by manipulating a fluorescent protein gene, a procedure which could help develop treatments for human genetic diseases, officials said today.
In a side-effect, the cloned cats glow in the dark when exposed to ultraviolet beams.http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/general/korea-breeds-glowinthedark-cats/2007/12/12/1197135555264.html
OH-MY-GOD!!!
As Christmas draws near, Pastor John Foster won’t be decorating a tree, shopping for last-minute gifts or working on a holiday sermon for his flock. After all, it’s been 50 years since Christmas was anything more than a day of the week to him.
He’s one of very few American Christians who follow what used to be the norm in many Protestant denominations–rejecting the celebration of Christmas on religious grounds.
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virginia/dp-religiontoday1214dec14,0,2910292.story
Well, it’s just like us Christians are always saying, there’s a war on Christmas!
Oh, wait a minute…
I’m skipping Christmas this year. I feel so superior in Walmart, with my cart of milk and bread, watching poor overweight harrassed guilty humans pull out the old plastic. ho ho ho, f….ers.
I’d LIKE to skip Christmas.
My kid won’t let me.
All the commerce and controversy and Bill O’Reilly. It just isn’t fun anymore.
The snow helps a little.
Not a home run, but a good start on Hybrid Cars and built right here in Kansas!
General Motors will build the Malibu at Fairfax plant in Kansas City, Kansas. Ford also builds it’s hybrid, the Escape SUV, in Kansas City, so there is speculation that this area may become a sort of “Hybrid Capital” in the US.
The Chevy Malibu sedan will be a 2008 model that will utilize GMC’s “mild hybrid system” rather than its dual mode full hybrid system.
GM has previously announced that the Malibu hybrid car would be built in the Kansas City area, and offered as an option for the newly designed 2008 Chevy Malibu – already a big hit among auto critics.
According to early reports the Malibu hybrid should offer about a 2 mpg improvement in fuel economy compared to the conventional Malibu, or about 24/32 mpg city/highway.
The hybrid Malibu offers a 36 Volt electric motor coupled with a 2.4 liter Ecotec VVT four cylinder engine and a four speed transmission that should provide seamless operation to drivers.
The Malibu hybrid made its debut at the MLB All-Star game, but was a showcase at the LA Auto Show.
Why a mild hybrid?
GM has recently stated that it would focus its full hybrid technology on larger trucks and SUVs, such as the Chevy Tahoe hybrid, emphasizing a lower-cost “mild” hybrid system over a “full” hybrid like the one developed by Toyota.
Thus, a hybrid like the Malibu hybrid will be cheaper, but also less fuel efficient than a Toyota Camry hybrid, for example.
Using an integrated starter-generator, mild hybrids, shut the gasoline engine off at stoplights, and offer around 10 -15 percent increase in fuel economy.
Don’t expect a dual mode hybrid in the Malibu any time soon, if ever. Nonetheless, if you want the most fuel efficient Malibu possible, then check out the Malibu hybrid. Overall, the Chevy Malibu is a hot new hybrid and going with the hybrid version can provide a nice increase in fuel economy.”
Oops forgot the source, but the information is all over the Web.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Malibu does better on the survivable crash tests than the Japanese Hybrids.
My car is almost 4 yrs old and has 116,000 miles on it right now. Sometimes I’ll drive 100 miles in just one shift of seing my patients. I’m definitely buying a hybrid when I purchase my next car, but I’m going to try and get the Toyota to 200,000 miles before I buy another car.I’ll check out the Malibu…hope it’s somewhat sporty, and I want a convertable just for fun.
“In a side-effect, the cloned cats glow in the dark when exposed to ultraviolet beams.”
Cat hunting just got easier.
I drive an ‘86 Lincoln Towncar. It’s a huge old classic, low mileage in excellent condition and considering it’s about the size of the USS Enterprise, at about 20 mpg, it’s not too bad on gas. I only drive it to work, so I burn a little over a gallon a week. When you include what tags, taxes, and insurance cost, it’s very cheap transportation. My wife drives a late model Saturn that gets 30-32 mpg. Of course we drive the Saturn most of the time. Considering what they want for a hybrid, I think we’ll be driving the Saturn for a long time.
With the weather the way it is this weekend, we’ll be driving the Lincoln. I feel very secure in my old “tank”.
Here’s the prices on the Chevy Malibu.
Appear to be around 22,000 and below.
http://www.carsdirect.com/2008/chevrolet/malibu_hybrid
Kansas, thanks for the link. Still, 22 grand is going to be a very basic model. If you want more than seats and a heater, it’s probably going to approach $30,000 (Mary’s convertible).
As I said before, our Saturn gets as good mileage, and it’s surprisingly quick. When I first started driving it, I was amazed at the acceleration, considering it’s a four-cylinder.
A major problem I have with buying new cars is the $2,000-$4,000 depreciation just for the privilege of driving it off the lot.
Yeah XXX, that sucks. But everything is new, everything (usually, unless there is a recall) works and it smells nice inside. I’ve owned used and new, and other than the payments and higher insurance, I think I’ll stick with new.Although there is this Mercedes sporty model I’ve had my eyes on….
