Former Bush administration “architect†Karl Rove, debuting as a Newsweek columnist, conjures up a way for the GOP to beat Hillary Clinton, whom he describes as “hard and brittle,†calculating and speaking “icily.†(When was the last time you saw a man so described?) Rove’s prescriptions range from being authentic to being bold on Iraq to courting minority votes. His concluding advice to the GOP nominee: “By explaining to voters why he deserves to be our next president, he will also make clear why that job should not go to another person named Clinton.â€
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Name one candidate for president in my lifetime who was considered the front-runner for the nomination one year out who stayed that way…and became president.Anybody remember President Lodge? President Muskie? President Tsongas? President George Romney?To assume now that it’s going to be Hillary vs. Rudy is the height of folly.
You might want to toss in President John F. Kennedy?? LOL
And Richard Nixon, the 2nd term campaign…
Anybody is beatable. But if I were Rove, I would not place my bets on the Republicans next year!
The only person who can beat Shrillary is Ron Paul. Rupert Murdoch (owner of Fox News) is a major contributor and fund raiser for Clinton. These buddies of yours, the new conservatives want Hillary. Here’s just one article. And nevermind Roger Ales (discoverer and close friend and boss of ol Rush Limbaugh).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/07/16/hillary-clinton-shuns-fox_n_56495.html
Shit ain’t what it seems like. Wake up, vote Ron Paul.
Rove left the White House because he is no longer on top of his game. Mental fatique is a common occurence for White House staffers and it is not unique to Dems or Repubs.
Rove’s mental fatigue must be clouding his decisionmaking, because his statements that a presidential candidate cannot be hard and brittle is laughable. The current person camped out in the Oval Office is just such a person.
George Bush is so detached from reality that clinical psychologists are having a heyday assessing his emotional state of mind. There are several great articles recently issued by psychologists (not reporters) which question the smirk, and the detachment Bush exhibits even while discussing significant national achievements – not to mention the quagmires.
Rove – honey – wake-up. Write something that makes sense will you…?
Rove should spend his time looking for a hole to crawl into after Bush leaves office.
Yeah! Ug!
I’m voting for Hillary cause I hate Bush.
I’ve yet to hear any other reasons why I should vote for Hillary, other then that.
Oh, and the Union says I should.
I don’t know where Hillary stands on the issues. Hard to tell if there are actually any words spoken between her screetches, so I haven’t heard her actually say anything.
You had me at, “I am voting for Hillary cause I hate Bush”.
I know Lonnie.
Can’t let Bush win again.
Hey George, who should I vote for?
Huh?
Who should I vote for?
Tell me George, cause I’m too stupid to figure it out myself.
Vote for Hillary, Lennie. She’s the Democrat.
Now shut-up and hurry up or they will run out of food at the bread line.
Dummocrat, I do so enjoy reading your wit and wisdom. Do persist in the profound punditry.
If I knew she would be just like Bill, I’d vote for her, and I’m a life long Republican. Bill was the most “Republican” president we have had since Reagon.
I, like everyone else, will wait to see which candidates are actually on the ballot. Right now the Republicans who have announced their candidacy can’t hold a candle to those who have announced from the Democratic Party.
Then there’s the fact that even tho’ gwbush isn’t running he is the VERY BEST ambassador the Democratic Party could ever have! Rove knows bush hasn’t just set America on a path to ruin; he has taken his party down too.
SECRET REVEALED:
A female friend of mine, who unfortunately is a Democrat, revealed the secret as to why she is voting for Hillary.
She actually thinks Bill will be the co-President, and this is the only way to get Bill back as President.
She doesn’t actually like Hillary, at all. But, she thinks Bill will be pulling the strings.
(Funny, we all thought Hillary was pulling the strings when Bill was President)
So I asked my friend, “What if Bill dies? You know, he’s had heart bypass surgery already.”
Silence. She hadn’t thought of that!
