The office of Attorney General Paul Morrison announced that he will make a statement at 3 p.m. today. Some are expecting a resignation announcement. Harris News Service reported that Linda Carter confided to Johnson County District Attorney Phill Kline about her affair with Morrison before filing a sexual harassment complaint. The article also includes more detailed allegations against Morrison, including that he made telephone calls threating to bad-mouth Carter to prospective employers.
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She expected Kline would fire her if he knew, looked like he may have been the one to use his position to extract what he wanted from her.
If Morrison is gone, we can move on. If he stays, Kline and the Sidewalk Crawlers will continue to rake us all through the coals.
I am absolutely amazed at how ignorant Morrison was to be banging an employee.Inside, he must have been reeling when Kline took over the Johnson County job. How awful a feeling to have your enemy sitting so close to your meek toothless low IQ piece of trashy poontang.
Owee Al!
Don’t hold back now. :)
Now, it will be curious what Morrison has to say and if he resigns.
Next it will be interesting to see who Sebelius puts in as Attorney General.
Grab your socks and…well GI’s and former GI’s know the rest of that tune.
Come On! Eagle! Ms. Carter is an adult who had consenting sex with the AG. We need to see her face!. She needs to be exposed publicaly. This dirty backstabing trash queen. I can just hear her”oh phil, can I lay my head on your lap and tell you a story?” “please, mr. phil” “Oh! Mr. Phil, do you have some certs in your pocket?” “big paulie, he yelled at me. i don’t wike him anymore….I wike you” ” i like certs, can i fish around in your pants and find the certs philly?”
drop your —- and grab your socks
if Morrison has any sense of self – he will high tail it out of state with a big bag of money and relocate someplace where he can get some, have some, and loathsome.
remember boys – women are really really really bad losers.
Al,
I like your 1:38 post, but your 1:47 post reeks of misogyny.
So Kathleen puts in a Democrat that drops the misdemeanor charges against Tiller?
I still think that the State might be better off if Morrison stsys.
Morrison is a fighter.
If he quits, there is something huge here.
Econ,
Morrison hasn’t even resigned yet (as of this posting, at least), and you’re already accusing Sebelius of interfering in a criminal prosecution?
What do you base this on? Do you have facts?
Or is this the sound of the excessive beans you ate last night?
Tom,
It would appear that I got carried away.Some years ago I was falsely accused of sexual harrasment in the workplace. The female who made the statements was angry at me because I reported her for failure to perform her job duties.
Fortunately, her story held no water BUT I was still investigated AND I was assumed to be guilty….up until the point that she began contradicting herself.She is/was/forever will be an idiot of low scum regard.She lost and she tried to make me pay. What she/they did not realize…and what I never told them(HR)…was that I am gay. ha ha.
Everyone likes to get laid…but every needs a job.The job comes first, so to speak.
ECON 101, you seem be stuck in the 101 course level for quite a long time. Is there a learning disability? An inability to comprehend reality?Do you need remedial training? If so, please join the Democratic Party. We will help you achieve higher intellect.
TomI have accused no one of anything.
Kathleen Sebelius is in the back pocket of George Tiller.
I would not be surprised if, whoever she puts in, the charges against Tiller will be dropped.
What is out of line about that?
Hold on. George Tiller operates a legal service. How he spends his money, who he supports, is all legitimate. It is not corrupt to support a candidate. And it is every bit real to think candidates will have an open ear to big donors. That’s how it works. We don’t like it. But…
The Star is reporting is stepping down because this controversy has been very hard on his children. That is a highly admirable act and a side of him we should have seen two years ago.
And yes, Tom, many of the comments have been extremely misogynistic. Remember how upset everyone on your side was with Clarence Thomas for allegedly just teasing Anita Hill in a sexual manner a few years back.
Again, Morrison as a parent is apparently a far more decent human being than Morrison the husband. Good for him for putting his children first.
The kids come first. Women, another story.
Being a tattle tale is a sorry pathetic way to lead an adult life. I hope Ms. Carter finds solace with Satan.
Yes, one would look for consistency, but then again, we don’t know the nature of his relationship with his wife.
One rumor had it that the tatoo of carter’s initials was in his groin. If that’s the last place his spouse would look for something, perhaps we have an explanation for his wandering. All of that obviously conjecture.
Morrison is dealing with two scorned women (and several investigations that aren’t going away). He has a long row to hoe before he gets his life back in any semblance of normality.
