Americans still don’t know much about George Bush’s wild and crazy days. The president said a bit more this week in an ABC News interview, explaining that he hasn’t had a drink since 1986 and, “I wasn’t a knee-walking drunk. It’s a difficult thing to do, which is to kick an addiction.â€
He said he’s a “better man†for having quit cold turkey.
“I doubt I’d be standing here if I hadn’t quit drinking whiskey, and beer and wine and all that,†he said.
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To bad Bush was seen on a wedding video completely drunk despite the fact the video was taken after he claimed to quit the booze. But when hasn’t Bush told a lie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdeCl1ZDYwo
He may have traded one addiction for another, which is not an uncommon occurence. Now the citizens of the US are suffering from his addiction to lying, and hiding the truth.
I am not sure he has kicked his addiction. He is a liar and the Republicans and his family cover for him alot.
He became President only because he was chosen as the “Idiot Savant Manchurian Candidte” to be the President so corporate America could continue to rape and pillage society and he was the perfect man for the job. He is completely void of conscience and intelligence and this country will pay dearly for decades to come of what stuoid American voter have allowed the GOP the party of corruption to perpetrate on Americans.
Gee, Bush, we may have liked you better as a ‘knee-walking’drunk.
If he had to give up drinking at least he’ll always have cocaine.
I wonder what his drug of choice is?
Bush must be on an Oil High.
One thing for sure is that he is on one huge trip, power trip, that is
He may have stopped walking on his knees, but the knuckle-dragging continues.
No need to think about a decent topic when you can just tee up the prez for the libs, eh Rhonda?
And since it would take class for a lib to keep from joining in the hate Bush fest, I expect there will be a bunch of posts here.
Outlander,
You keep assuming that only the “libs” (whatever that means) are the people who have a deep loathing of our current President.
It’s an incorrect assumption. At this point, it’s only dead-ender partisan hacks who still suck at that teat. The rest of us have moved on.
bush would certainly have done less damage as a drunk.
And speaking of drunks.
Outlander?
When the whole country is telling you you are drunk it is time to lay down.
“The rest of us have moved on.”
Chuckle… Reading the thread doesn’t support that comment, Tom.
Outlander,
JR knows what he’s talking about here. He has much experience in hearing what ppl say to drunks.
Outlander,
Put my statement back in context, if you don’t mind. We’ve moved on from having a shred of respect for this President. The only people who _haven’t_ moved on are the extreme partisans who believe Republicans can do no wrong (unless they change parties, or question the Administration, in which case they’re “traitors”).
Try to keep up, okay?
Right Tom. You’ve “moved on” to irrational hate. That’s progress? Forgive me if I don’t follow you down that road.
You have yourself some pretty poor company is my take outlander.
Not in the fiscal sense.
I mean a poverty of decency and patriotism and humanity.
Outlander,
I’ve never said I “hate” anyone. Why do you keep using that word? You’re starting to sound like Vizzini, complete with the nasal whine.
“INCONCEIVABLE!!!”
Ahhhhh! Another refreshing thread to allow the socialist democrats an opportunity to continue to express their admiration and continued great love and respect for the President of the United States.
Thanks WEBLOG! We couldn’t go a week without a Bushy thread.
American Way,
If the winner of the 2000 election had been President instead of Bush, these threads would all be about President Gore instead.
Quit whining. Good grief.
EYE’m whining? I’m whining?I’M WHINING?
O.K., you are correct Tom. I’ll stop posting to make way for what is going to be a very FULL thread of………………:::Liberals whining!
;-)
American Way,
Everytime there’s an unfavorable thread about your beloved President, the so-called “conservatives” flood the thread with whines about how “biased” the Eagle is, whaa whaa whaaa.
Grow up. Sheesh.
Lets assume that Bush is an “idiot drunk coke head” — he beat your best and brightest repeatedly.
What does that say about YOUR heroes, lefties?
Everytime there’s an unfavorable thread
Has the Eagle ever published a “favorable” thread on Bush?
The lesson is then to get drunk often, and/or take drugs.
Bill didn’t inhale though.
It may be a good thing that Obama did Cocaine, given how it may help him become President.
Does anyone know if or when Obama stopped using Cocaine?
Has the Eagle ever published a “favorable” thread on Bush?
Yeah! When he was in the hospital for checkups!