I’ve made no secret of the fact that Hillary Clinton isn’t my choice for the Democratic nomination. Each time I’ve said that I’ve added that the best part of a Hillary Clinton presidency would be that we would get Bill back!
I guess Max was the only one who thought this was a secret!
There may be a challenge of constitutionality if the Clintons regain the Presidency.
I wouldn’t mind Bill Clinton giving advice, but there may be something unconstitutional about him being part of the decision making process.
It would be hard to prove he did or didn’t and there lies the danger.
Unconstitutional in the fact, that no one would have elected Bill Clinton to make decisions regarding national issues.
There’s a lot of sticky wickets with that issue.
It was news to me Lindalinks.
You are just the 2nd person I’ve heard admit to voting for Hillary because of Bill, while at the same time admitting they don’t really like Hillary.
I can’t imagine voting for a candidate because of who their spouse is. This just isn’t logical.
Even the VP candidate has very little impact on the overall vote, why should a spouse have more of an impact then the VP?
Hillary must not be able to stand on her own two feet.
The Repukes have already started their mud-slinging with GOP operativeRobert Novak’s bogus story this week. However, I predict that the Repuke mud-slinging will only harden Democrats’ resolve to defeat them.
Bill is considered by Ma Bush to be a son. There is no difference. “I hate Bush, I’m voting for Clinton”
What??
Definition of insanity:
Repeating the same thing over and over again, expecting new results.
Actually Ben, Obama’s video crew was the first to mud sling. Remember that video of Clinton (the old Apple commercial 1984) that was released without approval (cough.)
“You are just the 2nd person I’ve heard admit to voting for Hillary because of Bill, while at the same time admitting they don’t really like Hillary.”———-
Max, Since I didn’t say either of the statements you attribute to me, you’ll need to go back to having only heard those from one person!
What I did say I’ve posted right here several times. And Glyn, try as you might to be the good word twister, you aren’t so good at it!
I smell FEAR among the Repukes at the thought of PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON.
Interesting how the CONS have no candidate they’re for and so carp on the one candidate they fear and hate.
I smell FEAR among the Repukes at the thought of PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON.
Posted by: Ben | November 21, 2007 at 09:04 AM
Interesting how the CONS have no candidate they’re for and so carp on the one candidate they fear and hate.
Posted by: MonkeyHawk | November 21, 2007 at 09:04 AM
Politics is a lot like poker. You don’t slap the table and yell “yahoo” the moment you think you have a good hand. You study the other players and make decisions as the game progresses.
Hillary is a wolf in sheeples clothing. I could care less if a woman was President or not, just not her. So, you’re damned right I’m scared. I’m not Dem or Rep as both are cola you just get to choose if you want Pepsi or Coke. Me, I like Dr. Pepper. When all of you are earning 70k a year and are still needing food stamps because your fiat dollar has tanked and is worth zilch, you can have my USDA, welfare canned “beef” and take the cheese too. All because you still hold on to the notion that there is any separation between the two parties. whatever.
Rove’s most salient advice for the repub. candidates is to distance themselves from bush. Has Rhonda not read that?
If people had balls they would vote for a third party instead of choosing the lesser of two evils approach that the voters will no doubt be stuck will as the good candidates aren’t going to be nominated. And what are the policy difference between Rudy and Hillary.
I wonder how long it will take Newsweek to realize installing ubber political hack Rove as a columnist severely damages their reputation? I am betting he lasts no more than three months.
“I wonder how long it will take Newsweek to realize installing ubber political hack Rove as a columnist severely damages their reputation?”______
Their reputation?
Oh! You mean their reputation as a left-of-center rag. Well, yes, I’m sure that reputation may be damaged a bit if they use Rove. It may slightly improve their credibility, though.
I wouldn’t care to read rove, could care less about his opinion. Now if he were to write an honest tell all (confession), I would buy that.
