Mitt Romney suggested that fellow GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee was un-Republican in criticizing President Bush’s foreign policy. But Huckabee merely stated what is obvious to a large majority of Americans — the Bush administration’s foreign policy has had serious problems. In an article in Foreign Affairs magazine, Huckabee wrote: “American foreign policy needs to change its tone and attitude, open up, and reach out. The Bush administration’s arrogant bunker mentality has been counterproductive at home and abroad.â€
Huckabee said that his article wasn’t intended as a slam but was “an evaluation of how we can improve.â€
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I admire Huckabee on several levels, but he actually shows his lack of experience, with this comment.
Sometimes, when other countries do not like our policy, we should wear that as a badge of honor.
David Limbaughs take, and I agree with it:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59258
I love it when the Republicams have a meltdown!!
America as the “the city on the hill” shining guidance to the dark world. Well, Bush and his enablers, e.g., RepublEcon, have been quite good at setting example to the world how to be a bully society and then throw temper tantrum like a 5-year-old when told to behave.
At least once a day I end up wondering if there is even a shred of the Republican party left that President Reagan was a part of. We have gone so far away from what the party truly once was, watching the Senate hearing on FICA it sounded more what I would have suspected listening in on the Government of Stalin’s Russia. Paul if you can not see or admit that this has not just been the greatest mistake in America’s foreign policy since the selling of arms to Iran. WE are not even close to being in the same party, we are not a nation who believes in acting on nothing more then a feeling. That is not the actions of a great nation but those of a rogue nation. It was the goal of the Communists to spreading their ideology but brut force if need be. Not a free and lawful country, once build on the ideals of indivisible rights and all men are created equal. It is the duty of not just every Republican but every American to stand up and say it has been wrong!The Bush doctrine reads more like a copy of the goals of Stalin’s Soviet Union then even the Wilson doctrine. And at least Wilson had his heart in the right place and was looking for the best interests of America. The Bush doctrine is purely driven by spreading his bastardized version of the freest form of government there is. Much like Bin Laden is working to spread his own version of Islam, neither resemble the true core other then in name.
Dog,
I suspect the reason for the view of the Republican Party now is as much focus on how the American Public as changed as perhaps those in the Administration are perceived.
When Reagan was in office, there was no Moveon.org or a zillion Liberal Websites or even the Internet as we know it today.
All of sudden as we cleared the millennium hump, everyone thinks they are an expert and give their opinion world wide in spades.
I’m still pretty much the same person as I was during the 80s, just a lot older. :)
Also, not calculated in the factor is a larger population of older and more cynical adults.
Most of the Boomers don’t have their grandparents or older relatives to consult on such matters. So, they are making it up as the go along.
I call it a developing conscious without a guide.
Grandpa or Uncle Joe has been replaced buy instant information on the Internet. Instead of ruminating on a topic now for a week or two, we get instant feedback to tickle our fancy, adjust our attitudes or make us go chimpanzee insane as we react to the huge overflow of information.
We are in an age of information junkies and we haven’t figured out how to handle it yet.
Not picking on cosmos, but he claims to be an expert on Global Warming? How can we really know? We don’t know who he is and we can’t see his qualifications or sheepskins.
The same with other topics. Written by unseen faces, in hundreds of Internet blithering Websites that overload us with information.
Are we really that bad today or have we forgotten how to think in retrospection and with introspection?
Ask yourself this dog, how long did it take for you to make a decision to write what you wrote at 0307 a.m?
Back in the 1980s, you may have well just smacked the Newspaper or given the fist to the TV as a reaction.
Now?
Well, I think we know the results.
For the most part and especially on this blog, we are arguing with information and its various forms of overload.
We aren’t really discussing anything and perhaps we really shouldn’t be discussing things that in the past relied on time, retrospection and introspection to figure out just exactly is happening.
Of course, it only gets worse as information becomes faster.
It is after all the warning of the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.
The apple was from the tree of knowledge.
We have found that tree of knowledge and have taken the bite out of the apple.
There is no turning back to the good old days. The Serpent has had his way with us and will never let go.
okay, that last part was a little preachy and over the top. :D
Funny….When you talk about “foreign policy” we all know who we’re really talking about, now don’t we, and “they” do too.
So, Huckabee’s answer really wasn’t an answer.
Huckabee just made it sound like an ansewer.
Tricky…
So when Huckabee gets elected, it’s just “same old, same old.”
Kinda like the dems said they would stop the “war.” when they got control of congress.
I guess hints don’t count…right Huckabee.
Ed
John Paul don’t do “Tricky.”
“We have found that tree of knowledge and have taken the bite out of the apple.
There is no turning back to the good old days. The Serpent has had his way with us and will never let go.”
Posted by kansas.