That bush could be elected, twice even, is more of a statement about the public seeing what they want to see, and believing what they want to believe in spite of reality.Guess they wanted to prove you don’t have to be intelligent to be president, only to be a good president.
What does that say about YOUR heroes, lefties?
good observation econ
The voters do not “prove” anything. That is for the elected.
Your statement of reality lies in the eyes of the beholder. As such, there is no guarantee of truth in your statement.
Let me provide an example:
Guess they wanted to prove you don’t have to be intelligent to be post, only to be a good poster.
The president giving encouragement to someone else struggling with an addiction by relating his own experiences is taken as an opportuntiy for many to dump the usual tired BDS soundbites.
Or, Rhonda, is this just a blatant attempt to generate thread traffic by tossing a softball?
You many like the president, you may not. There are lots of good reasons to disagree with the president and his policies. But many on the left abandoned any pretence of class long ago.
Those who have had some education about drug and alcohol recovery may see our POTUS in a different light than most.
It is not just about abstinence, it is about a program of recovery. It’s the lack of seeing that recovery that I find most troublesome about his sobriety.
Agreed PB. The term ‘dry drunk’ comes to mind; also there seems to be at least anecdotal evidence of relapse. Remember the fight he lost with the pretzel?
Your whining and complaining about Bush is completely worthless. Noone values what any of you have to say here. This form of expression is equivalent to a mental circle jerk. The only person you are impressing by posting here is yourself. Spend your time doing something more valuable, like charity work.
I used to be a DIE-HARD Republican until GWB’s second term. He’s done more to hurt this country than I thought Clinton did with a good fellating in the Oval Office. And I’m definitely NOT a lib (unless you mean Libertarian). But yeah, I can’t stand Bush and his incessant lying.
Well, at least noone appreciates it!
Hey dolt…I mean smarter than you,
You are the equivalent of the retard that graffiti’s the bathroom wall and misspells every word. That stuff bothers me.
“This form of expression is equivalent to a mental circle jerk.”
Since you posted on here (after you’ve talked all of your garbage), does that make you the “pivot man”?
No you weren’t Pfeefer – you were most likely a fence sitter that fell off to one side when you couldn’t handle what the MSM spews.
There’s more to life than developing your opinion from media.
“struggling with an addiction by relating his own experiences is”, sounds more like he quit cold turkey and never looked back.
Thanks, Pleefer. It is interesting how those on the right cannot seem to hold Bush accountable for anything. That is unfortunate.
$50 billion – how much the Iraq War was estimated to cost before the invasion
$2.4 trillion – how much the Iraq War is now estimated to finally cost
$10 billion – how much money is unaccounted for in Iraq
47 million – how many Americans are living without heatlh insurance
7 million – how many Americans lost heatlh insurance under George Bush
$3 trillion – how much the national debt has risen under George Bush
24% – how much of our debt is owed to foreign countries
Phantom:
Perhaps. It’s one way of kicking an addiction. It’s not the only way, perhaps not the best way, and certainly not a way that works for everyone. But it worked for him.
It’s hardly an excuse to trot out every BDS one-liner.
SD:
All of which is relevant, in another time and place. But what does it have to do with the subject of the thread?
Nothing.
I don’t have BDS (Bush Deity Sjyndrome).
I don’t know anyone with the BDS you refer to, Phanotom; hell, I didn’t know there was such a thing. I’ll give you credit for “inventing” it, if you like.
I’ve seen plenty of the alternative acronym, however.
Bush’s addiction is what the comments here restricted to, GMC? Let’s be honest a moment, Bush’s addiction has been covered up for some time. Whether he is currently practicing that addiction could only be speculation. Karl Rove was sure that the word of the DUI conviction getting out before the 2000 election is what caused the vote to be so close (he thought the evangelic base did not get out and vote to the extent they would have, had the Bush campaign been able to keep that fact under wraps).
So, my point is we don’t know much about Bush’s addiction, past or present. To comment on it could only be speculation. On the other hand, pointing out the fiscal failures of this administration is known and will have a larger negative impact on this country for some time to come.
I am glad you posted, because I had you in mind, when I was thinking of Bush apologists who cannot seem to face reality on this president. You are a smart person, I think, but your credibility suffers by your failure to hold this administration accountable. I do think that is unfortunate.