When will this country figure out that a man or women’s sexual life has nothing to do with their ability to lead. Paul Morrison is a good man. Phil Kline is not a good man. Nothing that has evolved in the past week has changed that reality.Never forget that Phil Kline used and wasted more taxpayer money on his quest for abortion jihad than Paul Morrison wrote off as hotel room expense.
If Morrison does indeed step down, I also wonder who Sebelius would pick. One good candidate would be the guy who would have been AG if he had actually run an active campaign; Chris Biggs.
Don’t let the rotten faced Kline’s smiling keep you from still believing we are moving in the right direction. Morrison may just get all cowboy and take care of this problem the old fashioned way.
Chris Biggs is the real deal. He is my pick. Anything to get him off the backs of all the GOOD HONEST financial professionals in Kansas.
Kathleen Sebelius is in the back pocket of George Tiller.
Posted by: Econ101 | December 14, 2007 at 02:13 PM
Which is exactly why she signed the bill that declares a fetus a “person,” right? Because she’s in the “back pocket” of Dr. Tiller?
Good grief. Some people have NO grasp on reality.
Ms. Carter is a cowardly ignorant spineless person. She took the man down, was too weak to handle her own behavior, and then quit her job. I hope she suffers for many years to come. Scum like her….deserves something evil in her life.She actually gave sworn testimony!!!! Did she even have a lawyer? This women needs her face plastered on the front page. She is not a victim, she is a dumb pathetic case for getting laid.I hate her, forever.
This simple simon silly woman has single handidly destroyed so much for so many people. She was NEVER a victim. I hope one of the damn papers will track her down and get some ink on this witch. Hell, waterboard her!!!
And when will this country discover that those who are immoral are usually also unethical? Witness Paul Morrison. He is not only accused of immoral acts, he is accused of several unethical acts. The two go hand-in-hand.
If she is this weak…she will probably be too weak to commit suicide…which would be the honorable thing for her to do.
what was immoral?
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getting laid because your marriage is old and sexless is not immoral, it is human. Getting divorced because your marriage is sexless and old – what is that?
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
I’ll repeat what I said last week: Sex with the hired help is wrong. Morrison should resign for that, nevermind the other, so-far unproven, allegations. If those turn out to be true, he’ll be losing a lot more than his office.
If she is this weak…she will probably be too weak to commit suicide…which would be the honorable thing for her to do.
Posted by: Rex | December 14, 2007 at 02:40 PM
You indeed are a sick individual.
Tom,
you are correct, sir.
littlejohn,there is honor in the taking of one’s own life. She will find honor no where else.
Well, at least when Morrison screwed her, she got kissed. I doubt if she got kissed when Kline screwed her!
“I’ll repeat what I said last week: Sex with the hired help is wrong. Morrison should resign for that,”
Bingo. Both unethical and immoral.
And there is no honor in taking the easy way out. Killing yourself is the ultimate cowardice.
Like I said when the story first came out, you wouldn’t have to dig very far to undercover Kline.
Morrison’s resignation is effective January 31.
At least he has the courage to admit what he did, that is was wrong, and he is stepped down. He never once claimed he didn’t do this, never lied under oath, never disputed the definition of the word “is” and never claimed on television that he “never had sex with that woman..” as a famous liar did.
Hey RS, your “joke” about Republicans and Democrats would be better served on the Open Board.
As of January 31st 2008 Morrison will resign. This sounds like Senator Craig. I will resign but I am innocent. What kind of wide stance is this? I wonder if the Governor will ignore the wishes of the Kansas Citizens and appoint Kline back to continue to sabatoge us all?? We need to stay on top of this and demand that Kline not be allowed to return in any capacity to the AG Office. Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist west.herb@yahoo.com
al; Larned State Hosp called. Your 1:00 meds were not taken.
It’s not about the sex, it’s the lie, No, wait a minute, it is about the sex!
Herbert, unless Sebelius is in the pocket of the Johnson County Republican Party, I am really not too worried about her appointing Kline to the position.
My guess is that it is indeed likely to be Biggs, but I could very well be wrong.
Cal me al
I have to agree, suicide is never honorable.Perhaps diving on a hand grenade, to protect the lives of others, but that is not suicide, that is selfless sacrifice.Killing yourself to avoid consequences?
That is cowardice.
However, I would like to see Biggs.Mainly because I would like to see him promoted out of his current job.
HerbertYou are rather naive about politics, arent you?Why on Earth would Sebelius appoint Kline?
Sebelius is a Democrat.