Preachy? How about a slap in the face to anyone who is intelligent enough to wade through the chaff to get to the wheat? There are those of us who are quite able to handle any and all information.
“We aren’t really discussing anything and perhaps we really shouldn’t be discussing things that in the past relied on time, retrospection and introspection to figure out just exactly is happening.”
Why is that? Because you have trouble digesting the information? Or because you can’t understand anything you don’t agree with, so it’s no longer a “discussion” but preaching?
Generalizing about the posters here shows a certain amount of chutzpah, but very little in terms of understanding. We’re not quite as dumb as you seem to think we are, kansas. In fact, I think we do talk over your head many times.
Where in the world is the “un-Republican” part in Romney’s statement? Did I miss it?What Huckabee said was stupid, not un-Republican.
I agree with the Fleetie, saying something “smart” would be “un-republican”.
Don’t take this wrong writerdog.
It is past time you abandon the party that has abandoned you. Trust me, it feels good. Like a shower after a hard day.
My my the calculation involved here.
Hickabee has a little steam and KNOWS bush is poison. SO he makes the break from bush and tries to increase his momentum.
Over there is Romney, the guy with the weird religion. BUT Hickabee’s remarks give him the chance to appear to be consistent with the base 20 or so percent who would follow bush over a cliff. It’s his “I’m one of you!” moment.
What fun!
Anybody catch Meet the Press? Russert exposed Romney for the stuttering sputtering man of plastic that he is.
The Huckabee article linked in the lead in is excellent. Interesting and telling that only the quote critical of the administration would be highlighted. Anyway, the article covers a lot of ground, touching on Iraq, Iran, energy independence and the war on terror. Good stuff! Read it libs, it will improve your foreign policy IQ 20 points.
JR: I didn’t catch it, but every review I read of Romney’s performance on MTP was very positive.
Speaking of time Kansas, I think what got me to wonder yesterday was watching the debate in the Senate over which of two bills on FISA. One from the intelligence committee the other from the Judicial committee. The Republicans were arguing for the need to have all communication within the U.S. to be covered. Saying that if a terrorist in Pakistan was calling a terrorist in Germany and the call was routed through the U.S. The call could not be monitored without a warrant from FISA. But rather then simply putting into the law a stipulation that in such a case, the would be an exception. They were arguing for a blank tracking of all calls within the country. Finally ( I have been searching for the record from the Senate to get the senator’s exact name) A Republican senator said something I took to be a jab at the Democrats.But in his words he may have expressed the thinking of the current group. “They love the Constitution and the liberties more then the country!”.
I was floored, fist to the TV? Yeah I caught myself saying to him through the screen, “you take the Constitution and the liberties that it guarantees out of the equation. What the hell is left worth fighting for?
Playing your Xbox? Watching “Survivor”? You can play an Xbox in Communist China and watch Survivor in Cuba. It does not seem that long ago if someone else had made such a statement. Even members of his own party would have been jumping to their feet and tripping over each other to take him to task. Yet not a word was said of it, the Democrats are at the very least giving lip service to the higher ideals. And yes at least some of them are doing nothing more the playing at partisan politics. Both seem to have forgot that it is the country and not the party that in the end matters. It is the American people and their rights and the very Constitution that is being threatened. The Terrorist can only bomb and kill the people but not end this nation. In that they have no more power then Donald Duck!
I guess it boils down to one question as to which side of the question one is going to be on.
“Are you a Democrat, a Republican or an American?” Which one of the three would you rather see prevail?
Well said, Writerdog.
Anyone who doesn’t march in lockstep with the BushBots is ‘un-Republican’ these days.
Ben,
Don’t forget “un-American” and a “traitor.”
Dog, I see those who want to replace the Constitution with the Bible (I guess they’ll have to argue over whose version!).
Americans with an eye to Huckabee as the next president are moving closer and closer to a theocracy of their own. When one can’t separate religion and politics we’re in trouble. And, folks, we’re in trouble!
My yardstick question is would I want to see this candidate as a Supreme Court Justice. Do I want the philosophies of this candidate reflected in the laws of our land? You’ve gotta ask questions like, can someone who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old be trusted to the presidency? How much evidence and how many facts is he capable of ignoring?
So when those who want America to be a theocracy have changed all the laws, removed all the freedoms that once made this country great we will be no better than Afghanistan, Iraq, the Taliban… We’ll just be doing our evil IN THE NAME OF GOD. No different than IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. Wrong is wrong, evil is evil no matter whose name is invoked.
Monitoring phone calls eh dog?
I don’t think either one of us has anything to worry about who listens in on our phone calls. Heck, if you have a cell phone or a home based wireless, any smoe can listen in on your phone calls no by going down to radio shack and getting a few parts.