CIA tapegate not going away anytime soon! Admin. asking Judge Kennedy not to delve into it, because congress is, telling congress to hold off because the Justice dept. has it covered.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071215/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_videotapes_6
Kline’s operation ‘Tail Gate’ appears to be a success!
Yes, you despicable douchebag:
Men in a same sex marriage are both husbands. Women are both wives.
Crawl out from under your rock.
It’s the 2 thousands.
Sheesh.
Posted by: CapnAmerica | December 14, 2007 at 05:44 PM
How exactly is this an advancement for humans?
We are in the 2,000’s now and we have improved how exactly?
Kansas,
Quick question (I hope). I’m looking for a good but not expensive software program to rip a DVD (not commercial movie, but personal) to mpeg, avi, or anything I can use with Flash. I need to put it on a website. Nothing illegal. The movie belongs to the owner of the website, and he sent me a copy of the DVD to use.
Any suggestions?
“It’s common knowledge that Christmas and its customs have nothing to do with the Bible,” said Clyde Kilough, president of the United Church of God, which has branches all over the world. “The theological question is quite simple: Is it acceptable to God for humans to choose to worship him by adopting paganism’s most popular celebrations and calling them Christian?”
From the link posted by XXX above.
Very good article, and I agree, Christmas as we celebrate it today, has become a pagan holiday celebrating the best material things that money can buy.
Thus, “happy holidays” is more appropriate then trying to convince people that December 25th has anything at all to do with Christ.
Windows XP has movie maker Rox.
Outside of that I’ll be learning from any other answers you get.
Al Sharpton Recorded Cutting Political Deal in FBI TapeSaturday, December 15, 2007
In a conversation secretly recorded by the FBI in 2003, former Democratic presidential candidate Rev. Al Sharpton can be heard offering to help a Philadelphia fundraiser win a multimillion-dollar business deal in exchange for drumming up political contributions, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Saturday.
The Inquirer obtained an account of the conversation, in which Sharpton asks fundraiser Ronald A. White in a New York hotel to raise $50,000 for him.
After White counter-offered $25,000, he said, “If you bring my guys up on this hedge fund, and I have the right conversation, I’ll give you what you need.”
“Cool,” Sharpton said.
Shoot. I forgot to add that I’m running Vista. My old computer with XP doesn’t have a DVD program installed and the drive isn’t working all that well either.
Thanks, JR, but my Movie Maker isn’t recognizing a burned DVD video, which is pretty much the same as what I’ll be using. I have no idea why, so I guess I need to dig into this and see what’s up. Okay, it isn’t exactly a home video I’ll be using, but a compilation of clips from an old TV show from the 70’s.
Sherri J. Lohnstein, 34, of Lincoln County, MO pleadedguilty Monday to involuntary manslaughter in the deathof her baby girl, Zreanna, from alcohol poisoning. Ina disgusting plea bargain, Circuit Judge NancySchneider sentenced Lohnstein to a four-month stateprison substance abuse treatment program. If Lohnsteincompletes that treatment, Schneider could place her onprobation.Zreanna, who was born several weeks premature, diedwithin minutes of her emergency Caesarean birth onSeptember 9, 2006. Lohnstein’s blood-alcohol level atthe time was 0.18 percent. Zreanna’s was 0.17 percent.Shyster Richard Scheibe, head public defender in St.Charles County, got the drunken killer mother off easybecause of an earlier ruling by the Missouri Court ofAppeals on drug abuse, barring prosecution of a womanfor causing indirect harm to her baby before birth, bydeliberately ingesting enough drugs to cause injury ordeath to the baby.- – -
Dozens of pro-life groups have issued a new lettercondemning the baby-hating American College ofObstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) position, thatpro-life doctors should refer mothers to abortionmills, if they don’t want to commit abortions.[Referral to an abortion mill is participating in anabortion, and carries part of the blood guilt. Nodecent physician would commit such a referral.]- – -
Two researchers say reducing abortions in the UnitedStates would significantly cut the rate of prematurebirths. [Duhhh! Over 20 years of studies have proventhat.] They say the rate has increased as abortion hasbeen legalized and point to Poland as an example ofhow banning or significantly reducing abortions wouldhelp pregnant women. Poland dramatically reduced itsrates of premature birth, maternal mortality andinfant mortality within a few years after its abortionrate declined by 98% between 1989 and 1993 (as aresult of the passage of an abortion ban). Between1995 and 1997, Poland’s pre-term birth rate dropped by41.8% and maternal mortality decreased 41.4%, andinfant mortality was down by 25.0%, a unique drop inpremature birth and associated medical problems.Reduction of breast cancer would be an added benefitof abolition.- – -
Details on Missouri’s new initiative to preventcoerced and unsafe abortions (=most abortions) are atpagehttp://www.stopforcedabortions.org/initiative.htm- – -
Abortionist quacks don’t need to chafe their valuablehands by washing between abortions, and besides have a licenseto lie to victimized mothers, according to abortionistquack Alberto Hodari, speaking at Wayne StateUniversity in Michigan. Hodari is accused of causingseveral botched abortion deaths, including a minorgirl, Tamia Russell, who evaded Michigan’s parentalconsent law.- – -
As in Kansas, abortions have been on the rise in Illinois and new figures from the state healthdepartment show them increasing in 2006. The number ofabortions in Illinois for 2006 reached 46,467, compared to a 2005 total of 43,409, a 7% increase, while most other states are seeing a decrease inabortions. Likely the failure of the Illinois Legislature to enact a parental notification law isattracting minor girls across state lines to secretlycontract the killing of their children, causing a rapid increase in out-of-state abortions. Furthermore,Planned Parenthood abortion mills are notorious for violating parental notification laws when they are enacted, and for violating statutory rape reportingrequirements, since the notifications and reportingmight cut down on abortion mill profits.The failure of Kansas government to enforce state laws in abortion mills, under the corrupting influence of the abortion industry now being brought to clear light, is causing a national crisis in criminal justice, as thousands of out-of-state mothers enter Kansas every year for illegal late-term abortions not tolerated elsewhere.- – -
In some districts of India, there are only about 300girls for every 1000 boys, because of illegal sexselection abortions, likely killing 10 million babygirls over the last 20 years.
