Open thread 12/17

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  1. KansasMeadowlark
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 1:16 am | Permalink

    Sorry, but this is posted in parts since TypePad thinks this is spam

    Several weeks ago commentary about a paper by Stephen J. Ware, a professor at the University of Kansas School of Law appeared in the Wichita Eagle. Professor Ware made the case that Kansas attorneys have too much power in selection of judges, especially when compared to other states:

    STEPHEN J. WARE: BAR HAS TOO MUCH POWER IN PICKING STATE’S JUSTICEShttp://www.kansas.com/205/story/240541.htmlWichita Eagle, Nov 29

    Ware’s commentary prompted a reply by Linda S. Parks, president of the Kansas Bar Association.

    LINDA PARKS: KEEP SELECTING JUSTICES ON MERIT, NOT POLITICShttp://www.kansas.com/205/story/247242.htmlWichita Eagle, Dec 6

  2. KansasMeadowlark
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 1:17 am | Permalink

    Part II.

    Parks’ response to Ware’s paper is a metaphor for what is happening in Kansas with the press hiding just how political the current selection system is.

    Linda Parks didn’t say anything in her Wichita Eagle commentary that she contributed $4000 to Kathleen Sebelius for Governor from 2001-2006, nor did Linda Parks say anything about the $2000 she gave to Paul Morrison for Attorney General in 2005-2006. Linda Parks didn’t say anything about her “generous financial contributions” and those of her husband, Randy Brown, to the Sedgwick County Democratic Party (http://www.sedgwickcountydemocrats.com/newsletter/Democratic%20Voice%202nd%20Q%202005.pdf ).Linda Parks didn’t say anything about being an attorney at Hite Fanning & Honeyman LLP (http://www.lawyers.com/Kansas/Wichita/Hite,-Fanning-and-Honeyman-L.L.P.-1013883-f.html )in Wichita, nor anything about one of the principals in that law firm, Richard C. Hite, being the chair of the Supreme Court Nominating Commission! Might that just color her opinion a bit? How deceptive can an attorney be?

    Linda Parks didn’t say anything about her husband, Randy Brown(http://curb.kcc.state.ks.us/bio_brown.htm ), a Democratic Candidate for the Kansas Senate in 2004 in District 31, giving $500 to Tiller’s ProKanDo PAC in 2005, and that Brown was supported by Tiller’s Kansans for Moderate Government PAC in 2004. Linda Parks didn’t say anything that two members of the current Kansas Supreme Court Nominating Commission, namely Richard Hite and Lee Woodard, had contributed to her husband’s failed State Senate run in 2004. No conflict of interest here by the president of the Kansas Bar Association?

    Why must the Kansas press keep Kansans in the dark about just how political the process is to select our judges? Why is the Kansas press just like Linda Parks in saying one thing, but leaving out many political details that are relevant in keeping the system fair?

    For some additional details:Updated Political Profile of Members of the Kansas Supreme Court Nominating Commission:Still 6 Democrats, 2 Republicans, 1 Republican for Moore

    http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/12-16.htm

  3. curious
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 2:35 am | Permalink

    Isn’t spam defined by unwanted advertisement? Well…

    I wonder if Maureen Dowd’s dissatisfaction with Hillary is any worse than that felt by Maxine. More importantly is the source of said dissatisfaction the same, viz. vasculogenic?

    http://www.seekwellness.com/womensexuality/vasculogenic.htm

    Dowd’s work [sic]:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/opinion/16dowd.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

    The other thing I’d like to know, is why do so many conservative men find this unattractive liberal woman’s sex life so interesting? Please help with that…

  4. writerdog
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 2:39 am | Permalink

    Just in case anyone is interested, on the page showing how much in donations Ron Paul has received.At of 3:35 A.M. et he has raised over 18,145,323.00 dollars for his campaign.

    https://www.ronpaul2008.com/

  5. writerdog
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    Because we are not getting any!OMG did I just write that outloud?Heeeeee

  6. curious
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    An honest conservative man. They do exist. :)

  7. Wiseman
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 3:27 am | Permalink

    Ron Paul is about as honest as the South Koreans cloning glow in the dark kittens.

  8. Fun, Fulsome Female
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 7:09 am | Permalink

    I’m normally a huge fan of the Wichita Eagle – but there have been at least two lapses in judgment during the past 2.5 years that left me cold.

    One of them occurred in yesterday’s edition.

    I’m quite sure Paul Morrison’s wife and family cherished the picture with assorted lipstick kisses – accompanied by sophomoric jingles best left unsung.