The ability to listen to terrorists phone calls is a must. One can’t wait and get a court order while a phone call is in process. One must act now.
I don’t know why Americans are so paranoid about that. In Kansas USA, the chances of being listened in on is one in a quadrillion quadrillion, it ain’t happening.
Now, do the monitor the switching stations and the satellites that cover the coast lines? Probably and I say so what? That doesn’t bother me either.
Heh heh
My aunt is the ONLY Republican in the family. Her and her husband.
The dumb hicks actually shook hands with bush after their town was destroyed by a tornado.
Of course, I have no contact with my aunt. She may as well be dead to me since 2000.
My mom still talks to her. Here awhile back, my aunt mentioned that she had to call out of the country for something or other. I told my mom to tell her that that probably would get her calls monitored.
She believed it! Now she is sure homeland security is monitoring her calls.
JR shame on you if the only reason you don’t see your aunt is because she is republican. There is more to life than politics. As negative as it gets on here at time I can alway push back from my desk and reenter the real world.
Family is one thing that always stays constant. You can choose to not be someones friend any longer but your relatives will always be your relatives.
Have a good day!
Words always have meanings and get results. We need to remember this when constantly critizing the military – while supporting the troops – , critizing the leaders and their methods and turning everything into a political battle.
“The ability to listen to terrorists phone calls is a must. One can’t wait and get a court order while a phone call is in process. One must act now.”
Posted by Kansas
Maybe Kansas does not understand what the word “AFTER” means?Like he doesn’t understand difference between “THE culprit” and “A culprit”?
Surveillance CAN begin immediately, i.e. they can “act NOW”.
But FISA requires them to get judicial authorization within 72 hours AFTER surveillance begins, if a U.S. citizen is involved.
Contrary to popular belief, troops do get news when they are overseas.
I heard it when I was overseas and could only think about the ungrateful butt wipes back in the states exercising their freedom of mouth while we were overseas defending it.
It has a serious effect on morale when troops are not supported and Congress talks about cut backs, criminal activity in Iraq and etc.
When only a few give the troops a good word or two, then morale spirals downward.
Instead of running their mouths, they should be sending a care package or a postcard, anything for the troops to read while in harm’s way.
That’s what is important, not spew about their opinion on something most don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
I see that the coward cosmos hiding his unqualified, unscientific self behind a computer screen is back to cross topic personal attacks and ad hominem again.
No one cares about our personal feud cosmos, get it? Go pour some polluted oil on some wetlands somewhere.
Ah Ksgrm,
J R is just funning ya. He must have other issues with his Aunt.
He knows I’m a republican and he’s really fond of me. Comes out, drinks my beer, eats my hamburgers, hell even lets me take his boy up to see my horses!
And I’m not even family!
When ever we see each other we always have kind words.
I think he just blusters a little on the BLOG to make a point. He’s really quite a nice guy!
Hank
Ok Hank I have decided he really is a teddy bear disguised as a grizzley. I’ll take your word for it. Sorry JR.
Ok Hank I have decided he really is a teddy bear disguised as a grizzley. I’ll take your word for it. Sorry JR.
Posted by: Ksgrm | December 18, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Except J R wants Ksgrm to get a second job to pay for his health care. :D
Hank, of course the guy will show up for free vittles and the pony show.
J R constantly has his hand out.
Hey Kansas JR and I talked last night and I know what he hopes to get and he knows my opinion on it. We are in tune here. Go fight with Cosmos.
Hey Kansas,
Ksrgm and I neither one have enough time for a second job. When you have your own business it pretty much takes care of ’spare time’.
It’s OK though, we pay enough taxes that some of them could go for his health care.
Naw ksgrm, I’ll fight with J R.
Anyone that puts my name, address, email and threatens to post my home address on a Public Blog and makes false allegation that I’m trying to shoot him deserves that special attention.
So what is it that J R hopes to get?
Something that is free where he won’t have to work for it?
Ksgrm:I appreciate your response to my post a few days ago regarding the KHPA proposals for health reform. I did not have time that day to respond to your question and it is off topic for now, but when the subject comes back up on another post I am looking forward to answering your question.
Kansas doesn’t know the provisions of FISA, and he misquoted Dr. Stephens.
So of course his response is false ad hominems at me.
Thanks Poster.
Kansas wrong thread but JR is on the right track about cheaper premiums for independent contrators. This will be part of any comprehensive nationalized healthcare plan.
You’ve gotta ask questions like, can someone who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old be trusted to the presidency? How much evidence and how many facts is he capable of ignoring?-lindaink
I am curious, who is saying the earth is 6,000 year old? And on what basis and evidence do you know with certainty that it is not? Were you there? Why is this topic so important to you?
