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Non of the Cons are for *anybody* for President!
Okay, “Hank” came forward and expressed his support for tax-and-spender Mike Huckabee, and there are a few Ron Paul zealots. But when I asked Repubs yesterday who they actually *supported* for the GOP nomination, no one responded! The Republic Party has Rudy and Mitt and McCain and Frederick of Hollywood. Certainly one of those frontrunners has a following in the red state of Kansas.
But no one wants to admit it!
WE EDITORS
Still no thread on the CNN Republican debate, where they had that Hilary campaign member who was obviously part of her team?
That was all over the news!
I guess it doesn’t fit your little agenda here…
And the latest news on that loving religion and it’s followers:
Mob bay for teacher’s death
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article531449.ece
America treats it’s teachers differently. When a teacher says something Christians don’t like they just want him fired or beat up but never killed.
Was the Republican Debate only supposed to include questions from Republicans?? I didnt know that was part of the rules?? What does it matter WHO asked the questions?? It’s not like it was the FEMA empoloyees who staged their own private press conference.`
Nathan,
I thought the other day you were not so quick to condemn the Saudi’s for the way they treat their women?? You know, the woman who was raped, and was going to be given lashes, and prison, when she was the Victim??
I could be wrong, but I thought sure you were all for not wanting anybody to condemn the Saudi’s… I guess thats cause Bush and the Saudi’s are good buddies, huh??
(Mis)Understanding a Banking Industry in Transition
Under deregulation the industry became dysfunctional—but economists still won’t revise their anti-regulation script.
William K. Black
This article is from the November/December 2007 issue of Dollars & Sense magazine.The U.S. financial system is, once again, in crisis. Or, more precisely, twin crises—first, huge numbers of defaults among subprime mortgage borrowers, and second, massive losses for the holders of new-fangled investments comprised of bundles of loans of varying risk, including many of those subprime mortgages.
These crises should shock the nation. Our largest, most sophisticated financial institutions have followed business practices that were certain to produce massive losses—practices so imprudent, in precisely the business task (risk management) that is supposed to be their greatest expertise, that they have created a worldwide financial crisis.
Why? Because their CEOs, acting on the perverse incentives created by today’s outrageous compensation systems, engaged in practices that vastly increased their corporations’ risk in order to drive up reported corporate income and thereby secure enormous increases in their own individual incomes. Andhttp://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2007/1107black.html
Green Power plus Ag = money
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/renewable_energy_basics/renewable-energy-and-agriculture-a-natural-fit.html
Richard Heckler; You are quite right, Americans being lazy (read 40 hr. week) or not competitive (read living wage) as a work force, is the mantra for these guys who let jobs and industries fade away. The real root was the compenstion packages of management predicated on share value rather than the P&L, and Wall street who created and porfited from this failed strategy.
Harris News Service Headline: Coal-plant ruling alters Sebelius’ popularity
If I’m reading the infromation correctly the wealthy folks in theeastern part of the state are supporting the Democrats while the POOR folksin the western part are being supported by the Republicans. In other wordsit’s the same old story, Western Kansas sends it’s money toEastern Kansas and the Democrats and their allies in the Left Wing presscontinue to tell the whopping lies about how they are for the “littlepeople” and the “chillren”.
Does anyone else suspect that the “mad bomber” was another planted story by the Clinton campaign. Let’s review the past months news and see if it fits the pattern. Hillary does poorly in a debate and Slick Willie then claims that the “boys” didn’t play fair with the little girl. Next we find out that the campaign has been planting questions at the “news conferences”. Then the Clinton campaign “plants” a questioner in the “unbiased” CNN Debate. As her popularity wanes and the Magic Negro and the Breck Girl cut into her lead, “Bingo” some out of work drunken Democrat wears a fake bomb to one of her campaign offices and the story knocks the other campaings off of the front page. Coincidence? Inquiring minds want to know.
So, “Al B” –
We know who you’re against.
Who are you actually *for* in the Republic Party presidential race?
Yea, inquiring minds want to know what paranoid junkie you get that idea from, Al B…
If you watch the News, you would find out who this guy was, and that he is a mentally ill person…
Why is it that this well known mentally ill person, was never helped to get into some kind of treatment program, and get on some kind of medication??
That is the REAL question here, instead of some paranoid BS about Hillary planting some kind of shill to commit a CRIME (felony even) to promote her campaign…
I am guessing the bomber is gonna be a right wing kook.
Upset over events in his own life, he likely was on a mission from someone with talent on loan from God.
J R — that is just as much speculation as what Al B is posting.. All we know is that the man is mentally ill, and was known to be mentally ill… Let’s not do the speculating thing until more is known
Coincidence? Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Al B | December 01, 2007 at 09:13 AM
So why weren’t you so inquiring when the Whitehouse planted Jeff Gannon in the Whitehouse press corps to ask softball questions? Or how about Bush public appearances where only Bush supporters are allowed?
Max is accounted for right?
Al B, yeah the GOP voters almost always vote against their own best interests.
That’s what happens on BOTH sides when you vote on the stewpud sound bytes they put out.
Divisive “talking points” are now the standard. Problem is that when they get to office, they don’t do what they promised in those talking points anyway, sheesh.
Biggest and best CON GAME in the whole damned world!
There are laws against regular folks getting money and/or jobs the same way.
If any of us told as many lies, half truths and embellishments to the public so they’d throw money at us, well, you know……
Like Hill or not, she’s doing what’s expected of her in this insane form of “democracy”.
When you get more votes and still lose, it ain’t democracy.
It’s a friggen mess.Do away with the electoral preschool people.
If any of us told as many lies, half truths and embellishments to the public so they’d throw money at us, well, you know……
Posted by: TRACY | December 01, 2007 at 09:36 AM
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Umm TRACY, if you did that, they might call you a Televangelist!! LOL
In my little town, NUTBALLS like the Hillary hostage guy don’t live to poorly at all.They get a nut-check, all the drugs they want, (paid by taxes), they got their own nice, new duplex apartments right across from the liquor store.WOW, what a set up.Vision card, medicaid, free drugs, and cash assistance for being insane. The nut’check buys the booze that keeps them crazy till the next check gets here.
Next week we’ll talk about “Mother’s Day” in the ethnic community.”Mother’s Day” is slang for the day that the welfare check gets there. That’s the day that babydaddy gets sex and money.
Chas….HA!I’m christian, I wouldn’t do those things that the TV preachers get away with.
Thats nice to know, Tracy!!
“…so they’d throw money at us, well, you know……”
Reminds me of the old Cher song, “Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves”
Many of our “leaders” may fit that description.