Thanks, Steven. It is interesting how those on the left cannot seem to come up with anything which requires Bush be held accountable.That is unfortunate.
Thirty-seven percent approve of Bush, 22% of Congress
By a margin of 53% to 47%, Americans say U.S. healthcare quality is excellent or good, rather than fair or poor.
Rate healthcare in positive terms: 54% in middle-income households (those reporting incomes between $30,000 and $74,999) and 69% of those in upper-income households ($75,000 or more). These differences are even greater than those observed among respondents based on political party — 42% of Democrats, 53% of independents, and 70% of Republicans give a positive evaluation of the quality of healthcare in the United States.
Despite many criticisms of the U.S. healthcare system, Americans do not have universally negative views of care in the United States. A majority of Americans give positive ratings to the quality of healthcare in this country, describing it as either “excellent” (16%) or “good” (37%). Thirty-two percent say the quality of healthcare is “only fair” and just 14% say it is “poor.”National Debt when Clinton left office 6 Trillion count them dollarc
Despite the pesky negative remarks by liberals about loss of jobs and slow salary growth, U.S. Workers Remain Largely Satisfied With Their jobs according to Gallup.
263,000,000 Americans have healthcare. Minus illegals, there might be 37 million without healthcare. There are state and federal programs to assist the low 12 percent of Americans without care. And the law requires that all of them will be treated.
The national debt when Clinton left office was 6 trillion dollars.
Clinton’s government murdered 86 women and children in Waco, Texas.
And since the democrats and republicans voted to go to war, we can thank them ALL for the cost of freedom.
And despite all the reports, shoppers are spending more money this Christmas season!
Bush Deity Syndrome= belief that bush can do no wrong, and thus is infallible. Far as I know, I did create this acronymn.
What does that say about YOUR heroes, lefties?
My heroes are Spiderman and Andrew Jackson and now I have Ron Paul.
There is nooo way that Dubya could beat Spiderman, no matter how much coke he’s hopped up on.
AmWay I am yearning for the good old days when interest rates for home mortages were in the 14% range, inflation was over the top, fuel lines – I can still remember the people I met while waiting to get to the pump. Three to four hours allowed you to get to know them very well.
Oh the good ole days under that prize prez Carter and then along came Bill. He made for some interesting DC tours when the bus drivers took us by the Watergate Apartments – nothing about the invasion under Nixion – oh no all they care about now is that is where some dame named Monica Lewinsky lived. And saying things about what every prez left behind – one left a running track, one a bowling alley in the basement and Clinton left a hot tub in the Oval Office.
Amway I think Steven may be on to something here.
No, SD, I simply do not blame the man for the nasty ice on my front porch and every time rain falls on my particular parade, as do so many. I’m quite aware of this administration’s failures, and you’ll not find me making any apologies for same. Bush’s past addiction was, and is, no secret; Bush has acknowledged same.
You, however, have taken a thread about a personal matter (Bush’s struggles with addiction) and his encouragement of another struggling with similar demons, and used it to trot out the usual littany of failures, real or perceived.
Each of the matters (and more) you trot out is a legitimate subject of concern and debate. I may, or may not, agree with your conclusions as to whether the administration is properly responsible, wholly or in part, for each of them.
But that’s not the point here, is it? You’ve simply trotted them out – again – in an unrelated matter. That’s classic BDS.
Talk to Poster Boy and Ben. They seem to have some experience in addictions and dealing with similar mental syndromes; perhaps they can help you.
Clinton left a hot tub in the Oval Office.
ksgrm, ohhh for the good ole days! But I believe Clinton took the hot tub with them when they loaded up the truck and moved to Chappaqua (NY that is- movie stars and swimming pools).
Anybody see this video clip??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GhPDL3VSo4&feature=related
I offer no comment on it.
Between “falling” off his “bicycle,” and “choking” on a “pretzel,” there’s a real question as to whether Bush has really stopped drinking.
But even granting that he isn’t drinking, there’s more to sobriety than not drinking. There’s accountability and the effort to get past one’s own denial. Bush has obvious problems with both of these.
Steve Earle had a revealing take on this refusal of Bush to go beyond “not drinking” into “recovery.”