You’ve gotta ask questions like, can someone who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old be trusted to the presidency? How much evidence and how many facts is he capable of ignoring?-lindaink
I am curious, who is saying the earth is 6,000 year old? And on what basis and evidence do you know with certainty that it is not? Were you there? Why is this topic so important to you?
Posted by: rfl | December 18, 2007 at 11:17 AM
Another uninformed poster.
Show me a direct quote where Huckabee said the earth is 6000 years old.
You can’t, because he never said it.
Huckabee already said he wanted creationism taught in public schools and creationists believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. Why want something taught that you don’t believe in? He already rejected the fact of evolution so his science credentials are shot.
What if Huckabee’s foreign policy is like his domestic policy?
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/#70953
If Bin Laden and other Islamic terrorists accept Jesus and become Christians then Huckabee will grant them full pardons and invite them to dinner at the White House.
We tend to pronouse it Tok-E- Yo { you can see that there is no “E” }.
Tok-yo
Well Doug we can’t have it both ways. Several prominent dems Obama amoung them have said we need to do more talking and less acting. I’m sure feeding them would be cheaper than fight them.
We tend to spell it “pronounce.”
Debris is an interesting word as well. It is “pronounced” (de bree)
(short ‘e’ on the first syllable)
Sweeps the debris away.
Ed that reminds me of my hometown Miami, Ok. If you are a native it is Miama if you’re not it is pronounced Miami like the one in Florida. Same with Missoura and Missouri. After living in Kansas for 20+ years I still get razzed about the Ark – Kansas river.
He already rejected the fact of evolution so his science credentials are shot.-Doug
Doug,
Science credentials are not determined by how lemminglike you are in obeying the consensus of scientists who are basing their conclusions on conjecture and theoretical hypothesis.
So Doug, if all the scientists in the world worked it out in their collective heads that the planet would be better off if Doug jumped off a bridge, would you do it?
Ksgrm, Yeah, and Real [e] tor, Realtor, Real[e]tor.
But there’s still a “Paris Texas”…
rlf, Some days I definitely feel 6,000 years old and at this time of year those days seem to occur more often. But I’m getting an amazing amount done so deserve to feel tired. And, no, I wasn’t there and am not 6,000 years old, just close.
It isn’t the most important question, just ONE among many that I ask to determine who is or isn’t someone I could support. Science has taken too big a hit under bushco and I don’t want to follow that with anyone who holds Huckabee’s beliefs. Science is important to me! I want to see the cures and treatments that all kinds of stem cell research will bring; I want our country to be a leader in solutions for global climate change; science should be taught in science classes…
You, of course, are free to ask as many questions as you choose and weigh your determinations on exactly what is important to you. It is still a free country and you and I each get one vote. That is unless you’ve figured out a way to get more than one; I haven’t.
My yardstick question continues to be:
Would I want this candidate as a Supreme Court Justice?
Because those Justices last longer than any president! A president leaves judges at several levels who usually agree with his philosophies (although not always!).
So, kansas, does that mean you were only fighting for the freedom of those who agreed with you?
So, kansas, does that mean you were only fighting for the freedom of those who agreed with you?
Posted by: Curious | December 18, 2007 at 04:06 PM
Of course not.
But doesn’t mean I like the attitude of some who are absolutely with a clue and get their knowledge from sources that don’t know their anal opening from a circular escavated terra firma.
They gave the script to their famous broadcaster “Tokyo Rose” and every day she would broadcast this same message packaged in different ways.========================
Come to think of it, Tokyo Rose told the troops she was on their side, too
Posted by: Hotdog | December 18, 2007 at 10:01 AM
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Come to think of it, Rush and Hannity pretty much broadcast the same BS every day too!! I wonder if they are trying to undermine free thinking Americans??
Posted by: lindainks55 | December 18, 2007 at 04:01 PM
Hey Linda… I really LIKE that post!! WTG!!
Lindainks,
Even a well intentioned non-biased and educated judges can come to completely opposite opinions on an issue.
So it is with the scientist.
I agree that the president’s pick for the supreme court are very important and thus your yardstick is the same as mine.
I also want a candidate that emphasizes science. However, when pledging allegiance to the scientist, you have to understand that even scientists disagree on how to interpret scientific data.
Regarding the issues that you mentioned, there are scientific defenses of both sides. The underlying assumptions are rarely mentioned but they should be.
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I know some scientists really well. I am not intelligent or well educated enough to understand all they discuss but love the atmosphere when they get started. At least they don’t stop and sit on any laurels – constantly striving to verify and peer review is vital. I have a great deal more confidence in scientists than I do in politicians.
Fleetie, Kansas, econ,
The train is leaving the station and the only ones on board are me and Ron Paul.
I think I’ll be Secretary of Defense.
Scary, Isn’t it?