When I was small I believed in santa clausThough I knew it was my dadAnd I would hang up my stocking at christmasOpen my presents and Id be glad
But the last time I played father christmasI stood outside a department storeA gang of kids came over and mugged meAnd knocked my reindeer to the floor
They said:Father christmas, give us some moneyDont mess around with those silly toys.Well beat you up if you dont hand it overWe want your bread so dont make us annoyedGive all the toys to the little rich boys
Dont give my brother a steve austin outfitDont give my sister a cuddly toyWe dont want a jigsaw or monopoly moneyWe only want the real mccoy
Father christmas, give us some moneyWell beat you up if you make us annoyedFather christmas, give us some moneyDont mess around with those silly toys
But give my daddy a job cause he needs oneHes got lots of mouths to feedBut if youve got one, Ill have a machine gunSo I can scare all the kids down the street
Father christmas, give us some moneyWe got no time for your silly toysWell beat you up if you dont hand it overGive all the toys to the little rich boys
Have yourself a merry merry christmasHave yourself a good timeBut remember the kids who got nothinWhile youre drinkin down your wine
The Leftist Libs Hero, Hugo Chavez
Venezuela’s Chavez Says No Oil if U.S. Tries to Meddle in Vote
Saturday, December 01, 2007
CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez urged supporters to approve constitutional changes that he said could keep him in power for life and threatened to cut off oil exports to the United States if it tries to meddle in Sunday’s vote.
“Oil will not go out to the United States,” Chavez said, warning the opposition if they take to streets to deny a legitimate victory, “they’re going to regret it.”
Venezuela was the fourth largest oil exporter to the United States in 2006
Hmmmm interesting story here:
The Bird Feeder
I bought a bird feeder. I hungit on my back porch and filledit lovingly with seed. Within aweek we had hundreds of birdstaking advantage of thecontinuous flow of free andeasily accessible food.
But then the birds startedbuilding nests in the boardsof the patio, above the table,and next to the barbecue.
Then came the poop. It waseverywhere: on the patio tile,the chairs, the table …everywhere!
Then some of the birds turnedmean. They would dive bombme and try to peck me eventhough I had fed them out ofmy own pocket.
And others birds wereboisterous and loud. Theysat on the feeder and squawkedand screamed at all hours ofthe day and night, anddemanded that I fill it
when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn’t evensit on my own back porchanymore. So I took down thebird feeder, and in three daysthe birds were gone. I cleanedup their mess and took downthe many nests they had builtall over the patio.
Soon, the back yard was like itused to be … quiet, serene andno one demanding their rightsto a free meal.
Now let’s see … making a very long jump … Maybe it’s time to tell the government to take down the bird feeder??
“Oil will not go out to the United States,” Chavez said, warning the opposition if they take to streets to deny a legitimate victory, “they’re going to regret it.”
Call his bluff. His power comes from the money obtained from his control of Venezuelan oil fields.
If he does what he says, the USA stops supporting a dictator. I can live with that.
Tracy! This country is NOT and has NEVER been a Democracy. It is a Representative Republic. If you want it to be a true deomcracy then all you have to do is convince a majority in Congress and two thirds of the state legislatures and bingo you have your democracy. God forbid that everhappens or this country will succomb to Mob Rule. I assume from your comments though that you now accept that George W. Bush won the 2000 election fair and square and it was not “stolen”.
Democrats Strip Michigan of All Delegates for Scheduling Early Primary
Saturday, December 01, 2007
VIENNA, Va. — Democratic leaders voted Saturday to strip Michigan of all its delegates to the national convention next year as punishment for scheduling an early presidential primary in violation of party rules.
Michigan, with 156 delegates, has scheduled a Jan. 15 primary. Democratic Party rules prohibit states other than Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina from holding nominating contests before Feb. 5.
Florida was hit with a similar penalty in August for scheduling a Jan. 29 primary.Michigan officials anticipated the action by the Democratic National Committee’s rules panel. But Michigan Democratic Chairman Mark Brewer said before the vote that he didn’t think the delegates would be lost for good. He expects the Democratic presidential nominee will insist the state’s delegates be seated at the convention.
Nevertheless, Saturday’s vote further diminishes the significance of Michigan’s Democratic primary. All the major Democratic candidates have already agreed not to campaign in either Michigan or Florida because the states violated party rules. And in Michigan, most of the major candidates won’t even be on the ballot.
Democratic candidates John Edwards, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson and Joe Biden have withdrawn their names from the ballot to satisfy Iowa and New Hampshire, which were unhappy Michigan was challenging their leadoff status on the primary calendar.
That leaves Hillary Rodham Clinton, Dennis Kucinich, Chris Dodd, Mike Gravel and “uncommitted,” as the choices on the Democratic ballot in Michigan.
The DNC rules panel voted by voice vote, with only a few dissents.
Michigan officials defended their early primary, saying it helps provide geographic, racial and economic diversity early in the primary calendar. They also complained that other states that were allowed to hold early votes were receiving preferential treatment.
“I think it is unconscionable that we continue to grant special treatment to some states in this process,” Brewer told the DNC rules panel.
Both political parties have been struggling to control their chaotic calendars.
The Republicans have stripped half the delegates from New Hampshire, Florida, South Carolina, Michigan and Wyoming for scheduling early primaries and caucuses. Republican rules don’t allow any states to hold nominating contests before Feb. 5.
The Republicans, however, haven’t set any restrictions on campaigning in states that violate party rules. That has some Democrats concerned that they could lose votes in Florida, the fourth largest state, and Michigan, the eighth largest.
No. 2 House GOP Leader Pounces on Key Democrat Murtha’s Remark That ‘Surge Is Working’
WASHINGTON — No. 2 House Republican Roy Blunt challenged Democrats on Friday to pass a $50 billion war spending package, pouncing on new remarks by Democratic Rep. John Murtha who said, “I think the surge is working.”
“With one of the Democrats’ leading war critics now saying the surge in Iraq is working, it’s difficult to understand why the majority continues to push an irresponsible withdrawal plan that jeopardizes critical support funding for our troops,” Blunt said in a statement he released Friday.
Blunt, of Missouri, then turned to the $50 billion “bridge” funding bill to finance the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan through the spring. Congressional Republicans and the White House have been calling on Democrats to remove the restrictive language in the spending bill, and said that without the money, the Pentagon will have to make drastic changes in its budget that could, among other things, reduce training for troops heading to Iraq.
“The stakes are too high for this Congress to remain idle on this critical funding bill. … It’s time for the majority to stop playing games and deliver a well-deserved gift in time for Christmas to our men and women in uniform: a clean supplemental funding bill,” Blunt said.Murtha, one of the most ardent critics of President Bush’s war policy, on Friday issued a statement softening his assessment of the troop surge, calling it “a window of opportunity.” Murtha is one of the most powerful House Democrats when it comes to war funding.
The Pennsylvania Democrat gave qualified but likely his most glowing remarks Thursday about the Iraq war.
“I think the surge is working, but that’s only one element,” said Murtha, who chairs the defense appropriations subcommittee. “And the surge is working for a couple of different reasons. And one reason is the increase in troops.”