    Is the Eagle a respectable newspaper – or tabloid tabletrash?

    This situation isn’t amusing – not for the Democratic Party, not for Kathleen Sebelius, not for Morrison’s family and friends.

    Not even the promise of hearing the inimitable Richard Crowson, whose efforts I continually cherish, belting out these Morrison-inspired satires could keep the revulsion at bay.

    I didn’t appreciate this juvenilia, any more than I appreciated ex-President Bush’s sneering comment about women who have abortions. The Eagle saw fit to confer front-page notoriety upon this comment in 2005. It was a low point in its history.

    Yesterday was another.

  9. J R
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    One has to remember the audience or majority in it to which the Eagle plays.

    Be grateful it does anymore than ag reports, nascar results, and the ramblings of Brent Castillo.

    Ya don’t write the stuff of Pulitzer for an audience that wants Archie and Jughead.

  10. writerdog
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    Why so bitter wiseman, you turn off the lights and now you can not find your cat?

  11. time for change
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    FFF – there are a lot worse things said everyday on here about republicans. So don’t take it too hard.

  12. outlander
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Thank you KansasMeadowlark for that piece of research, demonstrating how the Kansas Supreme Court nominating process is dominated by Democrats in a Republican state.

    Something isn’t right here. What do you recommend as a solution?

  13. writerdog
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071217/ts_nm/iraq_troops_dc;_ylt=Aq4qlvom3GB_M5zmGKeZeuBZ.3QA

    ?Iraq sees need for foreign troops for 10 years
    Mon Dec 17, 5:02 AM ET
    Iraq will need foreign troops to help defend it for another 10 years, but will not accept U.S. bases indefinitely, government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said.”Of course we need international support. We have security problems. For 10 years our army will not be able to defend Iraq,” Dabbagh told the state-run al-Iraqiya television in an interview broadcast late on Sunday.”I do not think that there is a threat of an invasion of Iraq, or getting involved in a war. (But) to protect Iraqi sovereignty there must be an army to defend Iraq for the next 10 years,” he said.”But on the other hand, does Iraq accept the permanent existence of U.S. bases, for instance? Absolutely no. There is no Iraqi who would accept the existence of a foreign army in this country,” he said. “America is America and Iraq is Iraq.”The United States now has about 155,000 troops in Iraq, formally operating under a U.N. Security Council mandate enacted after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.Iraq has asked the Security Council to extend the mandate for what it says will be a final year to the end of 2008, and conditions for U.S. troops to stay on beyond that date are to be negotiated in the next few months.Violence has subsided after the United States dispatched 30,000 additional troops to Iraq this year, and Washington now says it will bring about 20,000 home by mid-2008. Troop levels for the second half of the year are to be decided in March.(Writing by Peter Graff; Editing by Janet Lawrence)

  14. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    I have to respectfully disagree, JR.

    They run the spittle-flecked, rabid right Cal Thomas twice a week and don’t run any one on the left anywhere near as much.

    In fact, the only truly left-of-center columnist I can ever remember the Eagle running was Molly Ivins, but then they stopped running her about two or three years before her death.

    There’s absolutely no balance on The Eagle’s editoral pages. Middle-of-the-road Randy Scholfield in no way balances out always hard-right Brent Castillo.

    Ditto with the mild Tom Teepen and the fire breathing right-wing ideologue Kathleen Parker.

  15. Heckler
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    I highly recommend “The Pursuit of Happyness” with Will Smith.

    There arent many movies out these days that are worth a crap in my opinion. This is one of very few.

  16. Rox
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Heckler,

    We have it on DVD, but I’ve yet to watch it. Why? I’m guaranteed a good cry, and the holidays make me weepy enough. (Blame part of that on watching “It’s a Wonderful Life” over the weekend.) Maybe once the calendar turns to a new year I’ll give Will’s movie a try…with a box of tissues beside me. :)

    Thanks for the good words on it though. It’s always good to have a recommendation on a movie.

  17. Heckler
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Rox

    You will have a good cry over it. It’s heartbreaking in places, the hardship they went through. But they never gave up, when giving up would have been easier.

  18. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    I agree with Heckler.

    That movie is a very good example of how someone with drive and ambition is utterly FAILED by our society when they really need a little help to get back on their feet.

    Fortunately it worked out for him and that’s why they made a movie about it.

    They don’t make a movie about the tens of thousands of people in exactly the same circumstances with the same drive and intelligence and work ethic that fail because they have utterly no support system . . .

