“Every two years, the Democrats kind of haul me out of the barn like an old horse to see if I can make it around the track one more time.†— Bill Clinton, adding on an Iowa campaign stop Monday that his wife, Hillary Clinton, “is the single best suited person to be president†and “the most gifted person of our generationâ€
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At least he is plugging the right woman this time!
No, she isn’t the best in suits person to be President.
Best suited is code words for “experience”.
She takes lobbyists money and has voted with Bush too often.
Billy had his time and he’s not supposed to be in the White House again.
Legacy Presidents have to stop! No more Clinton’s, Bush’s, Kennedy’s ever in the White House again.
I don’t dislike her, but the campaign she’s running feeling some competition now is becoming mean spirited to Obama. Is it everyday she has fire campaign staffers?
Next President should get ready to take every commentary abuse imaginable. These are times when blogs make headlines, might get read at the White House!
Candidates on both sides have some skeletons that are worse than “lack of experience”.
Obama didn’t let out a rapist. He wasn’t in control of state legislation that allows $50 abortions.
He hasn’t created a shill protection business protecting Oxycontin creators and Corporate Fraudsters. He didn’t personally go begging to the SEC so Corporate violations were less severe.
Protecting the corporates from being sued by victims and general investors is a moral thing to do?
Obama likely knows his friends better when promoting them to an appointed office. Let’s hope so.
Who has had affairs? The latest wife, she’s a first lady?
He isn’t flip flopping on words said about Mormon’s and immigration views.
He doesn’t have the experience explaining policy, the quarantine of AIDS sufferers from society!
That’s a policy President should promote to Congress?
Bring back the internment camps!
Is Presidential experience required having those kinds of problems?
There are four real candidates for President. GOP are interchangeable still who the top two candidates will be.
GOP candidates are likely to partner being running mates. Unlikely on Dem side.
Hillary/Richardson is a possibility.
I’m curious to who Obama might choose as a running mate.
There is Gore thinking of the possibility being Prez, but I don’t think he’s a better candidate now than he was before.
It would be brutal if he lost Florida again with a Nobel Prize!
Hillary’s gift was staying hitched while Bill had his fun with other babes and the intern. For that Bill is thankful!
Electability is another word being used, all the Candidates are possibily electable.
The GOP has recent skeletons under Bush and crimes in Congress were spelled out. GOP has low polls in a lot of areas.
Isn’t it weak for GOP to use Reagan’s name!
We need a different ideology in the White House. Hopefully it could be a cross party administration, picking the best appointments from both parties.
No more Federal hiring based only on political party.
Let’s be honest; this is Bill’s third term he’s running for.
And given the recent poll numbers, it’s slipping away from him . . .
I think people think that, once elected, Hillary will just step aside and hand the reins to Bill and he will serve a duo facto 3rd term while Hillary makes tea or something. But Hillary is devious and tough. She might toss Bill to the curb and run the show herself.
Hey Bill, great to see you again. Still love you, man. Hell, Bill I’ll vote for you again.
Clinton=Bush.
Oh boy, ya think Max will post twenty rants against Hillary? Heheheheh. Like she needs an excuse to post them?
Yawwwwwwn
Can someone tell me why Max hates Hillary so much? I’m not fond of her but man he really goes off when her name is mentioned
“Can someone tell me why Max hates Hillary so much? I’m ”
Jealousy!
Max is a simple little foot soldier who gets his marching orders from Rush and Hannity.
I didn’t really like Bill Clinton that much. I voted for him because he wasn’t George Bush or Bob Dole.
He was also the best Republican President since Teddy Roosevelt.
Senator Clinton, that’s different. A former Goldwater girl who grew a soul. I can personally relate to that.
maybe she reminds him of his mother?
Oh please Bill, keep talking.Everytime you make a speech Hillary’s numbers tank even further.
Please Billy keep it up!!!!
Since you are now an old horse, how’s it feel having your hoof in your mouth all the time?
Oh look, the biased editors at the Eagle have dragged Bill Clinton out to flog once again.
Boo hoo hoo. I’m gonna go cry to my mommy about how mean those biased Eagle editors are.
Boo hoo hoo.
Y’all have convinced me!
Due to the overwhelmingly supportive posts for Hillary, enumerating her numerous outstanding qualifications for the job of President of the United States of America; and also because of her personal warmth, charm, and beauty, I shall have to now support Hillary Clinton.
It is interesting to note that the WE accommodates those taunting ME, but if I were to write the word “Chas*sm”, that post shall be pulled.
Nevertheless, y’all have brow beaten me enough with all of the facts, and Hillary is now officially My Girl!