She will appoint a Democrat.
Strange, I’m getting a funny font here. Oh Well.
Biggs would be the same disaster he would have been the first time around. We need someone to enforce the law and Sebelius won’t give us that.
Oh yah,
She MIGHT appoint a RINO who switches parties.
She has done it before, huh?
She SHOULD appoint a Democrat. The people of Kansas ELECTED a Democrat.
To all you Kline supporters – WAH! You lost – remember?
I know what would REALLY piss you guys off – appoint Foulston.
I know what would REALLY piss you guys off – appoint Foulston.
Posted by: Ben | December 14, 2007 at 03:28 PM——————————–YES BEN – THAT WOULD EVEN PISS ME OFF.
That’d be funny.
An old line – every man has two heads. And when all the blood is going to one of them there isn’t any left for the other one. So, thinking ceases.
Ben”No File Nola” would be ok with me.I like her, personally.More importantly, I think we can beat her, in the next election.I think the same way about Biggs.
Funny story on Biggs, he was running the “turn in scams” table, at the State Fair. He was accross from the Scientology booth.
I asked if it was a “stake out” and pointed accross the aisle.
Biggs did NOT get it!
She MIGHT appoint a RINO who switches parties.Posted by: Econ101 | December 14, 2007 at 03:22 PM
Moderate Republicans are jumping the sinking KSGOP ship not because they’re RINOs, they’re leaving because the radicals who have hijacked the party have absolutely nothing to do with “conservatism.”
He was accross from the Scientology booth. I asked if it was a “stake out”Posted by: Econ101 | December 14, 2007 at 03:33 PM
Unlike today’s so-called “conservatives,” Chris Biggs is conservative enough to still believe in the founding principles of this nation – that everyone has the inalienable right to worship as they choose.
That Econ thinks Scientology is somehow “criminal” says a lot about what has become of American conservatism.
R.I.P.
TomYour hatred for conservatives is ridiculous.
I wish the Kansas GOP would lighten up on the Evolution VS Creation stuff. I do not think they are mutually exclusive.
I also wish they would not be so fantically anti-gambling.
However, when you see the radical evolutions, who think evolution disproves creation, or the radical pro-gambling people, who gripe about “pay day loans” but dont mind legalized theft through gambling — well, they have a point, even though I wish they would shut up about it.
The truth is, Tom, the Kansas Republican Party represents the views of Ronald Reagan.
If you feel out of place, try to figure out what party Nelson Rockefeller or Gerald Ford would belong to today.
Don’t blame the Party.
When the Party agreed with you, we lost all the time!
Good point Tom, it would be great for Sebelius to choose a moderate Republican.
TomIt was a JOKE!
However, L. Ron Hubbard was one of the most successful hucksters in history.
One year prior to starting his religion, he made the comment that if he really wanted to get rich, he should “start his own religion”.
Scientology is a scam.
The followers of the scam have every right to be stupid.
I have every right to tell them that they are stupid.
And, Tom, we have radical atheists, on this Blog, that call Jesus a “zombie” and trash religious people all the time.
Please forgive me if I have not noticed, but I don’t believe that I have seen your vocal defense, of people of faith, ever before, have I?
“TomYour hatred for conservatives is ridiculous…The truth is, Tom, the Kansas Republican Party represents the views of Ronald Reagan.”Posted by: Econ101 | December 14, 2007 at 03:40 PM
Ha! Here’s someone who really doesn’t know Tom…at all. It’s funny and wrong all at the same time! Tom’s pretty darned conservative and I’ve never known him to be a self-loather.
Ronald Reagan? Seriously? Would a president so in favor of personal freedom really have been cool with loyalty oaths? It’s more like the party of the 700 Club these days, at least the side of it that actually wins elections.
Econ – I am also inclined to think Scientology is a scam – BUT – how can I judge? Maybe I also think Vernon Howell’s church was also a scam. However, I think you have defended Howell’s ‘church’ as being legitimate.
Remember – one man’s ’scam’ or ‘cult’ is someone else’s religion.
Resigning is the right thing to do. He had a sexual affair with a member of his staff.
Legal issues aside, what Morrison did was unethical. If he couldn’t use his best judgment before, I’m glad he’s using it now by resigning.
Okay, He had an AFFAIR, GET OVER IT!! She filed a complaint she has the right to do so. Just like if you get hurt at work you can file a Work Comp claim whether your boss thinks it’s a good idea or not. Leave her alone, Leave Kline and Morrison alone. You must hate yourselves a LOT the way you’re slamming everyone else. Good God people get real lives
Ronald Reagan was an idiot. Yes, the Kansas GOP is very much like Ronald Reagan, especially in his later years.