“”Somebody told me you said you resemble George W Bush in some ways…”
“Absolutely. I was with some people, and they were all asking about Bush. ‘Why is he the way he is? Why does he keep repeating his mistakes?’ I told them: Bush, like me, is a recovering addict. And George W Bush…” Earle stops himself. “I can’t say what I was going to say, because it would be busting his anonymity.”
There is the hint of a pause.
“But **** him. I can’t stand the mother****er. George W Bush went to AA meetings when he was governor of Texas. I know people who… he was seen in meetings all the time he was governor, in Austin.”
“That doesn’t make him a bad person.”
“No. But the reason this is important is that now, as President of the United States, going to Twelve-Step meetings is impossible. There are rules about that and the CIA writes those rules. The guy who established Alcoholics Anonymous took the principles from something called the Oxford Group, which was totally Anglican, then made a system that worked for anybody – even if they were agnostic.”
“So AA meetings tempered Bush’s instincts?”
“From the moment he took office, the Christian rhetoric started to ratchet up. In his life, he replaced the Twelve-Step Programme with fundamentalist Christianity. I really believe that.”
http://www.sobermusicians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3978
I think Earle is right on the money.
Chas -
I’ve seen that clip – unaltered. It’s been slowed down. Just enough to create “slurring,” but not enough to be noticably slowed. I’ve seen it done with other clips, too.
Consider your source – YouTube. If, indeed, Bush was as trashed as that video makes it appear at a public press conference, you really think the media would not have been all over him?
Yeah I’ve seen it Chas.
I know a lot of people that slur their speech when tired or when they first get up in the morning.
Not having done a blood alcohol test on President Bush at the time, I cannot make an assumption that would have any merit, can you Chas?
People prone to mini-strokes also slur their speech. There could be a lot of reasons. I’m sure that if Bush was drunk, the White House Press Staff would have canceled the press conference.
Who knows if it was a night where Bush was awakened in the middle of the night to make a decision. That does happen when you are the President.
Chas can you say ‘this video was doctored. The speed was slowed down’. Good thing you didn’t comment. You would have had some of that yellow stuff on your face again.
CF you are even more gullible that I gave you credit for – and I gave you a lot of credit. Oh well you never cease to amaze me.
“He’s survived seven wives, 50 arrests and a monstrous drugs habit. He’s lambasted the War on Terror and infuriated the political establishment at every turn. Meantime, his music just gets better and better, as his long-awaited new album proves.”
This is the guy you quoted CF?
Here you go Chas,
A list of videos made by Kirkfat, the maker of “Bush Video” you linked to.
=======================Tila Tequila Fan Tribute
Dick Cheney drunk on CNBC
President Bush Drunk Again
Real Ghost Footage
Hilliary Buzzkill Sexy Strip Tease- HOT and NASTY XXX=========================
Not exactly a good source of reliable information in my opinion.
Great -
Steve Earle, clinical psychologist? Trained treatment profession?
No, just musician. And a good one, I like his music. As musician, he speaks from authority.
But I’ll give his opinion on this subject the credibility it deserves – not much. He knows a guy, who knows, a guy who . . . yea.
He has no more expertise or insight in this are than I, or you, CF, do. He’s entitled to his opinion, as are you. Just keep in mind what it’s based on – not much.
“Peter you going to ask that question with shades on?” Too funny.
GMC70,
Steve Earle absolutely has more expertise than you or I in this area: he kicked heroin and has been sober for a decade because of AA/NA. I’d say he has as much right to speak on addiction and recovery as any addiction professional. And I suspect that said addiction and recovery specialists would agree.
It’s worth noting, GMC70, that until AA came along, medical treatment for alcoholism was unsuccessful. Completely, in fact. And to this day, the single greatest contributing factor toward success in any sort of recovery is participation in some version of AA/NA, for precisely the reasons elaborated above:
-Denial-Accountability
Addicts relapse. That’s what they do. And it takes one addict to know another one. Bush’s behavior, which frankly seems baffling on any number of levels, shows up clearly and distinctly in the context of addiction. What have the last seven years been about, if not about the addict’s inability to live in reality, and about how others can enable this?
ksgrm and outlander,
Let’s see, who to trust?
-Someone who has come clean about his addiction, whose life is an open book, who is part of a wider community of recovery?
-Someone who claims a one-time religious experience, is a part of NO community of accountability, and whose behavior suggests that he’s acting in a completely grandiose fashion?