  19. Tom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    …the Kansas Supreme Court nominating process is dominated by Democrats in a Republican state. What do you recommend as a solution?Posted by: outlander | December 17, 2007 at 08:59 AM

    Kick the radical religionists and the fascists out of the Republican Party. That would be a place to start.

  20. Heckler
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Leave it to a Marxist to take EXACTLY the wrong lesson from Happyness.

  21. Ksgrm
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Heard over the weekend about a movie starring the lost Baldwin brother, Stephen. The movie is call ‘Midnight Clear’. Haven’t seen it but heard it is a tear jerker about 5 peoples struggle on Christmas Eve. Heard the acting is superb.

  22. Ksgrm
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Tom you have got to work on not letting others steal your joy. They can only do it if you let them. Hope your Christmas is merry.

    Outlander there are some good demos lets just hope Sebelius uses good judgement.

  23. Tom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Ksgrm,

    There are also some good Republicans. I work with them in the Capitol on a regular, ongoing basis. But the radical religionists make cooperation _very_ difficult. It’s all “scorched earth” to them, and they look at anyone who disagrees with their dogmas of intolerance and hatred as though we’re working for Satan. (That’s not an exaggeration – it’s something I’ve been directly accused of doing.)

  24. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Actually, someone did make a story about the flip side of “Happyness.”

    http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/5335/The-Bicycle-Thief/overview

    This landmark Italian neorealist drama became one of the best-known and most widely acclaimed European movies, including a special Academy Award as “most outstanding foreign film” seven years before that Oscar category existed. Written primarily by neorealist pioneer Cesare Zavattini and directed by Vittorio DeSica, also one of the movement’s main forces, the movie featured all the hallmarks of the neorealist style: a simple story about the lives of ordinary people, outdoor shooting and lighting, non-actors mixed together with actors, and a focus on social problems in the aftermath of World War II. Lamberto Maggiorani plays Antonio, an unemployed man who finds a coveted job that requires a bicycle. When it is stolen on his first day of work, Antonio and his young son Bruno (Enzo Staiola) begin a frantic search, learning valuable lessons along the way. The movie focuses on both the relationship between the father and the son and the larger framework of poverty and unemployment in postwar Italy.

  25. outlander
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    …the Kansas Supreme Court nominating process is dominated by Democrats in a Republican state. What do you recommend as a solution?Posted by: outlander | December 17, 2007 at 08:59 AM

    Kick the radical religionists and the fascists out of the Republican Party. That would be a place to start.”- tom

    Thank you Tom, for that totally off the subject opinion. I notice that you demonstrate the usual fake tolerance associated with most liberals. (tolerance if you agree with them)

    You could always rejoin the Kansas Republican party. It would be an act of courage on your part. So, rather than running away like before, you could advance your ideas and change the party. :)

    (I have noticed that you can write the meanest things, but if you follow up with a happy face, everything is OK.)

  26. Heckler
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Capn

    Ok, I’ll bite. What is the flip side of Happyness?

  27. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    outlander–

    Think about what you’re saying.

    If a political party came along and said that your “lifestyle” as a heterosexual man was a “sin” and passed a State-wide ban on hetrosexual marriage as a threat to traditional society, would you join that party as an “act of courage?”

    How about some Jesse Jackson and Elie Weisel join the KKK as an “act of courage?”

    Thanks for proving again that “Not all CONservatives are stupid people, but all stupid people are CONservative.”

  28. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Heckler–

    The flip side of “Happyness” is a movie showing the people with drive and intelligence and aptitude who work hard and still fail, because of systematic failures of capitalism to live up to its promise.

  29. outlander
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    outlander–

    Think about what you’re saying.

    Posted by: CapnAmerica | December 17, 2007 at 10:43 AM

    ————-

    It wasn’t a serious suggestion, you dork!

  30. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Oh, the old IT WAS JUST A JOKE! ruse.

    With the corrollary assumption that anyone not seeing it as joke doesn’t have a sense of humor.

    Okay . . . well . . . in that case, my post was . . . uh . . . it was just a JOKE TOO.

    Haha.

    You didn’t see the humor in it?

  31. Ksgrm
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Tom this is a serious question so don’t take it in any other way? What is it about the republican party that the Log Cabin Republicans support? Whatever that is it might be a good start.

    If you are truly a conservative except for what you see as an attack on your lifestyle then I just don’t see how you can support a party that you only agree with on one subject.

    I know with certainty that this election I will not find any one candidate that I agree with on fiscal responsibility, is pro-life, has a good immigration policy, and isn’t higher tax and bigger government.

    This means I am going to have to be extra vigilant to look at the entire package when making a decision. JMOHO

  32. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Log Cabin Republicans.

