President and Commander-In-Chief?

If Bush wants to lecture Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, he needs to get his facts straight.

Israel and their lapdog Bush do not want Iran to be able to strike back.

Israel and Bush are sweating Pakistan { afraid that Iran may ask to borrow a “cup of sugar” }.

Posted by: gster | November 06, 2007 at 10:46 AM

They would not bother me, as do not shoot their kids, kill their wives or bulldoze their houses, or cut-off their electricity, or do supersonic flyovers, and the list goes on and on.

The Red Cross has a complete list, if you’re interested.

Meanwhile in America, Republicans consider our own intellectual class to be their enemy.

Makes sense that Bush and Musharraf would be allies.

Have you all ever given any thought to making friends with people rather than pissing them off?

“According to the Community Security Trust, the defense organization of Britain’s 300,000-strong Jewish community, last year saw nearly 600 anti-Semitic assaults, incidents of vandalism, cases of abuse, and threats against Jewish individuals and institutions—double the 2001 number.”

He calls them Jew Killers (aka: The Good Guys).

Right, Ed?

Ed, I wouldn’t want these guys moving in next door, would you? And what do you call them?

I’m with you, Ed! Is “lieing Jew” redundant? I don’t think so. Right, Ed?Damned Christ killers!Right, Ed?

Where did Israel get its Nukes back in 1950?

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg?

The events of today are a reflection of our nations conduct over the last 100 years. Our involvement with puppet governments began following WWI. Heck, with western europe - we ESTABLISHED the middle eastern nations.

It is short sighted to play the blame game. Both parties use that devise.

America needs a foreign policy which supercedes parties and presidents.

Otherwise, no matter WHOM is elected next - we will continue to repeat the mistakes of the past.

It’s just about as absurd as the entire George WMD Bush adminsitration has been since the SCOTUS granted him office in December, 2000.

If there had been anyone else put into the Oval Office through such means, s/he would have understood that this was a highly-divided nation. Not Shrub. He ruled as if 2000 had been a landslide and set out to invade Iraq long before 9/11/2001.

Under the guise of “The War on Terrorism” the Busheviks have shredded not only the Bill of Rights but the Magna fuc#ing Carta!

What’s just happened in Pakistan should prompt all of us to read up on NSPD-51.

I really don’t believe the crazies who think 9/11 was the Busheviks’ Riechstag Fire. But I’m not convinced the next 9/11 won’t be.

Shrub is advocating attacking Iran because a Muslim country might “get the knowledge” of how to create an atom bomb… but he supports a dictator in Islamist Pakistan, a nation that already *has* nukes?!

I’ve disagreed with Republic Party members for most of my adult life, but I used to understand their rationale. So-called “conservatives” no longer make any sense to me. It’s like arguing with house cats: you can make all the sense in the world but they aren’t paying attention.

And then just watch Bush’s prediction come true. And guess who the agressor will be. Who will the world come together against this time?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans are concerned about Iran’s nuclear program but split on whether the United States should take military action to shut it down if diplomatic efforts fail, according to a USA Today/Gallup Poll released on Monday.

ADVERTISEMENTSeventy-three percent of those surveyed said the United States should use economic sanctions and diplomacy to stop Iran’s nuclear program and 18 percent favored military action, the poll found.

However, 46 percent said military action should be taken either now or if diplomacy fails while 45 percent ruled out a military strike altogether, USA Today said.

Republicans were twice as likely as Democrats to endorse taking military steps, the poll said.

President George W. Bush has suggested a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to World War Three. Bush last week imposed sanctions on Iran’s military and its financial sector, hoping to increase pressure on Tehran to stop uranium enrichment and curb what the U.S. government says are terrorist activities.

Iran has so far refused to heed United Nations demands to halt nuclear work that has both civilian and military uses.

Three of four Americans polled said they were concerned the United States “will not do enough to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons,” USA Today said.

An equal number also said they were concerned that the United States will be too quick to use military force against Iran.

The telephone survey of 1,024 adults was taken Friday through Sunday. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Looks like John Q. Public will never learn.

I too long for the America I was taught about. I grew up watching and learning lies. The Alamo, the purity of the founding fathers, Manifest destiny, so much more of it, ALL of it lies.

