I saw Morrison kissing . . .

4morrison_video_lipsEvents overtook the release of our latest satirical video. We posted a silly “I Saw Morrison Kissing. . .” video on YouTube and The Eagle’s Web site Friday morning. But shortly thereafter we learned that Attorney General Paul Morrison would likely resign Friday afternoon. We took the video off our Web site, because we thought the timing was bad. But it’s still up on YouTube, and we included the lyrics in our satirical Christmas carols in Sunday’s paper.
One WE blogger said yesterday that printing the carol and this photo was a journalistic low point. What do the rest of you think? I’m sympathetic to concerns about Morrison’s family, but I also think that Morrison is to blame for the fallout from his affair. Should no one have made fun of Bill Clinton or Larry Craig because of their families?
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

71 Comments

  1. KansasMeadowlark
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    Why isn’t the Eagle interested in journalism or investigative reporting? If you want to do comedy, why don’t you get out of the newspaper business and open a comedy club?

    There are so many stories the Kansas press and the Eagle just don’t look for, report or opine about. Why?

    Where are your in-depth investigations of Morrison’s sexual harassment of Kelly Summerlin? Wasn’t the case proceeding to trial and was never dismissed for lack of evidence? Didn’t the judge reject Morrison’s motion for summary judgment stating that there was sufficient evidence to go to trial?

    Or what about Morrison’s interference with Summerlin’s adoption? Why can’t the press find the story and report about Morrison calling the biological grandparents of the prospective adoptive child and encouraging them not to allow the adoption to proceed because Morrison claimed Summerlin was unfit? What about the Dec 13, 2007 Olathe News article where Kelly Summerlins said her story hasn’t changed in 17 years and stands by her accusations against Morrison?

    And what did Mark Parkinson know about this since he was Morrison’s attorney in the Summerlin case?

    Why can’t the Eagle research and force the IRS to give some details about the non-profits that spent almost $450,000 in Kansas elections last year? It might be hard work, but don’t Kansas voters deserve to know how non-profit laws are being abused? Where’s the Eagle’s commentary about the IRS sitting on their hands instead of investigating abuse by non-profits?

    Where are the journalists in Wichita?

  2. Econ101
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    PhillI do believe that the Eagle owes the voters of Kansas an apology.

    Your rabid attacks of Kline were over the top.

    Your refusal to investigate Morrison was a journalistic low point.

    We know that it isn’t “personal” with you. Morrison was a means to an end. Morrison was a means for the Eagle to achieve its political goals. Now, with Kline out of the way, and Morrison in trouble, and resigning, you throw Morrison under the bus?

    Yes, it is all very sad.

    However, it does give us the chance to remind all Liberals: the Eagle is not your “friend” in the true sense of the word. The Eagle is no “honest broker” of the news. The Eagle does lean heavily to the left. However, when one of their own is in trouble, they will purge that person, rather quickly, and disavow all responsibility for that persons rise to power!

    I think your video was a cheap way to distance the Eagle from Morrison.

    It is not working.

    He was YOUR guy, and we conservatives will remind voters, for ever more, about Morrison.

  3. Econ101
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 1:54 am | Permalink

    By the way, what difference did it make, that he resigned, as far as the video was concerned?Was the purpose of said video to GET Morrison to resign? Did the Eagle realize that Morrison was now a liabilty, and move to remove Morrison?That would make some logical sense.That way, since the purpose was achieved, without the Eagle pushing the video —

    But now, you bring it up?

    Hey, the family was hurting because of Morrison’s behavior.

    At this point, the family doesnt really care so much about our AG’s future career plans, IMHO. Except for the guy that shares my first name, I think the REST of the family is a bit distracted by other matters.

    Fact is, even Paul might be distracted by LEGAL issues, rather than the resignation issue.

    So, “concern for the family” doesnt wash.

    The Eagle is a political player, and the Eagle played this one badly.

    Cutting the video, pulling the video, then promoting the video?