The bomb that ravaged Benazir Bhutto’s Pakistatni homecoming processional in October appears to have been rigged to the clothes of a baby who was held up for the former prime minister to embrace.
Human life gets cheaper in Asia.- – -
A Californicatia Superior Court jury deliberated fortwo days before finding Leticia Castro, 30, ofCatalina Island, CA not guilty of first-degree murderand assault of a child on Wednesday. The jurydeadlocked 11-1 in favor of an involuntarymanslaughter conviction, forcing the judge to declarea mistrial on that count. The jury said there wasn’tenough evidence to prove that her 6-pound newborndaughter was alive when Castro stuffed her into agarbage can aboard the Catalina Express ferry in 2004.Castro will remain in custody while prosecutors decidewhether to retry her on the charge.
Deputy DA Todd Hicks said murder convictions formothers with newborns are rare, because juries andjudges think women are incapable of killing theirchildren.[Perhaps we need some 20-year sentences for abuse of acorpse.]
Pastor Anderson, you need to understand how people in the 21st century have crossed a great bridge where there is now much more openess and acceptance of others. Conventional definitions of normal human relationships and marriage have evolved for the better.
I’m learning too Rox.
Parkay, do you not understand that killing babies in America is a good thing?
In fact, it be a normal thing since 1974.
Don’t you dare kill a dog though.
Elton,
I think the key word there is “acceptance”, much as Jesus preached. “Tolerance” and “brotherly love” run close seconds.
Kansas,
Quick question (I hope). I’m looking for a good but not expensive software program to rip a DVD (not commercial movie, but personal) to mpeg, avi, or anything I can use with Flash. I need to put it on a website. Nothing illegal. The movie belongs to the owner of the website, and he sent me a copy of the DVD to use.
Any suggestions?
Posted by: Rox | December 15, 2007 at 01:34 PM
Windows Media Player will rip CD’s, but not DVD’s. Here’s the Microsoft page.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/knowledgecenter/mediaadvice/0053.mspx
——————Magix Movie Editor
http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/detail/
Can buy online and download for use immediately
The best bang for the buck for inexpensive Movie Makers and DVD burning is Magix Movie Edit Pro for about $49.00. It can do just about anything you want in Home Movie Editing and DVD burning. Has a ton of other software that comes with it as well (audio editor.) It will also save to Flash Format. I haven’t used this software, but it has very good reviews and the people I know that use it are happy with it.
Magix Movie Editor might be on sale now as well, I think I remember reading that somewhere. $49.99 for a very capable full movie editing package that burns DVD’s and saves in Flash if need be.——————-If you just want a program to save in flash, but doesn’t burn DVD’s then I would recommend:
FlashTo make a movie into Flash, you can use ON2 Flix Standard, which costs about $39.00.
https://flix.on2.com/
The ON2 Flix standard about in the middle of the page on the right and you can download after purchase, then install it. It’s an industry standard for a lot of video to flash converters, probably the best bang for the buck.
I have the pro version of On2 Flix, which is more expensive and faster, but I doubt you will need all of that.——————
I use Adobe Products and bought the package that includes a variety of software for about $1800.00. I don’t think you want to do that, so won’t go in to it. :)
“We are in the 2,000’s now and we have improved how exactly?”
Posted by: Pastor Anderson |
Well, let’s see Pastor…in the USA, we no longer put women in shackels when they are unmarried and get pregnant, we don’t allow slavery, black and white people can sit side by side on the bus or in a restaurant, women can be independant and not dependant on a man to take care of them, we can vote and have equal access to any career(in fact, we’re out numbering men in college and medical school now), children aren’t putting in 12 hour days in the factories or kept from having an education so they can work the farm, unions protect the rights of workers and advocate fair pay and benefits..I could go on and on, but I guess you get my point. Actually, I think now is a pretty darn good time to be alive in this country.
Rox,
Just read that you have Windows Vista.
The Magix Edit Pro is Vista Compatible.
I’m not sure about the on2 Flix standard. I know the pro version is vista compatible though.