And Pakistan? Just another in a long line of nations manipulated by US foreign policy not for their or our greater good. But merely to keep the rich getting richer and the power brokers in place.

Yeah, it’s a great country.

But the government still sucks.

I think we should try to improve it, don’t you?

What’s wrong with you guys? What America do you live in? Mine’s great!

I live in a country that pretty much lets yo be what ever you want to be. If you don’t think this is a great country try the wall test. Put a wall around this country and see which way the people climb it.

Obama? If Obama is the answer it’s a very dumb question! Hillary has 50% negatives. Her record is one of looking out for Hillary. The democrat presidential hopefuls might not have the stones to challenge her record, but she won’t get a continuation of her cakewalk if she wins the nomination.

here is the link about spying for Israel.

Ben from what I have learned of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, that is exactly where the real hard core of both come from. Lawyers, Doctors, Engineers and others of wealth and influence are the ones whom almost since the formation of the Islamic extreme movement. Have been the most formative and steadfast in their believes. Perhaps that has been one of the greatest misperceptions about Islamic extremism that it is the uneducated and down pressed are the membership. Most of the 9-11 terrorists were from the professional class. The terrorists who struck in Scotland were Doctors.
*****I was feeling a bit depressed the other day, so I called the Help Hotline.

I was put through to a ‘call center’ in Pakistan.

I explained that I was feeling suicidal.

They were very excited at this news and wanted to know
if I could drive a truck or fly an airplane…..
Posted by: American WayOMG you got a real belly laugh out of me! Thanks…*****Recently I read that a lesser member of the Bush Administration has been indicted for spying for Israel by passing U,S. Defense information through APAC.

That America doesn’t exist, and probably never did. Norman Rockwell lied.Our diplomacy has always been about who we could make the most advantageous short-term deal with, not about who was the most honorable. It’s just taken a while for that policy to exact it’s heavy price. Maybe the powers that be will learn a lesson from that, but I wouldn’t count on it.

WORSE PRESIDENT EVER?

Thousands arrested in Pakistan protests By ROBIN McDOWELL, Associated Press Writer
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Police on Monday fired tear gas and clubbed lawyers protesting against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf’s emergency rule. The U.S. and other nations called for elections to be held on schedule and said they were reviewing aid to Pakistan.

In the largest protest in the eastern city of Lahore, lawyers dressed in black suits and ties chanted “Musharraf Go!” as they defied the government’s ban on rallies. Some fought back with stones and tree branches.

The crackdown mainly targeted Musharraf’s most potent critics — the judiciary and lawyers, independent television stations and opposition activists. Opposition groups said 3,500 had been arrested, though the government reported half that total.

President Bush urged Musharraf to hold parliamentary elections as scheduled in January and relinquish his army post as soon as possible. “Our hope is that he will restore democracy as quickly as possible,” Bush said.

But there did not appear to be a unified position among senior government officials on whether they planned to hold the election as planned. The attorney general said the vote would take place as scheduled but then conceded there was a chance of a delay. The prime minister also left open the possibility of a delay.

The demonstrations so far have been limited largely to opposition activists, rights workers and lawyers angered by his attacks on the judiciary. There does not appear to be a groundswell of popular resistance and all the protests have been quickly and sometimes brutally stamped out.

The streets of Pakistan appeared normal Monday with people going about business as usual for the most part.

Musharraf, who took power in a 1999 coup and is also head of Pakistan’s army, suspended the constitution on Saturday ahead of a Supreme Court ruling on whether his recent re-election as president was legal. He ousted seven independent-minded Supreme Court judges, put a stranglehold on independent media and granted sweeping powers to authorities to crush dissent.

Musharraf’s leadership is threatened by the Islamic militant movement that has spread from border regions to the capital, the reemergence of political rivals, including former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, and an increasingly defiant Supreme Court.

The court has emerged as the chief check on Musharraf, who has been promising democracy ever since he seized power. The judiciary has proved surprisingly independent for a country that has been under military rule for most of the 60 years since it was founded.

The emergency decree appeared aimed primarily at heading off any Supreme Court challenge to Musharraf prolonging his eight-year rule.

The opposition has been demanding Musharraf relinquish his post as army chief and says he should be disqualified because he contested the presidential vote as army chief.