    Now that’s REALLY queer . . .

  33. Ksgrm
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    See Tom, Cap is an example of a democrat.

  34. Tom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Outlander,

    I work with people with whom I disagree on various important issues on a daily basis. But see, here’s the key to cooperation: They don’t tell me I’m Satan’s servant and that I’m going to hell, and we agree to disagree, and then behave like adults and work together.

    The radical religionists, on the other hand, are not able to see past their own dogmas of hatred long enough to find places to cooperate with the targets of their hate.

    So just drop your little accusations that I’m intolerant of people I disagree with. That’s the MO of _your_ people.

  35. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Why yes Capn, it is much much easier to join the party of victimhood – the Democratic Party.

    One can whine, cry all day long and complain about the oppressive government ran by those Huns.

    Meanwhile da Dems can’t burn the flag, talk about the murdering rapists we have in Iraq, how someone they knew that knew someone that was the cousin of someone that knew someone that got Rodney King’ed so they can march hand in hand against the man, you know those pigs that wear the uniform.

    Da Dems, the party of ‘there is a spy around every corner along with one of those Huns who are taking away their freedoms’ as we speak.

    Da Dems, the party of ‘never met a campaign slush fund they didn’t like.’

    Da Dems, the party of Osama conspirators who think he is better for America than a voted in candidate.

    Da Dems, the party of secular belief, unless one of their members like the GORACLE speaks, then there are great sacrificial burnt offerings for belief without question.

    Da Dems, the party of ‘never met a tax they didn’t like.’

    Da Dems, or is that Da Dims? :)

  36. Steven Davis
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    I enjoyed the movie Happyness, too. But, I also agree that wanting something badly enough, working hard enough, etc. does not mean it will happen. There is a degree of luck involved – I know such realism runs counter to the free-market-solves-everything crowd’s belief.

  37. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    ::Shakes head and backs slowly away::

    Kansas, there’s nothing I can add to that last post that would make you sound any more irrational.

    It stands, a testament to the way you think.

  38. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Correct, Steven.

    If Will Smith’s little boy would have contracted mono for instance as he was in the interviewing process, he’d be sweeping floors at a QT somewhere . . .

  39. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    I’m out for awhile.

    Vaya con adios.

  40. Tom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Ksgrm,

    The Kansas Republican Party does not want me. That’s fine, really, I’ve got better things to do with my time. And the national Republican Party has become the party of warmongering fascists, who spend the blood of our children on no-bid contracts, who invade countries that haven’t attacked us, and who are going to spend our nation into ruin.

    No, I won’t be rejoining the Republican Party anytime soon.

  41. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Yo Republicans!

    Anyone have a spare nuke out there?

    I need to do some War Mongering and need the weapon of choice so I can instill some faacist deeds to spill some blood of children.

    Hurry! I’m late for my meeting of bribers and corrupt cronies at Haliburton!

    :)

    contact:

  42. annie moose
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I enjoyed the movie Happyness, too. But, I also agree that wanting something badly enough, working hard enough, etc. does not mean it will happen. There is a degree of luck involved – I know such realism runs counter to the free-market-solves-everything crowd’s belief.

    Posted by: Steven Davis | December 17, 2007 at 11:04 AMDing Ding!We have a winner if the Will Smith character couldn’t have solved the rubiks cube he would not have gotten the interview.

  43. XXX
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Administration officials say the White House has become more concerned in recent months about the situation in Afghanistan, where grinding poverty, rampant corruption, poor infrastructure and the growing challenge from the Taliban are hindering U.S. stabilization efforts. Senior administration officials now believe Afghanistan may pose a greater longer-term challenge than Iraq.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/16/AR2007121601823.html?hpid=topnews

    Is the Bush administration running a war, or playing Whack-a-Mole?

  44. Wiseman
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    “Why so bitter wiseman, you turn off the lights and now you can not find your cat?Posted by: writerdog | December 17, 2007 at 07:42 AM”

    Ah Writerdog, you too have seen the articles?Neat, huh-n!

  45. Posted December 17, 2007 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I watched The Pursuit of Happyness and really enjoyed it. What I saw wasn’t luck. What I saw was someone who kept trying. Had Chris not gotten that interview he would have found something else. The man was determined to make it and give his son what he always wanted, a Dad.