Thinking….blah blah,This dim witted spread eagle nitwit named Carter is a flubbing idiot who destroys lives. Send her to Saadi Arabia and line her up for 200 lashes. She is scum.
Econ,
President Ford was in favor of full equality for gay and lesbian Americans.
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=279
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“…in October 2001 he notably went on the record in support of gay rights issues, including full marriage equality at the federal level, in an interview with Deb Price of the Detroit News. (PNO):
“I think they (same-sex couples) should be treated equally. Period,” he said.
In addition, he stated support for a federal law banning workplace discrimination against gays: “That is a step in the right direction. I have a longstanding record in favor of legislation to do away with discrimination.”
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Ford was also in favor of the traditionally conservative principle of staying out of other women’s uterus – he was staunchly pro-choice.
There was a time when I was proud to be a Republican. Those times are gone.
I truly hope Chris is the governor’s pick.
I grew up with Chris in Manhattan…and let me tell you, the guy’s full of surprises.Just when you think you know him…he goes off and surprises you.Something for his potential opponents to think about.
Thinking the Whole Lot of you are Nuts and Bigots,
We do have real lives. I’m a Democrat. I worked for the Democratic party in an effort to get Morrison elected. And I’m pissed. I have every right to be. It’s not just that he had an affair, it’s that he did so while asking for our votes. He engaged in a sexual relationship with a subordinate (which would get a person fired in any other job) and then he covered it up. That’s not even touching on everything else he’s been accused of. I do have a life, and a big part of it is trying to get good people elected. Do you have any idea how disconcerting it is to work your ass off for someone and then have them turn out to be a total disappointment? Don’t come in here and tell people how to feel about betrayal.
Okay, I should probably turn off the lights and put my head on my desk now.
That last post was me by the way. TypeKey doesn’t like me right now.
“Please forgive me if I have not noticed, but I don’t believe that I have seen your vocal defense, of people of faith, ever before, have I?”
You just did, Econ. Scientologists are indeed a “people of faith”. And yes, I have seen Tom defend Christians as a broad population from more broad brush anti-Christian posters. You were probably too busy performing partisan knee jerk blogging to pay attention.
Point of reality, Econ. It was not Morrison who beat Kline, and it was not Democrats who beat the Christian Right State Board of Education incumbants. They beat themselves by irritating those who normally wouldn’t pay attention to what they are doing. The Christian Right is both the current Republican Party’s biggest asset and their biggest liability. They are an asset because, particularly when joined with the “Eeek! Eeek! Wealth redistribution!! Socialism!! Government/welfare bum thieves are the greatest eeevil in the world!” knee-jerks, they form the largest block of politically obsessed people in American politics. Thus, they are consistent and very successful when everyone is relatively satisfied with their existing voting patterns. On the other hand, the CR has a history of being so obsessed with getting their way any way they can on their pet issues that they sacrifice good governance. When they do this, they get noticed by voters who do not share their obsessions. Eventually, they tick those voters off. Phill Kline is a victim of his own behavior. He nearly lost to Chris Biggs because even though the latter hardly ran a campaign, there were enough people who knew of his record in eastern Kansas that they changed their typical voting pattern of selecting the person with a (R) next to their name. When he continued to pursue his pet anti-abortion and also supported one side of the Kansas State School Board against the other, he got the attention of more foul weather voters. If the Kansas Republican Party does not learn from this, if they continue to allow the CR activists to decide nominations, then they will contunue tick off the foul weather voters and lose in a state where their party typically has an enormous advantage. It may continue to be every other election, but Tom is very correct about the problems of the Kansas Republican Party, and a number of national pundits still don’t get it with regards to the national party (they still think the Democratic gains in 2006 were ALL about Iraq). If the Christian Right overplays their hand, and continues to try to use any political office they obtain to prioritize and force their points of view on a narrow range of issues, the foul weather voters who change their patterns of voting when they are unhappy (or for that matter ONLY vote when they are unhappy) come out, and the Republicans lose.
I think, to sums things up:
1) Morrison screwed up
2) He resigned
3) Someone other than Kline should investigate what happened
Anyone have a problem with any of that?