Thanks, Kansas, I’ll check them out. I doubt I’ll be doing a lot of this, so I’m not willing to spend the big bucks right now. I’ve done YouTube videos and a couple of other kinds, but nothing like this. I appreciate your suggestions. :)
Now back to our regularly scheduled comments…
Rox check out CompUSA.
They’re going out of business.
Rox, I know MindScapes could help and they have all the equipment and software you could list. I have a bit of sway with the instructors. Call me and we can get answers and help.
I like interviews when Charlie Rose does them. It’s time for Bill Clinton to stop thinking about the White House.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/12/a-tense-bill-cl.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_45KK8jwJR0
In an interview with the inimitable Charlie Rose last night, former President Bill Clinton said his wife’s most threatening challenger, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, isn’t ready to be president.
“It’s less predictable, isn’t it?” Clinton said. “I mean when is the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the Senate before he started running?”
He called voting for Obama being “willing to risk it.”
Which is more important? he asked. Electing a symbol or a woman who has done things to change people’s lives.
He suggested that Obama take a page from his life, and realize he’s not yet experienced enough for the gig.
“When I was a governor and young and thought I was the best politician in the Democratic Party, I didn’t run the first time. I could have,” said Clinton referring to the 1988 campaign he ultimately decided to sit out. “I knew in my bones I shouldn’t run. That I was a good enough politician to win, but I didn’t think I was ready to be president.”
(Historians may take issue with that explanation as to why Bill Clinton didn’t run. The reason they cite is that coming off Gary Hart’s 1987 “Monkey Business” scandal, those close to Clinton cautioned him that his personal life would be dissected and probably wouldn’t withstand the scrutiny — which would harm his beloved then-7-year-old daughter. Read more here from David Maraniss’s First In His Class or from Carl Bernstein’s A Woman In Charge.)
ABC News Political Director David Chalian watched the Charlie Rose interview and writes: “This interview was remarkable and perhaps quite telling about the mood within the Clinton world at the moment. I’m not sure that Bill Clinton did anything in this interview to advance his wife’s cause. He appeared quite tense and almost pissed off that Barack Obama is running for president.”
Out of town here, This abduction killing od Sander was so sad. One question-was this Mireles guy “Undocumented” ???
I have seen nothing as to Mireles either being documented, or Undocumented. Try Eagle Archives?
Researching it I can’t find the story I read earlier but it said he was legally working in the US but was still a Mexico citizen. Since we have the death penalty if caught he would not be sent back in all probablility.
That’s true Ksgrm… and beyond that, last I read, there wasnt exactly any evidence linking Mireles to her murder yet either..
But, I am not up to the minute current on the story either!
You Republicans will enjoy this:
Okay, here’s the plan:
1) Back off and allow those men who want to marry men, marry men.
2) Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
3) Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.
wait for it —
4) In two generations, there will be no democrats!
5) Man, I love it when a plan comes together!
“inimitable” is not a word I associate with Charlie Rose.
If Ted Kennedy started to confess that he killed his secretary at Chappaquidick, Charlie would interject something about those “touch football games the family was so famous for.”
This guy is so toothless, he doesn’t even rise to the level of ankle-biter, he just slobbers all over everybody.
Parkay–
“Baby killing” is illegal in the United States.
Aborting a clump of cells that may or may not develop into one or more live births is not.
If you don’t like it, change the law.
If you can’t change the law, get over it.
Or you could move to Saudi Arabia, Parkay.
They don’t allow abortion there.
When all else fails for dvd ripping, check the forums at astalavista.com
Hillary’s a trooper!http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071215/pl_nm/usa_politics_clinton_dc_2
I thought I heard he was a ‘resident alien’ whatever that is. I think maybe he had a green card.
“Baby killing” is illegal in the United States.
Aborting a clump of cells that may or may not develop into one or more live births is not.”
Maybe you should do a little more research on fetal development, Capn. By the time a baby is aborted it is more than a “clump of cells” and late term abortions IS the killing of a baby, whether she/he is viable outside the womb or not. “Abortion stops a beating heart” is true.I agree that abortion should stay legal, outlawing it wouldn’t stop it and would only put women who are intent on ending their pregnancies at risk. But let’s not pretend it’s something other than what it is…the destruction of an innocent human life.
Continue your work to make all life valued and valuable Mary. You are truly pro life.
At what point in time can that tiny clump of fetal material sustain itself — breathe on its own??? Survive outside the mother??
The same question would go for the frozen embryo’s in the science lab… When can those embryos become living sentient beings?? Can they be said to be truly “alive” in that frozen state??
I amnot sure who is able to answer these questions. But I dont think its a bunch of politicians trying to stir up a frenzy between people…
Chas, could I ask a question and see if you can answer it.
Late Term Abortions -
Ask yourself why abortions Doctors don’t completely pull the body of the “fetus” outside of the woman’s body before they destroy it. (i.e. they leave the head in, while the body dangles outside of the woman)
I know the answer, do you? :)
Since the head comes out first, I dont think you have that correct.
If the feet come out first, the baby is breach… and requires a C-Section to give birth…
Now, are you suggesting that the abortion Dr. puts the head BACK IN?? I think not!!