  4. Herbert West III
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Extortion involving sex is Rape!! Sexual Blackmail is Rape!! Everyone sits back and says he is allowed to do what he wants because he did a good job removing criminals. 2 points there, 1. Linda Carter is a humanbeing not a paycheck. 2. He should not be allowed just because it is him instead of them. Alot of the Government doesnt say crimes are wrong, they only want to decide who is allowed to do the deed. They can Extort, deal drugs, rape, cheat taxes, steal tax money etc:.. The only difference is that it is them instead of us. I dont want permission to be a crook. I just am expressing they should not have that right either. I want to commend the Witchita Eagle in its allowing us to post our opinions on this and all subjects. Name any other paper or site on the web where we can express our views and they are not censored or blocked.I have e-mailed every paper in Kansas and the Media Stations in the KC area. The Witchita Eagle, out of all of them, is the only one that allows us to post and opinionate openly. A true freedom of the press paper. Thanks again, Herbert West III, Publisher/Journalist.west.herb@yahoo.com For the record the only other avenue that does the same is http://www.wen2k.com .

  5. Roo-Ster
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 3:00 am | Permalink

    “He was YOUR guy, and we conservatives will remind voters, for ever more, about Morrison.”

    Just like you guys keep reminding us about Willie Horton, huh?

    And I thought he became Democrat only because the extreme-right-leaning GOP left him in the middle…

  6. Kansas
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 3:01 am | Permalink

    As much as I disliked or liked the video is unimportant to me.

    Using satire regardless of the media used is recognized as an observation from a particular viewpoint.

    Crowson’s Cartoon, The Daily Show, Saturday Night Live, Mad Magazine all do satire and all I’m sure take heat, get wrinkled brows or even raise some ire.

    The video I think was below the standard of what we are used to seeing in production (it could have been better.)

    Timing? Well, I suppose that is directly proportional to the amount of heat or agreement with said satire.

    The only danger I can see for journalists doing videos on developing stories is that satirize is one of partisanship or bias might be a better word.

    Although, the intent was to make satire, the result may be a doubled-edge sword.

    I imagine Crowson has had his fair share of being cut with his own pen. I would ask him about how he reacts when that happen.

    Using video and sound is more risky than the pencil and brush satire in that it doesn’t leave as much doubt or should I say “choice” in the viewers mind what they are seeing.

    A Crowson cartoon utilizing the same material and demonstrated in the same matter will leave the viewer pondering a bit and they will usually make up there own mind about it.

    Again, back to Crowson, WWCD
    (WHAT WOULD CROWSON DO?)

    (sorry, had to write that)

    :)

    I enjoy the videos the WE Editorial Staff makes. Don’t stop making them.

    Just be careful wearing sandals in the brier patch. :)

  7. Econ101
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 3:06 am | Permalink

    Roo Ster

    Actually, Democrat Al Gore was the first politician to bring up Willie Horton, when Gore ran against Dukakis, in the primary.

  8. Roo-Ster
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 5:54 am | Permalink

    But he refer to the furlough program itself WITHOUT mentioning any specific names. Atwater made it into a smear campaign based on fear and racial tension.

  9. Stu Meckle
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    Phil,Kansas does not have to be like our national press. Step back and ask yourself where you can improve journalistic integrity rather than eroding it.Of course, I am a democrat, so I am biased. If you were trashing Phil Kline I would be on your bandwagon.

  10. Steven Davis
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 6:42 am | Permalink

    All of Paulie’s rants avoid the obvious problem with Kline: he was grossly incompetent as an attorney – hell more than once he coudln’t even be bothered with re-newing his law license. He considered consumer protection a shake down of poor-abused corporations. The man was a joke. Morrison kicked his butt, as could anyone resembling an attorney. Sorry, jokers….

  11. Fun, Fulsome Female
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    I am the blogger you cited, and I still believe your satire was tasteless. Yes, I believe Morrison is to blame for his actions. I also believe Ms. Carter was a consenting adult, and I’m not privy to the incentives propelling her behavior, either.

    However, it’s one thing to include brilliant, trenchant drawings by Richard Crowson. I’ve enjoyed them many times in the past, and I’ll enjoy them even more in the future, I’m quite sure. But placing that picture in a respectable newspaper wasn’t appropriate.