It’s time for the blood letting to start in Bloody Kansas
In my opinion Morrison could have easily cut a deal with his former girl friend to avoid the sexual harrassment lawsuit which will now be dropped. In my opinion the legal establishment (Kansas Bar Association leadership & large poltically connected law firms turned on Morrison because he was too much of a maverick and was too unpredictable.
More than one pro-life GOP judge in Wichita have done a lot worse by tradng sexual favors with female divorce attorneys.
Are there any Democrat reformers at the grass roots level in Kansas or are they like lemings blindly supporting Gov. Sebellius who is the former lobbyist for the trial lawyers association & her hubbby who is a federal judge?
Too bad Morrison did not have the courage to be a true reformer. Read Morrison’s statement below. Talk is cheap. I wonder if he will demonstrate more courage as a private attorney or will he just slink back into the good old boy network.
Bill McKeankiakahahaha@yahoo.com316 293-6079
Here’s the text of Attorney General Paul Morrison’s statement as provided by his office:
“I have spent my entire career and most of my life in public service. First, as a line prosecutor for eight years, then for eighteen years as Johnson County District Attorney. And now as Attorney General. My priority has never been politics. It has always been to do a good job for the people I serve.
“Throughout my career, I have always fought for justice as a prosecutor. I’ve represented the victims and their families in their search for justice. I’ve held others accountable for their actions, and now I must be held accountable for my mistakes. Many people feel betrayed by my actions. And they have every right to feel that way.
“I’ve made mistakes in my personal life, but I have always obeyed our laws and done the right thing as a professional.
“I ran for Attorney General because I believed Kansans deserved a prosecutor dedicated to putting criminals behind bars, not someone preoccupied with politics.
“The Kansas Office of the Attorney General does so much to protect Kansas families and enforce the laws of this state. During this first year, I done everything I can to rebuild this office.
“In just one year, we have accomplished so much. We got the office back on track, started a domestic violence unit, cracked down on cyber crime and refocused the office on the basics of law enforcement. I have had the pleasure of working with many wonderful, hard working Kansans and law enforcement officers.
“Because of my actions in my personal life, many people have stopped believing in me which is damaging the office, my staff and the State.
“My actions caused pain and sadness to many people I love. I have been working for some time to get right with God, get right with my family and get right with friends and address my personal problems—and I will continue to do so.
“In order to preserve the public’s confidence in this office, today I am announcing my resignation as Attorney General effective Friday, January 31st, 2008.
“After careful thought and deliberation, I have concluded that my resignation is in the best long-term interests of the people of Kansas.
“Not because I have ever done anything contrary to the laws of this state or the ethical standards of my profession, but because law enforcement should be the focus of this office, not my personal life.
“I’ve always been a fighter. I’ve never backed down from challenges. I have great faith in our system of justice and believe the truth ultimately comes out. And it will in this case.
“I pledge to spend the next month working with the staff of this office to ensure a smooth transition. I am proud to have provided leadership to this office and I am confident my dedicated team will continue to do great things for the people of Kansas.”
I hope Morrison drops our meth case.
Paul – i will add to KsAg’s comment that I, too, will vigorously defend my Catholic wife.
Ksagnostic,
Thanks.
I didn’t even know how to respond to Econ’s nasty comments about my supposed lack of respect for people’s faiths. You saved me from launching a nasty tirade. :)
Does this mean we can’t come back and play?
Everything will be alright. Us Catholics, we molested God’s little children, and the congregation just keeps coming back. I knew it wasn’t that big a deal.But about this adultery thing, Morrison shall burn in hell and that tart he slept with, she shall bow to satan forever.
Well, I’ll see all you Catholics on Sunday. Oh goody, this week I am teaching Sunday school!!
Perhaps Sebelius will go to a County Attorney and pick GMC. :):) :)
After reading Wiki on L. Ron H., I’m amazed that he has any followers at all.
I was against this.
But.
Morrison was a defecting Republican running against a loon and the excesses of his party.
Sebelius can appoint a real Democrat to replace him.
I guess some were not thoughtful about what they wished for.
Okay, he did the right thing under the circumstances.
It’s too bad RepubliCONs can’t ever resign for the common good.
Larry CraigDick “Hallibillions” CheneyGeorge WMD Bush
Come on W.E. blog monitors. The 4:35 post by Cardinal O’Connor should be removed at once. I’m not Catholic but I am deeply offended by that post and can only imagine what Catholics would feel about it. By the way, I would rather leave my kids alone with just about any Catholic Priest than with any of you S.P’s
Anyway you look at it, the Democratic Party wins. A target is removed for Kline to lash out at, and Sebelius gets to appoint the AG. My bet is on Chris Biggs.