(cont’d) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314203,00.html
Nice work Trollboy. Too bad you left the context of Murtha’s statements out of your post.
Murtha continues:
“The military surge has created a window of opportunity for the Iraqi government,” Murtha’s statement read. “Unfortunately, the sacrifice of our troops has not been met by the Iraqi government and they have failed to capitalize on the political and diplomatic steps that the surge was designed to provide.
“The fact remains that the war in Iraq cannot be won militarily, and that we must begin an orderly redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq as soon as practicable.”
Murtha, speaking to reporters Thursday in his hometown of Johnstown, Pa., mixed in renewed criticism of the Bush administration’s management of the Iraq war, saying it was waged with too few troops, and that it is too costly.
“We can no longer afford to spend $14 billion a month on this war and let our readiness slip,” Murtha said.
But, “If you put more forces in, things will work out,” he said.
“But the thing is, the Iraqis have to do this themselves,” he added. “We can’t win it for them in Afghanistan or Iraq, and provinces they’ve (Iraqi forces) taken over, we’ve done better. We can’t win.”
“The Leftist Libs Hero, Hugo Chavez”
Posted by kansas.
Under what neocon tinpot umbrella does that fly? Hugo is a self-absorbed tinpot dictator, who will stop at nothing to become ruler for life. If the people of Venezuela buy into that, you will see mass executions of his enemies. He will probably stop oil to the United States anyway, as he can sell it to India, China and Japan.
All the more reason to start a Manhattan Project on alternate, renewable energy. Then we won’t need morons like him to sell us anything.
OR
We could actually start drilling and refining more of our own oil.
Tracy…you call yourself a Christian with that judgmental attitude? Maybe you need to come to work with me someday and I’ll show you the real face of those who have severe and persistant mental illness..not one of my patients fit the sterotype you’ve so “expertly” have thrown out on this forum.It’s people like you that feed the fear, hostility, and intolerance many feel toward those who suffer with mental illness. You are wrong and you should be ashamed of your bigotry.
3% of the worlds oil reserves Nathan. That’s all we have.
We can’t drill our way outta this one.
Invention, innovation, and most of all CONSERVATION. These are cheaper and more productive and proactive than war.
Chas…and who would be the first to have their benefits cut? The elderly blind man who wants to live independantly in his house rather than a nursing home?The shy, withdrawn schizophrenic who you see walking down the street with his shopping cart full of junk?The retarded diabetic who can’t manage his own care so he has home health nurses who help him do it?Remember: “There but for the grace of God go I”…And you say you’re a minister?
I’d love to play this morning, but I have to go dip into the trough of your tax money to take care of my patients who need me.
Nice work Trollboy. Too bad you left the context of Murtha’s statements out of your post.Posted by: Tom | December 01, 2007 at 10:23 AM
I had to leave something for Libs like you Tom, so you could act as the official ‘Murtha Apologist Mouthpiece” when Murtha says one thing out of one side of his mouth and another thing on the other. :)
Mr. J M Walker,
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/346jorji.asp
http://www.rethinkvenezuela.com/downloads/08-12-04solidarity.htm
Want some more links? Or is two enough to pull your head out of your ass?
Nope, Hugo Chavez is the hero of your heroes.
Max is accounted for right?Posted by: J R | December 01, 2007 at 09:32 AM
I’m here JR. Ya miss me?
Haven’t seen Ed Friedeman around though. You see the guy’s picture? Looks like he could be an Ed. Hmmmm…..
Invention, innovation, and most of all CONSERVATION. These are cheaper and more productive and proactive than war.-JR
Yes CONSERVATION. that’ll happen only when the price goes higher then people can afford.
Who will boycott ALL gas stations no matter what? any volunteers?
Didn’t think so.
Actually rlf, I think they call the price of gas going up beyond affordability a gas crisis not conservation. :D
Printing his FULL quote makes me an “apologist?”
Okay. Let’s see. I’m gonna be a Trollboy apologist (with the original vulgarity redacted, of course):
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KMA Tom, I apologized for it as it was a joke. I’ve had it up to here with you and kfg double standard on the blog.
I did not threaten to break in your office, I jokingly said WE (as in all of us) should rifle Tom’s office while’s he’s gone.
Only an uptight pr*ck like yourself wouldn’t have understood it wasn’t a joke.
You put your email on the blog. You put your address on the blog. You put your real name on the blog. The only person you have to blame is yourself, for being so dumb, you can’t pull your underwear out of your own *ss.
so Tom,
KISS MY *SS
You’ve shown the world what a true *ss hole you are and you deserve nothing.
Posted by: Kansas | October 29, 2007 at 10:35 AM
I myself use gasoline very sparingly. I consolidate my trips so I make fewer of them. There is a large grocery store a little fewer than 800 steps (yup I counted) from my house. So I walk or ride my bike there.
There are all sorts of very easy and painless ways to conserve.
I have a whole folder full of “apologetic” material. I think I’ll save it for a rainy day, though.
Oh wait…
Latest Hillary Criminal Fundraiser:
Anyone here of this Scruggs guy? He may go to prison for 75 Years! (Another friend of Hillary’s)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-scruggs30nov30,1,6319390.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
The Associated Press reported Thursday that a fundraiser for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) scheduled for Dec. 15 at Scruggs’ Oxford, Miss., home had been canceled by her presidential campaign. Former President Clinton had been slated to appear.
Attorney Richard F. “Dickie” Scruggs once vowed to use his expertise, stature and money to fight the insurance industry’s alleged mishandling of homeowners’ claims after Hurricane Katrina.
But now he may be fighting for his freedom.
This week, the lawyer was indicted by a federal grand jury, accused of attempting to bribe a state judge presiding over a lawsuit involving millions of dollars in legal fees. He and four other defendants, including his lawyer son, could face up to 75 years in prison if convicted.
Here’s the AP version of the Cancelled Clinton fundraiser to be held by Scruggs – the indicted soon to be convict.
Scruggs was just another corrupt and RICH Democrat.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gmJa7KBpF_nUNywR5fVARTdvaR0gD8T87AEG0
Miss. Lawyer Accused of Bribe AttemptBy MICHAEL KUNZELMAN – 20 hours ago
NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Richard “Dickie” Scruggs has carefully crafted an image as an aw-shucks country lawyer who champions the little guy in David-and-Goliath legal battles.
But in truth, Scruggs is himself a giant — a legend of the Mississippi bar, a supremely well-connected political insider, and one of the richest men in one of the poorest states in the Union, having made hundreds of millions of dollars from taking on Big Tobacco and asbestos and insurance companies.
Max,
I have no love for Hillary Clinton – she voted for the Iraq war, and plans to continue it – but convicting Scruggs before his trial is a little over the top, don’t you agree?