  46. poster
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Casey: Army is ‘out of balance.’In a new interview with Stars and Stripes, Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey calls the current state of the Army “out of balance,” stretched by the President’s policies in Iraq and Afghanistan:What I’ve been saying publicly, really since August, is that the U.S. Army is out of balance, and out of balance isn’t hollow, it’s not broken. … But we’re consuming our readiness as fast as we’re building it, and so we’re not able to build depth for other things. We’re running the all-volunteer force at a pace that is not sustainable.What has to happen is that we have to increase our size — and we’re doing that. … But it will take us three or four years to put ourselves back in balance, and it will take the continued support of Congress and the American people to ensure that we get the resources we need to do that.

  47. The Phantom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Maybe we’ll find out if bush really doesn’t know Jackhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071217/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_secrecy_2!

  48. The Phantom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Look on the table for those that didn’t get happyness’s job! http://www.fool.com/personal-finance/retirement/2007/12/17/prepare-for-a-gruesome-retirement.aspx

  49. Taz
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    ah yes..the “systemic failures of capitalism”. Compared to what? The overwhelming success of socialism as shown in the FORMER Soviet Union? Or the stellar economic advances of Cuba under a dictator? Or the vast economic engine generated by the caste system of Mexico? What would you have us do there, Capn? Destroy private enterprise entirely and just have the government support us all?

  50. Posted December 17, 2007 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    If anybody is interested, this is a fairly new book, and it comes highly recommended >>>

    http://www.ThankGodforEvolution.com

    It is a look at Faith+Evolution as a solution to some of the dilemmas that are currently happening… It has a “free” attached PDF version at the web site.

  51. The Phantom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Looking at DOW 13000, for the hundreth time!

  52. The Phantom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    How totally bereft of values and ideas is the Republic party in kansas if they are seriously going to attempt to make the Morrison affair an issue in the elections?First, Morrison was a Democrat for a very short time, and not even at the time of his affair.Second, Gov. Seibilus may have recruited him, but could hardly be expected to know he was a Republican adulturer.I think they will end up making themselves look foolish, but that should be expected.

  53. J R
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Uh huh I KNEW this was coming.

    “American foreign policy needs to change its tone and attitude, open up, and reach out,” Huckabee said. “The Bush administration’s arrogant bunker mentality has been counterproductive at home and abroad. My administration will recognize that the United States’ main fight today does not pit us against the world but pits the world against the terrorists.”

    My link won’t work. Google “Huckabee attacks bush”

    Hickabee got himself a little opening in the line and is now trying to do some real broken field running…

    AWAY from bush.

    Told ya.

  54. The Phantom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Rove advised the candidates put as much distance between themselves and bush as they possibly can.Hard for them to get away from that war thing, though.

  55. parkay
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    “Just another slap in the face to the victims.”. . . Richard Kanka, Megan’s father. . .
    NJ Gov. Jon S. Corzine signed into law Monday a measure that abolishes the state’s death penalty, and commuted 8 death sentences to life without parole, including Jesse Timmendequas, a previous sex offender who murdered 7-year-old Megan Kanka in 1994, after telling the victim he wanted to show her a puppy, the case which inspired Megan’s Law.We will not give up our God-given right to capital punishment, especially when parole boards keep turning murdering perverts loose again on our children.Furthermore, condemned killers can be guaranteed a serene, painless death as soon as their victims are.We will have justice.

  56. Mrage
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if this clown has a choice for President. Nebraska is worse off with him in their state.

    We have Fred Phelps. I’m sure every state has particular crazies ruining image of their community for publicity sake.

    http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2007/12/17/news/local/doc476483a48ec55898903386.txt

  57. poster
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Right wing attacks CBS for ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ story.

    On CBS’s 60 Minutes last night, correspondent Lesley Stahl reported that “discharges of gay soldiers” due to the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy “are dropping dramatically.” In the report, Stahl told the story of Army Sergeant Darren Manzella, who was “told to go back to work” after revealing to his battalion commander that he was gay. Speaking to CNSNews today, Matt Barber of Concerned Women for America attacked CBS for airing the story:

    “If the bleeding-heart lefties over at CBS News and the SLDN really want to do something to support our troops and help the military, they should abandon their attempts to radically alter and undermine the armed forces, pipe down, put a cork in it and let our brave fighting men and women win this war on terror,” he added.Andrew Sullivan notes how the 60 Minutes report “reveals that, in fact, wartime is the period when gay discharges routinely decline.”

    So now the right is complaining that the gays aren’t being thrown out of the military or are they complaining that they are “not” being thrown out of the military. I think this group is confused.

  58. Posted December 17, 2007 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    And now a message from Comedy Online >>>

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    The local paper read:

    PASTOR’S ASS OUT FRONT

    The Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he orderedthe pastor not to enter the donkey in another race.

