Comments on: Guns needed to stop shooters

By: The Phantom

The Phantom — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:13:04 +0000

In other news, six kids shot getting off a bus in las vegas by two other youths. If the kids on the bush had cc, this might not have happened, right?

By: Ben

Ben — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:43:41 +0000

I seem to recall that she wounded him and then he finished himself off. So, that would mean that she ‘brought him down’.

By: Heckler

Heckler — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:36:25 +0000

Mary

Wrong again. She shot him multiple times. He went down. He shot himself. GET IT STRAIGHT!!

By: savagehornet

savagehornet — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:11:51 +0000

It is truley sad when things like these public shootings happen. The police can only be responders while the public itself usually has no recoarse but to try to save their own lives by hiding and praying that the poor underdeveloped soul with the gun won’t shoot them. We have become a nation, nay, a world of cattle who rely on our “government agencies” to protect us from all evils that wish us harm. The only one who can protect you at the moment is yourself by any means allowed by the powers that be. If the day came for me to decide if I must hide or run to save myself or stand and try to stop one of these poor souls who has nothing better to do with their life than killing as many others as they can before turning thier weapon upon themself, I hope I have the mindframe to try to stop him(or her) by whatever means available to me at the moment.

By: Mary Caruso

Mary Caruso — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:00:48 +0000

The truth is she didn’t “bring him down”..he shot and killed himself.

I wonder how long it will be before the Eagle and the gun nuts aknowledge the facts.

Pretending that CC laws will deter people with easy access to high powered weapons who are intent on killing others along with themsleves is trying to provide a false sense of security and give more clout to those who are against any form of gun control.

By: Angel

Angel — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:44:42 +0000

Hey Jed. Guess the students of Columbine will never feel it either, eh?

By: Heckler

Heckler — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:22:37 +0000

Jed

Some folks live in fear, some live with their head in the sand. I choose to live with my head up and my eyes open.

By: Jed

Jed — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:11:24 +0000

I’ve lived 63yrs and never felt the need to pack heat. It must be awful to spend your lives in that much fear!

By: Heckler

Heckler — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:07:04 +0000

Zelda Harold

The state wide requirement is that the weapon must be in a fully enclosed container and unloaded. It does not state where the weapon must be kept. It also does not state where the ammo must be kept.

That is State wide, preempts all local regs.

By: Heckler

Heckler — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:01:58 +0000

How old are you? Remember the riots in LA after the Rodney King beating trial? Several store owners in the midst of the chaos prevented their businesses from being looted and burned. The tool they used? What you call “assault rifles”.

Also see my 6:46 pm post.(read all of it)

“Ban them and there will still be crazy people shooting up schools and malls and churches. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BLAME IT ON THEN? What will you try to ban NEXT?”

By: TC

TC — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:10:24 +0000

The Second Amendment does guarantee the right to bear arms, but it does not specify WHICH arms. The First Amendment has certain limitations (you can’t yell “Fire!” in a crowded theater, you can’t libel or slander someone, etc.) so why can’t certain limitations be applied to the Second Amendment? Somebody give me a compelling reason why any civilian needs an assault rifle. The “hunting” argument is absurd; what are you going to do – empty 30 7.62mm rounds into a deer? The home-defense argument is equally preposterous; ask any gun-shop owner or CC trainer and you’ll get the same answer: a (”sawed-off”) 12-gauge. I can see some valid argument for handguns, but still in limited cases. If you’re going to make the case for assault weapons as part of some kind of defense-readiness against the government, then you have to employ the militia clause for that argument to hold any water, and even then, it’s pretty tenuous. Also, to me, the incident in Colorado makes a good argument against random CC; Assam had extensive and specific training. I don’t really have a problem with CC as long as the training is sufficient, but the anti-gun-control folks always seem to squawk so loudly against anything that smacks at all of any kind of registration….

By: TC

TC — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:07:09 +0000

By: Zelda

Zelda — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:54:12 +0000

GMC, my original assertion was Kansas, and my response was Wichita. Sorry about the mix-up. Wichita is pretty clear. The state of Kansas allows “open carry, except where prohibited.” So the crux of your question, is a glove compartment open or concealed carry in the larger part of Kansas? (Excluding Wichita, Topeka, etc) As I read it, “open carry” means in plain view, and “concealed carry” means not visible. At least Wichita has defined it. I would not want to pay the legal team’s fees to defend myself regarding a loaded gun in the glove compartment without a cch. For the record, I’ll keep digging!