Hilary is a wolf in sheep’s clothing?!? If you were saying that about a man it would be a compliment. I am so sick of people saying she’s too aggressive, or she’s too this or that, when if she just had a damn penis, everything people are saying about her would be positive attributes.
Only a complete idiot like “David” could think that a publication (Newsweek) that features columnists like George F. Will is “left-wing.”
What a maroon.
Whoa, I can’t stand Shrillary or his wife. She’s not aggressive, she a bitch. I want to use the “c” word but that’s pretty offensive. All I’m saying is that she’s not the savior the dems are looking for. She’s just another Bush.
JM/Capn,
For the self-infatery you like to engage in, you really don’t seem to be able to muster much substance. Perhaps you need to install CO monitors now that we’re running heat. Breathing carbon monoxide can cost IQ points, you know.
(How long have you been breathing it already?)
Rove at Newswek makes perfect sense – as would Stephanopolous. We know who they are – they simply provide variety. The New York Times and Washington Post do the same. The mistake people make is in assuming that THEIR views represent the publications. The publications quite correctly are providing a forum for ‘point-counterpoint’
David writes, “infatery”
He speaks his own language now.
Call the inter-stellar alien craft. He’s putting on the plastic bag and the white tennis shoes and awaiting beam-up . . .
Capn – such ad hominum attacks are David’s stock in trade. Then he will whine and accuse others of ad hominum attacks against him.
Gee david, it sure must be tough being so perfact.
Ahh, forgive the type-o. It should have been self-INFLATERY.
I thought it would have been ’self-infatuation’ or something like that.
Gaseous windbag has always been one of my favorites phrases David.
Crude and rude perhaps, but a high degree of precision. :D
Hey David you’re running late!
They still need to get your wires secured and get you down to Macy’s in New York. You’re gonna be late for the parade! Your slotted between Snoopy and Spongebob. Get hoppin’!
Rove writes? Probably he grunts and throws crap at the wall for an interpreter to transcribe.
JR,
You and the Capn running your little tag team today?
What the HELL does a political party have to do with brains and common sense!If you are going to vote try voting for real leadership for all the people of this nation, not by political party.This nation cannot afford anymore screw ups!
I would be more interested in what Scott McClellan has to say about the Bush/Cheney White House than Karl Rove.
Rove is a has-been political hack now and really doesn’t hold as much power as he once had before the last elections when the Republicans lost BIG.
I am not a fan of Hillary myself and I am not all that sure she will end up being the Democratic candidate. There are too many people in the race and we still have not seen what cockroaches plan to crawl out of their hiding holes in the woodwork – on both sides of the political fence.
David, when the Libs on this blog call a left-wing rag like Newsweek conservative, that tells you just how far radical left these posters truly are!
One person’s left wing is another person’s right wing – much like one man’s treasure is another man’s trash.
Chas:Stuart Symington and Hubert Humphrey were considered ahead of JFK until he won the West Virginia primary.
“David, when the Libs on this blog call a left-wing rag like Newsweek conservative, that tells you just how far radical left these posters truly are!”
Max, I greatly suspect that left-wing in your world is somewhere between 70 to 80 percent of the country. Therefore, your reliability in determining a publication to be a left-wing rag is suspect.
Speaking of which, I saw a little mini-truck with a huge American flag trailing along behind it and a “defeat HILLARY” bumper sticker on the back. I said to my wife and step daughter in the car with me, “Look, it’s the new baseball team mascot!”
When I read the comment I made immediately above, I actually regret it. While a bumper sticker centered on defeating or beating Hillary (I am unsure of which exactly) does reflect an odd, and even kind of scary, myopia, posting my joke here wasn’t nice.
I therefore apologize for my 8:25 post.
“ksagnostic” –
Since the new Wichita team will be called the “Wingnuts,” your joke is appropriate.
We certainly see our share of Right-Wingnuttery in this forum.