    The next day, the local paper headline read:

    BISHOP SCRATCHES PASTOR’S ASS.

    This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the pastor to getrid of the donkey. The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a nearby convent.

    The local paper, hearing of the news, posted the following headline the next day:

    NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN.

    The bishop fainted. He informed the nun that she would have to get rid of the donkey, so she sold it to a farmer for $10.

    The next day the paper read:
    NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10.

    This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the donkey and lead it to the plains where it could run wild.

    The next day the headlines read:

    NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS
    IS WILD AND FREE.

    The bishop was buried the next day.

    The moral of the story is . . .

    Being concerned about public opinion can bring you much grief and misery . . even shorten your life.

    So be yourself and enjoy life.Stop worrying about everyone else’s ass and you’ll be a lot happier. And live longer!

    Have a nice day!

  59. Max
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Good story Chas!

  60. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    ah yes..the “systemic failures of capitalism”. Compared to what? The overwhelming success of socialism . . .

    Taz–are you familiar with the either/or fallacy?

    Apparently you are, because that’s what you’re doing.

    Just because someone points out the dead obvious problems with our society, doesn’t mean that he or she wants the means of production under state control like in the old Soviet Union.

    Look, the Will Smith character had to wait in line two hours to be sure of getting a bed for himself and his son AND try to look for a job at the same time.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we had GOVERNMENT run homeless shelters so that people could work and get a bed until they can start cashing a paycheck?

  61. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Had Chris not gotten that interview he would have found something else, says ProudMan.

    But WalMart doesn’t pay a living wage . . .

  62. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2007/12/17/national/w100931S95.DTL&type=printable

    Judge: White House Logs Are PublicBy MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer

    Monday, December 17, 2007

    (12-17) 15:08 PST WASHINGTON (AP) –

    White House visitor logs are public documents, a federal judge ruled Monday, rejecting a legal strategy that the Bush administration had hoped would get around public records laws and let them keep their guests a secret.

    The ruling is a blow to the Bush administration, which has fought the release of records showing visits by prominent religious conservatives.

    Visitor records are created by the Secret Service, which is subject to the Freedom of Information Act. But the Bush administration has ordered the data turned over to the White House, where they are treated as presidential records outside the scope of the public records law.

    But U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth ruled logs from the White House and Vice President Dick Cheney’s residence remain Secret Service documents and are subject to public records requests.

    . . . .

    President Clinton’s political opponents made extensive use of 1990s Secret Service logs documenting White House visits by donors, money-raisers, pardon-seekers and former White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

    ******

    UH, OH.

    Looks like BushCo is now going to go on record with how many times right-wing religious whack-os, Jack Abramoff, and Jeff Guckert (right-wing man whore posing as reporter) checked in an out.

    And what’s sauce for the Clinton’s is sauce for the Bush’s.

    Karma continues to be a bitch for the CONs . . .

  63. Posted December 17, 2007 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    CapN — For many people, it looks like the “means of production” is what IS running the government at this time… I have ben reading way too much on that subject… a bit scary… Sounds too Facist for my likings!!

  64. Posted December 17, 2007 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Some call it Corporatocracy, I think??

  65. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    KY’s Senior Senator Mitch McConnell said during a speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate
    “Domestic terrorism is not a cause we have to fight or a project we need to fund. We are not interested in capturing bin Laden. Even though he has been offered to us. We are not the world’s policemen. It’s not our job to clean up other countries messes or arrest it’s bad guys.”

    VERBATIM QUOTES FROM WHEN CLINTON WAS COMMITTING TROOPS TO BOSNIA:

    “You can support the troops but not the president.”–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

    “Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years.”–Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

    “Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?”–Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

    “The President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”–Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)”

  66. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy.”–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

    “If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.”–Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

    “I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area.”–Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

    “I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today”–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

    “Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”– Governor George W. Bush (R)-

    http://www.theyoungturks.com/story/2007/4/25/7588/86433/Diary/Verbatim-Quotes-from-Republicans-when-Clinton-was-Prez-

  67. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Yeah Capn, we should do nothing about radical Islam like Europe does.

    BTW, 30 percent of the population of Europe, including your favorite socialistic countries are now Islamic.

    Soon, the Islamists will have majority seats in the various parliaments around Europe and the Europeans who was in control can enjoy their lack of action and spine.

  68. Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Mercy sakes… And to think, nobody called those people Nazi’s when they disagreed with Clinton on HIS military strategies, the way the RIGHT wingnuts have climed all over anybody who disagrees with Bush’s War!! Amazing!!

    And even many of the comments are the same!! Most Amaing!!