Chas..just because a fetus is dependant on it’s mother to sustain life until it can sustain on it’s own doesn’t mean it’s not alive. If it’s nto alive, then don’t worry about it because it won’t grow and develop. An 8 week old fetus has a heartbeat and produces brainwaves..in the medical profession that’s how a human is determined to be alive.As far as partial birth abortion, doctors developed that technique to prevent what they call and “Oops abortion”, they crush the baby’s head to make sure it’s dead when it’s extracted from the mother’s body. There have been cases when an abortion resulted a live baby, and the baby left to die after it was “born”.
Read up on it first Chas, then get back to me. :)
Oh, and last time I checked, LATE terim abortions account for maybe 1% at Most of all abortions nationwide?? That would mean how many per year in this city, MAYbe??
Kansas, then you are claiming that the aborted fetus is born feet first?? or what??
I am sure you are now an expert on obstetrics, since you are a self proclaimed expert on everything else on the Blog!!
Kansas, then you are claiming that the aborted fetus is born feet first?? or what??
I am sure you are now an expert on obstetrics, since you are a self proclaimed expert on everything else on the Blog!!
The other day, george bush vetoed my son’s health care a second time.
Now tell me why I should see “pro life” as anymore than hypocrisy?
Okay Chas, whenever you decide to focus on the question let me know.
Chas, when a partal birth abortion is performed, the fetus is delivered feet first (the baby doesn’t turn head down until the last few weeks of pregnancy), then a hole is punched in the base of the skull, a catheter is inserted, the brains sucked out, and the head crushed before the fetus is removed. That way the fetus will be dead for sure when it’s delivered.
IF the aborted baby is born “alive” and then left to die, that would be a homicidal act. IF that has happened, then the practitioner should be tried in a Courtroom… for a criminal negligence charge.
I am thinking I read where that particular story has already been debunked once or twice…
Kansas, you havent asked a question yet. You are pontificating. What is your question??
JR, I’m prolife and I think it’s deplorable that Bush vetoed SCHIP again. Those who are truley pro-life advocate these healthcare programs for children.
Now your getting it Chas.
The head of the fetus is left in so there is no chance of being charged a homicide.
If the head clears the woman, then it is considered a live birth and the “fetus” must be considered human.
Now that wasn’t hard was it Chas? :)
So the difference between a fetus and a human in this case is surrounding female tissues and about 4-6 inches.
That is why you are the only one I call pro life Mary.
It is also why I left the “pro life” crowd.
Mry, as I have posted here MANY times, I am not Pro Abortion… I am just Pro Choice.
But, there are many who cannot seem to understand that distinct difference. It isnt really ll that hard to do, unless one is legitimately brain damaged.
darned typos
unless one is legitimately brain damaged.
Posted by: Chas. | December 15, 2007 at 10:12 PM
No Chas.
In this case, it is the fetus who is not given a chance to be human that is legitimately and intentionally brain damaged.
IF a fetus has reached some sort of viable point, in terms of existence, then I have a hard time with abortions…
BUT — Once again, I am merely Pro Choice… nothing more / nothing less… just Pro Choice.
Partial birth abortion is SO vanishingly rare.
It is intellectually dishonest to include it in debate.
What woman carries a pregnancy 8 or 9 months and then changes her mind without a good medical reason?
I don’t like doing it. It makes me ashamed.
I KNOW a partial birth abortion story I was part of.
In this case, it is the fetus who is not given a chance to be human that is legitimately and intentionally brain damaged.
Posted by: Kansas | December 15, 2007 at 10:15 PM
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NOW who isnt understanding what was posted?? Eh??
I said nothing about a fetus in that post… Go read it again!!
Chas..In the early 70s aborting a baby alive was sometimes a problem..so much in fact that the law was passed to protect a fetus aborted alive. There were cases where fetuses aborted alive were left to die. Now that partial birth abortion is legal, the chances of that happening are rare. Abortion techniques have advanced since the early days of legalized abortion to make sure the fetus is dead before it’s extracted.Even when a baby is born premature, it has to weigh a certain amount before an attempt will be made to save it.
Hillary’s a trooper? Glickstein’s beagle even knew better!
Owwwwoooooooooooo!!!!
“I’d be honored to have your support,” Clinton said on the front porch of Mike Glickstein, a Manchester resident.
Glickstein, a 38-year-old maintenance worker whose beagle howled incessantly as he spoke to the former first lady, said he had intended to vote for Clinton already.
Mary you are better than to fight the partial birth thing.
That is a dishonest tactic of desperation. Don’t.
Well, it seems to me that a partial birth abortion would need an extreme amount of discretion, in order to even be attempted… I am assuming that is why it is SO rare…
Now, since my initial statement has been spun out of all proportion, perhaps we could get back to it??
Of the possibly 1% of late term abortions done in the USA, how many would that put being done in THIS city??
“Pro-choice” sounds so much better then “Pro-abortion”, doesn’t it?
Makes you feel better, huh.
It’s still the same dead baby in the garbage can, whatever name you put on the act that put him or her there.
Max, I did not say I am Pro Abortion, did I?? Did I?? Did I?? NO I DID NOT!! And I even repeated it. I SAID, I AM PRO CHOICE!!! There I said it real slow, so you can read it! And there is NO logical way you can spin PRO CHOICE into pro abortion!!