    There are victims here. I’m sure Mrs. Morrison and her children aren’t all that appreciative. One other thing – enduring something like this during the holidays is even more grotesque. It’s like a Salvador Dali painting gone horribly awry – everything is acutely out of whack and out of sync.

    Yes, I was angry at Bill Clinton. But I wouldn’t have printed a picture of Monica’s smoochings covering his word-parsing mug. Not in a major newspaper.

    Christ! Let’s hope Ms. Carter doesn’t allow herself to be interviewed by Barbara Walters. Seeing (and hearing) Monica Lewinsky actually muted my anger and turned it into abject pity for the beleagured president. I wanted to pat his noggin, change his diaper, replenish his cerebellum, and send him on his way.

    But I wouldn’t poke fun at this sordid saga.

    The Eagle shouldn’t either.

  12. Steven Davis
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Kline’s only political interest was a very narrow concern with abortion. When you don’t do your job as required, you get kicked to the curb. This is what happened to Kline and extreme partisans like Paulie and Meadowlark whine about it. Too bad, so sad….

  13. WAR
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    Yeah, Wichita Eagle … as other bloggers have stated, stick to the news. When you get good at that, go ahead and try and be funny. I’m not one of the partisan bloggers and I’m not terribly vested in the Morrison/Kline controversies. But I do know humor, as I am a really funny guy. Someday when you guys produce something humorous, I’ll drop you a line and let you know.

  14. J R
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    Phillip,

    I found the video in poor taste.

    Morrison was the victim of a political vendetta on the part of the embittered supporters of the ousted kook Phil Kline.

    You would do well to pay no mind to the words of the few such folk who have posted here.

  15. political_mama
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    I think it’s fine. Nobody seemed to be bent out of shape when Clinton was being knocked around left and right with the Lewinski scandal. There was no rape here. Yes, he deserved it. Who says an editorial can’t be funny? It’s not like the Eagle substituted this in lieu of news.

  16. political_mama
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    Paul, give it a rest. I’ll bet most Kansans would vote for Morrison again in a heart beat over Kline. I don’t think an affair is smart to do, but until it has been proven he did the other ILLEGAL things, then I’d rather have an AG who did a bad personal thing than an AG who doesn’t do his job.

  17. BizSnype
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    I don’t think the video was inappropriate but the timing was terrible. The Eagle shouldn’t create parody videos of news events that are still within the current news cycle. This video should have waited until February or March to be released.

    It calls into question the seriousness and bias/non-bias nature of every Morrison article from this point forward.

  18. Right Angle
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    The Ten Commandments: The real reason that wecan’t have the Ten Commandments posted in a courthouseis this: You cannot post “Thou Shall Not Steal,”"Thou Shall Not Commit Adultery”, and “Thou Shall NotLie” in a building full of lawyers, judges andpoliticians. It creates a hostile work environment.

  19. littlejohn
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Hey Right Angle-

    i don;t care who you are–that’s just danged funny!

  20. Unmasked Avenger
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    I though The Eagle was a joke.

  21. Old Manor Road
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    I haven’t seen the video! However, I do know this much. Paul Morrison was his own worse enemy. He let his libedo running his position. Kline now finds the opportunity to extract vengence for the sound defeat he took at the hands(?) of Morrison! However, If I were Kline I’d step back and take a long look at my backside. Because he’s sitting on a hot seat as well. Johnson county voters are becoming quite upset in his personal crusade against abortion clinics while fore going other crimes in the county. His position doesn’t look good either! There has been talk of support to bring back Kline as attorney general. Forget it! Kansans won’t be suckered a second time with this egotistical loon! One time is enough!!!

  22. Poster Boy
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    In our culture it sometimes seems as though we have become culture of vultures waiting for some poor soul to fall from the heights, do something dumb, say something offensive/stupid. Then we do our collective feeding on the carcass with no regard for the collateral damage to the innocent.

    Feast away folks on Mr. Morrison and don’t worry about his kids or relatives or Ms. Carters kids or relatives. Those people should have known better than to love or be family to the collective meal.