Yup, I agree, Apop.
If the appointed AG does a decent job, then he – she will be a strong contender next election cycle.
Yes, this is what I mean Tom
The “Cardinal O’Conner” post was way out of line.
However, you jumped my case, for a joke I made, to Chris Biggs, about Scientology being a scam?
Do you approve of the Catholic bashing, on this thread, Tom?
BenIf the ATF raided the Scientology Center, on Douglas, with massive force, when it was full of children, when a simple subpoena could have been served, instead, I would support Kirstie Allie in a Heart Beat!Scientologists are goofy.But, they still deserve due process and should not be treated like an invading enemy.
Econ,
I don’t approve of *anyone* bashing people because of their faith. I also don’t approve of people who believe differently than I trying to impose their faith on me.
I don’t monitor the blog, and don’t sit here reading it 24 hours a day. I have a pretty busy work schedule. I also don’t respond to sock-puppets, which “Cardinal” clearly is.
I typically stay out of fights over faith, unless the comments are directed specifically at me. And I never, never discuss my beliefs on this blog. A) I believe they are a private matter, and B) and I’m not going to open myself to the kinds of attacks people like Nathan or Chas endure/invite (and yeah, I think they (and others) BOTH invite it sometimes).
Fair enough, Tom
I am thinking that some confuse Scientology with Christian Science.
I believe in neither, but one is definately more goofy than the other.
Anyway, I was making the point that Biggs didn’t even GET my joke.
They were doing “audits” — holding those things in their hands while this meter runs, and Biggs didnt understand why I was laughing.
(My adult daughter got sucked into it, but I refused to be “audited” by the Scientologists, and went over to talk to Biggs, instead.)
Econ,
My comments earlier weren’t about Scientology. I don’t believe what they do, and I don’t CARE what they believe. It’s up to them.
My comments were about where I’ve seen “conservatism” be perverted into something unrecognizable by the radical-religious intolerants that have seized control of the Kansas Republican Party. I thought that your comment displayed exactly the kind of intolerance this nation was founded to avoid, and exactly the kind of intolerance I believe has destroyed the Republican Party.
Tom
I think I get it:
“You tolerate everything, EXCEPT for those things that YOU find intolerant!”
Econ,
I have enough consideration for you that I don’t sit here and make up “quotes” that you never said. I’d appreciate it if you would be adult enough to show me the same consideration.
And yeah, I think it’s intolerable for others to try to impose their beliefs on people who don’t believe as they do. Read a history book, Econ: THAT’S WHY THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED. Aren’t you all about original intent?
Tom
I do not believe that the founders supported abortion on demand, at taxpayer expense, with no parental involvement over minors, at any stage of the pregnancy.
I also do not believe that the founders supported “gay marriage”.
I don’t want to prosecute women who find themselves in a bad spot.
I want to regulate the medical practice.
I don’t want anyone to track down or do physical harm to gays. Gays have the same property rights and right to be protected, under the law, as everyone else.
However, it is weird how you liberals say people are, somehow, “forcing” their views on you, when it is you libs that want to change the status quo.
The country is, for the most part, “live and let live”.
Quit advocating radical change, and the right will loose its power, fast!
Econ,
The Founders believed in having the government stay out of people’s business. If you want to make a list of things that WEREN’T on the Founder’s radar, where do we start?
Rockets to the moon? Regulation of automatic trading on the electronic exchanges of the securities industry? “Floating” currency? Invading distant nations that never attacked us? Giving blacks their freedom? Giving renters and women the right to vote?
I bet the Founders didn’t think about ANY of those things. But they DID think about religious intolerance. They DID think about excessive government power, and how that power could be abused by getting involved in people’s private lives.
We could sit here and throw lists back and forth all night long, but I’d miss my dinner party, so we won’t.
Also: You keep calling me a “liberal.” To quote Inigo Montoya, “I do not think that word means what you think it means.”
Have a lovely evening.
What an interesting statement, “I thought that your comment displayed exactly the kind of intolerance this nation was founded to avoid”. Were the founding fathers a tolerant lot? They were rather intolerant of a woman’s right to vote, african americans’ rights to be equal,and native americans’ rights to exist.