I simply want the CHOICE to remain legal, so that WOMEN have that CHOICE… Get it??
Pro Death sounds even worse Max :)
JR, a woman can’t have a late term abortion unless there is a medical reason..that’s where the debate is..what consitutes a medical reason? Is being depressed reason enough to abort a viable fetus? Other reasons may include to save the life of the mother, although I really don’t know any medical condition that would justify aborting a baby in the 9th month. The mother still passes the fetus through the birth canal no matter if the fetus is alive or dead.
If the baby is found to be non viable outside the womb or have some other serious deformity, then a late term abortion is legal. Some think that a baby having a club foot is jusification enough.
By the way, Max, I have never offered counsel to ANYbody to HAVE or NOT HAVE an abortion! I have told several women that it is a choice THEY have to make… And not one that can be made for them, except for in some dire emergency!
Kansas… I am a married man, with 2 children and 5 garndchildren… It isnt a stupid joke, like your little “smiley” indicates your feelings to be!! Making “fun” of it will not make it go away!
Kansas, “Pro-death” sounds less nice, I agree.
Call it whatever you want.
Maybe:
“Expedited Trip to Heaven”
“Mercy Delivery”
“Trojan II, The Sequel”
“Stem Cell Collection”
“Sales Revenue Enhancement”
Mary, I do know of a couple of cases — on the remote edge of happening — where a late term abortion might have been feasible…
ONE >> A woman who had been diagnosed in her 6th month, with pancreatic cancer… and then in her 7th month, her husband was killed in car accident. Neither one had siblings, and both sets of parents were either dead, or not able to take on a new born.
TWO >> A woman, 39 yrs. old, had a brain aneurism — completely comatose — 7th month of pregnancy… Again, Husband was hospitalized with terminal cancer.. Parents were not in close contact – internal family issues.. siblings out of the country…
Those two cases are the only ones I have seen recently that MIGHT justify a late term abortion. Note I said MIGHT…
As to the ohers, I still see nobody has an answer to my original question — maybe because nobody has the very small number that it might be here in this city??
Sorry Chas, the smiley face is a habit.
I’m the same way in real life, I smile when I talk to people.
I’ll try to be more of a sour puss when I address you.
I don’t like telling this.
When I was “pro life” I followed a VERY pregnant woman and her husband…me and some other “pro lifers” to where they were staying.
It is common knowledge where Dr. Tiller’s patients stayed. It was then anyway.
We did all the usual stuff. “Why are you killing your baby?”
“What kind of man are you?”
“Please don’t kill your baby!”
etc.
We hounded these folks at the Inn. I even hung around hoping to catch the Dad if he dared come back downstairs.
He did.
They very much wanted a child. They had been trying a long time. The baby was…not right. Encepha something. I forget. They were heartbroken. But the baby would not live hardly at all after birth.
This guy he broke down and cried and asked me “why are you doing this?”
Well I wasn’t any less determined than I am now.
So even though I was taken back, I said “Well why not just let your baby be born?”
“Because the doctors say it won’t look like a baby, ok? I can’t do that to (his wife’s name) after we have tried so hard!”
That was the beginning of the end of my involvement in the “pro life” movement.
Look I lived through a pregnancy and birth before that incident. Two miscarriages and another pregnancy and birth after.
It isn’t right to use the partial birth abortion argument.
I don’t think anyone goes through that procedure without a good reason.
I will consider other comments to be just baiting or flaming, if they dont address the original question I raised… Thank you all for not caring to have an intelligent discussion.
Kansas, if you smile at people while talking about the seriousness of abortion and pro choice, gee, I dont know what to say… I didnt say you needed to be a sour puss… But you might not put on the “air” that you take it so lightly as to SMILE about it, like you would at a joke!! Get REAL man!!
That looks really bad for your hopes for credibility!!
I don’t know the answer to your question on how many late term abortions were performed by Tiller.
I’ve heard that the total number of abortions Tiller has done is approaching 100,000.
If you claim one percent is accurate then 1000 late late term abortions have been performed by Tiller.
That’s a guess, I don’t know.
Max it’s really not fair for you to stir up Poster C (his street rap name). You have him sooo out gunned. It will never be a fair fight. Have some mercy, pls. After all, it is Christmas.
***O’chasism alert***
(Note the use of CAPS and redundant punctuation!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(It is fun to watch though. Provides a little Orchasm.)
I’ll keep that in mind Chas, that smiles indicate lack of credibility.
Hillary’s $850,000 Donor Friend HSU Indicted by a Federal Grand Jury!
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usclin055488095dec05,0,7608014.story
Hsu’s indictment has Clinton battling perceptions
BY MARTIN C. EVANS | martin.evans@newsday.com
December 5, 2007
Hsu was indicted yesterday on 15 counts of defrauding investors of at least $20 million, and of violating campaign finance laws by donating to candidates in other people’s names.
As the race for the White House moved into its final weeks in 1996, Republicans were accusing the campaign of Bill Clinton and Al Gore of unethical fundraising tactics, including Gore’s attendance at a fundraiser at a tax-exempt Buddhist temple in California.