  23. rgl
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Larry “Bojangles” Craig and Bill “BJ” Clinton would make a great parody

  24. jeetzwillager
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Are you Morrison apologists THAT dazed & confused?

    Keep using Phill Kline in this story as a way to downplay Morrison’s misdeeds. As it all unravels, it will only aid Kline.

    As for Morrison’s family, it is the Morrison apologists who are bringing them into the story. If you don’t want them in the news, stop talking about them.

    The people I read posting about Morrison’s misdeeds are not posting about his family.

    P.S. to Kansasmeadowlark: Great questions, probing post — as usual.

  25. Hotdog
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    I think it is one thing for private citizens to “make fun” of our political leaders.

    I think it is something else entirely for a media source to spend their time and money to do the same.

    Something about “we report the news”…….

    But obviously small town Kansas newspapers don’t practise journalism anymore.

  26. Kitrell
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    It’s like this, the Eagle told someone to pull their finger, and then they farted.

    Now they are laughing at their own joke – and saying to everyone who will listen, “Wasn’t I funny?”

    I believe the Writers Guild is still on strike. Maybe the comedy shows in Hollywood could use some joke writers. Might as well, you are not researching, investigating, and reporting news anymore.

  27. Tom Paine
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Its not like the Eagle twisted Morrisons arm and made him have an affair so they could lampoon him. Morrison problem is his own doing.

  28. time for change
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    You Dems are so thin skinned. If it was a Republican you would be jumping with joy over all of this.

    You didn’t seem to think the ads ran by Morrison and on behalf of Morrison that were character assults on Kline were a bad thing.

    The ads for several candidates were just flat mean and dishonest this past campaign season. Where was the concern then? Did anyone stop to think about the children of those families that watched their dad or mom attacked and lied about?

    Paul Morrison brought this upon himself. If the criminal charges are true he will be an ex AG serving prison time. You don’t tamper with a case and expect to get by with it.

  29. Poster Boy
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    I am no Morrison apologists! He should be ashamed of his behavior and he owes all of Kansas a huge apology!

    My point goes beyond Morrison and to our collective need to “kick-em when their down”.

    In this case Morrison is our of office, he is under investigation for alleged misconduct, what is being served by continued riducule and satire?

  30. Poster Boy
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    should be out of office– sorry/

  31. The Phantom
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    As far as the dems are concerned It Was A Republican, at least when the Capital Offense was perpetrated.

  32. The Phantom
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    We need a parody about Kline and Operation ‘Tail Gate’.

  33. Ben
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Morrison brought it upon himself. I see nothing wrong with eagle staff having a few ‘adult beverages’ and having some fun at his expense.

  34. The Phantom
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Yes, dems. aren’t hurt a bit by something Morrison did before he saw the light, and switched to the Good Guys side.

  35. parkay
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Morrison was shuffling around the Johnson County Courthouse with his pants around his ankles to abuse a subordinate government employee, and no news media caught wind of a scandal, til his adulteress filed a complaint and ran for the state line???Now us suckers – er, subscribers – get a satirical video, while the real criminal investigations are getting swept under the carpet???Meanwhile, Bilious Sebelius gets a new AG ready who’s even more tainted by abortion mill corruption???Folks, we have a severe national crisis seething, in the breakdown of criminal justice, as thousands of desperate out-of-state mothers enter Kansas every year to be victimized and scarred by illegal post-viable abortions not tolerated elsewhere.Let’s get a real newspaper with real journalists who care SOMETHING about protecting the public interest.

  36. J R
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    Hi parkay

    Morrison was a Republican.

    Now we will have a Democratic AG.

    And Phil Kline is STILL smarting from his pants kicking out of office. He WON’T be coming back.

    Now that I have stuck that finger in your eye?

    Let me stick this one in your other eye.

    A woman is going to continue to have the right to control her own body. This will not change. Your efforts to change it are meaningless.

  37. Ben
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Remmeber parkay – it was a vote of the PEOPLE of the state of Kansas that sent Kline packing.