Hillary’s 3rd Term in the White House?
http://www.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2007/Nov-30-Fri-2007/opinion/18230401.html
Co-president Clinton seeking her own term
Does my wife, by virtue of her 20 years of challenging association with me, possess the relevant experience to become a newspaper columnist on politics?
And consider the case of the service station mechanic down the way. He’s been ill lately. Maybe I could get his wife to change my car’s points and plugs.
If, that is, Hillary Clinton is to be believed on the matter of a wife getting job-qualifying credit for her husband’s experience.
It’s indeed odd that Clinton asserts — and is generally conceded — a clear advantage in relevant experience over her Democratic rivals.
No Tom.
Anytime a Republican is accused of something, not even indicted, they get convicted by the press.
It should work both ways, dontcha think?
Max,
Stop reading Fox “News.”
This writer from Pahrump makes a good point. But, he doesn’t understand that Democrats are NOT voting for Hillary based on HER qualifications.
Democrats vote for Hillary because 1)They think they are voting for Bill, getting him back in the White House to call the shots from behind the curtain. And 2)Because she is a Democrat.
People voting for Hillary to get Bill there should realize that Bill already had bypass operation #1, and Bill may not be around for long. And who would be surprised if Hillary threw the Bum out after she was in office?
Uh, gee, Max, she canceled. Do you want to get into a who’s who of crooked political fund raisers, both Democrat and Republican?
Crooks is crooks; doesn’t matter what they call themselves. Max, your argument carries no weight.
Stop reading Fox? Did I post a Fox link above?
More from Pahrump Valley Times (not Fox!):
http://www.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2007/Nov-30-Fri-2007/opinion/18230401.html
The point is that Hillary presumes to get credited with relevant experience for what her husband achieved. And she seeks and seems to get that credit singularly, even historically.
No other president’s wife, save perhaps Eleanor Roosevelt, would presume to lay any remotely similar claim, much less be conceded it. Laura Bush does not suggest that she possesses that kind of experience. Her mother-in-law didn’t. Nor did Nancy Reagan, or Rosalyn Carter, or Betty Ford.
Those were, or are, strong, intelligent and competent women. But they didn’t operate as West Wing co-presidents. Whatever influence they had — and it was surely great at times — came personally through those powerfully intimate spousal channels.
These women didn’t take charge of health care. They didn’t get sold by their husbands as the other half of a two-for-one presidential deal.
Hillary stands before us to ask for an exclusive third term of a presidency she essentially claims to have shared for two previous terms with a guy who was the vote-getting front man.
When Clinton speaks of health care, she does so as one who actually once tried to run it, and perhaps learned valuable and applicable lessons. When she speaks of trade, she does so as one who didn’t want her husband to press NAFTA. When she ponders foreign relations, or the pressures between third-way and old-way domestic Democratic politics, she does so as one who has pondered them in active and essentially equal partnership with an internationally popular former president who has long navigated that tight rope between third-way and old-way Democratic politics.
Of all the Democratic candidates, Clinton offers the least experience in terms of a formal resume. But, off paper, she has the most actual and practical experience.
She can’t actually write on that resume — co-president, 1993-2001. But she can plainly imply it.
And a lot of people seem to be buying it.
Mary you are wrong and should be ashamed of jumping to conclusions.I personally know the people I’m speaking of, and every bit IS TRUE!
You’ve never been really “street-wise” or you would know too.
The people you speak of I do not know, therefore I do not speak of them. Anyway…unless you know these folks, don’t worry about it.
Shame on you for being self rightous and condescending. HA!
You may know what goes on inside your little world, but there’s a whole dark side out there you know nuttin about. These people are not severly ill.
They are playing the system.You are wrong and you should be ashamed of your judging me.
Max,
If you get to be snarky and sarcastic, so do I.
Oh heck Tom, I thought snarky and sarcastic writing was required by the blog rules!
So I walk or ride my bike there [grocer store].
How does that gallon of milk, loaf of bread, dozen eggs and bunch of bananas stay secured on your bike rack? The next person I see riding their bike to get groceries will be my first.
You must eat like a bird if you use your bike or walk for all of your grocery trips. But good for you if you do. Try doing that for the average American family of four.
And anyway, you’re linking to opinion pieces, not straight news pieces. It’s not what I would consider “objective” by any standard.
Daily Kos (Loved by Liberals, loathed by non-thinkers) readers have named the Rudy sex fiasco:
Sex On the City
Close runner up was:
69/11
Surprisingly RFL, I agree with that one point made by JR.
It IS possible to walk more in the US, and even to feed a family of 4 by walking to the store, if you live within a mile of the store. And that is the problem. American Surburbia is so spread out, we waste prime farmland here with every new foundation dug.
Why don’t we rebuild from the inner cities out?
In Europe, they have a much more compact use of land. In cities and towns you still find corner grocery stores and small businesses. (No SuperWalmart’s there)
I know people who don’t own cars and those who do drive very infrequently. On the walk from work to home, they may stop at the corner store every day, for the groceries they need for the next day.
They also have good public transportation and you might take a bus to the train station and back to/from work.
Not such a bad approach.
So, “Max” –
Just who are you backing in the Republic Party primaries?
Tom, name ONE poster on this blog who IS objective.
Opinions don’t matter?
We should all stop posting then.
Well gosh rfl how DID Americans survive before they could run the family truckster to the Wal mart on a moments notice?
My family is only two but we get by just fine. More frequent foot/bike trips to the store also means I catch lots of bargains and close outs.
Max,
Why don’t we rebuild from the inner cities out?-Max
That is the point I am driving at.While some (a paltry few), like JR, live within walking distance to a grocery store, it is just not the case for just about everyone because we have built our cities assuming cheap energy. So now, we are stuck in the rut of consuming oil because that is infrastructure that has been built for us. If we want to conserve, we have to change our neighborhoods and the way we live. There’s just no way around it.
Talking about conserving is lip service when are cities are built they way they are.
Yup sprawl is a real problem Max.
And it’s dumb as hell.
Well gosh rfl how DID Americans survive before they could run the family truckster to the Wal mart on a moments notice?
-JR
They got milk from the cow out back. Duh
In this order MonkeyHawk, though I like all 3:
1. Thompson2. Romney3. Giuliani
All promise to keep taxes low, to fight out-of-control government spending, to not expand Socialist programs that we cannot afford, to keep a strong national defense, to secure our borders.
Giuliani has 12 points of focus and I agree with all of those. (Check his website) Rudy has made Energy Independence a top objective.
Romney has promised to veto spending bills that exceed inflation, and he did veto spending bills in MA.
Thompson has a consistent conservative voting record when he was in the Senate. This guy from TN worked his way up, working regular jobs like Truck Driver, before completing law school. Thompson was the first to touch the 3rd Rail issue of Social Security and promises to address solving that problem. Thompson is the strongest supporter of the 2nd Amendment of all the candidates.