JR
Just curious could you have voted for Bob Dole lets say 10 – 15 yrs earlier. I think he would have made a good pres in his younger days as I think Nancy K would have — they were the Kansas class acts in DC, and well admired by most Kansans —
C’mon Max
April Fools day isn’t for a 5 more months — are you the uncle at family gatherings that tells all the kids hey pull my finger ….??
“…and Hillary is now officially My Girl!”
.. Max you can do soooooo much better, I have a neighbor that you …..
No Ken, I’m really convinced now to vote for Hillary.
Just look at all the good reasons to vote for her that have been posted on this blog for months!
Great Max! With your support, and the rest of the true conservatives, we can get Bill (I mean Hillary) back in the White House again.
Maybe they can return some of the American peoples property they stole in they grand exit in 2001?
Unfortunately, they will never be able to replace the respectability they took from the office.
reports of vandalism, graffiti, and obscene messages in White House offices by outgoing Clinton staffers
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,428617,00.html
Official Government Report of the vadalism by Clinton:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02360.pdf
White House press secretary Ari Fleischer outlined the details of the damage
THE CLINTONS CLEAROUT: TAKE $200,000 WORTH OF WHITE HOUSE FURNISHINGS…
DAILY MAIL January 22, 2001
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/clintons.htm
U.S. Congressional investigation prompted by Bush administration charged that aides to President Bill Clinton vandalized as they left, found at least 19,000 dollars in damage
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200206/13/eng20020613_97755.shtml
max
you’re serious, would you like a brain cat scan to see what blood vessel has burst clouding your thinking — I think we can have a benefit to raise money for it if needed —
I’ll pray for you that it doesn’t get worse before it’s too late —
Oh yes, let the future president campaign for his wife. We need another four years of this man:
“Clinton has helped Marxists and terrorists and their ‘world revolution’ at every opportunity.” – U.S. Army Brigadier General Albion Knight, Jr. (Ret.)
http://www.tldm.org/news2/sellout.htm
Bill Clinton’s communist connectionshttp://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16122
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=12833
DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON the IMPEACHMENThttp://www.alamo-girl.com/0392.htm—–
Now see how Hillary is fighting Drugs! We need someone who will crack down on drug use. Hillary is My Girl!
Not sure if Hillary is right about Obama’s cocaine use hurting his chances though. The WE was saying alcoholism helped Bush become President.
(Beautiful picture of her holding a basket too!)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316622,00.html
Clinton Official: Obama’s Drug History Could Hurt in November If He is NomineeThursday, December 13, 2007
Dec. 11: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., holds up a basket of questions during a talk with billionaire investor Warren Buffett.
CONCORD, N.H. — A top adviser to Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign said Wednesday that Democrats should give more thought to Sen. Barack Obama’s admissions of illegal drug use before they pick a presidential candidate.
I agree with GMC’s assessment that Bill Clinton is attempting to circumvent the law by getting in through back door of the White House through his wife.
This will become more apparent as the primary season goes on and I believe this issue will cost Hillary Clinton her chance.
Now here’s something to consider -
a side benefit to electing Hillary is that she could help bring in more Democrats into House and Senate seats.
Riding her (and Bill’s) coat tails, I mean skirt, you know.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/12/will-hillary-be.html
Will be interesting to see if some one crawls out of the woodwork and says they smoked weed with her in 68 at the Dem covention in chicago —- she was from Oak Park, a collar kind of upscale burb — kind of full of it self —- but not without it’s hippies etc in the day
Max now you know Hillary would have never said that stuff about Obama. It was a ‘top aide’ who did it against her wishes. She has apologized and said it would never happen again. Will saint Hillary every be able to undo the damage those aides keep doing?
“CLINTON APOLOGIZES TO OBAMA OVER DRUG HIT: Hillary makes it clear there will be no negative personal attacks by her campaign going forward… Developing…”
I pulled that last blurb straight from the Drudge report – you know the one she has choosen as her personal leak site.
I stand firmly behind Hillary because of her record, not in spite of her record.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071212/cm_uc_crbbox/op_234638
1. Hillary ordering around the White House staff to fire seven workers in the White House Travel Office for financial mismanagement, with Billy Dale accused of embezzlement. Hillary then lied to a grand jury about how she was not really involved in the firing scheme, even though staffers were writing there would be “hell to pay” if they didn’t do Hillary’s bidding. Billy Dale’s life was ruined. Two years later, it took a jury two hours to acquit him of all charges. Why did she do that? What would voters think, Mr. President?