Now, as Hillary Rodham Clinton seeks the White House, the indictment yesterday of a former chief fundraiser, Norman Hsu, may see her confront potentially harmful fundraising questions of her own.
“Will this help? Of course not,” said Maurice Carroll, director of the Polling Institute at Quinnipiac University, in Hamden, Conn. “You accumulate enough hurts and you have a problem.”
In September, Clinton returned $850,000 to Hsu after it was revealed he was a fugitive from a prison sentence following a ponzi scheme conviction.
In October, she returned more campaign cash after it was revealed her campaign took in some 150 donations of between $500 and $2,000 each from Chinatown dishwashers and street vendors – many could not be located or denied making donations.
Kettle Calling The Pot Black – From One Crook to the Other
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23958&s=rcme
Hillary’s Slush-Fund Attackby Robert Novak
Posted: 12/13/2007 Print This
David Axelrod, the seasoned Chicago Democratic political operative who is chief strategist for Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, was taken by surprise in the last minute of CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Dec. 2. Howard Wolfson, Sen. Hillary Clinton’s spokesman, accused Obama of running a “slush fund.” In fact, the Clinton campaign was spreading that story privately months ago.
Last summer, a senior Clinton aide told a famous Democratic personage believed favorable to Obama that the Illinois senator was using his “leadership” political-action committee to spread money around the country to grease his presidential prospects. That message was private when Clinton seemed far ahead for the Democratic nomination. It became public when Obama threatened to overtake her.
I can’t find recent statistics on late term abortions in Kansas.
I had a friend who was diagnosed with cancer when she was 6 months pregnant. She would never even consider an abortion, so they waited until she was through her seventh month and then delivered the baby so they could start her treatment. The baby was born with severe heart defects, and my friend died three weeks after her daughter was born. Her daughter died when she was about a year old. I don’t know what the right answer was, all I know is that my firend could never have lived with herself is she chose to have an abortion.I know most people don’t have late term abortions for trivial reasons, and it’s always a tragedy.
Absent til now, “comment tator” appears.
Just when “kansas” needs an ally to beat up on Chas.
Max is for real but losing points.
Comment Tater, I didn’t realize I had stired Chas up.
Did I?? Did I?? NO I DID NOT!!
BTW, did you find your expanded Chasism definition?
Dang JR, what’s the score?
4th Quarter and 2 minutes to go.
Do I have a chance?
This is why I say don’t go there Mary.
Pregnancy is HARD. And that’s a second hand participants opinion.
I don’t think any rational woman gets past month 6 knowingly and then decides on abortion without a really good reason.
It’s funny and illustrative. Mary was the only one to address it.
When the President of the United States vetoes health care for poor kids a second time, how can anyone support him and claim to be pro life?
JR,
There are two options for the truncated form of “until.” You missed both of them.
Acceptable forms:”till” (which is an older form)or
” ’til”
Too?
Your grammar is devolving. Not that it has ever been stellar.
This is why I say don’t go there Mary.
Pregnancy is HARD. And that’s a second hand participants opinion.
I don’t think any rational woman gets past month 6 knowingly and then decides on abortion without a really good reason.
It’s funny and illustrative. Mary was the only one to address it.
When the President of the United States vetoes health care for poor kids a second time, how can anyone support him and claim to be pro life?
Max,
No, I never found it. Poster C had his Blog Mommy take it out so it wouldn’t hurt his feewings. I’m sure I can reconstruct it, though. It had something to do with denying obvious, empirical evidence because it didn’t fit with previously adopted blue lens views. Is that getting close?
Carry on Comment Tater, J R thinks I’m you any way.
Taking shower…
:)
oops! my bad Chas – cancel that smile!
:)
oops! dang it!
:)
OK Tater has shown up… Well, Kansas, if you divide 1000 by the number of years Tiller has been here (something I do not know) then you have some idea how wide-spread this dreadful D-X abortion technique is in this city… And, I would have a hunch that your estimate of 100,000 is pretty high!! So, how many years has Tiller been here??
tator tot must be like “kansas”’s grandma or something.
Oh? and JR?
Technically, the president vetoed health care for the wealthy… those who can afford it. Remember? We want to TAX the wealthy, not give them entitlements.
It does get confusing, no?
Clinton’s friend Hsu could face up to:
20 years for each count of Fraud
20 years X 12 Fraud Counts + 240 Years.
Plus 5 years for each count of Campaign Finance violations.
5 years X 3 Campaign Finance Violations = 15 years.
That’s 255 Years in Jail for Clinton’s friend Hsu!
Serious stuff.
(Can’t wait to see what Clinton Corruption evidence comes out of this trial!)
NEW YORK (Reuters) – Democratic fundraiser Norman Hsu was indicted by a federal grand jury for swindling investors in a $60 million fraud scheme and making illegal donations to U.S. political campaigns.
The 15-count indictment, unsealed on Tuesday in Manhattan federal court, follows similar charges filed in September, in a case that prompted Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton to return $850,000 in campaign contributions.
A lawyer representing Hsu, James Brosnahan, did not immediately return requests for comment.
The indictment charges Hsu, 56, with six counts of mail fraud, six counts of wire fraud and three counts of violating the Federal Election Campaign Act, which limits individual campaign contributions.