RFL/JR, suburban sprawl is a problem.
Energy solutions will not be completed overnight, however we need to START at some point.
The American Cropland Crisis is a book I read 20+ years ago. The author was farsighted enough to have been talking about land conservation in the 1970’s. America has some of the best prime farmland in the world.
Yet topsoil is quickly eroding off the intensively farmed fields and growing surburbia is taking the land away forever.
Once a subdivision is built, the bulldozers tear off the topsoil, and it is gone FOREVER.
I hear no one in Government addressing the destruction of prime farmland today.
Max
One of Al Gore’s key “talking points” if you will was urban sprawl. It is not an issue that gets lots of attention though. But as you noted, it should.
Looks like Tom is still pointing to his “boo boo” that occurred on his ego and is showing every passer-by at every opportunity so he can get the maximum amount of sympathy.
If Tom can’t get his point across, he’ll put out the “Oh! big bad kansas hurt me! boo hoo! boo hoo! see? It’s right here! boo hoo! boo hoo! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!”
And so forth and so on, ad nauseum , the pain that has been inflicted on Tom must have left a deep scar or not. :D
Sorry you have to whine and cry so much in public Tom, but quite frankly it’s an embarrassment to the adults of the blog.
Max, JR, rfl, urban sprawl is most definitely an issue that has, to date, been largely ignored. Max, I’ve read the work you cite; very far sighted in its contents. As you say, once the top soil is gone, it’s gone.
We spent some time discussing these issues in a law school course I took back in the late 1970s, more from the perspective of appropriate zoning, etc., regulation than from the ecological or environmental perspective. It (this discussion) helped form some of the beliefs on this issue I hold, including the concept of building from the inside out, better planning in general, the availability of reliable public transportation, etc.
As I know you folks are aware, the “regentrification” of inner city neighborhoods brings with it problems of its own, including without limitation the need to deal with low income residents of these areas as the “money” comes back into the same. I still hold the belief that these issues can and will be more easily solved than those related to issues presented by sprawl, e.g., which include not only loss of top soil but also the disruption of natural watersheds through paving, etc., increased demand on what are becoming more obviously scarce water resources (just have to have that big, green yard, right), public services in general (fire, police, other emergency services). I’ve no answers, just recognition of some of the issues.
Everyone have a good weekend here, too.
Vaughn, finally I found someone else who read The American Cropland Crisis! Didn’t sell too many copies I guess.
While I dislike too much government regulation, I see no other way to save prime farm land for current and future generations. There is too much profit in converting prime farm land to residential and business use. And thus, state and local governments are not maintaining the kind of zoning regulations to stop the destruction of the land.
Not sure how or if a National Land Tax or National Sales Tax could be levied against the sale of prime farmland being sold for development. Don’t know how the Feds would have the authority to mandate certain zoning requirements either.
Yes, some growth needs to be allowed, but there doesn’t appear to be any control at this point.
The profit problem:
1. Farmer sells their $4,000/acre prime farm land to a developer for $20,000/acre.
2. Developer divides up each acre into 1/4 acre lots and sells these for $50,000 each. That is, $200,000/acre. (And thus the Developers are so generously able to offer to pay for some of the street/sewer infrastructure)
3. Towns/Cities then bring in more property tax revenue on the $200,000 fully developed lots. (House $150,000 + $50,000 lot). Brings in $4,000 in property taxes on each 1/4 acre residential lot as compared to the $20/acre tax on farmland.
Too much profit motive to stop farmland destruction.
What if there was a $10,000/acre Federal sales tax on prime farm land sold for development?
Land conservation (yawwwwn) not an exciting topic, because America still has the perception that we have endless land and open spaces.
Incremental changes are invisible to those who cannot see the future.
Tracy! This country is NOT and has NEVER been a Democracy. It is a Representative Republic. If you want it to be a true deomcracy then all you have to do is convince a majority in Congress and two thirds of the state legislatures and bingo you have your democracy. God forbid that everhappens or this country will succomb to Mob Rule. I assume from your comments though that you now accept that George W. Bush won the 2000 election fair and square and it was not “stolen”.
Posted by: Al B
Actually, we’re a Democratic Republic.
White Elephant,
It’s two thirds of BOTH chambers of Congress, and three-quarters of the state legislatures.
What’s really sad is like Max says, once the land is developed there is no going back.
OTHERWISE, this problem is set to fix itself.
As the suburban boomers age, they will HAVE to centralize in retirement communities and nearer to facilities and infrastructure. Health and convenience factors will force it.
Population wise, that will be sprawl in reverse. But too late for the land.
Hard to restrict what people can do with their land. BUT credits and incentives could be offered for folks to live in more developed, older areas.
How the Iraq war might play out …By DALE MCFEATTERSGUEST COLUMNIST
Sometime between 2009 and 2017, the former president is watching TV, as it happens, with NBC’s “Today” on the scene.
Meredith: “After a tumultuous welcome here at Baghdad airport, the presidential motorcade is about to leave for the Green Zone. It’s a sign of how much things have changed that the president is riding in an open convertible, which the cheering populace has almost buried in flowers.
“I don’t believe it, Matt, but President Hillary Clinton is being welcomed as a liberator.”
Matt: “They’re coming down Route Irish, once considered the most dangerous road in Iraq. Now, of course, it’s the William Jefferson Clinton Highway in honor of the president’s global-goodwill ambassador and the work he did in her early difficult days in office shoring up support for the war.
“As an interesting footnote, the motorcade is now passing a popular local falafel stand, part of a chain started by former cleric Moktada al-Sadr after he gave up the Mahdi Army and radical Islam. Indeed, I believe that’s he on the sidewalk waving an American flag.”
Meredith: “We’re now coming onto the grounds of the presidential palace where President Clinton will be greeted by Prime Minister Siddiq, voted into office in an election that U.N. observers called ‘even cleaner than Iceland’s.’ He is waiting beneath the giant statue of Gen. David Petraeus, a popular backdrop for wedding-party photos.
“Matt, Prime Minister Siddiq is departing from the official welcome program. It looks like Hillary Clinton is winning the Publishers Clearinghouse sweepstakes. He’s presenting her with a huge check. It’s for half a trillion dollars. Let’s listen to the Iraqi leader.”
Siddiq: “It’s money from our oil revenue and just a small payment — the first of many — to thank you for all the money you Americans spent to free and restore our country.”
Matt: “The two leaders are now going up the steps to the official guesthouse. There will be a light dinner and then they are off to the Baghdad Stadium for the big Barbra Streisand benefit concert to combat global warming.
“And now here’s Al with the weather from Anbar Province … ”
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/341649_mcfeattersonline02.html
Hard to restrict what people can do with their land. BUT credits and incentives could be offered for folks to live in more developed, older areas.Posted by: J R | December 01, 2007 at 01:20 PM
Exactly. Those credits for rebuilding or moving to an urban area could be paid for with a sales tax on prime farmland that is converted to residential or business use at $10,000/acre.