2. Hillary making a mysterious $100,000 profit off a $1,000 investment in cattle futures with Tyson Foods lawyer Jim Blair making her trades. Was this a bribe for the governor’s wife? It certainly didn’t fit Hillary’s first fairytale explanation: that she made the trades just reading the Wall Street Journal. Would more focus on this still-unresolved scandal help Hillary’s campaign, Mr. President?
3. Hillary’s staffers rifling through Vince Foster’s office for documents in the hours after Foster’s death in Fort Marcy Park. One man seen leaving the scene with documents was White House aide and Hillary protege Craig Livingstone. What was he taking away? Why won’t anyone in your administration give an honest answer, Mr. President?
4. Hillary’s Rose Law Firm records “disappeared,” only to reappear in the White House residence after years of requests for documents from the independent counsel investigating her lawyering for her corrupt business partner Jim McDougal. What were they doing right outside Hillary’s private office, Mr. President?
5. Hillary demanding the need for a White House database of friends and enemies. The Clinton White House was found to be in possession of over 1,000 FBI files of Republican White House employees. At the center of the controversy again: Craig Livingstone, who told friends he was Hillary’s hire. Why were they there? How were they used?
In each of these cases — and so many more! — the Clinton-adoring media pulled a collective hamstring and retired before the scandal was ever resolved.
According to the AP, Clinton also said “his wife’s bipartisan work in the Senate proves she can accomplish her campaign’s message of change, and that records matter more than rhetoric.” But Hillary couldn’t even get her massive health-care plan through a Democratic House and Senate. In Carl Bernstein’s biography, he reported Hillary made enemies among Senate Democrats like Daniel Patrick Moynihan by threatening to “demonize” them if they didn’t swallow her health plan whole. Does that sound like a formula for bipartisan rule in 2009?
Looking at Hillary’s public record would also mean taking a serious look at her very liberal Senate voting record. She has a perfect 100 pro-abortion score with NARAL Pro-Choice America. Except for “gay marriage,” she’s pretty much perfect with the gay Human Rights Campaign lobby. She gets an F from the National Rifle Association. On fiscal issues, she gets an F from the National Taxpayers Union, a 14-percent score from Citizens Against Government Waste, and only a 6.7 percent score from Americans for Tax Reform. Her lifetime American Conservative Union rating is 9 percent.
At every turn, whether it is scandalous behavior or a scandalously liberal voting record, Bill Clinton knows full well that if the press were really focusing “like a laser beam” on Hillary’s past, her poll ratings would be dropping, not skyrocketing.
ksgrm, I see no problem even if Hillary attacked Obama for his drug use.
Even though negative attacks in a campaign are not always a good thing, sometimes (not always) the drug use record of a Presidential Candidate is relevent.
Hillary or her team, did us all a favor by raising this issue again.
Hillary will be tough fighting Drug use, as President.
(Though HillaryCare! will make it easier to get prescription drugs.)
Oh no worse thsn we thought — Max needs an intervention ——
I know, ksgm. “It was a ‘top aide’ who did it against her wishes.”
Uh-huh. The Clinton machine has a long history of letting a poor “top aide” throw their dirt for them.
The more things change, well, you know. It’s almost like when Bill was running, and the policy was to ruthlessly put down the “bimbo eruptions,” and trash (with surrogates, of course) any opposition.
Oh, wait, it IS Bill again . . .
Max I have to give her credit for seeing potential when no one else did. Craig Silverstone after all had been a bar bouncer until she recognized that he was perfect for White House security and put him over the whole shebang.
I have always been curious however over what happened to that curious lady that found the Rose Law Firm records in the Clinton’s personal living area of the White House. She should have been given a medal at the very least. Hillary had looked for those records for years and couldn’t find them.
ksgrm, I’m not sure that Hillary knew where those files were.
I’m sure a top aide was put in charge of them, and neglected to tell Hillary where those 1,000 FBI files were.
And even if Hillary shouldn’t have been reviewing these FBI files, it wasn’t her directly I’m sure, but that top aide who did it.
Hillary is My Girl!
Finally, a Clintons’ bashing thread!
Well Max and GM as I read this I am reminded how really rough Hillary has had it from the very beginning.
She married a cad with no money who was deeply in debt, had to read the WSJ to know how to make a little money in the futures market in order to feed the little one, had to take that low level law clerk job at Rose Law firm to support the family and now is being attacked by rogue aides who are protraying her in a bad light.
She was never even able to buy a house until Bill bought that big White House for her.
Well I can see she is to be pitied and not chastised.
She just ran across them in the basement of the White House, probably as she was cleaning house, you know how she like to do that – if she isn’t baking cookies.