  38. Tom Paine
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    How did Morrison abuse anyone as far as I can tell everything was consensual.

  39. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    I thought the WE parody was funny as hell. Good going guys!

    Like it or not, ALL elected officials are fair game. The stupid ones are easy prey. They get what they deserve.

    If Morrison was so freakin’ concerned about his family, he shoulda kept his pants zipped.

    And…

    He should NOT have trotted them out in ads and on the campaign trail.

    You cant have it both ways. Something others, like tiahrt, should think about before using their families as campaign props.

    And WTF? Dont they have anyone who vets candidates at the KDP?

    Or were they so desperate to recruit republicans they took Morrison’s word for his holiness?

    BIG effin’ eye roll…

  40. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    I guess parody and satire are so inappropriate that they make the Daily Show and Colbert Report two of the top rated shows on TV?

    Grow up if you think elected officials are not fair game. I think the legal term is “public figure”.

  41. Posted December 18, 2007 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Good afternoon, Ksfarmgrrl, and a most brilliant piece concerning public figures than I have ever read!

    The truth shall rise up and bite thy front-page publicness in the arse, or wherever thy head is lolling at the time!

  42. Posted December 18, 2007 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    I too believe that public officials are fair game. However, when the people suffer because of over zealous(for lack of a better word), media reports; it does raise the question of fair game?

  43. political_mama
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Thank god finally some voices of reason. Heaven forbid, the newpaper run the funnies, or post ‘gasp’ opinion. IT HURTS THEIR JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY!

    Hogwash. It makes them real people. Who says you have to always be a stick in the mud to have integrity?

    as i said earlier, if this had been the ONLY piece they ran, that would be a different story.

  44. Econ101
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Morrison was fair game BEFORE the election, as well.

    However, many on this Blog, sticking up for the Eagle, now, were telling conservatives how out of line we were, back then!

    WE TOLD YOU SO!

    This is a pattern. Not just the affair, but the strong-arm intimidation techniques, thereafter—–By the way, abortion laws WILL get tougher.
    If we simply enforced what is already on the books, it would cost Tiller a mint.

    The abortion law in New York is tougher than the law in Kansas, for Heaven sake!

    And, abortion law in Europe is far stricter than anywhere in the United States.

  45. J R
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    A woman is going to continue to have the right to control her own body. This will not change. Your efforts to change it are meaningless.

    And I should add that the considerable effort wasted would better be applied to truly pro life activities.

    Like not vetoing SCHIP

  46. Econ101
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Abortion will be severly restricted.

    Count on it.

    Baby Boomers are a selfish lot.They want someone to pay their Social Security and Medicare taxes.

    Part of the political and economic reason we have an illegal immigrant problem is PRECISELY because we have a “birth dearth” to deal with. After the Boomers, births dropped dramatically.

    When the baby boomers no longer worry about paying child support, and worry more about their social security and medicare, things will change. (Thats right, it is single young and middle aged men that support abortion on demand the most)

    Well, then the restrictions will start. We have some restrictions now, but the left won’t let us enforce them. The public would support far more restrictive laws than we have now, it is the Supreme Court that gets in the way. This too shall pass.

    I never said abortion would be completely illegal.

    Narcotic drugs arent completely illegal, they are just highly regulated.

  47. Poster Boy
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    You cant have it both ways. Something others, like tiahrt, should think about before using their families as campaign props.ksfarmgrrl | December 18, 2007 at 05:20 PM

    So when do we start doing suicide jokes about Tiahrt’s son? Where does it stop? Just because someone is elected to office then we get to do awful jokes about anything tragic about them or their family.

    It maybe what we do but it ain’t right!

    Econ1zero1:Why do you take so much pleasure as a result of someone else getting so much grief? Is it because they have a different political tag than you or just because you are cruel?

  48. Poster Boy
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Econ1zero1:

    How the hell go we get to an abortion debate about whether or not the WE has any taste about its sense of humor?

    You guys (jr and econ and et al) will take any advantage to engage in arguments that have nothing to do with the thread.