  69. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, Chas.

    Never forget: IOKIYAR.

    Because whether Republicans oppose war or support war, they always have the best interest of our country at heart.

    Democrats on the other hand always want our country to lose, even when they support a war, like in Bosnia or Afghanistan.

    Just listen to Rush. He’ll tell you what to think.

  70. Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Kansas, I’d bet the French still have several of their old Guillotines sitting around in some Antique Museum of Barbarism.

    Why dont you try to convince them to drag out a few of them, and start chopping off Islamic heads in the village squares like they used to do?? That should give you something to do!

  71. Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    “…Islamists will have majority seats in the various parliaments around Europe…” (KANSAS)

    Ummm I dont think Islamists believe much in parliaments, Kansas. They sure dont seem to like living in their own countries with a Parliament! LOL

  72. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Thirty percent! REALLY?

    Which orifice of your body did you pull that one from, Kansas?

    Wikipedia has Muslim population of Germany at 4 percent.

    France, ditto.

    Netherlands, 6 percent.

    Wow. That was a stupid “fact” even from Kansas’s many splendored litany of stupid facts . . .

  73. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    The story about 30 percent of Europe being Islamic came from a CNN story.

    Everyone knows they are accurate. :)

  74. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    And while Kansas worries about Islam taking over America, the Christian Taliban has already done it . . .

    Exhibit A is Brownback. Now Huckabee comes along and says his “surge” in the polls is “divine.”

    God must be merciful. Otherwise, she would have struck these idiots down in their tracks years ago.

  75. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Link it, dipswitch.

  76. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    I’ll bet you 50 bucks, Kansas, that CNN never reported that Europe’s population stood at 30 percent.

    (That doesn’t include interviews with idiots rattling off fake facts.)

    Put up or shut up, ScaredyKan.

  77. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    It was a special on CNN by Christiana Amanpour on Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

  78. Posted December 17, 2007 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Capn,

    Kansas’ memory is not very good with facts.

    When a column says that ’something’ was “A culprit”, and lists OTHER culprits, Kansas remembers that the ’something’ was “THE culprit”, i.e. the ONLY culprit.

  79. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    Iran Is Making Push Into Nicaragua

    As part of a new partnership with Nicaragua’s Sandinista President Daniel Ortega, Iran and its Venezuelan allies plan to help finance a $350 million deep-water port at Monkey Point on the wild Caribbean shore, and then plow a connecting “dry canal” corridor of pipelines, rails and highways across the country to the populous Pacific Ocean. Iran recently established an embassy in Nicaragua’s capital.

    In feeling threatened by Iran’s ambitions, the people of Monkey Point have powerful company. The Iranians’ arrival in Nicaragua comes as the Bush administration and some European allies hold the threat of war over Iran to force an end to its uranium enrichment program and alleged help to anti-U.S. insurgents in Iraq.

    What worries state department officials, former national security officials and counterterrorism researchers is that, if attacked, Iran could stage strikes on American or allied interests from Nicaragua, deploying the Iranian terrorist group Hezbollah and Revolutionary Guard operatives already in Latin America. Bellicose threats by Iran’s clerical leadership to hit American interests worldwide if attacked, by design or not, heighten the anxiety.

    “The bottom line is if there is a confrontation with Iran, and Iran gets bombed, I have absolutely no doubt that Iran is going to lash out globally,” said John R. Schindler, a veteran former counterintelligence officer and analyst for the National Security Agency.

    Front and center on many minds is Argentina’s contention that Iran, using its embassy as cover, orchestrated two Hezbollah bombings of Israeli and Jewish community targets in Buenos Aires in the early 1990s.

    cont’d at
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA121607.01A.Nicaragua.297e041.html

  80. J R
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Huh looks like “kansas”JM stuck his butt out in the wind again.

    Link the story you SAY puts Muslim populations in Europe at 30%.

    OR admit that you made it up.

  81. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Computer Whiz ScaredyKan can’t google, apparently.

    I guess this is where he got the number “thirty”:

    AMANPOUR: Across Europe, Islam is the fastest growing religion, the number of Muslims tripling in the last 30 years.

    The wronger the reich-wing is, the louder they yell . . .

  82. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    “I’ll bet you 50 bucks, Kansas, that CNN never reported that Europe’s population stood at 30 percent.”Posted by: CapnAmerica | December 17, 2007 at 06:52 PM

    No worries Capn, I’m still trying to figure out that bet.

  83. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    “What worries state department officials, former national security officials and counterterrorism researchers is that, if attacked, Iran could stage strikes on American or allied interests from Nicaragua . . . ”

    REALLY?