Finally, a Clintons’ bashing thread!
Posted by: The Phantom | December 13, 2007 at 11:18 AM
Phantom don’t you be coming around talking trash on our Hillary. She has suffered enough because of you men.
I had not really expected Hillary to be the one but now, if I were betting on the outcomes, I would bet that she will be the next president of the United States. I don’t really see any of the other Democratic candidates heading her off and the Republic candidates seem bent on mutual destruction.
Ben you could be right. She is the smartest woman in the US, loyal to the end – look at her loyality to that cad she married. Hires people no one else would giving no thought to their experience – she teaches them what they need to know. Shows a dogged determination when she has a goal in sight – look at how long she has wanted to be prez. And last but not least she is able to overcome her ‘top aides’ saying something she would never sanction.
Go Hillary!!!
And the timing is perfect. She has the name and organization for the long and involevd primary/caucus season and the Republics seem to be getting weaker by the day. Not only inheriting a mantle from a very unpopular president but also slicing each other up.
The key to the Democrats is to not allow the competition to ‘cross the line’ into destruction. I’d love to slap each and every one of them upside the head and remind them that after February they all must be sitting together.
…and the Republics seem to be getting weaker by the day. Not only inheriting a mantle from a very unpopular president but also slicing each other up.”
Yep Ben next thing you know they will be accusing the other of being a drugie and of wanting to be a prez all the way back to their playpen days.
You know Ben we might try the old game ‘King of the Mountain’. Dems on one side and repubs on the other. Each team sends up a contestant and the last one standing goes on to the next round. With the writer strike this might be a reality show whose time has come.
So who will really run the show once they get back in the white house Max?
How will we ever know which Clinton really is acting as president? Last time Hillary tried to share power, but was beaten down, and even Bill had to relent.
What’s stopping them both from ruling in 2009?
Survivor – White House.
But, instead of the contestants voting people off let the public do so. Use the advertising revenue to balance the budget.
Thing about this show – there are things so horrible there was no way they could get the contestants to do them. Not so with this one!
I think you are on to something ksgrm.
They could put all the contestants (candidates) on an island. And since the Clintons already have close ties to China, we could get the island on the cheap.
Teams or individuals?
You know Ben I think we have a winner. I heard that even the TV critics are out of work with no new shows to critique. We could save jobs and do a public service.
The person finally going to the White House will have earned their way there. I see letting the public vote but to keep it ‘real’ maybe have the Supremes there just for show.
I’ll send this to the networks and see if we have any takers. The contributors to the WEblog could be tech writers (except I’m not union) and directors.
Yep I can see it now!!
I’m thinking it will have to be individuals. Politicians have a hard time sometimes being on a team. Someone always gets stabbed in the back and I didn’t plan on having a medical team there.
AmWay – teams. Then the public gets to vote one off each week – alternating which team loses one. Until the end where there is one left from each team the final vote.
After all, don’t we usually end up voting ‘negatively’ anyway?
Phantom don’t you be coming around talking trash on our Hillary. She has suffered enough because of you men.Posted by: ksgrm | December 13, 2007 at 11:22 AM
She’s being attacked just because she is a woman, ksgrm.
That’s not fair.
At least Bill is there to stand behind her and prop her up when she can’t stand on her own.
By the way – we cannot count on having shark and barricuda infested waters keeping them isolated. They can swim in such waters with no fear.
Professional courtesy.
Yes Ben I can see it. It would have to be teams Max because if it wasn’t Hillary would have to fight off the boys on her own. That might get ugly. And Ron Paul just isn’t physical enough to take on someone like say Duncan Hunter for instance.
I do like the shark infested water – if they aren’t tough enough to get through them then they aren’t good prez material.
This might cut down the contestants to quickly though. We probably have to save that one until the last show.
Now we have to deal with the very real possibility that none of them will survive. Then what?
ksgrm – as I noted, the sharks wouldn’t stand a chance.
To true Ben and we can’t afford to have the union and PETA on our backs.
Well my husband says I am having way to much fun on this blog and he is making me take him to lunch.
Carry on without me.
To answer your question AmWay, it won’t matter if we don’t know whether it is Bill or Hillary calling the shots. Most are voting for Hillary thinking it will be Bill calling the shots.
As for the contest, teams will be required so that Bill and Hillary can be paired up.
I look forward to Kucinich and his wife and Thompson and his wife too. Should be some mud-wrestling or water boarding exercises where teeshirts are worn.
Can’t wait to see Hillary in a wet teeshirt!
She’s My Girl!