If convicted, Hsu could face 20 years in prison on each fraud charge and five years on each campaign finance charge, as well as fines, U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said.
Everyone should have health care.
Rich are getting richer faster.The increase in incomes of the top 1 percent of Americans from 2003 to 2005 ($524.8 billion) exceeded the total income of the poorest 20 percent of Americans ($383.4 billion), according to a new report by the Congressional Budget Office. “On average, incomes for the top 1 percent of households rose by $465,700 each, or 42.6 percent after adjusting for inflation. The incomes of the poorest fifth rose by $200, or 1.3 percent, and the middle fifth increased by $2,400 or 4.3 percent.”
Wow poster — Those kinds of numbers are the sort of thing that spawned the French Revolution!! I wonder if that could happen here as well??
Oh YEAH it can.
J R — Tater isnt even half as smart as Kansas… I doubt seriously if they are the same.. I have my hunches, but I am not saying now..
Vive la revolucionPower to the people.(holds up fist)
Poster C.I think you’re right. I’m not half as smart as Kansas.
:)
Oh I’m just having a little fun.
If the right has to play musical nic’s I can indulge them.
I’ve a good idea who tater is too.
She can’t seem to resist following me about. Long story.
I Know J R
Of course, JR, I could be wrong!!
Well, I am not going to waste any more time on this blog… Totally worthless tonight…
Good night; Good luck; and God Bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings all!!
MERRY XRMAS!!!
It’s because you’re so wealthy, are such a word smith, and because you have such charm.
Oh, well, I guess none of those could be it. It must be my neediness to try to take on a fixer upper project. However, in light of the degree of dysfunction this case, I think it would be classified psychosis rather than neediness.
XTC?
Yes well,
You and your psychosis will have to entertain each other.
Or ExtaC?
Psychosis would seem to be an accurate description of you Tater Tot… very accurate most of the time!! Nice of you tocall it like that!!
Don’t run away too early tonight JR. Between you and Poster C, it’s really like shooting fish in a barrel.
Deadbeats on Welfare going to war for more welfare?
They’d have to actually work to go to war.
Don’t see that happening.
Did I say I was leaving?
I’m watching Lil’ bush.
Be more amusing than that and I MIGHT answer you.
Couple more places to look for your definition Comment Tater.
I’ll get back to ya.
Of all the nasty posts on this blog, they pull that one!
I’m watching Lil’ bush.
Be more amusing than that and I MIGHT answer you.
Posted by: J R | December 15, 2007 at 11:31 PM
Use a mirror JR or you might hurt your neck.
Exta C…
Isn’t that a group that people come out of Chasism addition?
that *helps* ppl…
Comment Tater regrets the omission.
They get Exta C in Rehab.
Max is an incarnation of “kansas”?
Thanks for taking me through the commercial.
Recently overheard…
Blog Mommy!!!! BLOG MOMMY!!!!
They are bein’ MEAN TO ME!!!!!
PLEASE TAKE AWAY THAT BAD THING THOSE MEAN PEOPLE SAID!!!!!!!
I need to go to bed so I can get up early for Church tomorrow.
Gnite, and god bless everyone!
Good night, Max! Have a great day tomorrow.
Don’t ya hate it when people post good night, then they come back, say good night, then never leave?
Ya JR, Kansas is Max. Good one.
Y’all can’t understand that you Blue people are outnumbered by the Red folks, so you imagine that we all be the same Redneck using many names.
Go ahead, think that way if you like.
Lotta posts for one guy though.
Good night and Good luck.
Over and out.
See ya later.
Hasta la vista.
Adios.
“Jeb fall down!”
“Lil bush” is better than anything you con clowns post.
Maxtatersasisms=mtsm for short.Manly remarks from truly manly man smelling people who like to think they do the right manly things so they can feel superior to wimpy liberal pussified types.Must own many manly large caliber weapons drive monster suvs and engage in critical thinking.Spend many manly hours at their manly jobs complaining about socialism while not performing their manly jobs and still being paid by their capitalist employers.Did I leave anything out?
…like shooting fish in a barrel.
Posted by: Comment Tater | December 15, 2007 at 11:28 PM
==============================Same thing posted by Ksgrm the other day. Hmmmmm.
Hey “Max”?
When you had your brain washed, did ya get it waxed too?
And now back to the ongoing performance by the WE Sock Puppet Ballet!
Just baiters and flamers!! \
DNFTT!!! ANY of them!!
Have I ever told any of you about the lws of nature.THE LAWS OF NATUREIf our legislators had any guts at all they would define “when a sperm becomes a human” and settle this never ending squabble.As many of you already know, due to nature’s metamorphosis, a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, a cut worm becomes a moth, a tadpole becomes a frog, a grub worm becomes a June bug and a sperm from a human male has a chance of becoming a human.A caterpillar is not a butterfly, a cut worm is not a moth, a tadpole is not a frog, a grub worm is not a June bug and a sperm from a human is not a human. In fact, after conception, it is nothing more then a loveable parasite in a human female’s body, sucking life from this host body. It will continue to suck life from this host body until it either dies in the womb or the umbilical cord is cut. Until that time (the cord is cut), based on the law of nature, it cannot be called human.