Trollboy,
If your fevered imaginings lead you to believe that you somehow have the power to hurt my “feelings” with your rantings, go ahead and imagine. It’s all you’re going to get.
No, Trollboy, I post your little missives and loveletters to me for their entertainment value. You’re such an amazingly transparent liar and hypocrite that every time you accuse someone else of your worst flaws / only redeeming qualities (heh), I can’t help but show you your mirror.
The other day when I reposted your October 29 meltdown, you said I was lying, that you had typed the asterisks in, not me. This is, of course, yet another of your lies told in a desperate attempt to save some kind of “face” here on the blog. It’s too late for that, though – I think everyone here knows what a nasty little creature you are, and that your nasty little agenda has nothing more to it than the “arm flailing” you so often accuse others of doing.
I don’t know what your damage is, or _why_ your damage is, but don’t you think it’s time to get treatment?
Now the daily degradation of the WE Blog begins again.
I’ve been reading this thing for a few days. A few good posts keep me interested. 90% of the posts turn into flames though.
If this is blogging, now I know why I’m not addicted like many here appear to be.
Reminds me of the playground in my grade school days.
Maybe the kids are blogging instead of playing outside.
And so the children grow fat, lazy, and stupid.
Chris,
It’s much more like Jr. High than gradeschool.
Kansas posted:
You put your email on the blog. The only person you have to blame is yourself, for being so dumb, you can’t pull your underwear out of your own *ss.
so Tom,
KISS MY *SS
*****
So who should we blame for putting *m*c*u*r@*o*.com on the WEBlog?
In a few seconds, we’ll get this from Kansas–
“Oh! big bad JM hurt me! boo hoo! boo hoo! see? It’s right here! boo hoo! boo hoo! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!”
blah blah blah from the Lib juveniles as usual.
So, who is going to win MU-OU?
I haven’t posted this thread since 1:20 there “kansas”.
If you have a problem. I’ll help ya solve it.
Many of you will recall that on July 8, 1947, almost exactly 60 years ago, witnesses claim that an unidentified flying object (UFO) with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep and cattle ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico. This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered up by the U.S. Air Force and other federal agencies and organizations.However, what you may NOT know is that in the month of March 1948, nine months after that historic day, the following people were born:Albert A. Gore, Jr.Hillary RodhamJohn F. KerryWilliam J. ClintonHoward DeanNancy PelosiDianne FeinsteinCharles E. SchumerBarbara BoxerSee what happens when aliens breed with sheep? I certainly hope thispiece of information clears up a lot of things for you!
Al Gore was born 3/31/48
Hillary Rodham Clinton was born 10/26/47
John Kerry was born 12/11/43
Bill Clinton was born 8/19/46
Need I go on, or shall we just KNOW for a fact Hank is posting false information?
Evidently, lindainks does not like the joke Hank. :D
Thanks for your response, “Max” –
Now let’s look at your choices. You wrote:
“In this order MonkeyHawk, though I like all 3:
1. Thompson2. Romney3. Giuliani
All promise to keep taxes low, to fight out-of-control government spending, to not expand Socialist programs that we cannot afford, to keep a strong national defense, to secure our borders.
>> Oh really? Like we can afford George WMD Bush’s half-a-trillion dollar adventure in Iraq?
Giuliani has 12 points of focus and I agree with all of those. (Check his website) Rudy has made Energy Independence a top objective.
>> How? More drilling? Or conservation? Or alternative fuels? It’s really not enough to say “energy independence” without considering the ways to achieve the goal. It’s like Miss America candidates expressing their belief in “peace and understanding.” Nice thought, but there’s gotta be a how involved somewhere, doesn’t there?
Romney has promised to veto spending bills that exceed inflation, and he did veto spending bills in MA.
>> And Mitt promoted and signed a universal health care mandate in Massachusetts he now denies; a health care plan that closely echoes Senator Clinton’s healthcare proposal. We all know how you love Hillary, “Max.” (Sorry to attack your man Mitt with mentions of his record. We all know he’ll change his mind if he thinks it’ll work out for him.)
Thompson has a consistent conservative voting record when he was in the Senate. This guy from TN worked his way up, working regular jobs like Truck Driver, before completing law school. Thompson was the first to touch the 3rd Rail issue of Social Security and promises to address solving that problem. Thompson is the strongest supporter of the 2nd Amendment of all the candidates.
>> Yeah, Frederick of Hollywood knocked up his girlfriend when he was 17, then traded her in for a trophy wife later on. But his vision of Heaven is a gun show. That’s you all over, “Max.”
It’s all about guns for you, “Max,” isn’t it?
Your #3 favorite Republic Party candidate, Rudy, was pro-gun control before he was against it.
Your #2 favorite Republic Party candidate, Mitt, was pro-gay before he was against them.
Your #1 favorite Republic Party candidate, Frederick of Hollywood, will recite anything that’s written on the cue cards. And drive his old red pick-up a block and a half from his campaign appearances to his limo.
Thanks, “Max,” for responding.
Monkey I did respond yesterday. You must have missed it. I see good and bad in all of the candidates.
Romney loses me I think because of his Mass.Healthcare sys. It gets to close to national healthcare.
Guillani is probably the most qualified but comes with so much baggage that I don’t feel he will be able to mount a comprehensive campaign.
McCain is a man whose time and come and gone. I also feel that his wife is much as Colin Powells was when the decision was made for him not to seek the preidency. She is fragile and the stress would be to much I fear.
Fred Thompson has what it takes but being the good southern gentleman he is he comes across as not motivated when he really has some very good ideas and plans. He for me has the most potential when you look at his previous successes. He is like the almost ran that if he ever hit the campaign trail in earnest will surprise us all.
Huckabee has me on the fair tax interest but loses me on the illegals children and education.
That said I am glad there is time to make up my mind slowly because there is a lot of information to process.
Hank can’t even be original with material.
The original run of that joke had Rush, Hannity, bush, cheney etc. as the product of aliens and sheep.
And it was much more plausible that way.
Hank didn’t change a comma except for the names. So much for Republican humor.
By the way my trip to Iowa was cut short because the ice storm caused the event I was attending to be canceled. They have a real mess there and it is very wide spread. Oh well I am home in time to watch OU (i hope) beat Mizzou.
JR I give you the joke is old but they was a spot of truth. Al Gore was born in March ‘48. Now we know why he is so strange. He is an alien.
That you think Gore is strange is not much an indictment grm.
“ksgrm” –
Guess you got through the winter storm okay. Good for you.
So you’re undecided. Fine.
I was for a long time re: the Democratic candidates. I can certainly live with any of the Democratic prospects, but favor John Edwards.