Not any surprise that the Right Wingers on this blog prefer that their addicts continue in their denial. Shame for the rest of us that said addict regards his “accountability moment” as having passed three years ago.
There are only 3 Democrats in all of America that can run for President.
Unfortunately, at least 1 of them has/had a drug problem.
When you have such limited choices, the people of America must get used to the fact that ONE THIRD of the Democratics are current or former drug users.
I agree with CF, at least they admit to it. And maybe Obama will even agree to go through a drug test and release the results to the public, to allay any fears that he hasn’t kicked his addiction to cocaine.
Kicking a drug habit does not equate to expertise.
Being as the choice is an individual one, the persons making the choice has to be the individual.
Making a choice does not make one an expert on anything.
You libs better pick up the pace bad-mouthing the POTUS.
The Clinton to Clinton thread has more posts on it.
CF – Having dealt with drug users, and treatment professionals, daily, in my opinion the lay former addict, especially one who still lives in a world heavily populated by addiction (the music industry) carries no special claim to insight; and in fact, he may well not see the forest for his particular trees. Further, while I do not diminish the contributions of AA/NA (far from it), the idea that the 12-step way is THE only way, and sobriety comes only through their particular program is pure balony.
As I said, CF, he’s entitled to his opinion. I’ll give it the credibility it deserves – not much, in my opinion – especially since opinions on this subject are viewed through the lens of “I can’t stand the mother****er.”
Let’s see -
“. . . since HIS opinions on this subject . . .”
BTW – as are yours.
I just have to laugh at all of the attack posts I get, after posting ONE video, about which I made NO comment. That is almost hilarious!
Chas:
What’s hilarious is that you posted a video that is so obviously altered, apparantly believing it to be evidence of Bush’s drunkenness.
And a quick review produces exactly 4 responses (at 12:15, 12:16, 12:22,and 12:28) to your posting, only one of which could be remotely characterized as an “attack.”
While they have been laying it on you a bit thick recently (much of which you routinely walk into, IMO), I think in this instanced you’re a bit gunshy.
We shall see…
What’s really hilarious is the comments below the video, where the righties didn’t realize the film had been slowed but were drumming up all kinds of excuses, and statements like ’so what the French Pres. has given speeches drunk”.
Try another one — different source!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKc6UMfZW6U&feature=related
That “drink” could easily be something non-alcoholic.
Sure had a big head on that drink.
I am sure that somebody who has some kind of video equipment will shortly show us that the label shows it to be a Non-Alcoholic substance. But, I offer no comment, other than that video was shown on MANY different news programs, here, and over seas!!
What has surprised me the most, is that since Bush was first elected, and his speeches were clear, and coherent, and not full of mis-statements, and all this is normal now, He has gone downhill big time in his ability to make a speech, or speak in public.
I have wondered, honestly, if he is ill?? If he is, I would hope that he is being treated for it. And I dont care if they keep an illness hidden. That is not an issue — just that he gets treated if he is having mini-strokes, or whatever might be wrong..
Chas:
I didn’t think Bush could get worse at public speaking – a “great communicator” he’s not!
Is the pressure of the office taking it’s toll? I’m sure it is, one way or another. And we’re not all on top of our game, all the time.
As to the video 1) seems like I read that what he poured was a non-alcoholic brew, 2) I didn’t see any drinking, just a sipping at the foam, and 3) he’s a guest in a country that takes its beer seriously – perhaps he’s being diplomatic? Don’t know, just wondering . . .
That’s a good question, Chas.
We know now that Bush was treated for the life-threatening Lyme’s disease and the American public was never informed of it.
We have no idea of what else is being withheld from us.
But hey, only 12 months to go and Worst. President. Ever. is history.
Would not be a good thing for an alcoholic to be sipping suds.
GMC, last week somebody sent me a clip of some of Bush’s 2000 campaign speeches — He did a very good job at speaking then… Of course, NOW, he can barely get one sentence to come out right.. Thus, my concern..
After all, we recently had a President who developed Alzheimers while still in office, and we werent notified about it till later.. I would hope that isnt the case now..
And no, I dont remember where the clips from 2000 came from.. Sorry!!
Chas:
Perhaps. Of course, most of those were probably a prepared stump speech, while what he has to do now is more off the cuff/less packaged?