And the Blogitzer Prize undoubtedly goes to ‘RS’ with bipartisan thanks. You really know how to say it.
last night I googled paul morrison and looked over several of his campaign mailers that were sent out statewide. One of them had Mr. Morrison and his family , wife prominently up front, posing in front of the welcome sign of the Catholic Church where they attended,extolling Mr. Morrison’s heartfelt desire to preserve the family unit and protect it. At the time that photo was taken he was entangled regularly with Mrs. Carter. I also read about a confrontation that took place at a Kline speaking engagement with Joyce Morrison during which she told Mr. Kline that he should be ashamed of himself for the damage and shame that he had caused her family when he had brought up the questionable ethics of Mr. Morrison during an alleged Sexual harrasment incident that was brought to court, then dismissed by mutual agreement for lack of evidence. Ms. Morrison was aggressive in denigrating mr. Kline for inferring that her husband would do such a thing. At that time Mr. Morrison was regularly entangled with ms. Carter, and saw no reason to spare his wife the incredible embarrasment that she must have felt after the election when she called mr. Kline to apologize for her remarks. at that point she was apparently aware of the ethical mettle of her gallant husband. You may cast every curse you can think of upon Ms. Carter, but since Mr. Morrison readily admits that he ardently pursued the affiar while allowing his family to carry the family values torch, you must also admit that the hero that you supported to rid the world of Adolph Kline is as phoney as a three dollar bill, and crooked as the day is long. One other thing, I am sure that his Catholic church fellow worshipers are very proud of his stand supporting abortion. Legal, maybe, but eternally damnable if you are a Catholic. OK if you are a hypocritcal Catholic that only attends church for image, though.
Tom,”Rockets to the moon? Regulation of automatic trading on the electronic exchanges of the securities industry? “Floating” currency? Invading distant nations that never attacked us? Giving blacks their freedom? Giving renters and women the right to vote?”
I hate to tell you, but I’ve run into a number of hard-core right-wingers who would if they could undo everything you just listed.
One ungody-rich-old-bastard in this town (dead now) was vociferously of the opinion that black people were not by any definiton human, and probably should have been exterminated after the civil war. He also had a thing about “Feminazi’s,”who were any women that didn’t instantly do whatever he wanted. Even as a billionaire, he couldn’t resist cheating poor people out of anything they might have, simply because he could. He disowned his son when he discovered he was gay. He adored Hitler, but did business with Stalin. His was a huge chunk of the money that started the neo-con movement, and is still one of the Quoted Ones of the conservative movement.
Don’t get your hopes too high on any possible progression among conservatives.
Don’t get your hopes too high on any possible progression among conservatives.
Posted by: Jed | December 14, 2007 at 07:18 PM
What you defined wasn’t a conservative Jed.
You do need to get your ideological “thinking cap” on.
What you described was a racist, sexist, greedy old man.
One can be a conservative and identify with the Democrat, Republican or Independent party.
The bloggers here on WE are too quick to put people into a box of either party and it just doesn’t work that way.
I consider myself just to the right of a blue dog Democrat on some occasions and on other issues I might be right in the middle of a true Conservative Republican.
Most people, except for true diehard left libs or nutjob Right win Republicans are of a single mind when it comes to Politics.
It’s why elections get flipped on their head on occasion when voters swing to issues they identify with (if they are in the middle or close to it)
are of a single mind when it comes to Politics.
should read
Most people are not of a single mind when it comes to Politics
Sebelius will appoint a AG who will refuse to buck her Casino Persoanl Agenda and one who will refuse to stop her theft of State resources. In the way the idiot tricked us with a recommendation of Morrison so he would resign and she chooses instead of us speaks loud and clear. We will have a Dictatorship Government. We lost our right to vote for our AG because he was busy screwing another woman. I hope you realize he also screwed us. Theives dont follow party lines. They only screw everyone.. Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist. west.herb@yahoo.com
Kans,”What you defined wasn’t a conservative Jed.You do need to get your ideological “thinking cap” on.What you described was a racist, sexist, greedy old man.”
Considering how many in the right wing still quote him, I’d say it’s a political movement of mostly racist, sexist, greedy old men.
Some people quote Shakespeare’s plays as well, but it doesn’t mean they are literary masters of the arts.
You are still way off in your assumptions Jed.