The thing that keeps coming back to me is how Republic Party advocates are so loathe to come out *for* any of their candidates. I suspect I know why. Because whomever gets the GOP nomination will be suddenly transformed into the second-coming by the Faux News Channel and talk-radio pundits, regardless of who it is.
And non of you Cons want to be on the record as opposing Mitt or Rudy or Frederick of Hollywood.
You will oppose any Democrat. We know that. Fine.
But there’s nobody the Cons are *for* because you’ve forced yourselves into a corner that is only anti-. You’re against Hillary, you’re against Obama, you’re against Kucinich… Fine.
You don’t need a reason. You have every right as an American to be against anybody you want. But when it becomes so vividly obvious that no one in the Republic Party actually can come up with a platform you’re *for,* it’s obvious that so-called “conservatism” has nothing to offer the American people.
MonkeyHawk, you didn’t read my post above.
I am for:
1. Thompson2. Romney3. Giuliani
Any of em perfect? No.
Thompson is the best. As far as his personal life goes, who cares? You got some saint on the Dem side?
Romney changed his mind about gun control and abortion. Hillary changes her mind about every issue EVERY day.
Giuliani, not a good record on gun control either. And he’s on your Democrats side for abortions and taxpayer funded abortions – and civil unions for gays. You should like that Monkey!
Now MonkeyHawk, tell me why you are for any of your Dem candidates. Or are you just against Bush?
(BTW – Bush ain’t running again!)
Monkey I agree we are both in a stew. Kuchinich and Ron Paul to me are just alike. They sound good but when you look behind the facade there is nothing there. You are right I would never vote for Hillary. She scares me. I remember the things dems like to forget about her. The Rose Law Firm files that just ’showed’ up one day in the exercise room at the White House. The way she fired the entire Travel Staff to put her own people in which was her perrogative but that wasn’t enough she went after Dale, the director personally. The FBI files her security man, ex bar bouncer, got for her. I could go on but I think you get the drift.
Obama I really don’t know enough about yet. I like the way he handles himself in debates. Doesn’t let himself get rattled, very often, stay away from the personal attacks, lets his wife handle those, but overall seems a little young and inexperienced but would definitely be a change.
Edwards. I just can’t respect a man who pushes division of classes the way he does while living in a virtual mansion and getting $400 haircuts. He has every right to live as he chooses but when he uses his daddy’s mill experience as his tie to the working class I find that disenguious.
Doud is to much business as ususl.
One problem I think a majority of the dems are facing now is their hatred for Bush. Hopefully this hatred won’t push them into a poor decision because they haven’t realized they aren’t running against Bush.
But as I said it is a long time until the election and I am still learning.
Most interesting the way you carry on about the Dem candidates… and only mentin Ron Paul as he is linked in ideas to Kucinich…
But, yet, why was there such foolish hype over a Dem questioner at the Rep debate on Wednesday nite??
I am seeing very little difference in what you posted here, Ksgrm..
Just a thought…
Time for football Later y’all!
Chas Monkey and I were discussing the merits of both set of candidates. You came in the middle of a conversation – maybe informing yourself first would be helpful in the future.
If you don’t know what the difference in is planting questions from the opposition party in what was supposed to be an informative and republican debate then maybe you should call the bigwigs at CNN who have been mea culping all over them selfs ever since it was dicovered.
The issue of sprawl can be addressed through zoning. Good luck with that though, as folks just fight county wide zoning like hell. They dont want the “gummit” to tell them what they can do with the land.
I’m astounded that Max favors a huge sales tax on prime farmland. Prime by what definition? Zoning could just regulate it without the tax. The wealthy or about to be wealthy will just pay the tax and do as they please, without regard to the land.
Why do I just have a feeling that Max would fight countywide zoning tooth and nail? It is so much easier and more fair than a tax.
I totally support walkable neighborhoods and small cities. I totally support development from the inner city outward.
Another great book on the subject is Edge Cities, but the author’s name eludes me without google. It is city design and the suburbs that have fostered the car culture we have today, and all the health and environment problems associated.
As for how folks survived before they could go to wally world…
Am I the only one old enough to remember the milkman? Milk, eggs, cream, ice cream, etc. delivered to your door daily. Ice was delivered daily. MANY groceries were delivered before self serve groceries became popular. Hell, I remember when DRY CLEANING was delivered.
Schwann’s anyone?
I’m not sure if those delivieries were more fuel efficient than all of us driving our own cars.
And I’d LOVE to bring back the days of the “green grocers” and fruitstands like they STILL have in New York. Real butcher shops.
And for damn sure I’d love the return of the days when farmers brought their eggs and cream to town to sell or trade. Even milk was brought to town for the local creamery cooperative to ship to the cities.
I guess everything old could be new again…
I knew you wouldnt address the subject of my post, but instead opt out for another of your normal, half/baked ad hominems!!
You are a real work of art!! And yet you think you are SO smucking fart!!
No problem, KFG
Hey Farm Girl,
Joyce and I have owned a time share in Branson for around 20 years. We’ve never stayed in it.
We have used it to trade for weeks all over the world. What’s neat is going to the local markets each day and shop for the evening meal.
The various islands in the Caribbean, the Canary Islands, Mexico, even a little village in northern England with its little specialized shops all hold fond memories.
And yes, mom let me drink the cream off the top of one of the milk bottles after each delivery! Our usual delivery was four quarts of milk, one cottage cheese, two eggs and if we had the money extra, a quart of chocolate milk!
dailykos: loved by liberals and other non-thinking folks.
“In my little town, NUTBALLS like the Hillary hostage guy don’t live to poorly at all.They get a nut-check, all the drugs they want, (paid by taxes), they got their own nice, new duplex apartments right across from the liquor store.WOW, what a set up.Vision card, medicaid, free drugs, and cash assistance for being insane. The nut’check buys the booze that keeps them crazy till the next check gets here.
And you condemm me for judging YOU?
You have no idea what you’re talking about..and you’re about as street smart as a doorknob.Funny how the world looks to someone who views it from a distance…get your hands dirty once in a while, Tracy, and your view may change a little.Bigots like you make me sick…you have no idea what it’s like to walk in the shoes of those who suffer from mental illness…so don’t go acting so f**king superior. And you accuse ME of being self righteous?…What a joke you are.
Hank,
We got our milk by the gallon from a Dairy (they pasteurized their own.)
Talk about cream! Took a ruler to measure that cream. :)
There was a milk delivery guy, but the only thing we ever bought from him was cottage cheese and sometimes butter.
Chocolate milk we had to make on our own, as I think most households did. (N-E-S-T-L-E-S) Nestles makes the very best – choclate… :)
Unless we were at grandmother’s, then it was Ovaltine or Postum. :)
My mother got divorced when I was two years old. We went to El Dorado to live with my uncle Bill.
He had an ice box! The ice man would deliver a block of ice once a week.