Musharraf has also moved quickly to control the media, which he said was partly to blame for the current crisis. Authorities have blacked out TV networks and threatened broadcasters with jail time, but so far have spared the Internet and most newspapers. Most people in Pakistan, where illiteracy is rife, get their news from TV or radio.

Police raided and briefly sealed a printing press belonging to Pakistan’s largest media group on Monday. They also tried to storm a press club in Karachi. Broadcasts by independent news networks remained blocked, and domestic transmissions of BBC and CNN went off the air.

Lawyers — who were the driving force behind protests earlier this year when Musharraf tried unsuccessfully to fire independent-minded chief justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry — attempted to stage rallies in major cities on Monday, but the protests were quickly stamped out.

In the biggest protest, about 2,000 lawyers congregated at the High Court in the eastern city of Lahore. As lawyers tried to exit onto a main road, hundreds of police stormed inside, swinging batons and firing tear gas. Lawyers, shouting “Go Musharraf Go!” responded by throwing stones and beating police with tree branches.

An Associated Press reporter saw police bundle about 250 lawyers into waiting vans. About 20 were injured, at least two bleeding from the head and were treated in a waiting ambulance before being spirited away.

In the capital, Islamabad, hundreds of police and paramilitary troops lined roads and rolled out barbed-wire barricades on Monday to seal off the Supreme Court.

Rana Bhagwandas, a Supreme Court judge who refused to take oath under Musharraf’s proclamation of emergency orders, said he has been locked inside his official residence in Islamabad and that other judges were being pressured to support the government.

“They are still working on some judges, they are under pressure,” Bhagwandas told Geo TV in a phone interview.

Chief justice Chaudhry was removed from his post on Saturday, just as the Supreme Court was preparing to rule on the validity of Musharraf’s Oct. 6 re-election.

“I am virtually arrested,” Chaudhry said in a written statement, describing the emergency declaration as a “naked attack” on the rule of law.” “The main gate of my residence has been locked.”

Even lawyers who were not involved in protests appeared to be targeted.

Imran Qadi Khan said police pulled him off a bus near Musharraf’s army office in Rawalpindi, just south of the capital, as he was heading to work.

“We have been sitting here since morning,” he said from prison, sitting alongside other lawyers who stood out because of their traditional attorney dress, black jackets and black ties. “The police are not telling us anything about what they plan to do with us.”

Since late Saturday, between 1,500 and 1,800 people have been detained nationwide, an Interior Ministry official said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

But Ahsan Iqbal, a spokesman for former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s opposition party, said authorities had rounded up around 2,300 of their supporters. Other political activists, human rights groups, and lawyers said another 1,200 detentions to that toll.

They included at least 173 workers and supporters of Bhutto, who has held talks in recent months with Musharraf over a possible alliance to fight extremism, said Pakistan People’s Party spokesman Farhatullah Babar.

The Netherlands became the first country to punish Pakistan, announcing a freeze on almost all of its millions of dollars in development aid.

Rice said Washington was reviewing its assistance to Pakistan, which has received billions of dollars in aid since Musharraf threw his support behind the U.S.-led war on terror after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

But Defense Secretary Robert Gates suggested that military aid may not be affected because the Bush administration does not want to disrupt its partnership with Pakistan in fighting al-Qaida and other militants.

The country has been hit by a string of suicide bombings in recent weeks blamed on extremists, including one last month that killed 145.

Britain said it had no current plans to change the $493 million it has budgeted in aid to Pakistan over three years.

Musharraf told ambassadors at his official residence Monday that he was committed to completing Pakistan’s transition to democracy.

“I am determined to remove my uniform once we correct these pillars — the judiciary, the executive and the parliament,” he was quoted by state-run Pakistan Television as telling foreign ambassadors Monday.

“I can assure you there will be harmony … confidence will come back into the government, into law enforcement agencies and Pakistan will start moving again on the same track as we were moving.”

Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz left open the possibility for a delay in parliamentary elections that had been expected in January.

“The next general elections will be held according to the schedule or a program that will be finalized after consultation with all the stakeholders,” he said. On Sunday, Aziz said the polls could be delayed by up to a year.

Attorney General Malik Mohammed Qayyum gave contradicting statements on whether the elections would be held on schedule.

“Yes the elections will go ahead on time,” he told the Associated Press. But then he conceded there was a small chance of a delay because some in the government wanted to put the vote off by a year.