  49. J R
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    apologies poster boy.

    Pauliecon and I, we go way back.

    He’s easily blown up. I’m ever eager to light the fuse.

    It IS topical to the thread because he and his are real cranky that ol’ Phil Kline got kicked to the curb.

    No paulie, women are NOT going to go back to being forced to carry a pregnancy they do not want and cannot support to term.

    Who can blame them?

    MOST of those who scream loudest to force them to do so go quickly away once the baby is born.

    “Birth dearth”? The attendant “need” for illegals?

    Hogwash. This country no longer values labor. Everybody wants everything for cheap. THAT is what will have to change.

    The stockholders and the CEOs, they are gonna have to take a little hit on their earnings so that those who make and do and serve can be more fairly treated and compensated. And the turnabout is long overdue. THAT is what folks like econ are really afraid of.

    No we won’t be forcing babies to be born to be their work force. And attitudes are drifting steadily against illegals to fill the role.

    The easy and unappreciated ride for the monied, it’s coming to an end.

  50. Poster Boy
    Posted December 18, 2007 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    And away he goes!!!

  51. political_mama
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    Sorry Paul, but you’re wrong. Some of the most ardent supporters of choice are people who lived before Roe and saw the aftermath of illegal abortions.

  52. Roo-Ster
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    “And, abortion law in Europe is far stricter than anywhere in the United States.”

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/12/i-saw-morrison.html#comment-94124084

    PauliEcon: Why don’t you start picking on your giant Northern Neighbour, i.e., Canada? And since you praise Europe so much, why don’t you move to Malta where the abortion law is more to your liking?

    Besides, what do you mean by “restrictive” anyway? I never heard of abortions performed free-of-charge in the USA? Have you?

  53. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    “So when do we start doing suicide jokes about Tiahrt’s son? Where does it stop? Just because someone is elected to office then we get to do awful jokes about anything tragic about them or their family.”s

    If you cant see the difference between a voluntary illicit affair and the suicide of someone’s son, I’m not sure it’s worth replying. But…

    I never suggested we make JOKES about tiahrt’s son. But I do think, given that he trottet out the whole fam damily in campaign ads, we have the right to TALK about it.

    Some here think it should be a verbotten subject. I would agree if he hadnt used his son and the rest of the family to keep his sorry ass in office.

    Morrison? It’s hardly a tragedy. More like comic tragedy. No comparision unless you want to discuss POLITICAL suicide.

    heheheheheheh….

  54. Econ101
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    ????—–”Hogwash. This country no longer values labor. Everybody wants everything for cheap. THAT is what will have to change.—–Not exactly.Some dead beats on this Blog don’t want to pay for their own health insurance.That isnt “cheap” that you want.It is FREE, that you want.That won’t happen either.

  55. Econ101
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    poster boyI try to avoid personal attacks.

    There are some trolls here that are hard to ignore, but I do my best.

    I try not to harp on the abortion issue too much, but the Kline/Morrison race was all about abortion.Abortionist George Tiller pretty much funds the pro-abortion Democrats in this state.Anyway, point taken.I will try to play nice.—-Malta?You should look at Europe, honestly. No country in Europe allows what Tiller does.New York does not allow what Tiller does.Why do you think people fly here to see the man?You can have truly “medically necessary” late term abortions in other states.Tiller lies and cheats on his forms.Even Morrison said as much.

  56. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    We will see what we get first pauliecon.

    Will it be health care for all of our citizens?

    You know, since every other western nation has it?

    Since that would be a TRULY pro life step?

    Or…will we get the legislation of hypocrites like you who care about a baby, UNTIL it is born? Legislation that will force a woman to carry a baby to term and then tell mother and child “Hey good luck.”

    I’m optimistic.

    America is better than you.

  57. econ101
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    ?My views are held by a comfortable majority, on most issues.

    And, the rest of the country isnt “too good” to work for their benefits.

    Rather than the “country” being better than me, I would, rather, point out that some think they are too good, to work.

  58. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    “My views are held by a comfortable majority, on most issues.”

    Uh no.

    You want abortion banned and have landed yourself in court trying. That is not a majority position.