Again, just a thought. I’ve seen no evidence of any current drug or alcohol use, in any case, just a lot of (apparantly groundless) speculation by the BDS crowd.
That “drink” could easily be something non-alcoholic.
Posted by: Chas. | December 13, 2007 at 02:44 PM
You are correct Chas, it’s a Dutch Non-Alcoholic Beer called Buckler.
Here’s a blurry close up of the beer.http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bojack.org/images/bushbuckler2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ethanlindsey.com/blog/%3Fp%3D149&h=400&w=255&sz=16&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=LPmptVfV7Fc_zM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=79&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgerman%2Bnon-alcoholic%2Bbeers%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
And here’s a clear image of Buckler Non-Alcoholic beer.
http://beergeek.stores.yahoo.net/nonalbu12ho.html
Uh huh I knew that would happen… Amazing how none of the news agencies around the world bothered to mention it was non-alcoholic…
But since I drink NA beer myself, it would be a logical thing for Bush to drink..
And yes, NA beer can sometimes mount a very healthy sized Head on it just like regular stuff!
he owes it to Diebold
Consumers are mislead if they’re told Buckler is non-alcoholic beer. It’s not non-alcoholic, it’s low alcoholic (0.1-1.0% alcohol by volume).
There is no such thing as a “zero” alcohol beer. If it’s brewed, it’s alcoholic to one degree or another.
I find it pretty funny that GMC70 would complain that any lacking in “class” displayed in this forum lies solely with those who prefer to think of our preznit as Augustus Stupidus. Take a look at the video. Nice guzzling, Mr. Preznit. It’s not exactly like he’s Mr. Classy there in Germany*, now is it?
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/81/5636
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/5
*–And by the way, wasn’t the beer video shot on the same trip where [a completely sober! lol] GWB was caught on videotape sneaking behind Angela Merkel to give her a friendly neck rub?
LOL. Oh yeah, that’s a classy guy, our preznit.
There is more alcohol by percent in Nyquil than Buckler beer. :)
Chas, if you like NA beer, you should try Kaliber by Guiness. I’m by no stretch of the imagination a teetotaler, but I drink it for the taste when I’m working late. Kind of tastes like burnt sugar.
As for speculation about Bush and dementia…I’ve seen this on the blog before but it’s quite an astounding change:http://youtube.com/watch?v=NvVilAlCBYc
TARA — YES that’s the Bush video I referenced earlier… It is an amazing difference between then, and now as for Bush…
Thanks for the NA tip… I will check that out… maybe get some for Christmas!!
And Merry Christmas to you!!
You are right Pedant — In fact, many people I know who are in 12 Step Recovery will NOT drink NA beer for that very reason…
And — Ummm — They also dont EVER do Nyquil… Since it has at least 10% alcohol!! Some cough medicines have as much as 25%!!
At least Bush wasnt photographed with a bottle of Vicks Formula 44!!
Good night; Good luck; and God bless; whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings All!!
MERRY XRMAS!!
“But that’s not the point here, is it? You’ve simply trotted them out – again – in an unrelated matter. That’s classic BDS.
“Talk to Poster Boy and Ben. They seem to have some experience in addictions and dealing with similar mental syndromes; perhaps they can help you.”
Sorry, GMC, did they teach you that in law school, if one can’t argue the facts, sniff one’s nose and call them irrelevant? Pathetic. Feel sorry for you. Learn to deal with the facts, man, they are not as scary as you seem to think…
Let’s see what do we really know about Bush’s addiction. George W. was born in 1946, he stopped drinking in 1986. GWB was drinking heavily in college at Yale according to Gary Trudeau (the creator of Doonsbury – the comic strip) who was a frat brother of GWB. Trudeau said that GWG’s real skill was in knowing how much beer to purchase for frat parties.
Maybe Bush started drinking before college. That is not known.
People who know more about addiction and recovery than I know, say that during the period of active addiction, one’s development is arrested.
If the above is true, GWB faced adulthood at age 40 without doing much in the way preparation steps.
GWB became abstinent from ETOH when his mom was mad at him for being a drunk jerk and she asked the Rev. Billy Graham to talk with him. From this single conversation, GWB achieved sobriety. Does anyone else believe this crap? If so, I have some wonderful land in Butler County abutting the land of GMC for sale. Any takers?