By: Harold

Harold — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:39:02 +0000

Oops, used screen name Harold instead of Zelda. Now you know both of us! LOL

By: Harold

Harold — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:37:46 +0000

GMC, you asked, and it took me a while to get you the answers. We went over this a lot during CCH class. First, here’s the link:http://www.wichita.gov/CityCode/Default.htm?code=1487Section 1, City of Wichita Code 588.010, para (1)f specifically makes it illegal to have a loaded gun within the “immediate control” of the driver. That has been interpreted to mean wherever he/she can reach while driving, i.e. console, glove compartment, etc. Thanks to the passage of the CCH provisions, if you read further down, (sub-para (6) ) all these prohibitions are not applicable to CCH holders. Again, we sat through an 8-hour course on this stuff. No cch? in the trunk. (discussion point about pickups, etc… the answer was “way in back where a driver can’t reach it” to remove from the confines of “immediate control.”
CCH? inside the vehicle anywhere is ok. (note: for the cch holder only. Don’t leave that thing in the glove compartment when your spouse takes the car!)

By: WhiteElephant

WhiteElephant — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:18:57 +0000

I don’t see how anyone can stand to carry a hand gun on their body. Got to be a pain in the ass, carrying a gun on you, I get sick of carrying my cell phone, my keys, and my wallet.

I like shooting for target practice though, just for the sport of it, its fun.

By: Chas.

Chas. — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:52:38 +0000

AmWay — You make a HUGE bad assumption that I have never been to a shooting range… Doesnt get my testosterone flowing at all… I dont care for it… Dont like guns… never have…

Going to a shooting range doesnt change my opinion of CC laws in the least… I realize it’s legal, but that doesnt mean I have to LIKE it!! NOR does it mean you need to attack me for NOT liking it!!

Look how some of you act when those of us here remind you that abortion is LEGAL too!!

Same difference, dude!!

By: Chas.

Chas. — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:30:44 +0000

DNFTT

By: American Way

American Way — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:13:34 +0000

God bless her. This woman proves beyond a doubt, the crap that Chas puts out about shooters blindly shooting.

Someone should take Chas to a range. Let him see, hear, and experience safe weapons employment.

By: GMC70

GMC70 — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:40:03 +0000

Zelda;

I believe you’re mistaken; the law does not prohibit same unless there is a local ordinance banning such carry. But I’ve been wrong before . . .
I’ve provided a statutory cite for my position. Do you have one?

By: J R

J R — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:23:02 +0000

I don’t think she will much enjoy her “time in the sun”.

Or her time in the son.

SHE is asking for this. She goes on all the shows.

I tell you there is something not right here. That was what I said from the first.

By: Zelda

Zelda — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:22:38 +0000

GMC, you are WRONG about carrying a gun in a car in Kansas. You CANNOT carry it in the glove compartment, console, or any other place accessable to the driver UNLESS you have a CCH. You are referring to Kansas’ “open-carry” (i.e. in plain view) law that allows one to carry a gun (like in a rack) that is plainly visible, unless superseded by local authorities. Wichita does, indeed prohibit open carry, on the person, or in the car. So if you’re in Wichita, you cannot carry your pistol on the seat next to you, as you could in rural KS. The only thing you can do as a non-CCH holder, is lock it in the trunk. This is the very reason why many get their CCH. Not to “pack,” but to be able to have in their car for emergencies.

By: Chas.

Chas. — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:20:09 +0000

I already said that once, Kansas… Keep up now, old man!!

By: J R

J R — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:19:02 +0000

I found more ksgrm but it is just listed as dismissed.

By: Kansas

Kansas — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:18:50 +0000

I have a question for you Libs.

Why are you try to tear down a woman who saved other people’s life?

I and others could care less what the background of the woman is.

What kind of personal glory are you gaining for yourself by tearing down the reputation of this woman?

What’s in it for you?

She has done nothing to any of you.

Give this woman her time in the sun, she deserves thanks for saving lives.