    You deny global warming and fight attempts to reduce our addiction to foreign oil by innovating our technology. Here too you are in a diminishing number.

    You oppose health care reform or making health care available to all. AGAIN this puts you at odds with polls of your fellow Americans.

    I could go on. Your stance or lack thereof on the border. Your staying the course with bush re:Iraq etc.

    So?

    When you make all these claims about you being part of “we”?

    Ya must have a mouse in your pocket.

  59. econ101
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    10 years from now, the country will be closer to what I want.

    It will be further from what you want.

    Because the country, pretty much, thinks like me.

    Now, I suggest we avoid the trolling and the personal stuff, as I have requested, in the past.

    Look me up in 10 years and I will owe you a dinner, anywhere in town, if you have achieved your goals.

    Lets give everyone a rest, until that date?

    This petty fight is not much fun anymore.

    I like facts, figures, numbers, quotes, things that can be debated.

    Never happens, with you.

    You just can’t argue very well, without personal attacks.

    School yard bullies are boring.

  60. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    I think you are a known quantity here pauliecon.

    You are a many times busted liar.

    This is not limited to subject matter as you have on more than one occasion and even just a bit ago posted lies about me.

    Still, we have new readers everyday. They need to be introduced to you by someone other than yourself.

    You may feel free to do the same for them as regards me. I’VE nothing to hide.

    And so no, I will not cease fire in your direction. And I have no need for you to do so either.

    You and that mouse in your pocket, you bring it on.

  61. econ101
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    I do not believe that any of my comments have been deleted, by the Blog.Yours have been, several times.

    Grow up, would you?

    This personal animous is stupid.

    There are millions of people, in this country, that agree with me on every issue.

    You are the one that wants to destroy the state of Israel. What is your political support, on that one?

    You are the one that wants to put land mines on the Mexican border, where is your political support, there?

    You are the one that wants to repeal NAFTA and start a trade war, with Tarrifs. Your Dem Nominee will not agree with you on any of your nuttier ideas.

    Again, stick to issues.

    If you spent the time you waste, insulting people, at something productive, instead, you could buy enough insurance for everyone on the Blog.

  62. econ101
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    And, I have NEVER lied on this Blog.Not once.

  63. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    And now MY comments are being censored here.

    Yes pauliecon you have lied. And I can prove it.

  64. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    My answers to pauliecons 10:43 lies were not allowed to post.

    If the blog keeps this up it will end up with no posters.

  65. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    Pauliecon is invited to dig up a post where I favored destroying Israel.

    Maybe if I keep it short the blog bot will not censor me.

  66. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    I favor addressing illegal immigration.

    Pauliecon does not.

    Probably, he exploits illegals to fatten his bottom line.

  67. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Maybe the bot is getting pauliecon too.

    Or maybe he just can’t prove what he posts.

  68. J R
    Posted December 19, 2007 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    Yup I have used what you have posted here to insult you here pauliecon.

    You ARE an insult. I’m weak and you make it easy.

  69. Roo-Ster
    Posted December 20, 2007 at 4:34 am | Permalink

    PAULIECON!

    Why should they fly to KS to see Tiller when Canada does NOT even have any laws banning any kinds of abortion? Malta is the ONLY EU country that ban abortion for any reason.

    Personally, I think you are just a loud extremist, judging by your position on issues.

  70. timeforchange
    Posted December 21, 2007 at 6:33 am | Permalink

    KSFG – you are just mean. Most children are proud of their parent running for office. They volunteer and show up in campaign ads. That does not give you the right to attack them.

    Unfortunatly the candidate is fair game and too often there are some pretty ugly and untruthful stuff printed about them for the children to see. But they knew that going into it.

    The children did not sign up as the candidate. I suppose you feel you have the right to also attack volunteers on a campaign because their picture shows up in some campaign ad?

    Show some respect and leave the families alone.

  71. Billy Bob
    Posted December 21, 2007 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Remember everyone, No deed goes unrewarded. Good deeds get good rewards, bad deeds get bad rewards. It’s that simple.