Johnson County appointed Kline, Sebelius will appoint her choice, when do we the citizens of Kansas get our votes to count.She will choice a AG to let her Casino slide thru ILLEGALLY. All her persoanl agendas just raped us. We have too wait 3 years to pull our pants up and everyone seems to except this. We have lost 3889 soldiers who have been killed in Iraq stopping Dictatorship only to suck a$# and bow to it here. We thanks 3889 dead soldiers by kissing a&* and sucking up to that B&t(h Governor and that Sexual Predator AG and the Johnson County Cultist is DA’s cloaks!!!! We are sick and have pulled the trigger on 3889 soldiers. Herbert West III. Publisher/Journalist west.herb@yahoo.com
HERB, take a deep breath, hold it for a few seconds and slowly exhale… repeat a few times… until you feel better. it just isn’t worth blowing out an artery. Those people don’t care about you.
I always find it interesting that many of the people who oppose the war because of the death of soldiers support the killing of unborn children. Go figure… HERB, HERB, go back to the first paragraph and practice your breathing exercises. Relax now.
Besides, who really cares about Morrison’s situation. He isn’t the first and he won’t be the last to sleep with someone other than his/her spouse while in office. He’s done just like Kennedy and Clinton and other politicians (and regular people) have done.
I oppose abortion. I am seeing that the Governor decides our AG for the next 3 years, not us. We dont get a vote. We have no choice. Dictaorship defines. We have no say so. We are worse than the Iraqis. Our support sytem is there. We are here. They get a vote. We dont. Governor Sebelius is Governor and the AG. The situation, agreed is lame. People sleep around all the time. The Laws broken in this are important. Again, the result is we go under a Dictatorship. If we had our State Constitutional Rights upheld, thru his Impeachment we the peole woulkd be allowed a special election to vote for a AG. Now we just have too wait 3 years to get our Democracy back. Those 3 years will be the same as Sebelius time left as Governor on term limits. The same as Bush. Congress refuses to buck him. We have had to eat crap for his last 3 years. I am tired of people being lazy and just excepting to be slaves. All the slaves and people who died standing up so we could be free are thanked with the “What a bunch of Dumba$%es” approach on how we live in thanking them. Rosa Parks said no to Bigots on a bus and we thank her by giving Bigot Sebelius the keys and bending over in front of the bus and letting her drive over us. We disrespect our ancestors and Bow to stupidity. We allow the killing of our fellow man because we are so special. Our ancestors were hung with barbed wire and burned. Hung for taking food they grew for the masta because they were starving. They were Shot and killed for trying to stop the masta from taking their children and raping them in front of them. Indians were put on small reservations in their own land. Japanese Americans were put in concentration camps because they looked different than the Bigot Whites. Women got beat to hell because they wanted the right to vote. We thank all these people for their sacrifices with a healthy masta won attitude. “I will die a humanbeing before I live the life of the exceptable slave”!!! What might surprise you, I am white. How dare I respect a black, jap, indian, jew, bit$h, etc:.. I should be ashamed because I dont flex my white rights. I am proud to be human, that keeps me to busy instead of taking the time to concentrate on being “Masta White”. “”"Thank GOD”"”. Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist, west.herb@yahoo.com
Herbert, while I dont disagree with everything you say, I must state, clearly, that politics is the wrong place for you.
You will truly NEVER be happy with anyone who holds public office.
Again folks,
Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was one of the most racist people in history.
She was a liberal, not a conservative.
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd is a former member of the Ku Klux Klan.
Please quit throwing around cheap attacks.
Conservatism does not, in any way, endorse racism.
Paul, I’ve already called you out on your lies about Sanger before. Looks like stupid people never learn and dishonest people never want to.
Econ101, Why is it that unless I bow to stupidity and let crooks walk all over me will I not understand Politics?? I have “”ZERO”" problems with Senator Barack Obama. I respect Captain Ladner and the rest of the I.A. Professional Standard Unit for the Kansas Highway Patrol. I respect Senator Kay O’Connor { retired}, I respect and speak with Laura Grahmn in the KBI headqurters regularly. I respect Stanton Hazlett the Administrator of the Kansas Diciplinary Office in Topeka, I speak with Candidate Gravels staff often, I respect Council Women McGee in Osawatomie Kansas. I have a friend who is a Judge, I respect Judge Trigg in Olthe District court. She is cool. I respect Sheriff Green in Wyandotte county. I have friends who a deputies, paramedics, nurses, Doctors, etc:..Politics is not just “Vote and lay low” It is for the people by the people. I respect what is respectable, I refuse to respect that that is disrespectable. I have a pretty fair grasp of, fair Politcs!!! Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist, west.herb@yahoo.com
Herb,I notice you identify yourself as a “Publisher/Journalist.” Have you considered hiring an Editor to occupy the space between the two?