An interesting angle: Since we are voting people OFF the island the front-runners will fall first. The reason – they are the ones with big negatives. People like Richardson for example might slip through because nobody DISLIKES him.
The politicians are already engaged in the ‘Survivor’ game aren’t they?
“Someone always gets stabbed in the back and I didn’t plan on having a medical team there.”
Ksgrm you made my point! I would pay EXTRA to see that on pay-per-view!
But wait a minute. This cannot be pay per view. What about the poor? This has to be on public TV.
But wait another minute. That would be bias toward the liberal team.
But wait a minute – it can’t be Fox. They have a bias toward the cons.
So which network gets the show?
So which network gets the show?
Posted by: American Way | December 13, 2007 at 01:08 PM
The Sci-Fi Channel
That won’t work. Too many better shows, that this would pre-empt.
That won’t work. Too many better shows, that this would pre-empt.
Posted by: American Way | December 13, 2007 at 01:13 PM
The Food Network
The Cartoon Network.
One sunny day in 2008, an old man approached the White House fromacross Pennsylvania Avenue, where he’d been sitting on a park bench.He spoke to the Marine standing guard and said, “I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary Clinton.” The Marine replied, “Sir, Mrs. Clinton is not President and doesn’t reside here.” The old man said, “Okay,” and walked away.The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, “I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary Clinton”. The Marine a gain told the man, “Sir, as I said yesterday, Mrs. Clinton is not President and doesn’t reside here.” The man thanked him and again walked away.The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same Marine, saying “I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary Clinton.” The Marine, understandably agitated atthis point, looked at the man and said, “Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mrs. Clinton. I’ve told you already several times that Mrs. Clinton is not the President and doesn’t reside here. Don’t you understand?”The old man answered, “Oh, I understand you fine, I just love hearing your answer!”The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, “See youtomorrow.”
I wasn’t that crazy about the Clintons.
But based on the people who so hate them?
They are looking better to me all the time.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Posted by: J R
Well JR you just supported Bush’s support for Saddam in the war agains Iran.
Thanks!
A few weeks ago, I posted a revelation gained from a Democrat I know, that everyone is supporting Hillary because they think that Bill will be calling the shots.
It turns out my friend may have been right on target!
Go Bill!!!
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/floridapolitics/entries/2007/12/12/vote_for_hillary_get_bill_free.html
Vote for Hillary, get Bill free!By S.V. Date | Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 06:44 PM
If Hillary Clinton becomes the first woman president, she’ll accomplish another “first” that supporters are less eager to acknowledge: She’ll be the first candidate to win with the support of many who are really more interested in the candidate’s spouse.
“The underlying reason is a yearning for a Bill Clinton third term,” one South Florida Democratic official who supports Clinton said privately. “The feeling is that he is a power behind the throne.”
Supporters of her Democratic rivals similarly say she appeals to many in their party who long for a return to the Clinton years. “There is no question that this is about Bill Clinton’s third term,” said Chuck Greene, a Tampa supporter of Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
The feelings are not new, nor are they confined to Florida. A New York Times/CBS national poll released Tuesday found that among Democratic voters, “married to Bill Clinton” was the second most popular reason Hillary Clinton supporters cited for their choice. “Good experience” came in first with 16 percent, while 13 percent cited her husband.
That same poll found that 44 percent of Democratic voters are more likely to vote for Hillary because of Bill, compared with 7 percent who said they were less likely.
Official Government Report of the vadalism by ClintonPosted by: Hotdog | December 13, 2007 at 09:26 AM
What keys should Bush steal as payback to Clintons:
Houston Chronicle — Jan. 23, 2001, 11:19AMHey, buddy, can you spare a W?
Reuters — WASHINGTON — Call it the strange case of the missing Ws.
President George W. Bush has lost his middle initial from many computer keyboards at the Old Executive Office Building in the White House complex. In an apparent prank carried out by departing Clinton administration staffers, Bush aides discovered that dozens of computer keyboards were missing the “W” key. Bush aides said today that the W was marked out in some cases but often the key had been removed — and sometimes taped on top of doorways — or damaged with the spring broken.
The new team was studying whether any of the keyboards could be salvaged, but it appeared in many cases they would simply have to be replaced. In the West Wing, the computers seemed not to have been vandalized. “I have my W,” White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said.
Bush made a big deal out of his middle initial during campaign rallies, often holding up the middle three fingers of his hand to form a W. He is often popularly referred to as “Dubya.” Bush’s middle name is Walker. He would joke to crowds that if his Democratic presidential rival, Al Gore, was so smart, why did every Internet address start with a W. “And not just one W — three Ws!” he would exult.
Bush aides were working to repair or replace the keys.