    Well, how about we DON’T attack them?

    How about that?

  84. Ksgrm
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    30% of what?

  85. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Obviously, “Europe’s Muslim population stands at 30 percent . . .”

    Don’t worry, ScaredyKan, no one would ever confuse YOU with an man of honor who would stand behind his statements . . .

  86. J R
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    “kansas”JM is busted again.

    (cue sound effect muted trumpet)

    Wah wah wahhhh

  87. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    So where is your source link Capn?

    I don’t see any link. :)

  88. The Phantom
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Mary, we don’t need to ban smoking from restaurants, we need to ban the restaurants from selling red and processed meats!http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=8e793162-fd9c-473c-b1b9-3d57d75d3a39

  89. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    And the alarming thing, JR, is that it doesn’t even make good nonsense to think that Europe is 30 Muslim.

    Anybody who has even a nodding acquaintance with Europe would know that cannot possibly be true.

    But these are the same people who are convinced that Kerry lied his way to five medals, that America has the best health care in the world, and the rich make our country a better place to live.

  90. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    30 percent Muslim

  91. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Ever been to Turkey?

    Anglo-Saxons/Germanics are not the only Europeans. :)

  92. CapnAmerica
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    http://newsbusters.org/node/15119/print

    A reich-wing site, ScaredyKan.

    You should like it . . .

  93. Posted December 17, 2007 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Dont let him twist it on you, CapN… He is trying to get you to take the hook!! Dont let him do it!!

  94. Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    “AMANPOUR: Across Europe, Islam is the fastest growing religion, the number of Muslims tripling in the *last 30 years.*

    This increased Muslim presence, and violence like the Van Gogh murder, play into the hands of right-wing politicians, like Geert Wilders, a member of the Dutch parliament…”

    [newsbusters.org, Aug., 2007]

  95. KansasMeadowlark
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Outlander: “Something isn’t right here. What do you recommend as a solution?”

    I believe Professor Ware’s conclusions have merit. Briefly he suggests senate confirmation of Kansas Supreme Court Justices “is a reform worthy of serious consideration.”

    From http://www.fed-soc.org/doclib/20071126_KansasPaper.pdf

    Here is the longer version of his conclusions:

    “The bar has an unusually high degree of controlover the selection of supreme court justices in Kansas.None of the other forty nine states gives the bar as muchcontrol. To move Kansas from this extreme positiontoward the mainstream, several possible reforms havebeen debated in recent years. The least ambitiousreform would merely change the composition of theKansas Supreme Court Nominating Commission.Rather than allowing the bar to select a majority of theCommission’s members, some of those members could,instead, be selected by the Kansas Legislature. Whilethis would reduce the amount of control the bar hasover the judicial selection process, it would not openup the process by exposing the commissioners’ votesto the public. Other states open the judicial selectionprocess to the public by using judicial elections orsenate confi rmation of judicial nominees. Proposals toelect supreme court justices have received little supportin Kansas in recent years. By contrast, proposals toinstitute senate confi rmation have received signifi cantsupport in the Kansas Legislature. Senate confi rmationwould both reduce the amount of control the barhas over the judicial selection process and open upthat process to a more public system of checks andbalances. The worry that senate confi rmation in Kansaswould be a political “circus” or a “battle” fi nds littlesupport in the experience of the many states that usesenate confirmation. In short, senate confirmation ofKansas Supreme Justices is a reform worthy of seriousconsideration.”

  96. Posted December 17, 2007 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    “Link the story you SAY puts Muslim populations in Europe at 30%.

    OR admit that you made it up.”

    Posted by: J R

    Kansas is more likely to post a link that does NOT support his claim, and then waste everyones time by falsely insisting that it does.

    That’s what Kansas did over at, http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/12/climate-change.html#comment-93660164

  97. Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    JR — he didnt make it up… but I think he crunched his numbers in the wrong number cruncher…

  98. Kansas
    Posted December 17, 2007 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    Birds in the air as night doth fall,

    Fly the wind to seek landfall.

    arrrrrrr…..

    :)

  99. Posted December 18, 2007 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    Good night; Good luck; and God bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!

    Blessings All!!

    MERRY XRMAS!!!

  100. Posted December 18, 2007 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    Had Chris not gotten that interview he would have found something else, says ProudMan.

    But WalMart doesn’t pay a living wage . . .

    Posted by: CapnAmerica | December 17, 2007 at 05:04 PM

    So I suppose he shouldn’t try because he can’t ‘make it’. That may be a left-wing attitude, but it’s the attitude of a successful man.