But we in the reality-based community should not castigate them, we should no criticize them, we should try to develop a calm, rational, dialog with the CONS… and operate on their brains.
It would, no doubt, be minor surgery.
WAKEUP
AMERICAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DqY8iIxe2cqY8iIxe2c
This one might work betterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DqY8iIxe2c
might have to cut and paste
Hey bjb,I hadn’t seen that one yet. Excellent.
Duane,
I am gahering the best at my blog under the cat. Ron Paul Rocks.Good to meet a compatriot, (with the emphasis on patriot.)
Sometimes I think changing presidents is aboout the same as changing Madams in whore house. I firmly think that it is congress where the power lies
The press media and liberal reporters have already decided who will be for the democrats and who will be president.
Why listen to a has-been republican?
It’s already been decided by the higher powers.
We just have to adjust the koolaide periodically and frequently to keep the sheep thoroughly confused.
We just have to adjust the koolaide periodically and frequently to keep the sheep thoroughly confused.
Posted by: Who cares?
what the hell is wrong with you people?the kool-aide?liberal reporters?
you are the reason this country is so freaking screwed.
oh, poor old rove.
old rove the guy who started the call voters in the deep south and casually ask them if they would vote for mccain if they knew he fathered a black child?
poor old rove retired andoh yeah he’s running, as usual, the slashy and burn of anyone he doesn’t like or want to be elected.
Cynicism is the problem.Fresh perspective is the cure.Ron Paul is that fresh perspective.
Click here for John Daily’s take:http://www.indecision2008.com/blog.jhtml?c=vc&videoId=87974
“bjb” –
I think you probably know that Ron Paul’s candidacy is a lost cause.
As much as the Republic Party proclaims to be the voice of “conservsatives,” way too many Americans have seen how they operate.
Ron Paul, for all his redeemable qualities, is the genuine conservative in the race. And he gets what? 5% of the Republic Party support? Does that tell you something?
Perhaps it’s because even 95% of Republic Party faithful understand Paulist conservatism constitutes failed policy. Perhaps it’s proof that the Republic Party’s claim on “conservatism” is and always has been a scam.
The most articulate Republic Party candidate, the one who might truly express the spirit and morality and right-ness of the conservative movement has, for the last decade, been Alan Keyes. Hmmm, I wonder what about him doesn’t not attract a majority of Republic Party voters?
I’ve repeatedly asked the so-called “conservative” posters to this forum — people such as “Max,” and “Nathan,” and “Hank Price,” and “Econ101,” and “Kansas” — just exactly who they *support* in the Republic Party primary. They’ve constantly refused to answer, prefering to attack Senator Clinton or Barak Obama or John Edwards with spurious accusations — like “Breck Girl” is a legitimate politcal issue — and they have steadfastly refused to present anything from any Republic Party candidate that represents what they are actually *for.*
I respect you, “bjb,” for being an advocate for Ron Paul’s candidacy. I disagree with Paul on a lot of, if not most, issues. But I respect his intellectual honesty. Too bad the Republic Party isn’t friendly to intellectual honesty anymore.
Honk if you’ve married Rudy Giuliani.
Monkeyhawk,
Thanks, I have admired the cogent clarity (albeit left-skewed) inherent in your posts in this realm and count your commendation as one of my greatest achievements in cyberspace.
May the Risen One grace you with His blessings this Thanksgiving, regardless of your thoughts on Him.
Bjb
Ps I share your concern about the soul of the conservative movement. The best of the status quo that it sought to conserve in Goldwater’s day has been transformed into an empire building, golden calf worshipping and quite “moderate” status quo. Dr. No has the cure, but few are buying the balm. I guess it just tastes too bad to throw down. So too many prefer conservatism-life, with none of the pain and no curative agents at all.
A round of Rudy with a Huckabee chaser on the house! Let us eat, drink and be happy, for tomorrow ….. Hey! Forget about tomorrow!!