He would bring it in the house, put it in the top of the ice box and chip me off a piece before he left.
No wonder Americans have so much heart disease. All that dairy does damage to our plumbing.
I was amazed at how many organic and free range food stores there were in North Carolina. I wish we had an “Earth Fare” in Wichita, what a great place to grocery shop.
No one will ever accuse Kansas of being too progressive.
Mary, that wasn’t a lot of dairy for a family. :)
Besides, at that point in my family’s life and me as well, we were so physically active there was an ounce of fat anywhere on us.
Running to and from school helped as well, it was a little less than a mile. :)
My family owned a grocery store the whole time I was growing up…people would buy lunchmeat by the pound and we sliced it as thick or thin as they wanted. My dad sold his homemade chili and let people charge their grocerys. We knew all our customers by their first names…in the 70s the supermarkets put all the mom and pop stores out of business along with the personalized service.
That’s true Kansas, we played outside all day long, only coming into the house for meals..rode our bikes and rollar skated all over the neighborhood. There wern’t too many fat kids in those days!
CNN declared that it had selected twenty-four “undecided Republican voters” at the University of Tampa.
Chas, that didn’t turn out to be true.
CNN lied.
“Max” –
If the Repubs can’t deal with questions from Democrats, how will they deal with, say, al Qaeda?
And all those undecided voters were all on YouTube, right Max?? And all of the YouTube submissions came only from Tampa, right Max??
I dont believe I heard anything like that on CNN’s promotions of the debate…
CNN has employed:
Robert NovakPat BuchannanBay BuchannanNeal BoortzGlenn BeckCal ThomasThat squirrel tooth bitty that was on Capitol Gang I forget.
Fox news has
alan colmes (I wish I knew how to make my type smaller for him)
And you call bias?
J R – If CNN is so blasted liberal, I cant figure out WHY they use the likes of Glenn Beck, and Cal Thomas… Those two alone are so far to the right, that if they turn their heads any farther, they will break their necks!! LOL
More?
Capitol gang…gone
Crossfire….gone
These were balanced shows.
Where is CNN’s equivalent to “the O’Reilly farter? Why is there not a “Moore and Levin”?
Ksfarmgirl, it is unusual for a conservative to favor higher taxes. (In rare cases I do) It is NOT unusual for a conservative to care about the land and the environment.
As The American Cropland Crisis pointed out, the farmland crisis today is not in terms of acres or food shortages YET. But, once that topsoil is gone, it is gone for 1,000 or more years.
HOW to preserve our farmland, is the big question that has not been answered yet.
It’s largely a legal question, in that the Federal vs State power conflict would need to be resolved. Can the Feds mandate Zoning or a Sales Tax on the land? I was hoping Vaughn or GMC could answer. Maybe there are other options.
With the profit for land destruction motives I outlined above, I don’t think the States will ever effectively be able to ensure the conservation of the land.
We save land in remote regions like Anwar, yet we don’t hesitate to tear-up the topsoil anywhere in the lower 48 to build a new subdivision, shopping mall, or another multi-lane highway.
That topsoil is the food supply for today and tomorrow, for the US and for much of the world. And now with ethanol, we have more aggressive farming to maximize bushels/acre, more soil erosion, more farm chemcials damaging and polluting the land.
Land conservation should be a key part of any national environmental program. I don’t hear anyone in government even talking about it, much less doing anything to ensure future generations don’t starve to death.
Land is a strategic national resource, and we cannot survive once it’s gone.
We have a Clean Air and Water Act, why not a Farmland preservation Act?
MAX!
I knew I had a reason to be hopeful about you.
I’m gonna let you alone and let you expand on your last.
“Max” –
If the Repubs can’t deal with questions from Democrats, how will they deal with, say, al Qaeda?
Posted by: MonkeyHawk | December 01, 2007 at 10:21 PM
Cute Monkey, I asked the same question about Hillary after she had several planted questions (planted by her) asked of her.
I didn’t see that the Republicans had a problem answering even the planted questions. But let’s not have a debate with an audience of Undecided Republican Voters, if the audience is going to be stacked with Democrats.
Other then the 10/31 debate, the Dems have received nothing but softball questions from their buddies in the main stream media.
I’m not such a bad conservative JR.
Conservatives I know do care about the environment.
I don’t have a good solution to the Cropland Crisis, and I haven’t heard anyone offering solutions.
Zoning and Taxation are a couple of approaches.
We are talking about States rights, and individual rights being in conflict with what is best for the country.
If I’m a retiring farmer, I have a right to sell my land to the highest bidder. Does the buyer then have the right to take that prime farmland and convert it to residential or business use?
New subdivisions sometimes have Covenents, which restrict what the private property owners can do with their land in those subdivisions. (Eg, building fences, types of fences, etc.)
Does the State or Federal Government have the right to put such restrictions on existing farmland? Certainly not without compensating the owner for any damages the restrictions cause.
If that retiring farmer could have sold to a developer his land at $20,000 acre, but can only sell it as farm land at $4,000 acre, how should the government compensate that farmer?
Big issue, and won’t be solved tonight, that’s for sure.
CNN blatantly (and incompetently) stacked the deck in the Repub debate and their defenders say; well, Fox news doesn’t have enough liberals.
That makes as much sense as JR linking abortion laws that don’t even exist with the horror of welfare reform.
See here is what I mean Max.
I know outlander a long time.
There’s no hope for him. There is no diplomacy with him. He is where he is and I am where I am.
We cannot discuss anything. He is admittedly “not of this world” and while I respect that, it makes the distance between us unbridgeable.
And with that, I’m off to ancestry.
My family, they built this country. I have folks I am finding from just before and just after Plymouth rock.
It gives one a sense of responsibility. 14 Generations my son is American on some lines. I’m distantly related to every single President this nation has ever had.
Yup him too. I didn’t like that.
But you play the hand you are dealt. Me? I don’t bluff.
‘night.
Outie, I havent heard ANY of the Repub canidates say the debate was loaded, or unfair… Geez, it was a Youtube debate… supposedly nationwide… I know, I know, it was STAGED in Florida… And they played to some of the Florida people… but it was a NATIONAL debate!!
Well, all… Tomorrow is the First Sunday in the Advent Season… I have Early Eucharist, and much to finish yet tonite…
Good Night; Good Luck; and God bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!
Happy Advent!!Blessings to all!!
Oh, and, may your Prepartions for the Celebration of the Birth of Christ bring you Hope and Peace this Holy Season!
The Rt. Rev. C.F.
Well Chas you going to get all happy pretending Christmas is about Christ?
Very foolish, but it does make the part-time, Sunday morning Christians feel all warm and fuzzy.
But is hasn’t a damn thing to do with Christ or the Word of GOd.
Have fun!
So YOU say, Pat… At least we will celebrate the Season with great joy… and it will be a celebration of Christ, the Prince of Peace
DNFTT